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Elon Musk's Finances Risk Tesla's Stock

2022-10-24

GLJ.... really

Tesla: Accounting And Valuation Concerns

2022-05-08

Oh no

Tesla: Overvalued By 85.26% And Not A Technology Company

2022-04-27

$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$Whenever the stock nose dives, I can't help but be angry with Elon Musk for doing non-Tesla related things that gives main stream media ammunition to speculate and drive down prices. Think Bitcoin, Twitter.However to me, he is a genius and visionary. I rationalise that if you are a follower, you have accept that he would be controversial and the stock would be volatile.

2021-09-20

BYD and VW group

If there were a ‘Big Three’ of electric vehicle makers, who would join Tesla?

2021-08-06

$STRAITS TRADING CO. LTD(S20.SI)$Target priceis $3.9. This is per DBS analyst report published onMarch 2021. Go go go!

2021-07-22

Strong

@股票小霸王888:Game for week of 12 Jul21:$ABUNDANCE INTERNATIONAL LTD(541.SI)$$GOLDEN ENERGY AND RESOURCESLTD(AUE.SI)$Standby your bullets. These 2 stirring within 2 months????????

2021-07-21

Tesla’s share price increase was post day closing. Due to announcement of Tesla sharing their super charger access to other EV. Poor poor article again.

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2021-07-03

The catalyst seems to be FSD. Hopefully soon.

Tesla Reported Record Deliveries. Why That's Not Good Enough.

2021-06-30

Should post the tipranks of the analysts and see their past performances.

Tesla Stall Shows Wall Street Rift on Stratospheric Stock Value

2021-06-25

Can monitor to short.

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2021-06-25

Poor poor article. Picking and choosing data point to validate a specific view. A more balanced articlewould be to examine the strength and weakness of the company vs the valuation they are now commanding.

Why Tesla stock is getting left in Ford's and GM's dust

2021-06-23

Must be joking. Nio had limited proprietary technology and is replying on branding to win customers.Marketing is another cost element which will eat into margin.Within China, it is facing competition from Xpeng, BYD.Very very very tough to win.

Why I Believe NIO Will Beat Out Tesla

2021-06-23

Caveat emptor. Fashion trends come and go, withiut any announcement. Have to decide if you want to lead or follow the trend.

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2021-06-22

So much noise. Stay calm and invest in companies with strong fundamentals.

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2021-06-22

Unity!

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2021-06-19

Enough

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2021-06-19

Enough of meme stocks

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2021-03-23

Jia you!

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2021-03-05

I hope you are right!

Tesla Stock skids more than 4%

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The state of Tesla’s fortunes, as well as its impact on Musk’s wealth and the future of the company, has sparked vigorous debate within the financial market.While there remains a strong fan base for Musk and Tesla, it’s becoming increasingly tempting to entertain the “bear” case against Tesla. Over the past month, Tesla’s stock has experienced a 17% decline, a stark contrast to the S&P’s 2.4% dip.The situation worsened when Musk publicly acknowledged significant challenges in Tesla’s business model, causing a further drop in the company’s stock value.One key issue is the lackluster performance of Tesla’s new “Cybertruck.” Despite maintaining profitability (which wasn’t always the case), Tesla missed its earnings and revenue targets. Additionally, some analysts report diminishing profit margins.Expansion plansTesla has expansion plans, including a new factory in Mexico. However, these endeavors are unfolding in an environment of rising interest rates, which could lead to reduced demand for its products, given that, for many consumers, a car purchase is influenced by monthly payments. As interest rates climb, the proportion of these payments allocated to interest naturally increases, as Musk has pointed out.This situation bears a resemblance to Tesla’s precarious financial position in 2018 when the company was on the verge of bankruptcy, leading to a decline in its stock price and an onslaught of short-sellers. While Tesla’s revenues appear robust, supporters of the company’s bullish narrative must also suspend disbelief.Electric vehicles (EVs) are expensive and, in many cases, inefficient. Tesla has expressed its readiness to reduce prices to make EVs more affordable for the middle class. Furthermore, some analysts are beginning to question the sustainability of EVs in an Environmental Social Governance (ESG) context.Tesla’s market success has been tied not only to its sales but also to the ESG investment trend, where companies are evaluated based on non-financial metrics, such as sustainability. Critics argue that the mining of battery chemicals poses environmental risks, while the source of electricity for EV charging remains primarily reliant on traditional, non-renewable energy sources.High inflationThe ESG movement is under scrutiny, with some attributing it to higher inflation and questionable fund returns. As ESG’s popularity wanes, Tesla’s stock could face downward pressure.Furthermore, Tesla’s fundamentals have come under scrutiny. Critics like Gordon Johnson, CEO of GLJ Research, argue that Tesla’s financial metrics appear increasingly questionable, even before recent controversies. Sales growth has been on a declining trajectory, with Tesla producing fewer cars in the third quarter of 2023 compared to the second quarter.Although Tesla’s market capitalization is higher than the combined value of the seven largest automakers, the company’s share of the overall car market remains modest, selling just 3.9% of the total cars sold by these automakers over the past year.While it’s premature to suggest that Tesla is heading for insolvency, there are growing concerns that the company’s valuation is out of sync with its financial realities. 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(NASDAQ:TSLA) and selling Lucid Group, Inc. (LCID) stock short (in equal dollar amounts). My pitch was simple enough. Both companies look overvalued in terms of absolute multiples. Still, due to more efficient operational growth, Tesla should have experienced a much less noticeable multiple contraction than Lucid while receiving much more support from retail investors.</p><p>A few months have passed since then. The S&amp;P 500 (SPX) fell even lower, dragging the rest of the market with it, including the companies mentioned above. But my thesis was justified - the difference in the magnitude of the declines in TSLA and LCID would bring a potential investor +22.9% (gross, before deducting brokerage commissions for shorting LCID):</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/876778b7ede509db5346250fe56fec97\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"615\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Seeking Alpha, Ycharts, author&#39;s notes</p><p>At the time, I recommended holding this deal until the end of the year. However, in my article today, I want to look at the recent banks&#39; equity research reports on Tesla&#39;s financial results. Let us take a look at them and try to assess how logical their forecasts and conclusions are and whether they should be trusted.</p><p>Bank of America - 3Q results look pretty good to us – first take [October 19]</p><p>Analysts John Murphy, CFA, John P. Babcock, and Federico Merendi reiterated a Neutral rating on Tesla with a price objective (PO) of $325 per share - that&#39;s 3.17% higher than their previous PO of $315.</p><p>Moreover, BofA said much the same thing as I did when I put forward my thesis in June - TSLA&#39;s self-funding status is a notable advantage over some startup competitors in the electric car space, but because its valuation is the result of optimistic projections for a long future (recall the 50% growth target), it will be quite difficult for the quotes to grow strongly in the near future.</p><p>However, why did the bank raise its TSLA price target anyway? The issue is how the actual results differed from what analysts had expected from the company:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ed4dc14a81b28e60a2032d559c526278\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"335\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>BofA, TSLA report, October 19</p><p>I can understand why the analysts were wrong in forecasting gross profit - the variance seems negligible. But to be wrong on operating expenses (OPEX) by 15% and on taxes by 38.8%? If Tesla really is not just faking its books - we will get into that later - but is working as we see in the statements, then the company&#39;s operating efficiency makes one sit up and take notice because even top analysts could not imagine how Elon Musk could save so much on OPEX this quarter.</p><p>BofA values the company using EV/Sales and EV/EBITDA multiples, but $325/share is too optimistic a target in my opinion. Let us look at their logic. BofA analysts expect EV/EBITDA to be 41x in 2022, down 37.1% from 2021. At the same time, EBITDA growth will be 59.2% in 2022. This is such a sharp decline in the multiple against the backdrop of such a high growth rate in the underlying financial metric. In 2023, however, EBITDA is expected to grow by only 7% - many times less than in the previous year. However, the analysts&#39; forecast includes a much less modest contraction of 6.6% in 2023, which is not in line with the trend of recent years:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/146388aab7013b33a9f50032c16ec0f7\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"567\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>BofA, TSLA report, with author&#39;s calculations and notes</p><p>In my view, the EV/EBITDA multiple in 2023 should be at least 30x, if not lower, if the multiple contraction continues - and it should, given lower growth forecasts and a generally higher interest rate environment - implying a 27% reduction in the multiple from 2022 to 2023. At EBITDA of $19.916 billion in 2023 (BofA&#39;s estimate), enterprise value should be about $600 billion - that&#39;s 5.5% below the current one.</p><p>Morgan Stanley - 3Q Margins Beat, But FY23 Outlook Still at Risk [October 19]</p><p>AnalystsAdam Jonas, CFA, Evan Silverberg, CFA, CPA, et al. released an update of their Overweight rating, having $350 per share as a new price objective - below its pre-split target of $1300(about $433 per share).</p><p>Morgan Stanley, like BofA, was wrong about growth in OPEX, interest expense, and stock-based compensation. The company&#39;s lower-than-expected CAPEX coupled with stronger EPS growth resulted in a 153.6% undervaluation of FCF:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d31a9c6b04a11e6fa0bfb86d24468c71\" tg-width=\"492\" tg-height=\"730\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>MS, TSLA report, October 19</p><p>The key takeaways from their analysis of TSLA&#39;s report:</p><ul><li>expected cost inflation related to logistics/shipping as well as adverse timing differences related to supplier payments given significant input cost inflation on the battery and non-battery side. That didn&#39;t happen;</li><li>If one were to inflation adjust the YoY moves in CAPEX and OPEX, Tesla&#39;s clearly doing more with less;</li><li>Supercharging revenue will most likely get above 10% of Tesla&#39;s total revenue within the next 12 to 18 months;</li><li>Production is ramping up at the 40-GWh Megapack factory in California - a solid win for the company, demonstrating its strength and focus on the battery front.</li></ul><p><b>Okay, but why did analysts lower their TSLA price target?</b></p><p>Here you have to look at the input data for their SOTP 6-component model:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/182723ae2d8888a7435a237b5408867c\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"181\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>MS, TSLA report, October 19</p><blockquote>Our PT of $433 is comprised of 6 components:<b>(1)</b>$203/share for core Tesla Auto business on 8.6mm units in 2030, 8.5% WACC, 15x 2030 exit EBITDA multiple, exit EBITDA margin of 20%.<b>(2)</b>Tesla Mobility at $25 on DCF with ~500k cars at $1.7/mile by 2030.<b>(3)</b>Tesla as a 3rd party supplier at $44/share.<b>4)</b>Energy at $37/share,<b>5)</b>Insurance at $12/share, &amp;<b>6)</b>Network Services at $113, 25mm MAUs, $100 ARPU by 2030, 20% discount.</blockquote><blockquote>Source: Investing.com, author&#39;s adjustment for the split (3:1)</blockquote><table><tbody><tr><td><b>Segment / Date</b></td><td><p><b>Jun 16, 2022(rounded)</b></p></td><td><b>Now</b></td><td><b>Change</b></td></tr><tr><td>Core Tesla Auto business</td><td>$203</td><td>$287</td></tr><tr><td>Tesla Mobility</td><td>$25</td><td>$22</td><td>1.4%</td></tr><tr><td>3rd party supplier</td><td>$44</td><td>$27</td><td>-38.2%</td></tr><tr><td>Energy</td><td>$37</td><td>$31</td><td>-16.2%</td></tr><tr><td>Insurance</td><td>$12</td><td>$8</td><td>-35.1%</td></tr><tr><td>Network Services</td><td>$113</td><td>$75</td><td>-33.4%</td></tr><tr><td><b>Sum Of The Parts</b></td><td><b>$433</b></td><td><b>$450</b></td><td><b>4.6%</b></td></tr></tbody></table><p>Source: Author&#39;s compilation</p><p>If you add up all the parts of the analysts&#39; outputs, it shows that their SOTP model does indeed show a price target of $453 per share - I suspect that the Morgan Stanley analysts mistyped their report and wrote $287 instead of $187 because the difference is exactly $100 while the WACC is higher and the sales volume is lower than before. Here&#39;s how the above table should most likely look like:</p><table><tbody><tr><td><b>Segment / Date</b></td><td><b>Jun 16, 2022 (rounded)</b></td><td><b>Now</b></td><td><b>Change</b></td></tr><tr><td>Core Tesla Auto business</td><td>$203</td><td>$187</td><td>-7.7%</td></tr><tr><td>Tesla Mobility</td><td>$25</td><td>$22</td><td>1.4%</td></tr><tr><td>3rd party supplier</td><td>$45</td><td>$27</td><td>-38.2%</td></tr><tr><td>Energy</td><td>$37</td><td>$31</td><td>-16.2%</td></tr><tr><td>Insurance</td><td>$12</td><td>$8</td><td>-35.1%</td></tr><tr><td>Network Services</td><td>$113</td><td>$75</td><td>-33.4%</td></tr><tr><td><b>Sum Of The Parts</b></td><td><b>$433</b></td><td><b>$350</b></td><td><b>-18.5%</b></td></tr></tbody></table><p>Source: Author&#39;s compilation</p><p>If you look at how the analysts&#39; assumptions have changed, we see only 3 concrete changes here: 1) the number of vehicles produced in 2030 is now reduced by 0.9 million units (-10.5%); 2) the WACC is increased by 0.2% (8.7% vs. 8.5%); and 3) the exit EBITDA margin is increased from 20% to 21%. This applies directly to the main revenue stream (Core Tesla Auto business) - the assumptions for the other parts are not disclosed (I assume the WACC has been applied to them as well, considering that Tesla Mobility&#39;s DCF has decreased by 12.5% without any visible adjustments in inputs).</p><p>That is, broadly speaking, the entire decline in the target price (the top rightmost column above) is due to A) a slight slowdown in operations, and B) a slight 0.2% increase in WACC. At the same time, a new, more positive improvement in business margins has by no means kept the target price for TSLA from correcting. In my opinion, the WACC was not raised high enough by analysts and should have been raised by more than 1% instead of 0.2%. Why do I think so?</p><p><b>First,</b> the analysts had to account for higher betas, that mostly increased since their previous call (June 16, 2022):</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d2a07a7f6dd7206ed566e9dcc98a2649\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"484\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Data by YCharts</p><p>Higher beta - higher WACC. Of course, it is possible that they took a 3-year coefficient, but then it would be cherry-picking. It is unlikely that the Morgan Stanley analysts did this (I really hope so).</p><p><b>The second</b> is the rising risk-free rate, which mostly corresponds to 10-year Treasuries yield, which (theoretically) have no credit risk. The rate has risen since June 15, 2022, from 3.292% to 4.274% at the time of writing. Effective 7-10 year yields on corporate bonds have jumped even higher since then:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/63df41aa9b262fde5ad07913778940a5\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"417\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Data by YCharts</p><p><b>The third point</b> that analysts may not have taken into account in their WACC calculation is the slowdown in economic growth in China and globally, which should have been reflected in the discount rate in the form of an additional premium. Since mid-June 2022, the geopolitical situation in the world has only gotten worse (in my opinion), and the forecast for global economic growth was just recently lowered by the IMF. Therefore, this premium should have been larger, if it was included in their calculations at all.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c8ea24a9cde929b8b6ba9278044bd269\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"483\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>IMF, author&#39;s notes</p><p>If a minor 0.2% increase in WACC has led to such severe corrections in price targets for the company&#39;s various businesses, imagine how long the analysts&#39; model should run - apparently they predict all segments to 2030, using huge growth rates in their models. Even a slight deviation from these rates will cause the model to collapse. In my opinion, this is a serious risk for those who want to rely on the DCF calculations of Morgan Stanley&#39;s analysts.</p><p>JPMorgan - Trim Estimates and Price Target After Softer Trend in 3Q Volume &amp; Pricing [October 20]</p><p>AnalystsRyan Brinkman, Rajat Gupta, CFA, Manasvi Garg, et al. stick to an oppositional opinion concerning the other two banks above. They are Underweight Tesla with a price target of $150/share, revised down from $153/share, having the following reasoning:</p><blockquote>We are lowering our estimates and price target after Tesla reported modestly softer than expected 3Q22 results Wednesday after the close, featuring lower-than-consensus margin on lower-than-expected revenue. Average transaction prices rose strongly y/y, but to a level that was lower than expected, driving a -3% revenue miss given that deliveries were previously disclosed. The results will likely add to debates about demand destruction that ensued after 3Q deliveries tracked -5% below company-compiled consensus. Management itself reined in near-term growth expectations, now looking for just less than its original target of more than +50% unit growth this year vs. previous indication only that the target would be more difficult to achieve. We continue to see risk to guidance for +50% annual unit volume growth over time (in some years more, in some years less), including given higher prices, higher interest rates, an increasingly tapped-out consumer, and given the paucity of new model introductions, with Tesla&#39;s lineup essentially the same as at the start of 2021 after the last Model S &amp; X refresh, with the Cybertruck (originally slated for 2021) still on tap. Automotive gross margin of 26.8% missed Bloomberg consensus of 27.7%, with management citing persistent inflationary pressures, including higher logistics costs. We remain cautious on valuation, particularly in the context of lofty unit volume growth expectations, and continue to see material downside risk to our December 2023 price target, which declines today to $150 from $153, on account of unchanged target multiples applied to our slightly lower estimates, which decline primarily on flow-through of 3Q&#39;s softer-than-expected trend in demand expressed in the form of lower transaction prices.</blockquote><blockquote>Source: JPMorgan&#39;s TSLA report, October 20</blockquote><p>Their price target methodology is less sophisticated than Morgan Stanley&#39;s one (and more reasonable, in my opinion, than that of BofA) and is predicated upon a 50/50 blend of DCF and 2025E-based multiples analysis (itself a blend of P/E, EV/EBITDA, and price-to-sales).</p><p>And if you take a look at JPM&#39;s Key Figures table, theirs seem much more realistic - at least the analysts take into account a more reasonable multiple and margin contractions as Tesla expands its business and matures:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b6bc5018373d282566815bd6816da0b6\" tg-width=\"581\" tg-height=\"631\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>JPMorgan, TSLA report, October 20</p><p>They propose to focus on equal weighting of 3 coefficients to find fair value (50% of the model) and DCF calculations for the remaining half. If they had focused solely on DCF, they would have received $129 per share on exit - and against a backdrop of rapidly growing FCF. However, FCF-based valuation has shown in practice how indifferent the market is to it concerning Tesla - just take a look at the stock rating history from Ryan Brinkman, the lead author of the above JPM report:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/58a254263a2a3a5480f2c67ead96566c\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"364\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>TipRanks, Ryan Brinkman, October 21</p><p>I am not saying Ryan is wrong this time either - &#34;past performance is no guarantee of future performance&#34; applies in reverse as well, let us not forget that. However, I am skeptical about FCF as a driver for determining Tesla&#39;s intrinsic value - it is much more correct to look at multiples and their compression over time. The current state of the company&#39;s valuation is more in line with JPMorgan than BofA or MS - given the increasing risks of Tesla losing its 50% growth rate in 2023 and 2024, I think we are in for a bumpy ride, and the only opportunity for buy-and-hold investors, if you consider yourself one, is to hedge.</p><p>GLJ Research - the numbers TSLA reports are LIKELY NOT REAL [October 20]</p><p>One risk that has long been talked about and is unlikely to be taken seriously by experts is the possibility of falsified reporting. More and more people keep doubting that Tesla can grow such volumes based on sub-ten percent OPEX and CAPEX growth (you may have noticed that this was one of Morgan Stanley&#39;s bullish arguments).</p><p>Gordon Johnson from GLJ Research - ranked by Bloomberg among the top stock pickers in the steel, iron ore, graphite electrode, electric vehicle, and solar spaces since initiating coverage in 2008 - writes, that with 2 of its 4 plants operating at just ~10% capacity, TSLA&#39;s gross margins expansion from 25.0% to 26.61% (per Bloomberg) is not possible.</p><blockquote>In short, we believe the numbers TSLA reports are largely &#34;fiction,&#34; resulting from aggressive accounting applied via the Shanghai plant, among other &#34;tricks&#34; used. And, given modeling numbers that are &#34;fiction&#34; is impossible, this time (i.e., for 3Q22), we aren’t going to even try (we see LARGE incentive for E. Musk to be as aggressive as possible, from an accounting perspective, given he has ~$15B-$20B worth of shares still left to sell to close the Twitter buyout... by our calculation). That is, using one example of TSLA&#39;s many accounting shenanigans, while pretty much every other automaker includes R&amp;D in the gross profit they report, TSLA pushes this metric below the gross profit line, allowing it to claim industry leading margins; yet, when adjusting R&amp;D out of COGS for TSLA, TSLA’s margins rank 11th among global automakers according to Bloomberg.</blockquote><blockquote>Source: Gordon Johnson from GLJ Research</blockquote><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/88b14d65af952a9e91fd7bf618a44557\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"594\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Bloomberg, GLJ Research</p><p>Mr. Johnson warns us - demand today is quite meager on all fronts, as evidenced by the company&#39;s own preliminary statistics and official government sources:</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bdab92dd02be42cc98d2eea0f9b03473\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"115\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>GLJ Research LLC</p><p>GLJ Research&#39;s analysts give 5 reasons to believe TSLA is artificially boosting its revenue numbers:</p><ol><li>Revenues up 56% (YoY) amid expenses up only 2% (YoY);</li><li>CAPEX is flat (YoY) when construction of Berlin and Austin is done, which seems impossible. TSLA may be capitalizing more expenses than it should on the balance sheet, thus possibly overstating margins;</li><li>TSLA&#39;s SG&amp;A is still running at $1B/qtr, roughly the same as two years ago, despite selling 2x as many cars;</li><li>Gross margins staying up with 2 new factories open, making just a fraction of their vehicle capacity;</li><li>Inventory is up 98% (YoY) while sales up 56%. Inventory should keep pace with sales, not outpace it - unless you capitalize raw materials for inventory which you can&#39;t move and don&#39;t impair so as not to take a profit hit.</li></ol><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c0ba728f76aeae0a3d1f51a7d7769e2e\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"124\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>GLJ Research LLC</p><p>All this looks strange, but it looks even stranger that no one can clearly refute these arguments that support TSLA&#39;s balance sheet fraud. If you can - I am really interested, please share your take in the comments.</p><p><b>Bottom Line</b></p><p>In this article, I took a closer look at the banks&#39; recent analysis and reaction to Tesla&#39;s latest quarterly report. After reading and analyzing everything I had on hands, and also examining the banks&#39; methods of calculating their price targets, I conclude that JPM has come closest to the truth with a reasonable estimate of the multiple and margin contractions over the next 5 years.</p><p>Yes, JPM&#39;s history of &#34;sell&#34; ratings looks depressing - but what if they are right this time? What if Tesla is actually fudging its books to inflate margins and boost net income above consensus?</p><p>The risks to the company are increasing, and while I do not think Tesla is going to repeat Enron&#39;s story, I understand those who think Tesla is an overvalued company. However, it is far from the only company in the market, nor is it the most overvalued. Given the support from retail investors, and assuming that the company&#39;s operational growth continues (if it is a reality), I believe that long-term investors need to hedge against growing risks anyway. Methods can vary - selling puts, pair trading ideas like the one I wrote about earlier, tactical positioning, etc. Waiting and watching as the price is exposed to the consequences of multiple contractions - which are logical today - does not look optimal, in my view.</p><p><i>This time, I rate Tesla stock as Hold.</i></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla: Accounting And Valuation Concerns</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla: Accounting And Valuation Concerns\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-10-24 11:36 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4548158-tesla-accounting-and-valuation-concerns><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryIn this article, I analyze recent reports from banks that have updated their price targets for Tesla stock since the release of Q3 results.BofA and Morgan Stanley are overly optimistic, in my ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4548158-tesla-accounting-and-valuation-concerns\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4548158-tesla-accounting-and-valuation-concerns","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1133583383","content_text":"SummaryIn this article, I analyze recent reports from banks that have updated their price targets for Tesla stock since the release of Q3 results.BofA and Morgan Stanley are overly optimistic, in my view, while JPMorgan seems closest to reality.GLJ Research's analysts give you 5 reasons to believe TSLA is artificially boosting its revenue numbers.Waiting and watching as the price is exposed to the consequences of multiple contractions - which are logical today - does not look optimal, in my view.This time, I rate Tesla stock as Hold.IntroductionIn late June 2022, I posted a pair trade idea in which I recommended buying Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA) and selling Lucid Group, Inc. (LCID) stock short (in equal dollar amounts). My pitch was simple enough. Both companies look overvalued in terms of absolute multiples. Still, due to more efficient operational growth, Tesla should have experienced a much less noticeable multiple contraction than Lucid while receiving much more support from retail investors.A few months have passed since then. The S&P 500 (SPX) fell even lower, dragging the rest of the market with it, including the companies mentioned above. But my thesis was justified - the difference in the magnitude of the declines in TSLA and LCID would bring a potential investor +22.9% (gross, before deducting brokerage commissions for shorting LCID):Seeking Alpha, Ycharts, author's notesAt the time, I recommended holding this deal until the end of the year. However, in my article today, I want to look at the recent banks' equity research reports on Tesla's financial results. Let us take a look at them and try to assess how logical their forecasts and conclusions are and whether they should be trusted.Bank of America - 3Q results look pretty good to us – first take [October 19]Analysts John Murphy, CFA, John P. Babcock, and Federico Merendi reiterated a Neutral rating on Tesla with a price objective (PO) of $325 per share - that's 3.17% higher than their previous PO of $315.Moreover, BofA said much the same thing as I did when I put forward my thesis in June - TSLA's self-funding status is a notable advantage over some startup competitors in the electric car space, but because its valuation is the result of optimistic projections for a long future (recall the 50% growth target), it will be quite difficult for the quotes to grow strongly in the near future.However, why did the bank raise its TSLA price target anyway? The issue is how the actual results differed from what analysts had expected from the company:BofA, TSLA report, October 19I can understand why the analysts were wrong in forecasting gross profit - the variance seems negligible. But to be wrong on operating expenses (OPEX) by 15% and on taxes by 38.8%? If Tesla really is not just faking its books - we will get into that later - but is working as we see in the statements, then the company's operating efficiency makes one sit up and take notice because even top analysts could not imagine how Elon Musk could save so much on OPEX this quarter.BofA values the company using EV/Sales and EV/EBITDA multiples, but $325/share is too optimistic a target in my opinion. Let us look at their logic. BofA analysts expect EV/EBITDA to be 41x in 2022, down 37.1% from 2021. At the same time, EBITDA growth will be 59.2% in 2022. This is such a sharp decline in the multiple against the backdrop of such a high growth rate in the underlying financial metric. In 2023, however, EBITDA is expected to grow by only 7% - many times less than in the previous year. However, the analysts' forecast includes a much less modest contraction of 6.6% in 2023, which is not in line with the trend of recent years:BofA, TSLA report, with author's calculations and notesIn my view, the EV/EBITDA multiple in 2023 should be at least 30x, if not lower, if the multiple contraction continues - and it should, given lower growth forecasts and a generally higher interest rate environment - implying a 27% reduction in the multiple from 2022 to 2023. At EBITDA of $19.916 billion in 2023 (BofA's estimate), enterprise value should be about $600 billion - that's 5.5% below the current one.Morgan Stanley - 3Q Margins Beat, But FY23 Outlook Still at Risk [October 19]AnalystsAdam Jonas, CFA, Evan Silverberg, CFA, CPA, et al. released an update of their Overweight rating, having $350 per share as a new price objective - below its pre-split target of $1300(about $433 per share).Morgan Stanley, like BofA, was wrong about growth in OPEX, interest expense, and stock-based compensation. The company's lower-than-expected CAPEX coupled with stronger EPS growth resulted in a 153.6% undervaluation of FCF:MS, TSLA report, October 19The key takeaways from their analysis of TSLA's report:expected cost inflation related to logistics/shipping as well as adverse timing differences related to supplier payments given significant input cost inflation on the battery and non-battery side. That didn't happen;If one were to inflation adjust the YoY moves in CAPEX and OPEX, Tesla's clearly doing more with less;Supercharging revenue will most likely get above 10% of Tesla's total revenue within the next 12 to 18 months;Production is ramping up at the 40-GWh Megapack factory in California - a solid win for the company, demonstrating its strength and focus on the battery front.Okay, but why did analysts lower their TSLA price target?Here you have to look at the input data for their SOTP 6-component model:MS, TSLA report, October 19Our PT of $433 is comprised of 6 components:(1)$203/share for core Tesla Auto business on 8.6mm units in 2030, 8.5% WACC, 15x 2030 exit EBITDA multiple, exit EBITDA margin of 20%.(2)Tesla Mobility at $25 on DCF with ~500k cars at $1.7/mile by 2030.(3)Tesla as a 3rd party supplier at $44/share.4)Energy at $37/share,5)Insurance at $12/share, &6)Network Services at $113, 25mm MAUs, $100 ARPU by 2030, 20% discount.Source: Investing.com, author's adjustment for the split (3:1)Segment / DateJun 16, 2022(rounded)NowChangeCore Tesla Auto business$203$287Tesla Mobility$25$221.4%3rd party supplier$44$27-38.2%Energy$37$31-16.2%Insurance$12$8-35.1%Network Services$113$75-33.4%Sum Of The Parts$433$4504.6%Source: Author's compilationIf you add up all the parts of the analysts' outputs, it shows that their SOTP model does indeed show a price target of $453 per share - I suspect that the Morgan Stanley analysts mistyped their report and wrote $287 instead of $187 because the difference is exactly $100 while the WACC is higher and the sales volume is lower than before. Here's how the above table should most likely look like:Segment / DateJun 16, 2022 (rounded)NowChangeCore Tesla Auto business$203$187-7.7%Tesla Mobility$25$221.4%3rd party supplier$45$27-38.2%Energy$37$31-16.2%Insurance$12$8-35.1%Network Services$113$75-33.4%Sum Of The Parts$433$350-18.5%Source: Author's compilationIf you look at how the analysts' assumptions have changed, we see only 3 concrete changes here: 1) the number of vehicles produced in 2030 is now reduced by 0.9 million units (-10.5%); 2) the WACC is increased by 0.2% (8.7% vs. 8.5%); and 3) the exit EBITDA margin is increased from 20% to 21%. This applies directly to the main revenue stream (Core Tesla Auto business) - the assumptions for the other parts are not disclosed (I assume the WACC has been applied to them as well, considering that Tesla Mobility's DCF has decreased by 12.5% without any visible adjustments in inputs).That is, broadly speaking, the entire decline in the target price (the top rightmost column above) is due to A) a slight slowdown in operations, and B) a slight 0.2% increase in WACC. At the same time, a new, more positive improvement in business margins has by no means kept the target price for TSLA from correcting. In my opinion, the WACC was not raised high enough by analysts and should have been raised by more than 1% instead of 0.2%. Why do I think so?First, the analysts had to account for higher betas, that mostly increased since their previous call (June 16, 2022):Data by YChartsHigher beta - higher WACC. Of course, it is possible that they took a 3-year coefficient, but then it would be cherry-picking. It is unlikely that the Morgan Stanley analysts did this (I really hope so).The second is the rising risk-free rate, which mostly corresponds to 10-year Treasuries yield, which (theoretically) have no credit risk. The rate has risen since June 15, 2022, from 3.292% to 4.274% at the time of writing. Effective 7-10 year yields on corporate bonds have jumped even higher since then:Data by YChartsThe third point that analysts may not have taken into account in their WACC calculation is the slowdown in economic growth in China and globally, which should have been reflected in the discount rate in the form of an additional premium. Since mid-June 2022, the geopolitical situation in the world has only gotten worse (in my opinion), and the forecast for global economic growth was just recently lowered by the IMF. Therefore, this premium should have been larger, if it was included in their calculations at all.IMF, author's notesIf a minor 0.2% increase in WACC has led to such severe corrections in price targets for the company's various businesses, imagine how long the analysts' model should run - apparently they predict all segments to 2030, using huge growth rates in their models. Even a slight deviation from these rates will cause the model to collapse. In my opinion, this is a serious risk for those who want to rely on the DCF calculations of Morgan Stanley's analysts.JPMorgan - Trim Estimates and Price Target After Softer Trend in 3Q Volume & Pricing [October 20]AnalystsRyan Brinkman, Rajat Gupta, CFA, Manasvi Garg, et al. stick to an oppositional opinion concerning the other two banks above. They are Underweight Tesla with a price target of $150/share, revised down from $153/share, having the following reasoning:We are lowering our estimates and price target after Tesla reported modestly softer than expected 3Q22 results Wednesday after the close, featuring lower-than-consensus margin on lower-than-expected revenue. Average transaction prices rose strongly y/y, but to a level that was lower than expected, driving a -3% revenue miss given that deliveries were previously disclosed. The results will likely add to debates about demand destruction that ensued after 3Q deliveries tracked -5% below company-compiled consensus. Management itself reined in near-term growth expectations, now looking for just less than its original target of more than +50% unit growth this year vs. previous indication only that the target would be more difficult to achieve. We continue to see risk to guidance for +50% annual unit volume growth over time (in some years more, in some years less), including given higher prices, higher interest rates, an increasingly tapped-out consumer, and given the paucity of new model introductions, with Tesla's lineup essentially the same as at the start of 2021 after the last Model S & X refresh, with the Cybertruck (originally slated for 2021) still on tap. Automotive gross margin of 26.8% missed Bloomberg consensus of 27.7%, with management citing persistent inflationary pressures, including higher logistics costs. We remain cautious on valuation, particularly in the context of lofty unit volume growth expectations, and continue to see material downside risk to our December 2023 price target, which declines today to $150 from $153, on account of unchanged target multiples applied to our slightly lower estimates, which decline primarily on flow-through of 3Q's softer-than-expected trend in demand expressed in the form of lower transaction prices.Source: JPMorgan's TSLA report, October 20Their price target methodology is less sophisticated than Morgan Stanley's one (and more reasonable, in my opinion, than that of BofA) and is predicated upon a 50/50 blend of DCF and 2025E-based multiples analysis (itself a blend of P/E, EV/EBITDA, and price-to-sales).And if you take a look at JPM's Key Figures table, theirs seem much more realistic - at least the analysts take into account a more reasonable multiple and margin contractions as Tesla expands its business and matures:JPMorgan, TSLA report, October 20They propose to focus on equal weighting of 3 coefficients to find fair value (50% of the model) and DCF calculations for the remaining half. If they had focused solely on DCF, they would have received $129 per share on exit - and against a backdrop of rapidly growing FCF. However, FCF-based valuation has shown in practice how indifferent the market is to it concerning Tesla - just take a look at the stock rating history from Ryan Brinkman, the lead author of the above JPM report:TipRanks, Ryan Brinkman, October 21I am not saying Ryan is wrong this time either - \"past performance is no guarantee of future performance\" applies in reverse as well, let us not forget that. However, I am skeptical about FCF as a driver for determining Tesla's intrinsic value - it is much more correct to look at multiples and their compression over time. The current state of the company's valuation is more in line with JPMorgan than BofA or MS - given the increasing risks of Tesla losing its 50% growth rate in 2023 and 2024, I think we are in for a bumpy ride, and the only opportunity for buy-and-hold investors, if you consider yourself one, is to hedge.GLJ Research - the numbers TSLA reports are LIKELY NOT REAL [October 20]One risk that has long been talked about and is unlikely to be taken seriously by experts is the possibility of falsified reporting. More and more people keep doubting that Tesla can grow such volumes based on sub-ten percent OPEX and CAPEX growth (you may have noticed that this was one of Morgan Stanley's bullish arguments).Gordon Johnson from GLJ Research - ranked by Bloomberg among the top stock pickers in the steel, iron ore, graphite electrode, electric vehicle, and solar spaces since initiating coverage in 2008 - writes, that with 2 of its 4 plants operating at just ~10% capacity, TSLA's gross margins expansion from 25.0% to 26.61% (per Bloomberg) is not possible.In short, we believe the numbers TSLA reports are largely \"fiction,\" resulting from aggressive accounting applied via the Shanghai plant, among other \"tricks\" used. And, given modeling numbers that are \"fiction\" is impossible, this time (i.e., for 3Q22), we aren’t going to even try (we see LARGE incentive for E. Musk to be as aggressive as possible, from an accounting perspective, given he has ~$15B-$20B worth of shares still left to sell to close the Twitter buyout... by our calculation). That is, using one example of TSLA's many accounting shenanigans, while pretty much every other automaker includes R&D in the gross profit they report, TSLA pushes this metric below the gross profit line, allowing it to claim industry leading margins; yet, when adjusting R&D out of COGS for TSLA, TSLA’s margins rank 11th among global automakers according to Bloomberg.Source: Gordon Johnson from GLJ ResearchBloomberg, GLJ ResearchMr. Johnson warns us - demand today is quite meager on all fronts, as evidenced by the company's own preliminary statistics and official government sources:GLJ Research LLCGLJ Research's analysts give 5 reasons to believe TSLA is artificially boosting its revenue numbers:Revenues up 56% (YoY) amid expenses up only 2% (YoY);CAPEX is flat (YoY) when construction of Berlin and Austin is done, which seems impossible. TSLA may be capitalizing more expenses than it should on the balance sheet, thus possibly overstating margins;TSLA's SG&A is still running at $1B/qtr, roughly the same as two years ago, despite selling 2x as many cars;Gross margins staying up with 2 new factories open, making just a fraction of their vehicle capacity;Inventory is up 98% (YoY) while sales up 56%. Inventory should keep pace with sales, not outpace it - unless you capitalize raw materials for inventory which you can't move and don't impair so as not to take a profit hit.GLJ Research LLCAll this looks strange, but it looks even stranger that no one can clearly refute these arguments that support TSLA's balance sheet fraud. If you can - I am really interested, please share your take in the comments.Bottom LineIn this article, I took a closer look at the banks' recent analysis and reaction to Tesla's latest quarterly report. After reading and analyzing everything I had on hands, and also examining the banks' methods of calculating their price targets, I conclude that JPM has come closest to the truth with a reasonable estimate of the multiple and margin contractions over the next 5 years.Yes, JPM's history of \"sell\" ratings looks depressing - but what if they are right this time? What if Tesla is actually fudging its books to inflate margins and boost net income above consensus?The risks to the company are increasing, and while I do not think Tesla is going to repeat Enron's story, I understand those who think Tesla is an overvalued company. However, it is far from the only company in the market, nor is it the most overvalued. Given the support from retail investors, and assuming that the company's operational growth continues (if it is a reality), I believe that long-term investors need to hedge against growing risks anyway. Methods can vary - selling puts, pair trading ideas like the one I wrote about earlier, tactical positioning, etc. Waiting and watching as the price is exposed to the consequences of multiple contractions - which are logical today - does not look optimal, in my view.This time, I rate Tesla stock as Hold.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":155,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9062955318,"gmtCreate":1651992188734,"gmtModify":1676535010661,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Oh no","listText":"Oh no","text":"Oh no","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9062955318","repostId":"1131831539","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1131831539","pubTimestamp":1651980653,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1131831539?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2022-05-08 11:30","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla: Overvalued By 85.26% And Not A Technology Company","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1131831539","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryMake no mistake, Tesla is a phenomenal company that has accomplished the unthinkable as it broke through extreme barriers of entry to disrupt the auto industry.Just because Tesla is a successfu","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Summary</p><ul><li>Make no mistake, Tesla is a phenomenal company that has accomplished the unthinkable as it broke through extreme barriers of entry to disrupt the auto industry.</li><li>Just because Tesla is a successful company that is causing automotive titans to change from combustible engines to EVs doesn&#39;t mean Tesla&#39;s stock is a good investment today.</li><li>100% of gross profit and net income is generated from the automotive sector as Tesla&#39;s other businesses lose money, making them an automobile manufacturing company, not a technology company.</li><li>I compared Tesla&#39;s metrics to the auto industry and big tech and the results are the same, Tesla&#39;s valuation is egregious.</li></ul><p>It&#39;s rare to find companies that have cult-like followings with loyalists willing to pay any price for its stock. The debate regarding Tesla, Inc.&#39;s (NASDAQ:TSLA) valuation continues to be a topic of conversation between the bulls and the bears. Oneside argues that TSLA&#39;s financial growth and future prospects, including FSD, insurance, and robotaxis, justify the current $902.12 billion valuations, while others argue that the current financials and cult-like following have led to a massive overvaluation in TSLA&#39;s stock.</p><p>I tip my hat to Elon Musk, as his accomplishments are second to none. When others called him crazy, Mr. Musk chose one of the hardest industries to compete in, started TSLA from the ground up, went to battle against the auto manufacturers, and succeeded. TSLA is one of the rare success stories that has truly shaped an industry, and the barriers of entry that were overcome are astonishing. TSLA didn&#39;t have the capital, manufacturing, credibility, or the infrastructure that its competitors did, yet they found a way to succeed. If the odds weren&#39;t enough which TSLA faced, they accomplished their goals without a combustible engine and pioneered an entirely new sector within the automotive industry.</p><p>Just because TSLA is a great company, it doesn&#39;t mean TSLA has a great stock, or it isn&#39;t overvalued. I am not bearish on TSLA the company because I believe they still have a long runway of growth ahead of them, but I am bearish on the valuation. Prior to leaving a comment on why I am wrong, please read the article and think about the metrics I am citing; then, I will happily discuss any viewpoints about the analysis.</p><p><b>Tesla Vs. The World In The Automotive Sector</b></p><p>It feels like TSLA vs. the world whenever TSLA is discussed. Discussing who makes a better automobile is a matter of opinion, and everyone is correct because it&#39;s their opinion. If person A thinks TSLA makes the best car and person B thinks Mercedes Benz makes the best car, they are both correct. Debating over this is pointless, so let&#39;s look at the raw numbers.</p><p>TSLA has a larger market cap than the combination ofToyota(TM),Volkswagen(OTCPK:VWAGY),Daimler(OTCPK:DDAIF),BMW(OTCPK:BMWYY),General Motors(GM),Ford(F),Honda(HMC),Ferrari(RACE),Nissan(OTCPK:NSANY),Subaru(OTCPK:FUJHY),Volvo(OTCPK:VOLAF), andMazda(OTCPK:MZDAY). TSLA&#39;s market cap is currently $986.92 billion, while the combination of these 12 companies is $777.41 billion.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ff930d2442bf282c1bd880cca408eb94\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"327\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Steven Fiorillo</p><p>The P/S ratio is often cited to justify the valuation. The combination of TM, VWAGY, DDAIF, BMWYY, GM, F, HMC, RACE, NSANY, FUJHY, VOLAF, and MZDAY has generated $1.38 trillion in revenue over the TTM, putting their P/S at 0.56, while TSLA has generated $62.19 billion in revenue and has a 15.87 P/S.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c9b9661fde232925a758c38fd2e93f36\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"330\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Steven Fiorillo, Seeking Alpha</p><p>As a combined entity, these 12 companies have generated $118.29 billion in net income, while TSLA has produced $8.4 billion.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d25806eb839eb9ca2b4ef3c24218048c\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"330\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Steven Fiorillo, Seeking Alpha</p><p>TSLA is a great company, but its current valuation has become overly inflated. TSLA&#39;s market cap is $209.52 billion larger than these 12 auto manufacturers, yet the combination of the 12 auto manufacturers generates $1.32 trillion more in revenue and $109.89 billion more in net income.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a1b686de4009ca733ff9651ce0d9fcaf\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"348\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Steven Fiorillo, Seeking Alpha</p><p>Looking at the market caps, one would assume that TSLA has a dominant majority over its competitors in auto sales within the U.S. According to the2021 data, TSLA sold 2.02% of all vehicles in the U.S. TSLA&#39;s market cap reflects a level of dominance that is non-existent.</p><p>Realistically, TSLA will have a hard time disrupting the sector further due to the price point of their vehicles. The reality is that, unless TSLA can sell a car that rivals a Honda or Toyota, doubling its market share is going to be a daunting task. It&#39;s just math. TSLA doesn&#39;t have a product for the masses, and while it may continue to grow in the luxury segment, the amount of growth that can be achieved is limited due to the pricing power of the consumer.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/442ffe151dd83bc524785857925f9797\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"227\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>www.goodcarbadcar.net</p><p><b>Tesla Isn&#39;t A Technology Company And Shouldn&#39;t Be Valued As One</b></p><p>The valuation rebuttal has always been that TSLA isn&#39;t an automobile company, rather, it&#39;s a technology company.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bbc9ccb2cb8a0e7d40804db24e183214\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"341\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Tesla</p><p>Page 23 ofTSLA&#39;s Q1 2022 slide deck from their earnings call is their statement of operations. Once again, 100% of TSLA&#39;s gross profit and net income are derived from automobiles. Energy generation and storage lose money as it generates $616 million in revenue while the cost of this revenue is $688 million. The same goes for Services and others, as this segment generates $1.279 billion in revenue while the cost of this revenue is $1.286 billion. This doesn&#39;t even factor in operating expenses.</p><p>TSLA manufacturers state of the art automobiles, but this doesn&#39;t classify them as a technology company, nor should they be classified as one. Since this is always the rebuttal and technology companies trade at larger earnings multiples, I will compare TSLA to Apple (AAPL), Microsoft (MSFT), Amazon (AMZN), Alphabet (GOOG) (GOOGL), and Meta Platforms (FB) and illustrate why TSLA is still drastically overvalued if the market was still to provide it with a tech multiple.</p><p>Prior to the comparisons, I want to frame the analysis by providing each company&#39;s market cap:</p><ul><li>AAPL $2.69 Trillion</li><li>MSFT $2.17 Trillion</li><li>GOOGL $1.62 Trillion</li><li>AMZN $1.28 Trillion</li><li>TSLA $986.92 Billion</li><li>FB $604.62 Billion</li></ul><p>I am going to start with growth because this is always the key metric bulls point out. Since the close of 2018, which is 3.25 fiscal years, TSLA has grown its revenue from $21.46 billion to $62.19 billion.</p><p>This is absolutely remarkable, but it doesn&#39;t place TSLA in the upper epsilon of technology companies. Over the same period, FB grew its revenue by $63.83 billion, which is more than what TSLA produced in the TTM. FB grew its revenue by more than what TSLA produces and generates just about double the revenue ($119.67 billion), yet TSLA has a larger market cap. For everyone who has used growth as their investment premise, FB having a market cap that&#39;s $382.30 less than TSLA nullifies that aspect of the bull thesis. AMZN&#39;s market cap is only $294.33 billion larger than TSLA, yet they generated $477.75 billion in revenue and grew their revenue by $341.76 billion in this period. Using revenue growth for TSLA doesn&#39;t support the valuation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3c0fbd4eb93f026c4575ee8f77f53e4b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"396\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Steven Fiorillo, Seeking Alpha</p><p>Next, I will turn to profits because, at the end of the day, businesses are in the business of making money. Once again, TSLA has done a fantastic job of monetizing its business and, in 3.25 short years, has gone from losing -$976 million to make $8.4 billion in the TTM for an increase of $9.38 billion. FB has produced $37.34 billion in profit in the TTM, and its net income grew by $15.23 billion over this period. Using growth doesn&#39;t support the valuation when FB has a market cap that&#39;s $382.30 less than TSLA and grew its profits in this period by almost double what TSLA has generated in the TTM.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c9716477607711ee0b6d4f77eb24c890\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"382\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Steven Fiorillo, Seeking Alpha</p><p>The new metric bulls are using in their thesis is TSLA&#39;s free cash flow (FCF). Once again, TSLA has done an excellent job, going from -$221 million of FCF in 2018 to $6.93 billion of FCF in the TTM. Many companies would love to grow their annual FCF by $7.15 billion over a 3.25-year period, and this should be applauded.</p><p>Let&#39;s look at FB once again, since TSLA&#39;s valuation isn&#39;t based on its core segment as an automobile manufacturer. FB has grown its FCF over the previous 3.25 years by $23.45 billion, more than 3x TSLA&#39;s growth, and has generated $39.81 billion of FCF in the TTM. FB generated roughly 5.75x more FCF than TSLA and grew its FCF by more than 3x what TSLA produces, yet FB has a market cap that&#39;s almost $400 billion less than TSLA. Growth within the financials does not support TSLA&#39;s valuation, which is a breath away from $1 trillion.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/902a7074eda9e8f2f2765e0833423d2c\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"373\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Steven Fiorillo, Seeking Alpha</p><p>Today you&#39;re paying a 113.81 P/E for TSLA. Paying a larger multiple for a company that&#39;s growing its earnings quickly is normal, but TSLA isn&#39;t growing by larger amounts than FB, and FB trades at a 16.66 P/E. I have seen TSLA bulls justify the P/E because of TSLA&#39;s growth factor, but this doesn&#39;t hold up when FB has grown by larger amounts from larger starting positions and has a P/E that&#39;s a fraction of TSLA. Look at AAPL, which is the largest company in the world. AAPL has grown its net income by $56.25 billion and its FCF by $52.3 billion over the past 3.25 years, and its P/E is 26.78. People are blindly paying any multiple the market places on TSLA.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/75168f6e39ced721cf0c53d78481a983\" tg-width=\"614\" tg-height=\"335\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>TSLA is trading at a 15.38 P/S. The justification for this multiple is difficult to defend while AMZN trades at a P/S of 11.31. AMZN&#39;s revenue grew by $341.76 billion over the past 3.25 years while TSLA grew their revenue by $40.73 billion. Instead of an absolute basis, looking at this from a percentage aspect, TSLA grew its revenue by 189.78%, while AMZN&#39;s grew by 251.32%. The P/S ratio is not a supporting valuation metric as TSLA is trading at a larger multiple than AMZN yet produced $301.03 billion less in revenue growth compared to AMZN. At the very least, TSLA should trade at a lower P/S multiple than AMZN considering their revenue growth was a fraction of AMZN&#39;s.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/aad00a6c490808962705a1a2dae45cfe\" tg-width=\"608\" tg-height=\"338\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>TSLA has done an excellent job monetizing its revenue, delivering exceptional margins, and generating FCF. Now that TSLA is generating billions in FCF, it&#39;s been inserted into the bull thesis. FCF is a measure of profitability that excludes the non-cash expenses of the income statement and includes spending on equipment and assets as well as changes in working capital from the balance sheet. FCF could be the most underrated and most important financial metric to look at, as this is the pool of capital that companies can utilize to repay debt, pay dividends, buy back shares, make acquisitions, or reinvest in the business.</p><p>Every investment is the present value of all future cash flow. This is why investors look at the price to FCF valuation. Investors want to pay the cheapest multiple for a company&#39;s FCF. Today, you&#39;re paying 142.52x TSLA&#39;s FCF. Going back to the FCF section, TSLA grew its FCF by $7.15 billion over the past 3.25 years. FB generated $23.45 billion of FCF in this period, which is 3x the amount TSLA grew, yet FB is trading at a 15.19x multiple on price to FCF.</p><p>Why on earth would you want to pay 142.52x for TSLA&#39;s FCF when you could pay 15.19x for FB, which is growing their FCF by more than 3x the amount that TSLA is growing by? How about AAPL? AAPL grew its FCF by $52.3 billion and trades at a 25.4x price to FCF. If I exclude FB for a moment, should TSLA trade at a larger FCF multiple than GOOGL, which has grown its FCF by $46.15 billion over the past 3.25 years? My answer is no because there is no guarantee that TSLA will ever generate $46.15 billion in annual FCF, let alone the $68.99 billion in FCF that GOOGL generates.</p><p>So what is a fair price to FCF multiple for TSLA? I don&#39;t believe TSLA has earned the right to trade at the same multiples as the rest of big tech considering the levels of FCF they produce. If I stick with the methodology that FB is egregiously undervalued, then TSLA should trade above 15.19x its FCF but lower than the 23.42x multiple GOOGL trades at.</p><p>I don&#39;t want to be overly bearish, so I will place a 21x multiple on TSLA&#39;s FCF, which is more than fair considering big tech metrics. A 21x multiple on TSLA&#39;s FCF puts its market cap at $145.43 billion, which is -85.26% from its current market cap of $986.92 billion. It&#39;s just math, and if TSLA is going to be valued as a technology company, it needs to be compared to the technology companies with similar market caps.</p><p>At the very least, there isn&#39;t a single reason why TSLA&#39;s market cap is larger than FB&#39;s. There isn&#39;t a single metric that TSLA beats FB in. Based on FB&#39;s valuation, if TSLA traded at the same FCF multiple, it would have a market cap of $105.19 billion.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b81a61d60d9ec098276569cc4a501da0\" tg-width=\"627\" tg-height=\"341\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>TSLA has a gross profit margin of 27.1% ($16.85b / $62.19b) and a profit margin of 13.51% ($8.4b / $62.19b). FB has a gross profit margin of 80.34% ($96.14b / $119.67b) and a profit margin of 31.2% ($37.34b / $119.67b). FB has much wider margins and is growing its revenue by larger amounts. This reinforces my methodology as to why TSLA is grossly overvalued. GOOGL has a gross profit margin of 56.93% ($153.9b / $270.33b) and a profit margin of 27.57% ($74.54b / $270.33b).</p><p>The chances are incredibly slim that TSLA can double its profit margin to be within striking distance of GOOGL&#39;s. TSLA should not trade at a larger FCF, P/E, or P/S multiple than FB or GOOGL. While the market would indicate that I am wrong today, eventually, the hype will wear off, and TSLA will trade at a realistic valuation.</p><p><b>TSLA&#39;s Future Catalysts Have A Long Way To Go Before Impacting Its Bottom Line</b></p><p>There are three main catalysts people discuss, which include insurance, robotaxis, and FSD.TSLA offers insurance using real-time driving behavior. This is currently available to all Model S, Model 3, Model X, and Model Y owners. The catch is that it&#39;s only available in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Ohio, Oregon, Texas, and Virginia as of now.</p><p>TSLA uses a safety rating score to determine the monthly premium for its vehicles. At the largest premium of $130/mo, this would be $1,560 per year. If TSLA converted 100% of their U.S sales in 2021 as an insurance customer, which I think could be possible if TSLA insurance was available in every state, it would have generated $471.12 million in revenue.</p><p>We have no idea what the margins would have been, but if the margin was 50%, it would have been an additional $235.56 million in net income in 2021. While this is nothing to sneeze at, an additional $235.56 million in net income hardly moves the needle. This could be a $1 billion top-line revenue segment in the future, but with availability in only 7 states, insurance&#39;s $1 billion revenue mark is a long way away.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e86de6232b9abf7cee46a9607eb09741\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"326\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Tesla</p><p>Next,FSD, for which TSLA has created two subscription models, a $99/mo price point and a $199/mo price point. The problem with FSD is that it doesn&#39;t make the vehicle fully autonomous, and you still need a driver to be attentive and alert. While I am not arguing that TSLA&#39;s FSD isn&#39;t leaps and bounds ahead of the competition, the problem is that it&#39;s not exactly a self-driving car.</p><p>The questions around legality and where you can use it pop into my head, and how many of TSLA&#39;s drivers opt for this upgrade. Until there is clear legislation and the technology advances to where vehicles can fully drive a person from point A to B while that person takes a nap or reads, I have a hard time believing enough TSLA owners will spend the extra $199/mo on FSD. If there is somewhere where TSLA produces the numbers about how many owners opt for this package, please let me know, and I will crunch the numbers.</p><p>Which Features Come With My Subscription?</p><blockquote>The FSD capability features you receive are based on your configuration and location. Not all features are available in all markets, and features are subject to change.Learn more about Autopilot and Full Self-Driving capability features.</blockquote><blockquote><i>Note: These features are designed to become more capable over time; however the currently enabled features do not make the vehicle autonomous. The currently enabled features require a fully attentive driver, who has their hands on the wheel and is prepared to take over at any moment.</i></blockquote><p>The last catalyst is Robotaxis which many have commented on in my articles before. We&#39;re so far off on Robotaxis that this can&#39;t be considered in TSLA&#39;s upcoming revenue. I would think major legislation would be needed for Robotaxis to exist, and there is no telling how many years away we are from this.</p><p>Also, what is the percentage of TSLA owners that would actually allow their vehicle to be used as a Robotaxi? Depending on what the profitability is, I can see people buying TSLAs to enroll them in this program, but, once again, we need to see the economics behind it. I know I am just one opinion, but I would never enroll one of my cars into a robotaxi program because I don&#39;t want other people that I don&#39;t know in my car. I would think there are many others that have similar viewpoints.</p><p>The real upcoming catalysts are future revenue growth and entering the Chinese market. In 2021 TSLA grew its YoY revenue by 70.67%, and their off to a great start after Q1 2022. Only time will tell what type of growth rate TSLA can maintain, but too many people are assuming that TSLA will obliterate the competition. Over the next several years, we could see TSLA&#39;s growth rate become significantly reduced as more luxury operators put EVs on the road.</p><p>At TSLA&#39;s current margins, they would need to increase their revenue by 444.55% to $276.47 billion to produce the same amount of net income ($37.34b) that FB produces today at their current 13.51% profit margin. Maybe TSLA can get there in the future, but why should TSLA be valued at almost $1 trillion today, considering not a single metric of theirs is similar to FB or GOOGL, and TSLA&#39;s growth across any of the sectors isn&#39;t larger than FB or GOOGL?</p><p><b>Tesla Continues To Dilute Shareholders, And Almost No Shareholders Care</b></p><p>Dilution kills shareholder value. Look, I am a shareholder of TSLA, and I hate that my shares continue to be diluted. These numbers are split-adjusted that I am using. Over the past decade,TSLA has diluted its shares by 80.93%. This is horrible compared to big tech, yet investors can&#39;t buy enough TSLA shares. TSLA finished 2012 with 572.6 million shares and, as of its last filing, had increased its outstanding shares to 1.036 billion shares.</p><p>This is the equivalent of me taking a pizza, and instead of giving you a slice, cutting another 6.5 slices, then giving you one. The pizza represents TSLA, the company, and they basically turned an 8-slice pie into a 14.5-slice pie, reducing shareholder&#39;s ownership and the amount of equity, revenue, and EPS our shares represent.</p><p>If you want to see what a true shepherd of shareholder value looks like, turn to AAPL. In 2012 AAPL had 26.3 billion shares outstanding. Over the past decade, AAPL has repurchased 10.09 billion shares, reducing its outstanding shares by 38.37%. Every quarter, AAPL is buying back shares and increasing the ownership its shares represent. TSLA, on the other hand, continues to dilute shareholders by increasing shares YOY.</p><p><b>I Could Be Completely Wrong, And Tesla Could Continue Growing At These Rates</b></p><p>TSLA&#39;s vehicle deliveries continue to outpace its growing production. YoY TSLA&#39;s deliveries increased by 68% in Q1, adding 125,171 delivered vehicles to its customers. TSLA just began Model Y deliveries from the Austin facility, and production at the Gigafactory in Berlin started in March of 2022. TSLA&#39;s Shanghai facility had strong production rates prior to the spike in COVID that resulted in temporary shutdowns. TSLA isn&#39;t just focusing on the U.S, they have Europe and China in their sights.</p><p>EVs accounted for 488,000 sales in the U.S for 2021, and the previous projection was that EVs would account for 670,000 units sold in 2022. Oil has hovered around $100 per barrel and could render the previous projections of 37% increased EV sales domestically for 2022 conservative. TSLA is in a prime position to capitalize on this trend. In 2021 TSLA vehicles accounted for 61.89% of EVs sold in the U.S (301,998 / 488,000).</p><p>Hypothetically, if the previous projection of 670,000 EV sales for 2022 is accurate and TSLA maintains its current margin, they would sell 414,628 vehicles throughout the U.S in 2022. If gas prices do alter the decision-making process when deciding between a combustible engine or an EV, then TSLA could continue surprising the market with QoQ earnings beats.</p><p>The U.S has a national goal of reaching 50% of domestic auto sales coming from EVs. In 2021, EVs accounted for 3.26% of total sales in the U.S auto market. Based on U.S auto sales in 2021, annual EV sales would need to grow by 6,989,403 to reach a 50% EV to combustible engine ratio. Hypothetically if U.S auto sales stayed flat but EVs reached 50% of the market in 2030 they would sell 7,477,403 vehicles. If TSLA&#39;s dominance in the EV sector was to drop from 61.89% to 15% due to increased competition, they would generate 1,121,610 in sales compared to 301,998 in 2021. When you add in Europe and China, TSLA certainly has the ability to become a top auto manufacturer by sales next decade.</p><p>Bulls aren&#39;t incorrect to be excited about TSLA. The world is moving toward EVs, and TSLA is the crème de la crème. As I said in the beginning, I am bullish about TSLA&#39;s future prospects, but I think the valuation today is overinflated. Nobody can predict the future, but I have no doubt that TSLA will continue to grow its sales YoY.</p><p>The question becomes, how much growth will they be able to achieve YoY? In 2021, TM generated $226.48 billion of revenue and, based on the future of EVs, TSLA certainly could achieve this level of revenue in the future. Based on TSLA&#39;s current 13.51% profit margin, if they achieved TM&#39;s level of revenue, they would generate $30.59 billion of net income, which would definitely make today&#39;s valuation look more realistic.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/93c9176fa9bebc2c940e038cafd23229\" tg-width=\"603\" tg-height=\"631\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Tesla</p><p><b>Conclusion</b></p><p>You&#39;re probably wondering how I can be a shareholder and be a bear on TSLA&#39;s valuation at the same time. It&#39;s simple; my wife bought shares of TSLA, which makes me a shareholder. My stance has always been bullish on the company and bearish on the valuation. What Elon Musk and the team at TSLA has accomplished is astonishing, and they deserve nothing but respect.</p><p>Keep in mind a company and a company&#39;s stock are two separate things. TSLA continues to dilute shareholders, and they and the market are valuing TSLA as if it&#39;s FB or GOOGL. TSLA is not a technology company; it&#39;s an automobile company, as the automotive segments drive 100% of its gross revenue and net income.</p><p>TSLA is trading at a P/E of 113.81, a P/S of 15.38, and a 142.52x multiple on its FCF. The numbers are drastically inflated as TSLA has no business trading at a larger P/S multiple than AMZN, which trades at 11.31 P/S when it has grown its revenue by $341.76 billion over the previous 3.25 years compared to TSLA&#39;s $40.73 billion of revenue growth. TSLA has generated $6.93 billion in FCF over the TTM, while Mr. Market has placed a 142.52x multiple on TSLA due to $7.15 billion FCF growth over the past 3.25 years. FB trades at a 15.19x FCF multiple while growing FCF by $23.45 billion over this period which is more than 3x what TSLA has generated in the TTM.</p><p>With FB trading at 15.19x FCF, GOOGL at 23.42x FCF, and AAPL at 25.4x FCF, it&#39;s hard to justify any number above 20x for TSLA. I think a 21x FCF multiple is generous and that places TSLA at a market cap of $145.43 billion, which is -85.26% from its current market cap of $986.92 billion.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla: Overvalued By 85.26% And Not A Technology Company</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla: Overvalued By 85.26% And Not A Technology Company\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-05-08 11:30 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4507535-tesla-overvalued-by-85-26-percent-and-not-a-technology-company><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryMake no mistake, Tesla is a phenomenal company that has accomplished the unthinkable as it broke through extreme barriers of entry to disrupt the auto industry.Just because Tesla is a ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4507535-tesla-overvalued-by-85-26-percent-and-not-a-technology-company\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4507535-tesla-overvalued-by-85-26-percent-and-not-a-technology-company","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1131831539","content_text":"SummaryMake no mistake, Tesla is a phenomenal company that has accomplished the unthinkable as it broke through extreme barriers of entry to disrupt the auto industry.Just because Tesla is a successful company that is causing automotive titans to change from combustible engines to EVs doesn't mean Tesla's stock is a good investment today.100% of gross profit and net income is generated from the automotive sector as Tesla's other businesses lose money, making them an automobile manufacturing company, not a technology company.I compared Tesla's metrics to the auto industry and big tech and the results are the same, Tesla's valuation is egregious.It's rare to find companies that have cult-like followings with loyalists willing to pay any price for its stock. The debate regarding Tesla, Inc.'s (NASDAQ:TSLA) valuation continues to be a topic of conversation between the bulls and the bears. Oneside argues that TSLA's financial growth and future prospects, including FSD, insurance, and robotaxis, justify the current $902.12 billion valuations, while others argue that the current financials and cult-like following have led to a massive overvaluation in TSLA's stock.I tip my hat to Elon Musk, as his accomplishments are second to none. When others called him crazy, Mr. Musk chose one of the hardest industries to compete in, started TSLA from the ground up, went to battle against the auto manufacturers, and succeeded. TSLA is one of the rare success stories that has truly shaped an industry, and the barriers of entry that were overcome are astonishing. TSLA didn't have the capital, manufacturing, credibility, or the infrastructure that its competitors did, yet they found a way to succeed. If the odds weren't enough which TSLA faced, they accomplished their goals without a combustible engine and pioneered an entirely new sector within the automotive industry.Just because TSLA is a great company, it doesn't mean TSLA has a great stock, or it isn't overvalued. I am not bearish on TSLA the company because I believe they still have a long runway of growth ahead of them, but I am bearish on the valuation. Prior to leaving a comment on why I am wrong, please read the article and think about the metrics I am citing; then, I will happily discuss any viewpoints about the analysis.Tesla Vs. The World In The Automotive SectorIt feels like TSLA vs. the world whenever TSLA is discussed. Discussing who makes a better automobile is a matter of opinion, and everyone is correct because it's their opinion. If person A thinks TSLA makes the best car and person B thinks Mercedes Benz makes the best car, they are both correct. Debating over this is pointless, so let's look at the raw numbers.TSLA has a larger market cap than the combination ofToyota(TM),Volkswagen(OTCPK:VWAGY),Daimler(OTCPK:DDAIF),BMW(OTCPK:BMWYY),General Motors(GM),Ford(F),Honda(HMC),Ferrari(RACE),Nissan(OTCPK:NSANY),Subaru(OTCPK:FUJHY),Volvo(OTCPK:VOLAF), andMazda(OTCPK:MZDAY). TSLA's market cap is currently $986.92 billion, while the combination of these 12 companies is $777.41 billion.Steven FiorilloThe P/S ratio is often cited to justify the valuation. The combination of TM, VWAGY, DDAIF, BMWYY, GM, F, HMC, RACE, NSANY, FUJHY, VOLAF, and MZDAY has generated $1.38 trillion in revenue over the TTM, putting their P/S at 0.56, while TSLA has generated $62.19 billion in revenue and has a 15.87 P/S.Steven Fiorillo, Seeking AlphaAs a combined entity, these 12 companies have generated $118.29 billion in net income, while TSLA has produced $8.4 billion.Steven Fiorillo, Seeking AlphaTSLA is a great company, but its current valuation has become overly inflated. TSLA's market cap is $209.52 billion larger than these 12 auto manufacturers, yet the combination of the 12 auto manufacturers generates $1.32 trillion more in revenue and $109.89 billion more in net income.Steven Fiorillo, Seeking AlphaLooking at the market caps, one would assume that TSLA has a dominant majority over its competitors in auto sales within the U.S. According to the2021 data, TSLA sold 2.02% of all vehicles in the U.S. TSLA's market cap reflects a level of dominance that is non-existent.Realistically, TSLA will have a hard time disrupting the sector further due to the price point of their vehicles. The reality is that, unless TSLA can sell a car that rivals a Honda or Toyota, doubling its market share is going to be a daunting task. It's just math. TSLA doesn't have a product for the masses, and while it may continue to grow in the luxury segment, the amount of growth that can be achieved is limited due to the pricing power of the consumer.www.goodcarbadcar.netTesla Isn't A Technology Company And Shouldn't Be Valued As OneThe valuation rebuttal has always been that TSLA isn't an automobile company, rather, it's a technology company.TeslaPage 23 ofTSLA's Q1 2022 slide deck from their earnings call is their statement of operations. Once again, 100% of TSLA's gross profit and net income are derived from automobiles. Energy generation and storage lose money as it generates $616 million in revenue while the cost of this revenue is $688 million. The same goes for Services and others, as this segment generates $1.279 billion in revenue while the cost of this revenue is $1.286 billion. This doesn't even factor in operating expenses.TSLA manufacturers state of the art automobiles, but this doesn't classify them as a technology company, nor should they be classified as one. Since this is always the rebuttal and technology companies trade at larger earnings multiples, I will compare TSLA to Apple (AAPL), Microsoft (MSFT), Amazon (AMZN), Alphabet (GOOG) (GOOGL), and Meta Platforms (FB) and illustrate why TSLA is still drastically overvalued if the market was still to provide it with a tech multiple.Prior to the comparisons, I want to frame the analysis by providing each company's market cap:AAPL $2.69 TrillionMSFT $2.17 TrillionGOOGL $1.62 TrillionAMZN $1.28 TrillionTSLA $986.92 BillionFB $604.62 BillionI am going to start with growth because this is always the key metric bulls point out. Since the close of 2018, which is 3.25 fiscal years, TSLA has grown its revenue from $21.46 billion to $62.19 billion.This is absolutely remarkable, but it doesn't place TSLA in the upper epsilon of technology companies. Over the same period, FB grew its revenue by $63.83 billion, which is more than what TSLA produced in the TTM. FB grew its revenue by more than what TSLA produces and generates just about double the revenue ($119.67 billion), yet TSLA has a larger market cap. For everyone who has used growth as their investment premise, FB having a market cap that's $382.30 less than TSLA nullifies that aspect of the bull thesis. AMZN's market cap is only $294.33 billion larger than TSLA, yet they generated $477.75 billion in revenue and grew their revenue by $341.76 billion in this period. Using revenue growth for TSLA doesn't support the valuation.Steven Fiorillo, Seeking AlphaNext, I will turn to profits because, at the end of the day, businesses are in the business of making money. Once again, TSLA has done a fantastic job of monetizing its business and, in 3.25 short years, has gone from losing -$976 million to make $8.4 billion in the TTM for an increase of $9.38 billion. FB has produced $37.34 billion in profit in the TTM, and its net income grew by $15.23 billion over this period. Using growth doesn't support the valuation when FB has a market cap that's $382.30 less than TSLA and grew its profits in this period by almost double what TSLA has generated in the TTM.Steven Fiorillo, Seeking AlphaThe new metric bulls are using in their thesis is TSLA's free cash flow (FCF). Once again, TSLA has done an excellent job, going from -$221 million of FCF in 2018 to $6.93 billion of FCF in the TTM. Many companies would love to grow their annual FCF by $7.15 billion over a 3.25-year period, and this should be applauded.Let's look at FB once again, since TSLA's valuation isn't based on its core segment as an automobile manufacturer. FB has grown its FCF over the previous 3.25 years by $23.45 billion, more than 3x TSLA's growth, and has generated $39.81 billion of FCF in the TTM. FB generated roughly 5.75x more FCF than TSLA and grew its FCF by more than 3x what TSLA produces, yet FB has a market cap that's almost $400 billion less than TSLA. Growth within the financials does not support TSLA's valuation, which is a breath away from $1 trillion.Steven Fiorillo, Seeking AlphaToday you're paying a 113.81 P/E for TSLA. Paying a larger multiple for a company that's growing its earnings quickly is normal, but TSLA isn't growing by larger amounts than FB, and FB trades at a 16.66 P/E. I have seen TSLA bulls justify the P/E because of TSLA's growth factor, but this doesn't hold up when FB has grown by larger amounts from larger starting positions and has a P/E that's a fraction of TSLA. Look at AAPL, which is the largest company in the world. AAPL has grown its net income by $56.25 billion and its FCF by $52.3 billion over the past 3.25 years, and its P/E is 26.78. People are blindly paying any multiple the market places on TSLA.TSLA is trading at a 15.38 P/S. The justification for this multiple is difficult to defend while AMZN trades at a P/S of 11.31. AMZN's revenue grew by $341.76 billion over the past 3.25 years while TSLA grew their revenue by $40.73 billion. Instead of an absolute basis, looking at this from a percentage aspect, TSLA grew its revenue by 189.78%, while AMZN's grew by 251.32%. The P/S ratio is not a supporting valuation metric as TSLA is trading at a larger multiple than AMZN yet produced $301.03 billion less in revenue growth compared to AMZN. At the very least, TSLA should trade at a lower P/S multiple than AMZN considering their revenue growth was a fraction of AMZN's.TSLA has done an excellent job monetizing its revenue, delivering exceptional margins, and generating FCF. Now that TSLA is generating billions in FCF, it's been inserted into the bull thesis. FCF is a measure of profitability that excludes the non-cash expenses of the income statement and includes spending on equipment and assets as well as changes in working capital from the balance sheet. FCF could be the most underrated and most important financial metric to look at, as this is the pool of capital that companies can utilize to repay debt, pay dividends, buy back shares, make acquisitions, or reinvest in the business.Every investment is the present value of all future cash flow. This is why investors look at the price to FCF valuation. Investors want to pay the cheapest multiple for a company's FCF. Today, you're paying 142.52x TSLA's FCF. Going back to the FCF section, TSLA grew its FCF by $7.15 billion over the past 3.25 years. FB generated $23.45 billion of FCF in this period, which is 3x the amount TSLA grew, yet FB is trading at a 15.19x multiple on price to FCF.Why on earth would you want to pay 142.52x for TSLA's FCF when you could pay 15.19x for FB, which is growing their FCF by more than 3x the amount that TSLA is growing by? How about AAPL? AAPL grew its FCF by $52.3 billion and trades at a 25.4x price to FCF. If I exclude FB for a moment, should TSLA trade at a larger FCF multiple than GOOGL, which has grown its FCF by $46.15 billion over the past 3.25 years? My answer is no because there is no guarantee that TSLA will ever generate $46.15 billion in annual FCF, let alone the $68.99 billion in FCF that GOOGL generates.So what is a fair price to FCF multiple for TSLA? I don't believe TSLA has earned the right to trade at the same multiples as the rest of big tech considering the levels of FCF they produce. If I stick with the methodology that FB is egregiously undervalued, then TSLA should trade above 15.19x its FCF but lower than the 23.42x multiple GOOGL trades at.I don't want to be overly bearish, so I will place a 21x multiple on TSLA's FCF, which is more than fair considering big tech metrics. A 21x multiple on TSLA's FCF puts its market cap at $145.43 billion, which is -85.26% from its current market cap of $986.92 billion. It's just math, and if TSLA is going to be valued as a technology company, it needs to be compared to the technology companies with similar market caps.At the very least, there isn't a single reason why TSLA's market cap is larger than FB's. There isn't a single metric that TSLA beats FB in. Based on FB's valuation, if TSLA traded at the same FCF multiple, it would have a market cap of $105.19 billion.TSLA has a gross profit margin of 27.1% ($16.85b / $62.19b) and a profit margin of 13.51% ($8.4b / $62.19b). FB has a gross profit margin of 80.34% ($96.14b / $119.67b) and a profit margin of 31.2% ($37.34b / $119.67b). FB has much wider margins and is growing its revenue by larger amounts. This reinforces my methodology as to why TSLA is grossly overvalued. GOOGL has a gross profit margin of 56.93% ($153.9b / $270.33b) and a profit margin of 27.57% ($74.54b / $270.33b).The chances are incredibly slim that TSLA can double its profit margin to be within striking distance of GOOGL's. TSLA should not trade at a larger FCF, P/E, or P/S multiple than FB or GOOGL. While the market would indicate that I am wrong today, eventually, the hype will wear off, and TSLA will trade at a realistic valuation.TSLA's Future Catalysts Have A Long Way To Go Before Impacting Its Bottom LineThere are three main catalysts people discuss, which include insurance, robotaxis, and FSD.TSLA offers insurance using real-time driving behavior. This is currently available to all Model S, Model 3, Model X, and Model Y owners. The catch is that it's only available in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Ohio, Oregon, Texas, and Virginia as of now.TSLA uses a safety rating score to determine the monthly premium for its vehicles. At the largest premium of $130/mo, this would be $1,560 per year. If TSLA converted 100% of their U.S sales in 2021 as an insurance customer, which I think could be possible if TSLA insurance was available in every state, it would have generated $471.12 million in revenue.We have no idea what the margins would have been, but if the margin was 50%, it would have been an additional $235.56 million in net income in 2021. While this is nothing to sneeze at, an additional $235.56 million in net income hardly moves the needle. This could be a $1 billion top-line revenue segment in the future, but with availability in only 7 states, insurance's $1 billion revenue mark is a long way away.TeslaNext,FSD, for which TSLA has created two subscription models, a $99/mo price point and a $199/mo price point. The problem with FSD is that it doesn't make the vehicle fully autonomous, and you still need a driver to be attentive and alert. While I am not arguing that TSLA's FSD isn't leaps and bounds ahead of the competition, the problem is that it's not exactly a self-driving car.The questions around legality and where you can use it pop into my head, and how many of TSLA's drivers opt for this upgrade. Until there is clear legislation and the technology advances to where vehicles can fully drive a person from point A to B while that person takes a nap or reads, I have a hard time believing enough TSLA owners will spend the extra $199/mo on FSD. If there is somewhere where TSLA produces the numbers about how many owners opt for this package, please let me know, and I will crunch the numbers.Which Features Come With My Subscription?The FSD capability features you receive are based on your configuration and location. Not all features are available in all markets, and features are subject to change.Learn more about Autopilot and Full Self-Driving capability features.Note: These features are designed to become more capable over time; however the currently enabled features do not make the vehicle autonomous. The currently enabled features require a fully attentive driver, who has their hands on the wheel and is prepared to take over at any moment.The last catalyst is Robotaxis which many have commented on in my articles before. We're so far off on Robotaxis that this can't be considered in TSLA's upcoming revenue. I would think major legislation would be needed for Robotaxis to exist, and there is no telling how many years away we are from this.Also, what is the percentage of TSLA owners that would actually allow their vehicle to be used as a Robotaxi? Depending on what the profitability is, I can see people buying TSLAs to enroll them in this program, but, once again, we need to see the economics behind it. I know I am just one opinion, but I would never enroll one of my cars into a robotaxi program because I don't want other people that I don't know in my car. I would think there are many others that have similar viewpoints.The real upcoming catalysts are future revenue growth and entering the Chinese market. In 2021 TSLA grew its YoY revenue by 70.67%, and their off to a great start after Q1 2022. Only time will tell what type of growth rate TSLA can maintain, but too many people are assuming that TSLA will obliterate the competition. Over the next several years, we could see TSLA's growth rate become significantly reduced as more luxury operators put EVs on the road.At TSLA's current margins, they would need to increase their revenue by 444.55% to $276.47 billion to produce the same amount of net income ($37.34b) that FB produces today at their current 13.51% profit margin. Maybe TSLA can get there in the future, but why should TSLA be valued at almost $1 trillion today, considering not a single metric of theirs is similar to FB or GOOGL, and TSLA's growth across any of the sectors isn't larger than FB or GOOGL?Tesla Continues To Dilute Shareholders, And Almost No Shareholders CareDilution kills shareholder value. Look, I am a shareholder of TSLA, and I hate that my shares continue to be diluted. These numbers are split-adjusted that I am using. Over the past decade,TSLA has diluted its shares by 80.93%. This is horrible compared to big tech, yet investors can't buy enough TSLA shares. TSLA finished 2012 with 572.6 million shares and, as of its last filing, had increased its outstanding shares to 1.036 billion shares.This is the equivalent of me taking a pizza, and instead of giving you a slice, cutting another 6.5 slices, then giving you one. The pizza represents TSLA, the company, and they basically turned an 8-slice pie into a 14.5-slice pie, reducing shareholder's ownership and the amount of equity, revenue, and EPS our shares represent.If you want to see what a true shepherd of shareholder value looks like, turn to AAPL. In 2012 AAPL had 26.3 billion shares outstanding. Over the past decade, AAPL has repurchased 10.09 billion shares, reducing its outstanding shares by 38.37%. Every quarter, AAPL is buying back shares and increasing the ownership its shares represent. TSLA, on the other hand, continues to dilute shareholders by increasing shares YOY.I Could Be Completely Wrong, And Tesla Could Continue Growing At These RatesTSLA's vehicle deliveries continue to outpace its growing production. YoY TSLA's deliveries increased by 68% in Q1, adding 125,171 delivered vehicles to its customers. TSLA just began Model Y deliveries from the Austin facility, and production at the Gigafactory in Berlin started in March of 2022. TSLA's Shanghai facility had strong production rates prior to the spike in COVID that resulted in temporary shutdowns. TSLA isn't just focusing on the U.S, they have Europe and China in their sights.EVs accounted for 488,000 sales in the U.S for 2021, and the previous projection was that EVs would account for 670,000 units sold in 2022. Oil has hovered around $100 per barrel and could render the previous projections of 37% increased EV sales domestically for 2022 conservative. TSLA is in a prime position to capitalize on this trend. In 2021 TSLA vehicles accounted for 61.89% of EVs sold in the U.S (301,998 / 488,000).Hypothetically, if the previous projection of 670,000 EV sales for 2022 is accurate and TSLA maintains its current margin, they would sell 414,628 vehicles throughout the U.S in 2022. If gas prices do alter the decision-making process when deciding between a combustible engine or an EV, then TSLA could continue surprising the market with QoQ earnings beats.The U.S has a national goal of reaching 50% of domestic auto sales coming from EVs. In 2021, EVs accounted for 3.26% of total sales in the U.S auto market. Based on U.S auto sales in 2021, annual EV sales would need to grow by 6,989,403 to reach a 50% EV to combustible engine ratio. Hypothetically if U.S auto sales stayed flat but EVs reached 50% of the market in 2030 they would sell 7,477,403 vehicles. If TSLA's dominance in the EV sector was to drop from 61.89% to 15% due to increased competition, they would generate 1,121,610 in sales compared to 301,998 in 2021. When you add in Europe and China, TSLA certainly has the ability to become a top auto manufacturer by sales next decade.Bulls aren't incorrect to be excited about TSLA. The world is moving toward EVs, and TSLA is the crème de la crème. As I said in the beginning, I am bullish about TSLA's future prospects, but I think the valuation today is overinflated. Nobody can predict the future, but I have no doubt that TSLA will continue to grow its sales YoY.The question becomes, how much growth will they be able to achieve YoY? In 2021, TM generated $226.48 billion of revenue and, based on the future of EVs, TSLA certainly could achieve this level of revenue in the future. Based on TSLA's current 13.51% profit margin, if they achieved TM's level of revenue, they would generate $30.59 billion of net income, which would definitely make today's valuation look more realistic.TeslaConclusionYou're probably wondering how I can be a shareholder and be a bear on TSLA's valuation at the same time. It's simple; my wife bought shares of TSLA, which makes me a shareholder. My stance has always been bullish on the company and bearish on the valuation. What Elon Musk and the team at TSLA has accomplished is astonishing, and they deserve nothing but respect.Keep in mind a company and a company's stock are two separate things. TSLA continues to dilute shareholders, and they and the market are valuing TSLA as if it's FB or GOOGL. TSLA is not a technology company; it's an automobile company, as the automotive segments drive 100% of its gross revenue and net income.TSLA is trading at a P/E of 113.81, a P/S of 15.38, and a 142.52x multiple on its FCF. The numbers are drastically inflated as TSLA has no business trading at a larger P/S multiple than AMZN, which trades at 11.31 P/S when it has grown its revenue by $341.76 billion over the previous 3.25 years compared to TSLA's $40.73 billion of revenue growth. TSLA has generated $6.93 billion in FCF over the TTM, while Mr. Market has placed a 142.52x multiple on TSLA due to $7.15 billion FCF growth over the past 3.25 years. FB trades at a 15.19x FCF multiple while growing FCF by $23.45 billion over this period which is more than 3x what TSLA has generated in the TTM.With FB trading at 15.19x FCF, GOOGL at 23.42x FCF, and AAPL at 25.4x FCF, it's hard to justify any number above 20x for TSLA. I think a 21x FCF multiple is generous and that places TSLA at a market cap of $145.43 billion, which is -85.26% from its current market cap of $986.92 billion.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":94,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9087843242,"gmtCreate":1650991401264,"gmtModify":1676534829321,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$</a>Whenever the stock nose dives, I can't help but be angry with Elon Musk for doing non-Tesla related things that gives main stream media ammunition&nbsp;to speculate and drive down prices. Think&nbsp;Bitcoin, Twitter.However to me, he is a genius and visionary. 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I rationalise that if you are a follower, you have accept that he would be controversial and the stock would be volatile.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":21,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9087843242","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3551,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":860044712,"gmtCreate":1632112080436,"gmtModify":1676530703619,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"BYD and VW group&nbsp;","listText":"BYD and VW group&nbsp;","text":"BYD and VW group","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":7,"commentSize":4,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/860044712","repostId":"1165266849","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1165266849","pubTimestamp":1632095568,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1165266849?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-09-20 07:52","market":"us","language":"en","title":"If there were a ‘Big Three’ of electric vehicle makers, who would join Tesla?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1165266849","media":"MarketWatch","summary":"Delays at young electric-vehicle companies suggest that large auto makers are best placed to challen","content":"<p>Delays at young electric-vehicle companies suggest that large auto makers are best placed to challenge Tesla in the future, but the smart money is chasing less glamorous names </p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bf4fe95f357a1ce8ef9aeefc9e1e62d0\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"487\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>MarketWatch photo illustration/Tesla, iStockphoto</span></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p>When Henry Ford was reorganizing his Detroit Automobile Company into what would become the juggernaut of U.S. auto manufacturing, hundreds of other young auto makers were also starting up.</p>\n<p>One of them, the National Motor Vehicle Car Manufacturing Co, started out in Indianapolis, which boasted six automakers in 1906. National Motor even competed in and won the 1912 Indy 500. Sales boomed and it expanded production, but after a merger with Associated Motor Industries in 1922, the company ended up in receivership in 1924. Like hundreds of other early car companies, none of those six Indianapolis players survived.</p>\n<p>Investors eyeing the electric vehicle space today may have a sense of déjà vu. The huge number of companies, large and small, currently working on electric vehicles or their components is reminiscent of the turn of the 20th century, when companies like National and others experimented with body forms and engine types, from steam-powered to internal combustion to early versions of electric vehicles.</p>\n<p>By the 1929 stock market crash, there were only about 40 auto makers left, and that number eventually shrunk to where the top companies in the U.S. are referred to as the “Big Three.” Similar shakeouts occurred globally, with Big Threes emerging in other countries, like Japan and Germany.</p>\n<p>One major difference between then and now, said Brett Smith, director of technology research at the Center for Automotive Research, or CAR, is that 100 years ago, “everybody was starting from scratch—no one had an advantage,” while today, traditional auto makers already know how to build cars and create huge assembly lines.、</p>\n<p></p>\n<blockquote>\n ‘Over the next 5 years, there is going to be some remarkable growth for some of these companies. But there will be some that don’t grow and struggle. There is more to be optimistic about with these companies than there was five years ago, because the tech is getting closer to broader adoption. The problem is that the traditional car companies have been getting into it too now and competition is tougher.’”\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n — Brett Smith, director, technology research, Center for Automotive Research \n</blockquote>\n<p></p>\n<p>The question for investors then is which companies will become the big 3 of EVs?</p>\n<p>The company with the biggest advantage in electric vehicles today is Tesla Inc.&nbsp;which has finally proved to the world that EVs are the future. As rival startups and legacy automakers seek to emulate its success, investors must ponder which EV companies will succeed and which will disappear.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Globally, there are hundreds of startups working on some aspect of electric vehicles, from creating the car, to charging station infrastructure, improving the manufacturing process, developing new battery technologies and working on fuel cells. CB Insights of New York said it is tracking more than 700 startups around the world that are active in the space.</p>\n<p>“There seems to be a new one every day,” said Smith of CAR.</p>\n<p>Since February, the shares of many better known startups have lost much of their value because of serious issues, including regulatory inquiries or investigations, class action lawsuits, management tumult and abrupt executive departures. Piling onto these woes — which mainly stem from overpromising and under-delivering — is a semiconductor shortage hampering efforts to get first products out the door.</p>\n<p>Several publicly traded EV makers are still technically startup companies, with no revenue or much operational history. But because of the SPAC boom, and the de-SPAC process, they are now publicly traded companies, leaving investors making bets like venture capitalists on the next Tesla.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“What they are doing is very hard,” said Smith. “Over the next 5 years, there is going to be some remarkable growth for some of these companies. But there will be some that don’t grow and struggle. There is more to be optimistic about with these companies than there was five years ago, because the tech is getting closer to broader adoption. The problem is that the traditional car companies have been getting into it too now and competition is tougher.”</p>\n<p>As a result of some of those issues, no revenue is expected for the rest of the year at Nikola Corp.,Lordstown Motors Corp.&nbsp;and Fisker Inc., &nbsp;with all three companies predicting their first vehicles sometime in 2022, if their current forecasts can be believed.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“I&nbsp;know&nbsp;it&nbsp;sounds&nbsp;like&nbsp;a&nbsp;broken&nbsp;record and it’s boring, but I think in this case, the broken record is quite good to keep on saying that we are on time on the Ocean program and we are on budget,” Fisker co-founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Henrik Fisker told analysts in the company’s earnings call last month.</p>\n<p>Fisker said the company will start production on Nov. 17, 2022, which actually looks good compared with other startups. Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas said in a note that he believes&nbsp;Fisker “may be one of the only EV startups to actually launch on time and ramp efficaciously in late 2022.”</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>These companies, plus Faraday Future Electric Inc.,Canoo Inc.,Lucid Group&nbsp;and the soon to go public Rivian, are among the top funded EV makers in the U.S. But while many have received billions from investors through private funding rounds or SPAC deals&nbsp;–&nbsp;electric truck-maker Rivian has raised $10.5 billion — some are now encountering credibility problems.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>For example, Lordstown — an electric truck-maker which took over a former GM factory in an area of Ohio referred to as Voltage Valley — disclosed in July that its merger deal was being investigated by the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Justice Department, for a variety of matters, including information provided to investors about its pre-orders. Lordstown added a “going concern” warning to regulatory filings and clarified that the orders it had were not binding.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“To do what Tesla did, build a car company from the ground up and all the way through to distribution, that took a phenomenal amount of money,” Smith said. Tesla is now almost 18 years old. After raising $226 million in its 2010 IPO, it has gone back to the capital markets frequently, raising more than $20 billion through secondary stock sales and debt offerings.</p>\n<p>Workhorse Group Inc.,which makes electric “last mile” delivery vans and utility vehicles, also was reported to be the target of an SEC investigation, and Trevor Milton, the founder of Nikola Corp.&nbsp;has been charged with securities fraud in federal court in the Southern District of New York, allegedly for overinflating the developments at the electric truck maker. Milton has stated that he is innocent.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Since EV makers need the same hefty capital investment as other auto makers, investors might be more inclined to favor the established companies making a foray into electrification. Nearly every major auto maker around the globe has some sort of effort today to develop electric vehicles, but in the U.S., Ford Motor appears to be the furthest along, with plans to offer dozens of electrified vehicles, including a truck, sometime in 2022.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>If investors are looking to bet on one of Tesla’s upcoming rivals, the best course may be to pick one of the companies that is actually close to launching a car, like Fisker or Lucid, and then diversify bets on some traditional auto makers. Another option is to look for suppliers, instead of the much more capital-intensive car makers.</p>\n<p>Assad Hussain, mobility analyst at PitchBook, which tracks all aspects of the public and private equity markets, said professional investors are looking beyond the companies making cars to those that are supplying the automakers.</p>\n<p>“A lot of the smart VC money is going into the picks and shovels, not necessarily trying to trying to find the next Tesla,” Hussain said, making an analogy with the pioneers who got rich during the California gold rush of 1849 by providing the supplies, instead of joining the hordes panning for gold in the Sierra foothills.</p>\n<p>One example is a company called Redwood Materials, which is working on recycling lithium ion batteries in both devices and EVs. Redwood was co-founded by JB Straubel, a Tesla co-founder and its CTO for 15 years. Redwood recently raised $700 million from a group of investors, including T. Rowe Price, Amazon.com Inc.&nbsp;and others.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Recurrent, based in Seattle, was founded just last year and is offering third-party reports on used EV batteries, to help car buyers determine the life of the vehicle. It raised $3.5 million in seed funding&nbsp;late last year.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“Maybe the smart thing to do is not look for the next Tesla, but to go out and find an enabling technology,” said Hussain.</p>\n<p>The past century shows that periods of innovation in automobiles eventually settled into a triumvirate of dominant companies.</p>\n<p>Whether that will happen again is anyone’s guess, but the strategies here should help find the safer bets, such as the companies the farthest along, the established auto makers, or look to the most interesting suppliers of this hot arena.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>","source":"lsy1603348471595","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>If there were a ‘Big Three’ of electric vehicle makers, who would join Tesla?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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National Motor even competed in and won the 1912 Indy 500. Sales boomed and it expanded production, but after a merger with Associated Motor Industries in 1922, the company ended up in receivership in 1924. Like hundreds of other early car companies, none of those six Indianapolis players survived.\nInvestors eyeing the electric vehicle space today may have a sense of déjà vu. The huge number of companies, large and small, currently working on electric vehicles or their components is reminiscent of the turn of the 20th century, when companies like National and others experimented with body forms and engine types, from steam-powered to internal combustion to early versions of electric vehicles.\nBy the 1929 stock market crash, there were only about 40 auto makers left, and that number eventually shrunk to where the top companies in the U.S. are referred to as the “Big Three.” Similar shakeouts occurred globally, with Big Threes emerging in other countries, like Japan and Germany.\nOne major difference between then and now, said Brett Smith, director of technology research at the Center for Automotive Research, or CAR, is that 100 years ago, “everybody was starting from scratch—no one had an advantage,” while today, traditional auto makers already know how to build cars and create huge assembly lines.、\n\n\n ‘Over the next 5 years, there is going to be some remarkable growth for some of these companies. But there will be some that don’t grow and struggle. There is more to be optimistic about with these companies than there was five years ago, because the tech is getting closer to broader adoption. The problem is that the traditional car companies have been getting into it too now and competition is tougher.’”\n\n\n — Brett Smith, director, technology research, Center for Automotive Research \n\n\nThe question for investors then is which companies will become the big 3 of EVs?\nThe company with the biggest advantage in electric vehicles today is Tesla Inc. which has finally proved to the world that EVs are the future. As rival startups and legacy automakers seek to emulate its success, investors must ponder which EV companies will succeed and which will disappear.\n\nGlobally, there are hundreds of startups working on some aspect of electric vehicles, from creating the car, to charging station infrastructure, improving the manufacturing process, developing new battery technologies and working on fuel cells. CB Insights of New York said it is tracking more than 700 startups around the world that are active in the space.\n“There seems to be a new one every day,” said Smith of CAR.\nSince February, the shares of many better known startups have lost much of their value because of serious issues, including regulatory inquiries or investigations, class action lawsuits, management tumult and abrupt executive departures. Piling onto these woes — which mainly stem from overpromising and under-delivering — is a semiconductor shortage hampering efforts to get first products out the door.\nSeveral publicly traded EV makers are still technically startup companies, with no revenue or much operational history. But because of the SPAC boom, and the de-SPAC process, they are now publicly traded companies, leaving investors making bets like venture capitalists on the next Tesla.\n\n\n\n“What they are doing is very hard,” said Smith. “Over the next 5 years, there is going to be some remarkable growth for some of these companies. But there will be some that don’t grow and struggle. There is more to be optimistic about with these companies than there was five years ago, because the tech is getting closer to broader adoption. The problem is that the traditional car companies have been getting into it too now and competition is tougher.”\nAs a result of some of those issues, no revenue is expected for the rest of the year at Nikola Corp.,Lordstown Motors Corp. and Fisker Inc.,  with all three companies predicting their first vehicles sometime in 2022, if their current forecasts can be believed.\n\n“I know it sounds like a broken record and it’s boring, but I think in this case, the broken record is quite good to keep on saying that we are on time on the Ocean program and we are on budget,” Fisker co-founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Henrik Fisker told analysts in the company’s earnings call last month.\nFisker said the company will start production on Nov. 17, 2022, which actually looks good compared with other startups. Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas said in a note that he believes Fisker “may be one of the only EV startups to actually launch on time and ramp efficaciously in late 2022.”\n\nThese companies, plus Faraday Future Electric Inc.,Canoo Inc.,Lucid Group and the soon to go public Rivian, are among the top funded EV makers in the U.S. But while many have received billions from investors through private funding rounds or SPAC deals – electric truck-maker Rivian has raised $10.5 billion — some are now encountering credibility problems.\n\nFor example, Lordstown — an electric truck-maker which took over a former GM factory in an area of Ohio referred to as Voltage Valley — disclosed in July that its merger deal was being investigated by the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Justice Department, for a variety of matters, including information provided to investors about its pre-orders. Lordstown added a “going concern” warning to regulatory filings and clarified that the orders it had were not binding.\n\n“To do what Tesla did, build a car company from the ground up and all the way through to distribution, that took a phenomenal amount of money,” Smith said. Tesla is now almost 18 years old. After raising $226 million in its 2010 IPO, it has gone back to the capital markets frequently, raising more than $20 billion through secondary stock sales and debt offerings.\nWorkhorse Group Inc.,which makes electric “last mile” delivery vans and utility vehicles, also was reported to be the target of an SEC investigation, and Trevor Milton, the founder of Nikola Corp. has been charged with securities fraud in federal court in the Southern District of New York, allegedly for overinflating the developments at the electric truck maker. Milton has stated that he is innocent.\n\nSince EV makers need the same hefty capital investment as other auto makers, investors might be more inclined to favor the established companies making a foray into electrification. Nearly every major auto maker around the globe has some sort of effort today to develop electric vehicles, but in the U.S., Ford Motor appears to be the furthest along, with plans to offer dozens of electrified vehicles, including a truck, sometime in 2022.\n\nIf investors are looking to bet on one of Tesla’s upcoming rivals, the best course may be to pick one of the companies that is actually close to launching a car, like Fisker or Lucid, and then diversify bets on some traditional auto makers. Another option is to look for suppliers, instead of the much more capital-intensive car makers.\nAssad Hussain, mobility analyst at PitchBook, which tracks all aspects of the public and private equity markets, said professional investors are looking beyond the companies making cars to those that are supplying the automakers.\n“A lot of the smart VC money is going into the picks and shovels, not necessarily trying to trying to find the next Tesla,” Hussain said, making an analogy with the pioneers who got rich during the California gold rush of 1849 by providing the supplies, instead of joining the hordes panning for gold in the Sierra foothills.\nOne example is a company called Redwood Materials, which is working on recycling lithium ion batteries in both devices and EVs. Redwood was co-founded by JB Straubel, a Tesla co-founder and its CTO for 15 years. Redwood recently raised $700 million from a group of investors, including T. Rowe Price, Amazon.com Inc. and others.\n\nRecurrent, based in Seattle, was founded just last year and is offering third-party reports on used EV batteries, to help car buyers determine the life of the vehicle. It raised $3.5 million in seed funding late last year.\n\n“Maybe the smart thing to do is not look for the next Tesla, but to go out and find an enabling technology,” said Hussain.\nThe past century shows that periods of innovation in automobiles eventually settled into a triumvirate of dominant companies.\nWhether that will happen again is anyone’s guess, but the strategies here should help find the safer bets, such as the companies the farthest along, the established auto makers, or look to the most interesting suppliers of this hot arena.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":303,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":899774038,"gmtCreate":1628218030524,"gmtModify":1703503372285,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/S20.SI\">$STRAITS TRADING CO. 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Go go go!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/899774038","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":389,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":172354411,"gmtCreate":1626939857233,"gmtModify":1703480949532,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Strong","listText":"Strong","text":"Strong","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/172354411","repostId":"148628773","repostType":1,"repost":{"id":148628773,"gmtCreate":1625972849792,"gmtModify":1703751455442,"author":{"id":"3561854396999808","authorId":"3561854396999808","name":"股票小霸王888","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/52b61319c48765ff36de67cc508c5941","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Game for week of 12 Jul21:<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/541.SI\">$ABUNDANCE INTERNATIONAL LTD(541.SI)$</a><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AUE.SI\">$GOLDEN ENERGY AND RESOURCESLTD(AUE.SI)$</a>Standby your bullets. These 2 stirring within 2 months????????","listText":"Game for week of 12 Jul21:<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/541.SI\">$ABUNDANCE INTERNATIONAL LTD(541.SI)$</a><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AUE.SI\">$GOLDEN ENERGY AND RESOURCESLTD(AUE.SI)$</a>Standby your bullets. These 2 stirring within 2 months????????","text":"Game for week of 12 Jul21:$ABUNDANCE INTERNATIONAL LTD(541.SI)$$GOLDEN ENERGY AND RESOURCESLTD(AUE.SI)$Standby your bullets. These 2 stirring within 2 months????????","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/148628773","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":0,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":268,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":176009804,"gmtCreate":1626842030708,"gmtModify":1703766244327,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Tesla’s share price increase was post day closing. Due to announcement of Tesla sharing their super charger access to other EV.&nbsp;Poor poor article again.","listText":"Tesla’s share price increase was post day closing. Due to announcement of Tesla sharing their super charger access to other EV.&nbsp;Poor poor article again.","text":"Tesla’s share price increase was post day closing. Due to announcement of Tesla sharing their super charger access to other EV. Poor poor article again.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":8,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/176009804","repostId":"1128230365","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":712,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":152024005,"gmtCreate":1625243571507,"gmtModify":1703739363418,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"The catalyst seems to be FSD. Hopefully soon.","listText":"The catalyst seems to be FSD. Hopefully soon.","text":"The catalyst seems to be FSD. Hopefully soon.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/152024005","repostId":"1150773953","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1150773953","pubTimestamp":1625238037,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1150773953?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-07-02 23:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Reported Record Deliveries. Why That's Not Good Enough.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1150773953","media":"Barrons","summary":"Electric vehicle pioneer Tesla delivered 201,250 cars in the second quarter, above the 200,000 level that would have signaled a major disappointment. They don’t look good enough to lift the stock materially, however.The line in the sand for Tesla  investors was about 200,000 deliveries. More than that should have been good for the stock. Less would have been bad. That means the second-quarter number qualifies as a minor “beat” versus investor expectations.Tesla shares were down 0.3% at $675.68 i","content":"<p>Electric vehicle pioneer Tesla delivered 201,250 cars in the second quarter, above the 200,000 level that would have signaled a major disappointment. They don’t look good enough to lift the stock materially, however.</p>\n<p>The line in the sand for Tesla (ticker: TSLA) investors was about 200,000 deliveries. More than that should have been good for the stock. Less would have been bad. That means the second-quarter number qualifies as a minor “beat” versus investor expectations.</p>\n<p>Tesla shares were down 0.3% at $675.68 in premarket trading.S&amp;P 500&nbsp;and&nbsp;Dow Jones Industrial Average&nbsp;futures were up 0.2%. Shares higher, however in early trading Friday, up about 1.7%. The S&amp;P 500 is 0.3% higher.</p>\n<p>Still, the second-quarter number is another quarterly record. Tesla&nbsp;delivered about 185,000 vehicles&nbsp;in the first quarter of 2021, compared with 181,000 in the fourth quarter of 2020 and about 88,000 vehicles in the first quarter of 2020. Growth is continuing, but with full-year expectations for about 865,000 deliveries for 2021, investors likely expected stronger growth.</p>\n<p>Tesla needs to deliver roughly 475,000 vehicles in the second half to hit Wall Street expectations. Tesla produced more than 206,000 vehicles in the second quarter, up from about 180,000 in the first quarter.</p>\n<p>Tesla doesn’t have formal guidance for full-year 2021 deliveries. Tesla expects to grow faster than 50% in 2021. The company delivered about 500,000 vehicles in 2020.</p>\n<p>The number doesn’t look like a big enough surprise to shake up Tesla stock, which has had an interesting year. Shares are down about 5% in the first quarter of the year, closing at roughly $668 a share. Shares traded above $900 in January. Shares gained about 2% in the second quarter, closing at about $680.</p>\n<p>Coming into Friday, shares are down a little year to date, trailing behind comparable gains of the overall market as well as many other automotive stocks that have benefited from the global economic recovery which is boosting auto sales.</p>\n<p>Many things impacted Tesla stock including&nbsp;rising interest rates—which hurts high growth stocks such as Tesla more than slow growth stocks such as traditional auto makers—and a&nbsp;semiconductor shortage&nbsp;that constrained auto production around the globe. It took a while for investors to adjust to those factors, as well as others, and for Tesla stock to bounce off recent lows.</p>\n<p>Chinese EV makers&nbsp;NIO(NIO) and&nbsp;XPeng(XPEV) also reported&nbsp;strong June deliveries. NIO stock opened higher Thursday and closed down 4.3%. XPeng shares opened higher as well and closed down 1.7%. Both stocks had a strong run in June. Investors appear to have sold on news.</p>\n<p>It looks like they may do the same with Tesla.</p>\n<p>Bullish investors have been&nbsp;waiting for a new catalyst&nbsp;to drive the stock out of its recent range. Second quarter deliveries could have been the catalyst, but they will probably be seen by the Street, and investors, as good and not great.</p>\n<p>Looking ahead, investors have new production coming from Texas and Germany to look forward to. That should happen close to the end of 2021. Tesla is also expected to offer its higher level of driver assistance software, dubbed&nbsp;Full Self Driving, on a subscription basis soon. The uptake of that product will be another thing closely watched by investors.</p>\n<p>Another potential catalyst for investors will be second quarter earnings which should be reported in late July. Wall Street projects about 95 cents in per share earnings from $11.3 billion in sales. Tesla earned 93 cents a share in the first quarter of 2021. Based on deliveries numbers look achievable, but factors such as regulatory credit sales always can impact Tesla’s bottom line number.</p>\n<p>Tesla earns and sells&nbsp;regulatory credits&nbsp;around the globe by making more than its fair share of zero emission vehicles.</p>\n<p></p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Reported Record Deliveries. 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Why That's Not Good Enough.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-07-02 23:00 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-deliveries-stock-51625230475?mod=hp_LATEST><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Electric vehicle pioneer Tesla delivered 201,250 cars in the second quarter, above the 200,000 level that would have signaled a major disappointment. They don’t look good enough to lift the stock ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-deliveries-stock-51625230475?mod=hp_LATEST\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-deliveries-stock-51625230475?mod=hp_LATEST","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1150773953","content_text":"Electric vehicle pioneer Tesla delivered 201,250 cars in the second quarter, above the 200,000 level that would have signaled a major disappointment. They don’t look good enough to lift the stock materially, however.\nThe line in the sand for Tesla (ticker: TSLA) investors was about 200,000 deliveries. More than that should have been good for the stock. Less would have been bad. That means the second-quarter number qualifies as a minor “beat” versus investor expectations.\nTesla shares were down 0.3% at $675.68 in premarket trading.S&P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average futures were up 0.2%. Shares higher, however in early trading Friday, up about 1.7%. The S&P 500 is 0.3% higher.\nStill, the second-quarter number is another quarterly record. Tesla delivered about 185,000 vehicles in the first quarter of 2021, compared with 181,000 in the fourth quarter of 2020 and about 88,000 vehicles in the first quarter of 2020. Growth is continuing, but with full-year expectations for about 865,000 deliveries for 2021, investors likely expected stronger growth.\nTesla needs to deliver roughly 475,000 vehicles in the second half to hit Wall Street expectations. Tesla produced more than 206,000 vehicles in the second quarter, up from about 180,000 in the first quarter.\nTesla doesn’t have formal guidance for full-year 2021 deliveries. Tesla expects to grow faster than 50% in 2021. The company delivered about 500,000 vehicles in 2020.\nThe number doesn’t look like a big enough surprise to shake up Tesla stock, which has had an interesting year. Shares are down about 5% in the first quarter of the year, closing at roughly $668 a share. Shares traded above $900 in January. Shares gained about 2% in the second quarter, closing at about $680.\nComing into Friday, shares are down a little year to date, trailing behind comparable gains of the overall market as well as many other automotive stocks that have benefited from the global economic recovery which is boosting auto sales.\nMany things impacted Tesla stock including rising interest rates—which hurts high growth stocks such as Tesla more than slow growth stocks such as traditional auto makers—and a semiconductor shortage that constrained auto production around the globe. It took a while for investors to adjust to those factors, as well as others, and for Tesla stock to bounce off recent lows.\nChinese EV makers NIO(NIO) and XPeng(XPEV) also reported strong June deliveries. NIO stock opened higher Thursday and closed down 4.3%. XPeng shares opened higher as well and closed down 1.7%. Both stocks had a strong run in June. Investors appear to have sold on news.\nIt looks like they may do the same with Tesla.\nBullish investors have been waiting for a new catalyst to drive the stock out of its recent range. Second quarter deliveries could have been the catalyst, but they will probably be seen by the Street, and investors, as good and not great.\nLooking ahead, investors have new production coming from Texas and Germany to look forward to. That should happen close to the end of 2021. Tesla is also expected to offer its higher level of driver assistance software, dubbed Full Self Driving, on a subscription basis soon. The uptake of that product will be another thing closely watched by investors.\nAnother potential catalyst for investors will be second quarter earnings which should be reported in late July. Wall Street projects about 95 cents in per share earnings from $11.3 billion in sales. Tesla earned 93 cents a share in the first quarter of 2021. Based on deliveries numbers look achievable, but factors such as regulatory credit sales always can impact Tesla’s bottom line number.\nTesla earns and sells regulatory credits around the globe by making more than its fair share of zero emission vehicles.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":429,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":151367003,"gmtCreate":1625064361202,"gmtModify":1703735315762,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Should post the tipranks of the analysts and see their past performances.","listText":"Should post the tipranks of the analysts and see their past performances.","text":"Should post the tipranks of the analysts and see their past performances.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/151367003","repostId":"1105779613","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1105779613","pubTimestamp":1625062867,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1105779613?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-30 22:21","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stall Shows Wall Street Rift on Stratospheric Stock Value","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1105779613","media":"Bloomberg","summary":"One analyst sees it rising to $1,200, another tumbling to $150. Competitive threats build after meteoric 2020 stock surge. Few companies have been as polarizing on Wall Street as Tesla Inc.-- and the lackluster run this year has done nothing to lessen it.To Piper Sandler & Co.’s Alexander Potter, the company’s potential dominance of the electric-car business warrants a $1,200 stock-price target, nearly double its $680.76 close on Tuesday. To Craig Irwin of Roth Capital Partners, as rivals move t","content":"<ul>\n <li>One analyst sees it rising to $1,200, another tumbling to $150</li>\n <li>Competitive threats build after meteoric 2020 stock surge</li>\n</ul>\n<p>Few companies have been as polarizing on Wall Street as&nbsp;Tesla Inc.-- and the lackluster run this year has done nothing to lessen it.</p>\n<p>To&nbsp;Piper Sandler &amp; Co.’s Alexander Potter, the company’s potential dominance of the electric-car business&nbsp;warrants&nbsp;a $1,200 stock-price target, nearly double its $680.76 close on Tuesday. To Craig Irwin of Roth Capital Partners, as rivals move to pick off a head start that turned Tesla into the world’s most highly valued car company, the stock will sink to $150.</p>\n<p>The divergence illustrates the tension that has sent Tesla shares toward a 4% loss during the first half of the year even as rival automakers surged ahead. That’s a marked contrast to its more than 8-fold jump last year and reflects investors’ doubts about heady growth expectations for the company in the face of stronger competitive threats and signs of a sales slowdown in China.</p>\n<p>“For a long time Tesla was the only credible player in the high-quality EV market, and we are seeing that starting to change,” said JoAnne Feeney, portfolio manager atAdvisorsCapital Management, who said the company’s current valuation assumes it will become the biggest seller of cars in the U.S. “That seems to be an awful lot to ask.”</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fb8f7a35e4b2bc516159737958ead3d4\" tg-width=\"1200\" tg-height=\"675\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>Tesla sold about half a million cars worldwide in 2020, accounting for a fraction of even the 14.5 million light vehicles sold in the U.S., and it’s facing threats from traditional automakers such as&nbsp;General Motors Co.,Ford Motor Co.&nbsp;and&nbsp;Volkswagen AG&nbsp;that are launching their own electric-vehicle lineups. In China, Tesla’s lead over other startups has already started to shrink, according to&nbsp;UBS Group AG&nbsp;analyst Patrick Hummel.</p>\n<p>That competition poses a separate challenge to the company’s bottom line: Tesla has profited from selling carbon-offset credits to other carmakers that haven’t met their emissions targets. But the more its rivals’ sales of electric vehicles take off, the more that source of revenue will drop.</p>\n<p>Yet Tesla’s stock-market valuation is based on the expectation of steep growth, giving it little room for error. It’s currently trading at more than 650 times earnings per share, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. That compares with a multiple of 30 for the S&amp;P 500 Index.</p>\n<p>“Tesla’s market valuation is vastly over optimistic, ignoring the over 500 EV models that will be on the road by the end of 2025,” said&nbsp;Roth Capital’s Irwin. “Tesla does not operate in a vacuum and many companies have better technology.”</p>\n<p>The company will be reporting second-quarter delivery figures later this week, a major catalyst that analysts and investors will be keenly watching.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6d2dd8d41a7f20e74bd44de1c344d6a0\" tg-width=\"1200\" tg-height=\"675\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>But Tesla bulls are confident that the company’s valuation will be justified if it comes to dominate the industry, much like tech behemoths&nbsp;Alphabet Inc.,FaceBook Inc.&nbsp;and&nbsp;Amazon.com Inc&nbsp;.have come to lord over their’s.</p>\n<p>Others just see it as a pause for Tesla shares as investors come to terms with the surging valuation last year, when markets leaned heavily onto growth stocks as the pandemic shut down much of the global economy. That influx has started to shift this year in the so-called reflation trade, with funds moving back into stocks more likely to benefit from the recovery.</p>\n<p>Cathie Wood’s&nbsp;Ark Investment Management, which had a 0.6% stake in Tesla as of March 31 and is an ardent backer of the company, remains steadfast in its support despite the stock’s showing this year. Ark expects it to benefit from rising electric vehicle sales and sees even odds that it will deliver fully self-driven cars in four years.</p>\n<p>If all goes as planned? Ark forecasts the stock will reach $3,000 in 2025.</p>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stall Shows Wall Street Rift on Stratospheric Stock Value</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stall Shows Wall Street Rift on Stratospheric Stock Value\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-30 22:21 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-30/tesla-stall-shows-wall-street-rift-on-stratospheric-stock-value?srnd=markets-vp><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>One analyst sees it rising to $1,200, another tumbling to $150\nCompetitive threats build after meteoric 2020 stock surge\n\nFew companies have been as polarizing on Wall Street as Tesla Inc.-- and the ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-30/tesla-stall-shows-wall-street-rift-on-stratospheric-stock-value?srnd=markets-vp\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-30/tesla-stall-shows-wall-street-rift-on-stratospheric-stock-value?srnd=markets-vp","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1105779613","content_text":"One analyst sees it rising to $1,200, another tumbling to $150\nCompetitive threats build after meteoric 2020 stock surge\n\nFew companies have been as polarizing on Wall Street as Tesla Inc.-- and the lackluster run this year has done nothing to lessen it.\nTo Piper Sandler & Co.’s Alexander Potter, the company’s potential dominance of the electric-car business warrants a $1,200 stock-price target, nearly double its $680.76 close on Tuesday. To Craig Irwin of Roth Capital Partners, as rivals move to pick off a head start that turned Tesla into the world’s most highly valued car company, the stock will sink to $150.\nThe divergence illustrates the tension that has sent Tesla shares toward a 4% loss during the first half of the year even as rival automakers surged ahead. That’s a marked contrast to its more than 8-fold jump last year and reflects investors’ doubts about heady growth expectations for the company in the face of stronger competitive threats and signs of a sales slowdown in China.\n“For a long time Tesla was the only credible player in the high-quality EV market, and we are seeing that starting to change,” said JoAnne Feeney, portfolio manager atAdvisorsCapital Management, who said the company’s current valuation assumes it will become the biggest seller of cars in the U.S. “That seems to be an awful lot to ask.”\n\nTesla sold about half a million cars worldwide in 2020, accounting for a fraction of even the 14.5 million light vehicles sold in the U.S., and it’s facing threats from traditional automakers such as General Motors Co.,Ford Motor Co. and Volkswagen AG that are launching their own electric-vehicle lineups. In China, Tesla’s lead over other startups has already started to shrink, according to UBS Group AG analyst Patrick Hummel.\nThat competition poses a separate challenge to the company’s bottom line: Tesla has profited from selling carbon-offset credits to other carmakers that haven’t met their emissions targets. But the more its rivals’ sales of electric vehicles take off, the more that source of revenue will drop.\nYet Tesla’s stock-market valuation is based on the expectation of steep growth, giving it little room for error. It’s currently trading at more than 650 times earnings per share, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. That compares with a multiple of 30 for the S&P 500 Index.\n“Tesla’s market valuation is vastly over optimistic, ignoring the over 500 EV models that will be on the road by the end of 2025,” said Roth Capital’s Irwin. “Tesla does not operate in a vacuum and many companies have better technology.”\nThe company will be reporting second-quarter delivery figures later this week, a major catalyst that analysts and investors will be keenly watching.\n\nBut Tesla bulls are confident that the company’s valuation will be justified if it comes to dominate the industry, much like tech behemoths Alphabet Inc.,FaceBook Inc. and Amazon.com Inc .have come to lord over their’s.\nOthers just see it as a pause for Tesla shares as investors come to terms with the surging valuation last year, when markets leaned heavily onto growth stocks as the pandemic shut down much of the global economy. That influx has started to shift this year in the so-called reflation trade, with funds moving back into stocks more likely to benefit from the recovery.\nCathie Wood’s Ark Investment Management, which had a 0.6% stake in Tesla as of March 31 and is an ardent backer of the company, remains steadfast in its support despite the stock’s showing this year. Ark expects it to benefit from rising electric vehicle sales and sees even odds that it will deliver fully self-driven cars in four years.\nIf all goes as planned? Ark forecasts the stock will reach $3,000 in 2025.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":201,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":122249274,"gmtCreate":1624624968298,"gmtModify":1703842002817,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Can monitor to short.","listText":"Can monitor to short.","text":"Can monitor to short.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/122249274","repostId":"2146025387","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":137,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":122654039,"gmtCreate":1624619176121,"gmtModify":1703841858580,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Poor poor article. Picking and choosing data point to validate a specific view. A more balanced articlewould be to examine the strength and weakness of the company vs the valuation they are now commanding.","listText":"Poor poor article. Picking and choosing data point to validate a specific view. A more balanced articlewould be to examine the strength and weakness of the company vs the valuation they are now commanding.","text":"Poor poor article. Picking and choosing data point to validate a specific view. A more balanced articlewould be to examine the strength and weakness of the company vs the valuation they are now commanding.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/122654039","repostId":"1116076888","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1116076888","pubTimestamp":1624612129,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1116076888?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-25 17:08","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Why Tesla stock is getting left in Ford's and GM's dust","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1116076888","media":"cnn","summary":"New York Tesla had a stellar 2020: The electric car maker was added to the S&P 500 and the stock surged an electrifying 743%. But some investors have pulled the plug on the company lately.Tesla  shares are nearly 25% below their all-time high set earlier in the year, and down 2% for 2021 to date -— a time when traditional automakers are surging as they ramp up electric vehicle ambitions.It seems investors are a bit infatuated with these legacy Big 3 automakers as they look to rapidly expand thei","content":"<p>New York (CNN Business)Tesla had a stellar 2020: The electric car maker was added to the S&amp;P 500 and the stock surged an electrifying 743%. But some investors have pulled the plug on the company lately.</p>\n<p>Tesla (TSLA) shares are nearly 25% below their all-time high set earlier in the year, and down 2% for 2021 to date -— a time when traditional automakers are surging as they ramp up electric vehicle ambitions.</p>\n<p>Ford (F) stock is up nearly 75%, putting it in the top 10 of the S&amp;P 500 in 2021. The company unveiled its electric F-150 Lightning truck last month and also told investors that it now expects electric vehicles to account for 40% of global sales by 2030.</p>\n<p>And GM (GM) is up more than 40% as well. The Chevrolet, Buick and Cadillac maker said this month that it's looking to spend a whopping $35 billion on EVs by 2025.</p>\n<p>It seems investors are a bit infatuated with these legacy Big 3 automakers as they look to rapidly expand their electric car offerings to catch up with Tesla.</p>\n<p>Tesla is still growing incredibly quickly. Analysts expect earnings per share to more than double this year and increase at an average rate of about 45% annually over the next few years.</p>\n<p>Yet Tesla is one of the most polarizing stocks on Wall Street.</p>\n<p>According to Refinitiv, 14 analysts have the stock rated a \"buy,\" 13 a \"hold\" and 10 a \"sell.\" Contrast that with GM, which has 20 buy ratings, two holds and no sells.</p>\n<p><b>Skeptics have many questions about Tesla and Musk</b></p>\n<p>The consensus target price for Tesla stock from analysts is $652, about 6% lower than its current price.</p>\n<p>Tesla critics have a pile of worries to point to. A notable short seller who was featured in \"The Big Short\" is betting against the company. Concerns about Tesla's management bench sprung up after longtime executive Jerome Guillen abruptly left earlier this month — especially since CEO Elon Musk is also busy running SpaceX.</p>\n<p>And Musk's obsession with bitcoin and dogecoin, along with other extracurricular activities like hosting Saturday Night Live and constantly tweeting, might be a turnoff for some investors and analysts.</p>\n<p>Still, there is no denying that the company has plenty of ardent fans, and its vehicles have grabbed plenty of positive headlines this week alone.</p>\n<p>For example, Cars.com (CARS) announced earlier this week that Tesla's Model 3 was ranked first in its American-Made Index, which measures how much a vehicle contributes to the US economy based on factors such as domestic factory jobs, manufacturing plants and parts sourcing.</p>\n<p>The Model 3 edged out Ford's Mustang for the top spot, and Tesla's Model Y also ranked third on the list. Shares of Tesla rallied more than 5% Wednesday following the news.</p>\n<p>The stock gained even more ground Thursday after Musk tweeted the night before that Tesla investors might get preferential treatment to buy shares of SpaceX-owned Starlink if SpaceX eventually decides to spin off the satellite internet service in a few years.</p>\n<p>So even though Tesla's stock is still in the red this year, shares have quickly clawed back much of their 2021 losses after a more than 12% surge in the past five days.</p>\n<p>Tesla is nothing if not volatile.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why Tesla stock is getting left in Ford's and GM's dust</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhy Tesla stock is getting left in Ford's and GM's dust\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-25 17:08 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/24/investing/tesla-stock-ford-gm/index.html><strong>cnn</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>New York (CNN Business)Tesla had a stellar 2020: The electric car maker was added to the S&P 500 and the stock surged an electrifying 743%. But some investors have pulled the plug on the company ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/24/investing/tesla-stock-ford-gm/index.html\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/24/investing/tesla-stock-ford-gm/index.html","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1116076888","content_text":"New York (CNN Business)Tesla had a stellar 2020: The electric car maker was added to the S&P 500 and the stock surged an electrifying 743%. But some investors have pulled the plug on the company lately.\nTesla (TSLA) shares are nearly 25% below their all-time high set earlier in the year, and down 2% for 2021 to date -— a time when traditional automakers are surging as they ramp up electric vehicle ambitions.\nFord (F) stock is up nearly 75%, putting it in the top 10 of the S&P 500 in 2021. The company unveiled its electric F-150 Lightning truck last month and also told investors that it now expects electric vehicles to account for 40% of global sales by 2030.\nAnd GM (GM) is up more than 40% as well. The Chevrolet, Buick and Cadillac maker said this month that it's looking to spend a whopping $35 billion on EVs by 2025.\nIt seems investors are a bit infatuated with these legacy Big 3 automakers as they look to rapidly expand their electric car offerings to catch up with Tesla.\nTesla is still growing incredibly quickly. Analysts expect earnings per share to more than double this year and increase at an average rate of about 45% annually over the next few years.\nYet Tesla is one of the most polarizing stocks on Wall Street.\nAccording to Refinitiv, 14 analysts have the stock rated a \"buy,\" 13 a \"hold\" and 10 a \"sell.\" Contrast that with GM, which has 20 buy ratings, two holds and no sells.\nSkeptics have many questions about Tesla and Musk\nThe consensus target price for Tesla stock from analysts is $652, about 6% lower than its current price.\nTesla critics have a pile of worries to point to. A notable short seller who was featured in \"The Big Short\" is betting against the company. Concerns about Tesla's management bench sprung up after longtime executive Jerome Guillen abruptly left earlier this month — especially since CEO Elon Musk is also busy running SpaceX.\nAnd Musk's obsession with bitcoin and dogecoin, along with other extracurricular activities like hosting Saturday Night Live and constantly tweeting, might be a turnoff for some investors and analysts.\nStill, there is no denying that the company has plenty of ardent fans, and its vehicles have grabbed plenty of positive headlines this week alone.\nFor example, Cars.com (CARS) announced earlier this week that Tesla's Model 3 was ranked first in its American-Made Index, which measures how much a vehicle contributes to the US economy based on factors such as domestic factory jobs, manufacturing plants and parts sourcing.\nThe Model 3 edged out Ford's Mustang for the top spot, and Tesla's Model Y also ranked third on the list. Shares of Tesla rallied more than 5% Wednesday following the news.\nThe stock gained even more ground Thursday after Musk tweeted the night before that Tesla investors might get preferential treatment to buy shares of SpaceX-owned Starlink if SpaceX eventually decides to spin off the satellite internet service in a few years.\nSo even though Tesla's stock is still in the red this year, shares have quickly clawed back much of their 2021 losses after a more than 12% surge in the past five days.\nTesla is nothing if not volatile.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":259,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":121048524,"gmtCreate":1624446312068,"gmtModify":1703836916080,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Must be joking. Nio had limited proprietary technology and is replying on branding to win customers.Marketing is another cost element which will eat into margin.Within China, it is facing competition from Xpeng, BYD.Very very very tough to win.&nbsp;","listText":"Must be joking. Nio had limited proprietary technology and is replying on branding to win customers.Marketing is another cost element which will eat into margin.Within China, it is facing competition from Xpeng, BYD.Very very very tough to win.&nbsp;","text":"Must be joking. Nio had limited proprietary technology and is replying on branding to win customers.Marketing is another cost element which will eat into margin.Within China, it is facing competition from Xpeng, BYD.Very very very tough to win.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":7,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/121048524","repostId":"1145825451","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1145825451","pubTimestamp":1624433586,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1145825451?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-23 15:33","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Why I Believe NIO Will Beat Out Tesla","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1145825451","media":"InvestorPlace","summary":"The fact that Tesla scrapped its Model S Plaid Plus release is just part of it.Super fans of the latest and greatest high-endTesla, Inc. model received some disappointing news a week ago when CEO Elon Musk abruptly canceled the release of its highly anticipated Model S Plaid Plus with a tweet on June 6.Instead, the company has begun delivering a new Model S Plaid that has only a 390-mile range and 1,020 horsepower, though it still sprints to from 0 to 60 miles per hour in just two seconds.The go","content":"<blockquote>\n <b>The fact that Tesla scrapped its Model S Plaid Plus release is just part of it.</b>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Super fans of the latest and greatest high-end<b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:<b>TSLA</b>) model received some disappointing news a week ago when CEO Elon Musk abruptly canceled the release of its highly anticipated Model S Plaid Plus with a tweet on June 6.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b294a3604c7ba82bd19b3c70be3a4020\" tg-width=\"300\" tg-height=\"169\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">Source: nrqemi / Shutterstock.com</p>\n<p>Musk wrote there was… “No need, as Plaid is just so good.”</p>\n<p>The Model S Plaid Plus was supposed to be the fastest, most powerful and priciest version of the company’s Model S. Priced at $149,990, it was to feature a range of 520 miles, thanks to its innovative 4680 battery cells, 1,100 horsepower and the ability to speed from 0 to 60 mph in less than two seconds.</p>\n<p>Instead, the company has begun delivering a new Model S Plaid that has only a 390-mile range and 1,020 horsepower, though it still sprints to from 0 to 60 miles per hour in just two seconds.</p>\n<p>As a way to “sugar coat” its flip flop, Tesla said the Model S Plaid is just as fast as the Model S Plaid Plus and $20,000 cheaper. Humm.</p>\n<p>This “bait and switch” has some Tesla fans worried, since they had deposits on the Model S Plaid Plus and wanted the innovative 4680 battery cells that Tesla had been touting as the key to longer range and more power. Essentially, the 4680 battery cells were the latest great Tesla development, since they were the first batteries to also be a structural component that supposedly allowed Tesla to lower the weight of its vehicles.</p>\n<p>Both the company’s Austin and Berlin manufacturing plants now under construction are supposed to also be making the 4680 batteries for new Tesla vehicles. If there is a problem with the engineering associated with utilizing the 4680 batteries or making them a structural component, then Tesla has grossly miscalculated, which is now worrying investors.</p>\n<p>Clearly something happened to delay the 4680 batteries that were supposed to provide Tesla with a competitive and engineering edge. For Tesla’s sake, I hope they figure out the problems associated with their much hyped 4680 battery cells, otherwise concerns about its two new manufacturing plants will emerge, as well as the stock losing more of its “mojo.”</p>\n<p>As someone who owns more than a few high-performance vehicles, I can tell you that the engineering geeks I know do<i>not</i>want to get a new Model S Plaid instead of a Model S Plaid Plus and will likely ask for their deposits back.</p>\n<p>What Tesla did is like Ferrari or Porsche telling its customers that one of their much-hyped new performance models is now not being sold because the base model was just as good! Car fanatics, like myself, like the latest and greatest engineering tidbits, so we would rather cancel our orders versus settle for a base model.</p>\n<p>The good news for Tesla is that its China sales in May resurged to 21,936, up sharply from 11,671 in April. The company’s sales tend to spike at the end of each quarter. For example, Tesla sold 35,478 vehicles in China in March, which was the strongest month ever in China.</p>\n<p>This is raising expectations for very strong China sales in June, especially now that the Model Y is being manufactured in Shanghai. Interestingly, since most Chinese Teslas are now made with iron phosphate batteries, these vehicles have lower range than its lithium cobalt vehicles, but its iron phosphate vehicles are cheaper and now increasingly being exported to Europe.</p>\n<p>However, I’m convinced another electric vehicle (EV) company will eventually displace Tesla as the biggest manufacturer of EVs in China.</p>\n<p><b>Taking Advantage of the EV Revolution’s Profit Potential</b></p>\n<p>I’m talking about&nbsp;<b>Nio, Inc.</b>(NYSE:<b>NIO</b>). The reality is that this company is on the verge of dominating the EV market in China and Hong Kong. It’s why I put NIO on my<b><i>Platinum Growth Club</i></b>Model Portfolio back in February.</p>\n<p>The company boasts that it is the “next-generation car company,” as it designs and manufactures electric vehicles that utilize the latest technologies in connectivity, autonomous driving and artificial intelligence (AI). NIO currently offers an electric seven-seater SUV (ES8) and a five-seater electric SUV (ES6) and recently introduced an attractive electric sedan (ET7). Its vehicles utilize NOMI, an in-vehicle artificial intelligence assistant.</p>\n<p>The company is also partnering with cutting-edge chip companies like<b>NVIDIA Corporation</b>(NASDAQ:<b>NVDA</b>), another one of my<b><i>Platinum Growth Club</i></b>Model Portfolio stocks. NIO plans to use the NVIDIA DRIVE Orin system-on-a-chip for its electric vehicles that will provide autonomous driving capabilities. The NVIDIA DRIVE Orin-powered supercomputer, which is being called Adam, will be launched in the ET7 sedan in China in 2022. Announcements like this are very positive, so NIO has been stealing some of Tesla’s thunder lately.</p>\n<p>Now, it’s important to note that NIO was bailed out by the Chinese government. Last year, the Chinese government injected $1 billion and now has a 24% ownership in the company. The reality is that China wants to dominate at least five major industries by 2025, and NIO is now its ticket to dominate EV manufacturing.</p>\n<p>With the backing of the Chinese government, some Wall Street firms are eager to help NIO by issuing new debt or equity. So, I wouldn’t be surprised if NIO surpasses Tesla, which is currently number-two in China, for market share in the upcoming years.</p>\n<p>That means, if you missed Tesla’s parabolic run like I did, NIO is essentially giving us a “second chance” to make money in a potentially explosive electric vehicle company.</p>\n<p>Shares of NIO climbed nearly 13% since the company’s June 4 announcement of its May delivery report and positive analyst comments, while Tesla shares rose almost 3%. First, NIO revealed that the global chip shortage is starting to take a toll on its business. NIO only delivered 6,711 vehicles in May, or a 5.5% decline from April’s deliveries. Company management noted that deliveries were “adversely impacted for several days due to the volatility of semiconductor supply and certain logistical adjustments.”</p>\n<p>Interestingly, despite the month-to-month dip, NIO’s deliveries were still up 95.3% year-over-year. Strong demand in China even inspired a Citigroup analyst to upgrade NIO to a buy rating, as he expects demand to accelerate in the coming months.</p>\n<p>In other words, NIO represents the<b>crème de la crème</b>of EV stocks right now.</p>","source":"lsy1606302653667","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why I Believe NIO Will Beat Out Tesla</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhy I Believe NIO Will Beat Out Tesla\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-23 15:33 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://investorplace.com/2021/06/why-i-believe-nio-will-beat-out-tesla/><strong>InvestorPlace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>The fact that Tesla scrapped its Model S Plaid Plus release is just part of it.\n\nSuper fans of the latest and greatest high-endTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) model received some disappointing news a week ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2021/06/why-i-believe-nio-will-beat-out-tesla/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","NIO":"蔚来"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2021/06/why-i-believe-nio-will-beat-out-tesla/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1145825451","content_text":"The fact that Tesla scrapped its Model S Plaid Plus release is just part of it.\n\nSuper fans of the latest and greatest high-endTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) model received some disappointing news a week ago when CEO Elon Musk abruptly canceled the release of its highly anticipated Model S Plaid Plus with a tweet on June 6.\nSource: nrqemi / Shutterstock.com\nMusk wrote there was… “No need, as Plaid is just so good.”\nThe Model S Plaid Plus was supposed to be the fastest, most powerful and priciest version of the company’s Model S. Priced at $149,990, it was to feature a range of 520 miles, thanks to its innovative 4680 battery cells, 1,100 horsepower and the ability to speed from 0 to 60 mph in less than two seconds.\nInstead, the company has begun delivering a new Model S Plaid that has only a 390-mile range and 1,020 horsepower, though it still sprints to from 0 to 60 miles per hour in just two seconds.\nAs a way to “sugar coat” its flip flop, Tesla said the Model S Plaid is just as fast as the Model S Plaid Plus and $20,000 cheaper. Humm.\nThis “bait and switch” has some Tesla fans worried, since they had deposits on the Model S Plaid Plus and wanted the innovative 4680 battery cells that Tesla had been touting as the key to longer range and more power. Essentially, the 4680 battery cells were the latest great Tesla development, since they were the first batteries to also be a structural component that supposedly allowed Tesla to lower the weight of its vehicles.\nBoth the company’s Austin and Berlin manufacturing plants now under construction are supposed to also be making the 4680 batteries for new Tesla vehicles. If there is a problem with the engineering associated with utilizing the 4680 batteries or making them a structural component, then Tesla has grossly miscalculated, which is now worrying investors.\nClearly something happened to delay the 4680 batteries that were supposed to provide Tesla with a competitive and engineering edge. For Tesla’s sake, I hope they figure out the problems associated with their much hyped 4680 battery cells, otherwise concerns about its two new manufacturing plants will emerge, as well as the stock losing more of its “mojo.”\nAs someone who owns more than a few high-performance vehicles, I can tell you that the engineering geeks I know donotwant to get a new Model S Plaid instead of a Model S Plaid Plus and will likely ask for their deposits back.\nWhat Tesla did is like Ferrari or Porsche telling its customers that one of their much-hyped new performance models is now not being sold because the base model was just as good! Car fanatics, like myself, like the latest and greatest engineering tidbits, so we would rather cancel our orders versus settle for a base model.\nThe good news for Tesla is that its China sales in May resurged to 21,936, up sharply from 11,671 in April. The company’s sales tend to spike at the end of each quarter. For example, Tesla sold 35,478 vehicles in China in March, which was the strongest month ever in China.\nThis is raising expectations for very strong China sales in June, especially now that the Model Y is being manufactured in Shanghai. Interestingly, since most Chinese Teslas are now made with iron phosphate batteries, these vehicles have lower range than its lithium cobalt vehicles, but its iron phosphate vehicles are cheaper and now increasingly being exported to Europe.\nHowever, I’m convinced another electric vehicle (EV) company will eventually displace Tesla as the biggest manufacturer of EVs in China.\nTaking Advantage of the EV Revolution’s Profit Potential\nI’m talking about Nio, Inc.(NYSE:NIO). The reality is that this company is on the verge of dominating the EV market in China and Hong Kong. It’s why I put NIO on myPlatinum Growth ClubModel Portfolio back in February.\nThe company boasts that it is the “next-generation car company,” as it designs and manufactures electric vehicles that utilize the latest technologies in connectivity, autonomous driving and artificial intelligence (AI). NIO currently offers an electric seven-seater SUV (ES8) and a five-seater electric SUV (ES6) and recently introduced an attractive electric sedan (ET7). Its vehicles utilize NOMI, an in-vehicle artificial intelligence assistant.\nThe company is also partnering with cutting-edge chip companies likeNVIDIA Corporation(NASDAQ:NVDA), another one of myPlatinum Growth ClubModel Portfolio stocks. NIO plans to use the NVIDIA DRIVE Orin system-on-a-chip for its electric vehicles that will provide autonomous driving capabilities. The NVIDIA DRIVE Orin-powered supercomputer, which is being called Adam, will be launched in the ET7 sedan in China in 2022. Announcements like this are very positive, so NIO has been stealing some of Tesla’s thunder lately.\nNow, it’s important to note that NIO was bailed out by the Chinese government. Last year, the Chinese government injected $1 billion and now has a 24% ownership in the company. The reality is that China wants to dominate at least five major industries by 2025, and NIO is now its ticket to dominate EV manufacturing.\nWith the backing of the Chinese government, some Wall Street firms are eager to help NIO by issuing new debt or equity. So, I wouldn’t be surprised if NIO surpasses Tesla, which is currently number-two in China, for market share in the upcoming years.\nThat means, if you missed Tesla’s parabolic run like I did, NIO is essentially giving us a “second chance” to make money in a potentially explosive electric vehicle company.\nShares of NIO climbed nearly 13% since the company’s June 4 announcement of its May delivery report and positive analyst comments, while Tesla shares rose almost 3%. First, NIO revealed that the global chip shortage is starting to take a toll on its business. NIO only delivered 6,711 vehicles in May, or a 5.5% decline from April’s deliveries. Company management noted that deliveries were “adversely impacted for several days due to the volatility of semiconductor supply and certain logistical adjustments.”\nInterestingly, despite the month-to-month dip, NIO’s deliveries were still up 95.3% year-over-year. Strong demand in China even inspired a Citigroup analyst to upgrade NIO to a buy rating, as he expects demand to accelerate in the coming months.\nIn other words, NIO represents thecrème de la crèmeof EV stocks right now.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":401,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":123576786,"gmtCreate":1624432113145,"gmtModify":1703836503653,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Caveat emptor. Fashion trends come and go, withiut any announcement.&nbsp;Have to decide if you want to lead or follow&nbsp;the trend.","listText":"Caveat emptor. Fashion trends come and go, withiut any announcement.&nbsp;Have to decide if you want to lead or follow&nbsp;the trend.","text":"Caveat emptor. 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right!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/367591944","repostId":"1126766449","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1126766449","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"为用户提供金融资讯、行情、数据，旨在帮助投资者理解世界，做投资决策。","home_visible":1,"media_name":"老虎资讯综合","id":"102","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1614956275,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1126766449?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-03-05 22:57","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock skids more than 4%","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1126766449","media":"老虎资讯综合","summary":"Electric-vehicle stocks have lost their charge in recent weeks, with Tesla down more than 23% over the past month.According to tech analysts Daniel Ives and Strecker Backe of investment firm Wedbush, the EV stock slump has been largely caused by the more general \"risk-off\" mood in markets, compounded by sales weakness in the key Chinese market in January.But investors have no reason to unbuckle yet, the analysts said, because \"the EV party is just beginning,\" they wrote in a note on Thursday.Whi","content":"<p>(March 5)&nbsp;Tesla Stock skids more than 4%.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/785b01f808698231289bc68d3a30ffc4\" tg-width=\"1050\" tg-height=\"498\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p>Electric-vehicle stocks have lost their charge in recent weeks, with Tesla down more than 23% over the past month.</p><p>According to tech analysts Daniel Ives and Strecker Backe of investment firm Wedbush, the EV stock slump has been largely caused by the more general \"risk-off\" mood in markets, compounded by sales weakness in the key Chinese market in January.</p><p>But investors have no reason to unbuckle yet, the analysts said, because \"the EV party is just beginning,\" they wrote in a note on Thursday.</p><p>While the global chip shortage has \"modestly impacted production capacity\" at the likes of Tesla <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$(TSLA)$</a> and Nio <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NIO\">$(NIO)$</a>, the Wedbush analysts believe this will be normalized throughout the course of this month.</p><p>Tesla stock has also been hurt by contained recalls in China, which has drawn the ire of regulators in Beijing, they said.</p><p>And shares in Nio slipped after the company's recent results. In large part this was because investors were disappointed by the growth trajectory for the first quarter of the year, despite a 100% year-over-year increase, Ives and Backe said.</p><p>The selloff in EV stocks has mostly been focused on Chinese companies, the Wedbush analysts said, pointing to Xpeng <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XPEV\">$(XPEV)$</a> and Li Auto <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LI\">$(LI)$</a> stocks, as well as U.S. electric-vehicle battery company QuantumScape <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/QS\">$(QS)$</a>, which is backed by Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates and Volkswagen , among others.</p><p>Despite the recent headwinds, Wedbush remains bullish on electric-vehicle stocks, projecting a $5 trillion market opportunity over the next 10 years. This is based on a growth in EV market penetration from 3% today to 10% by 2025, with much more to come.</p><p>The analysts pointed to established automobile makers, like Volvo , GM <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GM\">$(GM)$</a>, and Ford <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/F\">$(F)$</a>, getting into the electric-vehicle business as substantive evidence that there is pent-up global demand for EV technology.</p><p>Essential reading:Tesla is in decline, SUVs are king, and more insights from this critical electric-vehicle market</p><p>So look beyond just auto stocks, Wedbush advised, to the wider ecosystem, which includes QuantumScape as well as other companies exposed to the sector, like sustainable battery recycler Li-Cycle -- which intends to list in New York via a merger with Peridot Acquisition <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PDAC\">$(PDAC)$</a>.</p><p>The analysts also project that there will be a \"green tidal wave\" driven by President Joe Biden's administration, with tax credits and incentives around electric-vehicles.</p><p>In the short term, however, Ives and Backe said that China will be \"the linchpin of growth\" for the EV market, with \"eye popping demand\" in 2021 and 2022 giving Tesla, with its Gigafactory 3 in Shanghai, a major competitive advantage.</p><p>Domestic players Nio, BYD, Xpeng, and Li Auto are also \"firing on all cylinders and just scratching the surface\" of total addressable demand in China, the analysts said.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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In large part this was because investors were disappointed by the growth trajectory for the first quarter of the year, despite a 100% year-over-year increase, Ives and Backe said.</p><p>The selloff in EV stocks has mostly been focused on Chinese companies, the Wedbush analysts said, pointing to Xpeng <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/XPEV\">$(XPEV)$</a> and Li Auto <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/LI\">$(LI)$</a> stocks, as well as U.S. electric-vehicle battery company QuantumScape <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/QS\">$(QS)$</a>, which is backed by Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates and Volkswagen , among others.</p><p>Despite the recent headwinds, Wedbush remains bullish on electric-vehicle stocks, projecting a $5 trillion market opportunity over the next 10 years. This is based on a growth in EV market penetration from 3% today to 10% by 2025, with much more to come.</p><p>The analysts pointed to established automobile makers, like Volvo , GM <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GM\">$(GM)$</a>, and Ford <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/F\">$(F)$</a>, getting into the electric-vehicle business as substantive evidence that there is pent-up global demand for EV technology.</p><p>Essential reading:Tesla is in decline, SUVs are king, and more insights from this critical electric-vehicle market</p><p>So look beyond just auto stocks, Wedbush advised, to the wider ecosystem, which includes QuantumScape as well as other companies exposed to the sector, like sustainable battery recycler Li-Cycle -- which intends to list in New York via a merger with Peridot Acquisition <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PDAC\">$(PDAC)$</a>.</p><p>The analysts also project that there will be a \"green tidal wave\" driven by President Joe Biden's administration, with tax credits and incentives around electric-vehicles.</p><p>In the short term, however, Ives and Backe said that China will be \"the linchpin of growth\" for the EV market, with \"eye popping demand\" in 2021 and 2022 giving Tesla, with its Gigafactory 3 in Shanghai, a major competitive advantage.</p><p>Domestic players Nio, BYD, Xpeng, and Li Auto are also \"firing on all cylinders and just scratching the surface\" of total addressable demand in China, the analysts said.</p>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a7ed81b1e72df2f2f0f21497fe08eaed","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1126766449","content_text":"(March 5) Tesla Stock skids more than 4%.Electric-vehicle stocks have lost their charge in recent weeks, with Tesla down more than 23% over the past month.According to tech analysts Daniel Ives and Strecker Backe of investment firm Wedbush, the EV stock slump has been largely caused by the more general \"risk-off\" mood in markets, compounded by sales weakness in the key Chinese market in January.But investors have no reason to unbuckle yet, the analysts said, because \"the EV party is just beginning,\" they wrote in a note on Thursday.While the global chip shortage has \"modestly impacted production capacity\" at the likes of Tesla $(TSLA)$ and Nio $(NIO)$, the Wedbush analysts believe this will be normalized throughout the course of this month.Tesla stock has also been hurt by contained recalls in China, which has drawn the ire of regulators in Beijing, they said.And shares in Nio slipped after the company's recent results. In large part this was because investors were disappointed by the growth trajectory for the first quarter of the year, despite a 100% year-over-year increase, Ives and Backe said.The selloff in EV stocks has mostly been focused on Chinese companies, the Wedbush analysts said, pointing to Xpeng $(XPEV)$ and Li Auto $(LI)$ stocks, as well as U.S. electric-vehicle battery company QuantumScape $(QS)$, which is backed by Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates and Volkswagen , among others.Despite the recent headwinds, Wedbush remains bullish on electric-vehicle stocks, projecting a $5 trillion market opportunity over the next 10 years. This is based on a growth in EV market penetration from 3% today to 10% by 2025, with much more to come.The analysts pointed to established automobile makers, like Volvo , GM $(GM)$, and Ford $(F)$, getting into the electric-vehicle business as substantive evidence that there is pent-up global demand for EV technology.Essential reading:Tesla is in decline, SUVs are king, and more insights from this critical electric-vehicle marketSo look beyond just auto stocks, Wedbush advised, to the wider ecosystem, which includes QuantumScape as well as other companies exposed to the sector, like sustainable battery recycler Li-Cycle -- which intends to list in New York via a merger with Peridot Acquisition $(PDAC)$.The analysts also project that there will be a \"green tidal wave\" driven by President Joe Biden's administration, with tax credits and incentives around electric-vehicles.In the short term, however, Ives and Backe said that China will be \"the linchpin of growth\" for the EV market, with \"eye popping demand\" in 2021 and 2022 giving Tesla, with its Gigafactory 3 in Shanghai, a major competitive advantage.Domestic players Nio, BYD, Xpeng, and Li Auto are also \"firing on all cylinders and just scratching the surface\" of total addressable demand in China, the analysts said.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":175,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"hots":[{"id":9087843242,"gmtCreate":1650991401264,"gmtModify":1676534829321,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$</a>Whenever the stock nose dives, I can't help but be angry with Elon Musk for doing non-Tesla related things that gives main stream media ammunition&nbsp;to speculate and drive down prices. Think&nbsp;Bitcoin, Twitter.However to me, he is a genius and visionary. I rationalise&nbsp;that if you are a follower, you have accept that he would be controversial and the stock would be volatile.","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$</a>Whenever the stock nose dives, I can't help but be angry with Elon Musk for doing non-Tesla related things that gives main stream media ammunition&nbsp;to speculate and drive down prices. Think&nbsp;Bitcoin, Twitter.However to me, he is a genius and visionary. I rationalise&nbsp;that if you are a follower, you have accept that he would be controversial and the stock would be volatile.","text":"$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$Whenever the stock nose dives, I can't help but be angry with Elon Musk for doing non-Tesla related things that gives main stream media ammunition to speculate and drive down prices. Think Bitcoin, Twitter.However to me, he is a genius and visionary. I rationalise that if you are a follower, you have accept that he would be controversial and the stock would be volatile.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":21,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9087843242","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":3551,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":860044712,"gmtCreate":1632112080436,"gmtModify":1676530703619,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"BYD and VW group&nbsp;","listText":"BYD and VW group&nbsp;","text":"BYD and VW group","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":7,"commentSize":4,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/860044712","repostId":"1165266849","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1165266849","pubTimestamp":1632095568,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1165266849?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-09-20 07:52","market":"us","language":"en","title":"If there were a ‘Big Three’ of electric vehicle makers, who would join Tesla?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1165266849","media":"MarketWatch","summary":"Delays at young electric-vehicle companies suggest that large auto makers are best placed to challen","content":"<p>Delays at young electric-vehicle companies suggest that large auto makers are best placed to challenge Tesla in the future, but the smart money is chasing less glamorous names </p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bf4fe95f357a1ce8ef9aeefc9e1e62d0\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"487\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>MarketWatch photo illustration/Tesla, iStockphoto</span></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p>When Henry Ford was reorganizing his Detroit Automobile Company into what would become the juggernaut of U.S. auto manufacturing, hundreds of other young auto makers were also starting up.</p>\n<p>One of them, the National Motor Vehicle Car Manufacturing Co, started out in Indianapolis, which boasted six automakers in 1906. National Motor even competed in and won the 1912 Indy 500. Sales boomed and it expanded production, but after a merger with Associated Motor Industries in 1922, the company ended up in receivership in 1924. Like hundreds of other early car companies, none of those six Indianapolis players survived.</p>\n<p>Investors eyeing the electric vehicle space today may have a sense of déjà vu. The huge number of companies, large and small, currently working on electric vehicles or their components is reminiscent of the turn of the 20th century, when companies like National and others experimented with body forms and engine types, from steam-powered to internal combustion to early versions of electric vehicles.</p>\n<p>By the 1929 stock market crash, there were only about 40 auto makers left, and that number eventually shrunk to where the top companies in the U.S. are referred to as the “Big Three.” Similar shakeouts occurred globally, with Big Threes emerging in other countries, like Japan and Germany.</p>\n<p>One major difference between then and now, said Brett Smith, director of technology research at the Center for Automotive Research, or CAR, is that 100 years ago, “everybody was starting from scratch—no one had an advantage,” while today, traditional auto makers already know how to build cars and create huge assembly lines.、</p>\n<p></p>\n<blockquote>\n ‘Over the next 5 years, there is going to be some remarkable growth for some of these companies. But there will be some that don’t grow and struggle. There is more to be optimistic about with these companies than there was five years ago, because the tech is getting closer to broader adoption. The problem is that the traditional car companies have been getting into it too now and competition is tougher.’”\n</blockquote>\n<blockquote>\n — Brett Smith, director, technology research, Center for Automotive Research \n</blockquote>\n<p></p>\n<p>The question for investors then is which companies will become the big 3 of EVs?</p>\n<p>The company with the biggest advantage in electric vehicles today is Tesla Inc.&nbsp;which has finally proved to the world that EVs are the future. As rival startups and legacy automakers seek to emulate its success, investors must ponder which EV companies will succeed and which will disappear.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Globally, there are hundreds of startups working on some aspect of electric vehicles, from creating the car, to charging station infrastructure, improving the manufacturing process, developing new battery technologies and working on fuel cells. CB Insights of New York said it is tracking more than 700 startups around the world that are active in the space.</p>\n<p>“There seems to be a new one every day,” said Smith of CAR.</p>\n<p>Since February, the shares of many better known startups have lost much of their value because of serious issues, including regulatory inquiries or investigations, class action lawsuits, management tumult and abrupt executive departures. Piling onto these woes — which mainly stem from overpromising and under-delivering — is a semiconductor shortage hampering efforts to get first products out the door.</p>\n<p>Several publicly traded EV makers are still technically startup companies, with no revenue or much operational history. But because of the SPAC boom, and the de-SPAC process, they are now publicly traded companies, leaving investors making bets like venture capitalists on the next Tesla.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“What they are doing is very hard,” said Smith. “Over the next 5 years, there is going to be some remarkable growth for some of these companies. But there will be some that don’t grow and struggle. There is more to be optimistic about with these companies than there was five years ago, because the tech is getting closer to broader adoption. The problem is that the traditional car companies have been getting into it too now and competition is tougher.”</p>\n<p>As a result of some of those issues, no revenue is expected for the rest of the year at Nikola Corp.,Lordstown Motors Corp.&nbsp;and Fisker Inc., &nbsp;with all three companies predicting their first vehicles sometime in 2022, if their current forecasts can be believed.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“I&nbsp;know&nbsp;it&nbsp;sounds&nbsp;like&nbsp;a&nbsp;broken&nbsp;record and it’s boring, but I think in this case, the broken record is quite good to keep on saying that we are on time on the Ocean program and we are on budget,” Fisker co-founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Henrik Fisker told analysts in the company’s earnings call last month.</p>\n<p>Fisker said the company will start production on Nov. 17, 2022, which actually looks good compared with other startups. Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas said in a note that he believes&nbsp;Fisker “may be one of the only EV startups to actually launch on time and ramp efficaciously in late 2022.”</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>These companies, plus Faraday Future Electric Inc.,Canoo Inc.,Lucid Group&nbsp;and the soon to go public Rivian, are among the top funded EV makers in the U.S. But while many have received billions from investors through private funding rounds or SPAC deals&nbsp;–&nbsp;electric truck-maker Rivian has raised $10.5 billion — some are now encountering credibility problems.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>For example, Lordstown — an electric truck-maker which took over a former GM factory in an area of Ohio referred to as Voltage Valley — disclosed in July that its merger deal was being investigated by the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Justice Department, for a variety of matters, including information provided to investors about its pre-orders. Lordstown added a “going concern” warning to regulatory filings and clarified that the orders it had were not binding.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“To do what Tesla did, build a car company from the ground up and all the way through to distribution, that took a phenomenal amount of money,” Smith said. Tesla is now almost 18 years old. After raising $226 million in its 2010 IPO, it has gone back to the capital markets frequently, raising more than $20 billion through secondary stock sales and debt offerings.</p>\n<p>Workhorse Group Inc.,which makes electric “last mile” delivery vans and utility vehicles, also was reported to be the target of an SEC investigation, and Trevor Milton, the founder of Nikola Corp.&nbsp;has been charged with securities fraud in federal court in the Southern District of New York, allegedly for overinflating the developments at the electric truck maker. Milton has stated that he is innocent.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Since EV makers need the same hefty capital investment as other auto makers, investors might be more inclined to favor the established companies making a foray into electrification. Nearly every major auto maker around the globe has some sort of effort today to develop electric vehicles, but in the U.S., Ford Motor appears to be the furthest along, with plans to offer dozens of electrified vehicles, including a truck, sometime in 2022.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>If investors are looking to bet on one of Tesla’s upcoming rivals, the best course may be to pick one of the companies that is actually close to launching a car, like Fisker or Lucid, and then diversify bets on some traditional auto makers. Another option is to look for suppliers, instead of the much more capital-intensive car makers.</p>\n<p>Assad Hussain, mobility analyst at PitchBook, which tracks all aspects of the public and private equity markets, said professional investors are looking beyond the companies making cars to those that are supplying the automakers.</p>\n<p>“A lot of the smart VC money is going into the picks and shovels, not necessarily trying to trying to find the next Tesla,” Hussain said, making an analogy with the pioneers who got rich during the California gold rush of 1849 by providing the supplies, instead of joining the hordes panning for gold in the Sierra foothills.</p>\n<p>One example is a company called Redwood Materials, which is working on recycling lithium ion batteries in both devices and EVs. Redwood was co-founded by JB Straubel, a Tesla co-founder and its CTO for 15 years. Redwood recently raised $700 million from a group of investors, including T. Rowe Price, Amazon.com Inc.&nbsp;and others.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>Recurrent, based in Seattle, was founded just last year and is offering third-party reports on used EV batteries, to help car buyers determine the life of the vehicle. It raised $3.5 million in seed funding&nbsp;late last year.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p>“Maybe the smart thing to do is not look for the next Tesla, but to go out and find an enabling technology,” said Hussain.</p>\n<p>The past century shows that periods of innovation in automobiles eventually settled into a triumvirate of dominant companies.</p>\n<p>Whether that will happen again is anyone’s guess, but the strategies here should help find the safer bets, such as the companies the farthest along, the established auto makers, or look to the most interesting suppliers of this hot arena.</p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>\n<p></p>","source":"lsy1603348471595","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>If there were a ‘Big Three’ of electric vehicle makers, who would join Tesla?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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National Motor even competed in and won the 1912 Indy 500. Sales boomed and it expanded production, but after a merger with Associated Motor Industries in 1922, the company ended up in receivership in 1924. Like hundreds of other early car companies, none of those six Indianapolis players survived.\nInvestors eyeing the electric vehicle space today may have a sense of déjà vu. The huge number of companies, large and small, currently working on electric vehicles or their components is reminiscent of the turn of the 20th century, when companies like National and others experimented with body forms and engine types, from steam-powered to internal combustion to early versions of electric vehicles.\nBy the 1929 stock market crash, there were only about 40 auto makers left, and that number eventually shrunk to where the top companies in the U.S. are referred to as the “Big Three.” Similar shakeouts occurred globally, with Big Threes emerging in other countries, like Japan and Germany.\nOne major difference between then and now, said Brett Smith, director of technology research at the Center for Automotive Research, or CAR, is that 100 years ago, “everybody was starting from scratch—no one had an advantage,” while today, traditional auto makers already know how to build cars and create huge assembly lines.、\n\n\n ‘Over the next 5 years, there is going to be some remarkable growth for some of these companies. But there will be some that don’t grow and struggle. There is more to be optimistic about with these companies than there was five years ago, because the tech is getting closer to broader adoption. The problem is that the traditional car companies have been getting into it too now and competition is tougher.’”\n\n\n — Brett Smith, director, technology research, Center for Automotive Research \n\n\nThe question for investors then is which companies will become the big 3 of EVs?\nThe company with the biggest advantage in electric vehicles today is Tesla Inc. which has finally proved to the world that EVs are the future. As rival startups and legacy automakers seek to emulate its success, investors must ponder which EV companies will succeed and which will disappear.\n\nGlobally, there are hundreds of startups working on some aspect of electric vehicles, from creating the car, to charging station infrastructure, improving the manufacturing process, developing new battery technologies and working on fuel cells. CB Insights of New York said it is tracking more than 700 startups around the world that are active in the space.\n“There seems to be a new one every day,” said Smith of CAR.\nSince February, the shares of many better known startups have lost much of their value because of serious issues, including regulatory inquiries or investigations, class action lawsuits, management tumult and abrupt executive departures. Piling onto these woes — which mainly stem from overpromising and under-delivering — is a semiconductor shortage hampering efforts to get first products out the door.\nSeveral publicly traded EV makers are still technically startup companies, with no revenue or much operational history. But because of the SPAC boom, and the de-SPAC process, they are now publicly traded companies, leaving investors making bets like venture capitalists on the next Tesla.\n\n\n\n“What they are doing is very hard,” said Smith. “Over the next 5 years, there is going to be some remarkable growth for some of these companies. But there will be some that don’t grow and struggle. There is more to be optimistic about with these companies than there was five years ago, because the tech is getting closer to broader adoption. The problem is that the traditional car companies have been getting into it too now and competition is tougher.”\nAs a result of some of those issues, no revenue is expected for the rest of the year at Nikola Corp.,Lordstown Motors Corp. and Fisker Inc.,  with all three companies predicting their first vehicles sometime in 2022, if their current forecasts can be believed.\n\n“I know it sounds like a broken record and it’s boring, but I think in this case, the broken record is quite good to keep on saying that we are on time on the Ocean program and we are on budget,” Fisker co-founder, Chairman and Chief Executive Henrik Fisker told analysts in the company’s earnings call last month.\nFisker said the company will start production on Nov. 17, 2022, which actually looks good compared with other startups. Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas said in a note that he believes Fisker “may be one of the only EV startups to actually launch on time and ramp efficaciously in late 2022.”\n\nThese companies, plus Faraday Future Electric Inc.,Canoo Inc.,Lucid Group and the soon to go public Rivian, are among the top funded EV makers in the U.S. But while many have received billions from investors through private funding rounds or SPAC deals – electric truck-maker Rivian has raised $10.5 billion — some are now encountering credibility problems.\n\nFor example, Lordstown — an electric truck-maker which took over a former GM factory in an area of Ohio referred to as Voltage Valley — disclosed in July that its merger deal was being investigated by the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Justice Department, for a variety of matters, including information provided to investors about its pre-orders. Lordstown added a “going concern” warning to regulatory filings and clarified that the orders it had were not binding.\n\n“To do what Tesla did, build a car company from the ground up and all the way through to distribution, that took a phenomenal amount of money,” Smith said. Tesla is now almost 18 years old. After raising $226 million in its 2010 IPO, it has gone back to the capital markets frequently, raising more than $20 billion through secondary stock sales and debt offerings.\nWorkhorse Group Inc.,which makes electric “last mile” delivery vans and utility vehicles, also was reported to be the target of an SEC investigation, and Trevor Milton, the founder of Nikola Corp. has been charged with securities fraud in federal court in the Southern District of New York, allegedly for overinflating the developments at the electric truck maker. Milton has stated that he is innocent.\n\nSince EV makers need the same hefty capital investment as other auto makers, investors might be more inclined to favor the established companies making a foray into electrification. Nearly every major auto maker around the globe has some sort of effort today to develop electric vehicles, but in the U.S., Ford Motor appears to be the furthest along, with plans to offer dozens of electrified vehicles, including a truck, sometime in 2022.\n\nIf investors are looking to bet on one of Tesla’s upcoming rivals, the best course may be to pick one of the companies that is actually close to launching a car, like Fisker or Lucid, and then diversify bets on some traditional auto makers. Another option is to look for suppliers, instead of the much more capital-intensive car makers.\nAssad Hussain, mobility analyst at PitchBook, which tracks all aspects of the public and private equity markets, said professional investors are looking beyond the companies making cars to those that are supplying the automakers.\n“A lot of the smart VC money is going into the picks and shovels, not necessarily trying to trying to find the next Tesla,” Hussain said, making an analogy with the pioneers who got rich during the California gold rush of 1849 by providing the supplies, instead of joining the hordes panning for gold in the Sierra foothills.\nOne example is a company called Redwood Materials, which is working on recycling lithium ion batteries in both devices and EVs. Redwood was co-founded by JB Straubel, a Tesla co-founder and its CTO for 15 years. Redwood recently raised $700 million from a group of investors, including T. Rowe Price, Amazon.com Inc. and others.\n\nRecurrent, based in Seattle, was founded just last year and is offering third-party reports on used EV batteries, to help car buyers determine the life of the vehicle. It raised $3.5 million in seed funding late last year.\n\n“Maybe the smart thing to do is not look for the next Tesla, but to go out and find an enabling technology,” said Hussain.\nThe past century shows that periods of innovation in automobiles eventually settled into a triumvirate of dominant companies.\nWhether that will happen again is anyone’s guess, but the strategies here should help find the safer bets, such as the companies the farthest along, the established auto makers, or look to the most interesting suppliers of this hot arena.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":303,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":308028144,"gmtCreate":1603804878388,"gmtModify":1705073317780,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$</a>Trying to exit at 425 and buying back at 418.","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$</a>Trying to exit at 425 and buying back at 418.","text":"$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$Trying to exit at 425 and buying back at 418.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":6,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/308028144","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":561,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3527667803686145","authorId":"3527667803686145","name":"社区成长助手","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2b7c7106b5c0c8b0037faa67439d898f","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"content":"Finally, when your initial post [Bixin] [Bixin] comes, I hope you can have a good time and earn a good time in Tiger Community! If you want to create high-quality articles, please checkGuidelines for Tiger Community Creation","text":"Finally, when your initial post [Bixin] [Bixin] comes, I hope you can have a good time and earn a good time in Tiger Community! If you want to create high-quality articles, please checkGuidelines for Tiger Community Creation","html":"Finally, when your initial post [Bixin] [Bixin] comes, I hope you can have a good time and earn a good time in Tiger Community! If you want to create high-quality articles, please checkGuidelines for Tiger Community Creation"}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":176009804,"gmtCreate":1626842030708,"gmtModify":1703766244327,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Tesla’s share price increase was post day closing. Due to announcement of Tesla sharing their super charger access to other EV.&nbsp;Poor poor article again.","listText":"Tesla’s share price increase was post day closing. Due to announcement of Tesla sharing their super charger access to other EV.&nbsp;Poor poor article again.","text":"Tesla’s share price increase was post day closing. Due to announcement of Tesla sharing their super charger access to other EV. Poor poor article again.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":8,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/176009804","repostId":"1128230365","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1128230365","pubTimestamp":1626837921,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1128230365?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-07-21 11:25","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Ignore Jeff Bezos Going to Space. Tesla’s Elon Musk Is the Real Winner","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1128230365","media":"Barrons","summary":"Investors usually want to know what the most important story of the day is, the thing responsible for driving stocks with the potential to become an investing theme that drives returns for months or years.Jeff Bezos going into space is not that thing.Sometimes, that one big thing is obvious. On Monday, it was Covid-19. The S&P 500 dropped 1.6%. The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped more than 2%. And for good reason: The Covid-19 variants are a big deal, even if the market’s drop proves to be ","content":"<p>Investors usually want to know what the most important story of the day is, the thing responsible for driving stocks with the potential to become an investing theme that drives returns for months or years.</p>\n<p>Jeff Bezos&nbsp;going into space is not that thing.</p>\n<p>Sometimes, that one big thing is obvious. On Monday, it was Covid-19. The S&amp;P 500 dropped 1.6%. The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped more than 2%. And for good reason: The Covid-19 variants are a big deal, even if the market’s drop proves to be another blip on the way to higher returns.</p>\n<p>Sometimes, though, investors need to know what they shouldn’t bother to care about, too. Do you know what today’s least significant story is? Amazon.com’s Jeff Bezos going into space.</p>\n<p>The successful flight was a little anti-climactic for livestream watchers. There were a lot of “woohoos” and “awesomes” uttered by the crew, even a few “amazings.” Still, 82-year old newly minted astronaut Wally Funk said “It was only about five minutes.”</p>\n<p>You wouldn’t know it from the coverage, of which I’ve been a big part. I’m addicted to stories about billionaires spending their money, a little like People magazine is addicted to the Kardashians.</p>\n<p>The Kardashian analogy is apt. The billionaire space race is entertainment for investors and little more. It’s the modern equivalent of a huge baroque garden or a Victorian menagerie complete with wild animals from India.</p>\n<p>(The post-launch press conference included its own menagerie of a sort. The New Shepard crew showed off a collection of items carried on the flight including a piece of a Wright brothers plane, a medallion from a 19th-century hot air balloon, and a pair of Amelia Earhart’s flight goggles.)</p>\n<p>Rich people spending money has always been a thing, and sometimes it benefits everyone else. People can still visit the gardens at Versailles. They are impressive, even inspiring.</p>\n<p>Everyone, including Bezos, knows the personal rocket company business is ripe for criticism. The Amazon founder admits critics of space tourism are largely right. Still, space supporters point to the potential benefits of pushing technological boundaries. The world, after all, might end up with superfast commercial jets or flying cars a generation or more down the road.</p>\n<p>But the “to be sure” of the space tourism saga isn’t the potential trickle-down technological benefits from billionaire space dalliances. Long-term technological enhancements are the theoretical reason any mania can be positive for society. The dot.com era, for instance, left us with Amazon (ticker: AMZN) and more widespread internet access.</p>\n<p>Not all manias are so giving though. The Financial Crisis was driven by financial technology—collateralized debt obligations and credit default swaps. No one is thanking their lucky stars for those products. There is no guarantee manias result in useful technology. Just look at the most recent financial innovation of zero-commission trades. It’s given us meme-stocks.</p>\n<p>But if the space race has done anything, it’s made traveling to the stars cheaper than it’s ever been. The Space Shuttle cost about $450 million a mission, according to NASA’s numbers. The orbiter itself—the spacecraft on the back of the rockets—cost about $1.7 billion. Ultimately, a generation of investing in higher-than-average cost space shuttle technology left America with movies such as Space Camp, U.S. taxpayers with a little more debt, and the lack of astronaut carrying domestic space launch capabilities for a decade.</p>\n<p>That’s changed now, but it has little to do with Bezos or Virgin Galactic’s (SPCE)Richard Branson.Instead, space lovers should thank Tesla (TSLA) and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk. He, like other billionaires, has expressed lofty goals to make humanity a multi-planetary species. Musk however isn’t going into space on a tourist flight. He’s the one that brought launch capabilities back to America by pioneering the use of reusable rockets. It is ferrying NASA astronauts to the International Space Station while launching hundreds of small satellites that offer space-based Wi-Fi to clients around the globe. Partly as a result of that decision, SpaceX is worth an estimated $74 billion in private markets.</p>\n<p>Compare that to Virgin Galactic, which is worth about $7 billion after creating what Canaccord analyst Ken Herbert described as “ Disney for the 1% of the 1%.”</p>\n<p>That sounds negative, but Herbert rates Galactic shares Buy. He believes clients should put the stock in their portfolios. And his $48 target price values Galactic at roughly $11.5 billion. There might just be a long-term business in space tourism.</p>\n<p>That illustrates the real “to be sure” of a billionaire space story. If Bezos, or Branson, wants to build an organization to take them to space, so be it. Those are high-paying jobs for bright engineers. Billionaires can do what they want with their money.</p>\n<p>Not even Amazon’s stock seems to care all that much about Bezos’s successful flight. Shares closed up about 0.7% on Tuesday, while stock in Virgin Galactic dropped 1.3%. Tesla stock rose 2.2%, rising for the second consecutive day in the run-up to reporting second-quarter numbers on July 26. The S&amp;P 500 gained 1.5%, rebounding from Monday’s Covid-19 induced selloff.</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Ignore Jeff Bezos Going to Space. 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Tesla’s Elon Musk Is the Real Winner\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-07-21 11:25 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/amazon-jeff-bezos-space-tesla-elon-musk-spacex-51626783483?mod=hp_DAY_Theme_1_2><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Investors usually want to know what the most important story of the day is, the thing responsible for driving stocks with the potential to become an investing theme that drives returns for months or ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/amazon-jeff-bezos-space-tesla-elon-musk-spacex-51626783483?mod=hp_DAY_Theme_1_2\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"SPCE":"维珍银河","TSLA":"特斯拉","AMZN":"亚马逊"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/amazon-jeff-bezos-space-tesla-elon-musk-spacex-51626783483?mod=hp_DAY_Theme_1_2","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1128230365","content_text":"Investors usually want to know what the most important story of the day is, the thing responsible for driving stocks with the potential to become an investing theme that drives returns for months or years.\nJeff Bezos going into space is not that thing.\nSometimes, that one big thing is obvious. On Monday, it was Covid-19. The S&P 500 dropped 1.6%. The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped more than 2%. And for good reason: The Covid-19 variants are a big deal, even if the market’s drop proves to be another blip on the way to higher returns.\nSometimes, though, investors need to know what they shouldn’t bother to care about, too. Do you know what today’s least significant story is? Amazon.com’s Jeff Bezos going into space.\nThe successful flight was a little anti-climactic for livestream watchers. There were a lot of “woohoos” and “awesomes” uttered by the crew, even a few “amazings.” Still, 82-year old newly minted astronaut Wally Funk said “It was only about five minutes.”\nYou wouldn’t know it from the coverage, of which I’ve been a big part. I’m addicted to stories about billionaires spending their money, a little like People magazine is addicted to the Kardashians.\nThe Kardashian analogy is apt. The billionaire space race is entertainment for investors and little more. It’s the modern equivalent of a huge baroque garden or a Victorian menagerie complete with wild animals from India.\n(The post-launch press conference included its own menagerie of a sort. The New Shepard crew showed off a collection of items carried on the flight including a piece of a Wright brothers plane, a medallion from a 19th-century hot air balloon, and a pair of Amelia Earhart’s flight goggles.)\nRich people spending money has always been a thing, and sometimes it benefits everyone else. People can still visit the gardens at Versailles. They are impressive, even inspiring.\nEveryone, including Bezos, knows the personal rocket company business is ripe for criticism. The Amazon founder admits critics of space tourism are largely right. Still, space supporters point to the potential benefits of pushing technological boundaries. The world, after all, might end up with superfast commercial jets or flying cars a generation or more down the road.\nBut the “to be sure” of the space tourism saga isn’t the potential trickle-down technological benefits from billionaire space dalliances. Long-term technological enhancements are the theoretical reason any mania can be positive for society. The dot.com era, for instance, left us with Amazon (ticker: AMZN) and more widespread internet access.\nNot all manias are so giving though. The Financial Crisis was driven by financial technology—collateralized debt obligations and credit default swaps. No one is thanking their lucky stars for those products. There is no guarantee manias result in useful technology. Just look at the most recent financial innovation of zero-commission trades. It’s given us meme-stocks.\nBut if the space race has done anything, it’s made traveling to the stars cheaper than it’s ever been. The Space Shuttle cost about $450 million a mission, according to NASA’s numbers. The orbiter itself—the spacecraft on the back of the rockets—cost about $1.7 billion. Ultimately, a generation of investing in higher-than-average cost space shuttle technology left America with movies such as Space Camp, U.S. taxpayers with a little more debt, and the lack of astronaut carrying domestic space launch capabilities for a decade.\nThat’s changed now, but it has little to do with Bezos or Virgin Galactic’s (SPCE)Richard Branson.Instead, space lovers should thank Tesla (TSLA) and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk. He, like other billionaires, has expressed lofty goals to make humanity a multi-planetary species. Musk however isn’t going into space on a tourist flight. He’s the one that brought launch capabilities back to America by pioneering the use of reusable rockets. It is ferrying NASA astronauts to the International Space Station while launching hundreds of small satellites that offer space-based Wi-Fi to clients around the globe. Partly as a result of that decision, SpaceX is worth an estimated $74 billion in private markets.\nCompare that to Virgin Galactic, which is worth about $7 billion after creating what Canaccord analyst Ken Herbert described as “ Disney for the 1% of the 1%.”\nThat sounds negative, but Herbert rates Galactic shares Buy. He believes clients should put the stock in their portfolios. And his $48 target price values Galactic at roughly $11.5 billion. There might just be a long-term business in space tourism.\nThat illustrates the real “to be sure” of a billionaire space story. If Bezos, or Branson, wants to build an organization to take them to space, so be it. Those are high-paying jobs for bright engineers. Billionaires can do what they want with their money.\nNot even Amazon’s stock seems to care all that much about Bezos’s successful flight. Shares closed up about 0.7% on Tuesday, while stock in Virgin Galactic dropped 1.3%. Tesla stock rose 2.2%, rising for the second consecutive day in the run-up to reporting second-quarter numbers on July 26. The S&P 500 gained 1.5%, rebounding from Monday’s Covid-19 induced selloff.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":712,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":121048524,"gmtCreate":1624446312068,"gmtModify":1703836916080,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Must be joking. Nio had limited proprietary technology and is replying on branding to win customers.Marketing is another cost element which will eat into margin.Within China, it is facing competition from Xpeng, BYD.Very very very tough to win.&nbsp;","listText":"Must be joking. Nio had limited proprietary technology and is replying on branding to win customers.Marketing is another cost element which will eat into margin.Within China, it is facing competition from Xpeng, BYD.Very very very tough to win.&nbsp;","text":"Must be joking. Nio had limited proprietary technology and is replying on branding to win customers.Marketing is another cost element which will eat into margin.Within China, it is facing competition from Xpeng, BYD.Very very very tough to win.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":7,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/121048524","repostId":"1145825451","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1145825451","pubTimestamp":1624433586,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1145825451?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-23 15:33","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Why I Believe NIO Will Beat Out Tesla","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1145825451","media":"InvestorPlace","summary":"The fact that Tesla scrapped its Model S Plaid Plus release is just part of it.Super fans of the latest and greatest high-endTesla, Inc. model received some disappointing news a week ago when CEO Elon Musk abruptly canceled the release of its highly anticipated Model S Plaid Plus with a tweet on June 6.Instead, the company has begun delivering a new Model S Plaid that has only a 390-mile range and 1,020 horsepower, though it still sprints to from 0 to 60 miles per hour in just two seconds.The go","content":"<blockquote>\n <b>The fact that Tesla scrapped its Model S Plaid Plus release is just part of it.</b>\n</blockquote>\n<p>Super fans of the latest and greatest high-end<b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:<b>TSLA</b>) model received some disappointing news a week ago when CEO Elon Musk abruptly canceled the release of its highly anticipated Model S Plaid Plus with a tweet on June 6.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b294a3604c7ba82bd19b3c70be3a4020\" tg-width=\"300\" tg-height=\"169\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\">Source: nrqemi / Shutterstock.com</p>\n<p>Musk wrote there was… “No need, as Plaid is just so good.”</p>\n<p>The Model S Plaid Plus was supposed to be the fastest, most powerful and priciest version of the company’s Model S. Priced at $149,990, it was to feature a range of 520 miles, thanks to its innovative 4680 battery cells, 1,100 horsepower and the ability to speed from 0 to 60 mph in less than two seconds.</p>\n<p>Instead, the company has begun delivering a new Model S Plaid that has only a 390-mile range and 1,020 horsepower, though it still sprints to from 0 to 60 miles per hour in just two seconds.</p>\n<p>As a way to “sugar coat” its flip flop, Tesla said the Model S Plaid is just as fast as the Model S Plaid Plus and $20,000 cheaper. Humm.</p>\n<p>This “bait and switch” has some Tesla fans worried, since they had deposits on the Model S Plaid Plus and wanted the innovative 4680 battery cells that Tesla had been touting as the key to longer range and more power. Essentially, the 4680 battery cells were the latest great Tesla development, since they were the first batteries to also be a structural component that supposedly allowed Tesla to lower the weight of its vehicles.</p>\n<p>Both the company’s Austin and Berlin manufacturing plants now under construction are supposed to also be making the 4680 batteries for new Tesla vehicles. If there is a problem with the engineering associated with utilizing the 4680 batteries or making them a structural component, then Tesla has grossly miscalculated, which is now worrying investors.</p>\n<p>Clearly something happened to delay the 4680 batteries that were supposed to provide Tesla with a competitive and engineering edge. For Tesla’s sake, I hope they figure out the problems associated with their much hyped 4680 battery cells, otherwise concerns about its two new manufacturing plants will emerge, as well as the stock losing more of its “mojo.”</p>\n<p>As someone who owns more than a few high-performance vehicles, I can tell you that the engineering geeks I know do<i>not</i>want to get a new Model S Plaid instead of a Model S Plaid Plus and will likely ask for their deposits back.</p>\n<p>What Tesla did is like Ferrari or Porsche telling its customers that one of their much-hyped new performance models is now not being sold because the base model was just as good! Car fanatics, like myself, like the latest and greatest engineering tidbits, so we would rather cancel our orders versus settle for a base model.</p>\n<p>The good news for Tesla is that its China sales in May resurged to 21,936, up sharply from 11,671 in April. The company’s sales tend to spike at the end of each quarter. For example, Tesla sold 35,478 vehicles in China in March, which was the strongest month ever in China.</p>\n<p>This is raising expectations for very strong China sales in June, especially now that the Model Y is being manufactured in Shanghai. Interestingly, since most Chinese Teslas are now made with iron phosphate batteries, these vehicles have lower range than its lithium cobalt vehicles, but its iron phosphate vehicles are cheaper and now increasingly being exported to Europe.</p>\n<p>However, I’m convinced another electric vehicle (EV) company will eventually displace Tesla as the biggest manufacturer of EVs in China.</p>\n<p><b>Taking Advantage of the EV Revolution’s Profit Potential</b></p>\n<p>I’m talking about&nbsp;<b>Nio, Inc.</b>(NYSE:<b>NIO</b>). The reality is that this company is on the verge of dominating the EV market in China and Hong Kong. It’s why I put NIO on my<b><i>Platinum Growth Club</i></b>Model Portfolio back in February.</p>\n<p>The company boasts that it is the “next-generation car company,” as it designs and manufactures electric vehicles that utilize the latest technologies in connectivity, autonomous driving and artificial intelligence (AI). NIO currently offers an electric seven-seater SUV (ES8) and a five-seater electric SUV (ES6) and recently introduced an attractive electric sedan (ET7). Its vehicles utilize NOMI, an in-vehicle artificial intelligence assistant.</p>\n<p>The company is also partnering with cutting-edge chip companies like<b>NVIDIA Corporation</b>(NASDAQ:<b>NVDA</b>), another one of my<b><i>Platinum Growth Club</i></b>Model Portfolio stocks. NIO plans to use the NVIDIA DRIVE Orin system-on-a-chip for its electric vehicles that will provide autonomous driving capabilities. The NVIDIA DRIVE Orin-powered supercomputer, which is being called Adam, will be launched in the ET7 sedan in China in 2022. Announcements like this are very positive, so NIO has been stealing some of Tesla’s thunder lately.</p>\n<p>Now, it’s important to note that NIO was bailed out by the Chinese government. Last year, the Chinese government injected $1 billion and now has a 24% ownership in the company. The reality is that China wants to dominate at least five major industries by 2025, and NIO is now its ticket to dominate EV manufacturing.</p>\n<p>With the backing of the Chinese government, some Wall Street firms are eager to help NIO by issuing new debt or equity. So, I wouldn’t be surprised if NIO surpasses Tesla, which is currently number-two in China, for market share in the upcoming years.</p>\n<p>That means, if you missed Tesla’s parabolic run like I did, NIO is essentially giving us a “second chance” to make money in a potentially explosive electric vehicle company.</p>\n<p>Shares of NIO climbed nearly 13% since the company’s June 4 announcement of its May delivery report and positive analyst comments, while Tesla shares rose almost 3%. First, NIO revealed that the global chip shortage is starting to take a toll on its business. NIO only delivered 6,711 vehicles in May, or a 5.5% decline from April’s deliveries. Company management noted that deliveries were “adversely impacted for several days due to the volatility of semiconductor supply and certain logistical adjustments.”</p>\n<p>Interestingly, despite the month-to-month dip, NIO’s deliveries were still up 95.3% year-over-year. Strong demand in China even inspired a Citigroup analyst to upgrade NIO to a buy rating, as he expects demand to accelerate in the coming months.</p>\n<p>In other words, NIO represents the<b>crème de la crème</b>of EV stocks right now.</p>","source":"lsy1606302653667","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why I Believe NIO Will Beat Out Tesla</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhy I Believe NIO Will Beat Out Tesla\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-23 15:33 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://investorplace.com/2021/06/why-i-believe-nio-will-beat-out-tesla/><strong>InvestorPlace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>The fact that Tesla scrapped its Model S Plaid Plus release is just part of it.\n\nSuper fans of the latest and greatest high-endTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) model received some disappointing news a week ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2021/06/why-i-believe-nio-will-beat-out-tesla/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","NIO":"蔚来"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2021/06/why-i-believe-nio-will-beat-out-tesla/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1145825451","content_text":"The fact that Tesla scrapped its Model S Plaid Plus release is just part of it.\n\nSuper fans of the latest and greatest high-endTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) model received some disappointing news a week ago when CEO Elon Musk abruptly canceled the release of its highly anticipated Model S Plaid Plus with a tweet on June 6.\nSource: nrqemi / Shutterstock.com\nMusk wrote there was… “No need, as Plaid is just so good.”\nThe Model S Plaid Plus was supposed to be the fastest, most powerful and priciest version of the company’s Model S. Priced at $149,990, it was to feature a range of 520 miles, thanks to its innovative 4680 battery cells, 1,100 horsepower and the ability to speed from 0 to 60 mph in less than two seconds.\nInstead, the company has begun delivering a new Model S Plaid that has only a 390-mile range and 1,020 horsepower, though it still sprints to from 0 to 60 miles per hour in just two seconds.\nAs a way to “sugar coat” its flip flop, Tesla said the Model S Plaid is just as fast as the Model S Plaid Plus and $20,000 cheaper. Humm.\nThis “bait and switch” has some Tesla fans worried, since they had deposits on the Model S Plaid Plus and wanted the innovative 4680 battery cells that Tesla had been touting as the key to longer range and more power. Essentially, the 4680 battery cells were the latest great Tesla development, since they were the first batteries to also be a structural component that supposedly allowed Tesla to lower the weight of its vehicles.\nBoth the company’s Austin and Berlin manufacturing plants now under construction are supposed to also be making the 4680 batteries for new Tesla vehicles. If there is a problem with the engineering associated with utilizing the 4680 batteries or making them a structural component, then Tesla has grossly miscalculated, which is now worrying investors.\nClearly something happened to delay the 4680 batteries that were supposed to provide Tesla with a competitive and engineering edge. For Tesla’s sake, I hope they figure out the problems associated with their much hyped 4680 battery cells, otherwise concerns about its two new manufacturing plants will emerge, as well as the stock losing more of its “mojo.”\nAs someone who owns more than a few high-performance vehicles, I can tell you that the engineering geeks I know donotwant to get a new Model S Plaid instead of a Model S Plaid Plus and will likely ask for their deposits back.\nWhat Tesla did is like Ferrari or Porsche telling its customers that one of their much-hyped new performance models is now not being sold because the base model was just as good! Car fanatics, like myself, like the latest and greatest engineering tidbits, so we would rather cancel our orders versus settle for a base model.\nThe good news for Tesla is that its China sales in May resurged to 21,936, up sharply from 11,671 in April. The company’s sales tend to spike at the end of each quarter. For example, Tesla sold 35,478 vehicles in China in March, which was the strongest month ever in China.\nThis is raising expectations for very strong China sales in June, especially now that the Model Y is being manufactured in Shanghai. Interestingly, since most Chinese Teslas are now made with iron phosphate batteries, these vehicles have lower range than its lithium cobalt vehicles, but its iron phosphate vehicles are cheaper and now increasingly being exported to Europe.\nHowever, I’m convinced another electric vehicle (EV) company will eventually displace Tesla as the biggest manufacturer of EVs in China.\nTaking Advantage of the EV Revolution’s Profit Potential\nI’m talking about Nio, Inc.(NYSE:NIO). The reality is that this company is on the verge of dominating the EV market in China and Hong Kong. It’s why I put NIO on myPlatinum Growth ClubModel Portfolio back in February.\nThe company boasts that it is the “next-generation car company,” as it designs and manufactures electric vehicles that utilize the latest technologies in connectivity, autonomous driving and artificial intelligence (AI). NIO currently offers an electric seven-seater SUV (ES8) and a five-seater electric SUV (ES6) and recently introduced an attractive electric sedan (ET7). Its vehicles utilize NOMI, an in-vehicle artificial intelligence assistant.\nThe company is also partnering with cutting-edge chip companies likeNVIDIA Corporation(NASDAQ:NVDA), another one of myPlatinum Growth ClubModel Portfolio stocks. NIO plans to use the NVIDIA DRIVE Orin system-on-a-chip for its electric vehicles that will provide autonomous driving capabilities. The NVIDIA DRIVE Orin-powered supercomputer, which is being called Adam, will be launched in the ET7 sedan in China in 2022. Announcements like this are very positive, so NIO has been stealing some of Tesla’s thunder lately.\nNow, it’s important to note that NIO was bailed out by the Chinese government. Last year, the Chinese government injected $1 billion and now has a 24% ownership in the company. The reality is that China wants to dominate at least five major industries by 2025, and NIO is now its ticket to dominate EV manufacturing.\nWith the backing of the Chinese government, some Wall Street firms are eager to help NIO by issuing new debt or equity. So, I wouldn’t be surprised if NIO surpasses Tesla, which is currently number-two in China, for market share in the upcoming years.\nThat means, if you missed Tesla’s parabolic run like I did, NIO is essentially giving us a “second chance” to make money in a potentially explosive electric vehicle company.\nShares of NIO climbed nearly 13% since the company’s June 4 announcement of its May delivery report and positive analyst comments, while Tesla shares rose almost 3%. First, NIO revealed that the global chip shortage is starting to take a toll on its business. NIO only delivered 6,711 vehicles in May, or a 5.5% decline from April’s deliveries. Company management noted that deliveries were “adversely impacted for several days due to the volatility of semiconductor supply and certain logistical adjustments.”\nInterestingly, despite the month-to-month dip, NIO’s deliveries were still up 95.3% year-over-year. Strong demand in China even inspired a Citigroup analyst to upgrade NIO to a buy rating, as he expects demand to accelerate in the coming months.\nIn other words, NIO represents thecrème de la crèmeof EV stocks right now.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":401,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":152024005,"gmtCreate":1625243571507,"gmtModify":1703739363418,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"The catalyst seems to be FSD. Hopefully soon.","listText":"The catalyst seems to be FSD. Hopefully soon.","text":"The catalyst seems to be FSD. Hopefully soon.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/152024005","repostId":"1150773953","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1150773953","pubTimestamp":1625238037,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1150773953?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-07-02 23:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Reported Record Deliveries. Why That's Not Good Enough.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1150773953","media":"Barrons","summary":"Electric vehicle pioneer Tesla delivered 201,250 cars in the second quarter, above the 200,000 level that would have signaled a major disappointment. They don’t look good enough to lift the stock materially, however.The line in the sand for Tesla  investors was about 200,000 deliveries. More than that should have been good for the stock. Less would have been bad. That means the second-quarter number qualifies as a minor “beat” versus investor expectations.Tesla shares were down 0.3% at $675.68 i","content":"<p>Electric vehicle pioneer Tesla delivered 201,250 cars in the second quarter, above the 200,000 level that would have signaled a major disappointment. They don’t look good enough to lift the stock materially, however.</p>\n<p>The line in the sand for Tesla (ticker: TSLA) investors was about 200,000 deliveries. More than that should have been good for the stock. Less would have been bad. That means the second-quarter number qualifies as a minor “beat” versus investor expectations.</p>\n<p>Tesla shares were down 0.3% at $675.68 in premarket trading.S&amp;P 500&nbsp;and&nbsp;Dow Jones Industrial Average&nbsp;futures were up 0.2%. Shares higher, however in early trading Friday, up about 1.7%. The S&amp;P 500 is 0.3% higher.</p>\n<p>Still, the second-quarter number is another quarterly record. Tesla&nbsp;delivered about 185,000 vehicles&nbsp;in the first quarter of 2021, compared with 181,000 in the fourth quarter of 2020 and about 88,000 vehicles in the first quarter of 2020. Growth is continuing, but with full-year expectations for about 865,000 deliveries for 2021, investors likely expected stronger growth.</p>\n<p>Tesla needs to deliver roughly 475,000 vehicles in the second half to hit Wall Street expectations. Tesla produced more than 206,000 vehicles in the second quarter, up from about 180,000 in the first quarter.</p>\n<p>Tesla doesn’t have formal guidance for full-year 2021 deliveries. Tesla expects to grow faster than 50% in 2021. The company delivered about 500,000 vehicles in 2020.</p>\n<p>The number doesn’t look like a big enough surprise to shake up Tesla stock, which has had an interesting year. Shares are down about 5% in the first quarter of the year, closing at roughly $668 a share. Shares traded above $900 in January. Shares gained about 2% in the second quarter, closing at about $680.</p>\n<p>Coming into Friday, shares are down a little year to date, trailing behind comparable gains of the overall market as well as many other automotive stocks that have benefited from the global economic recovery which is boosting auto sales.</p>\n<p>Many things impacted Tesla stock including&nbsp;rising interest rates—which hurts high growth stocks such as Tesla more than slow growth stocks such as traditional auto makers—and a&nbsp;semiconductor shortage&nbsp;that constrained auto production around the globe. It took a while for investors to adjust to those factors, as well as others, and for Tesla stock to bounce off recent lows.</p>\n<p>Chinese EV makers&nbsp;NIO(NIO) and&nbsp;XPeng(XPEV) also reported&nbsp;strong June deliveries. NIO stock opened higher Thursday and closed down 4.3%. XPeng shares opened higher as well and closed down 1.7%. Both stocks had a strong run in June. Investors appear to have sold on news.</p>\n<p>It looks like they may do the same with Tesla.</p>\n<p>Bullish investors have been&nbsp;waiting for a new catalyst&nbsp;to drive the stock out of its recent range. Second quarter deliveries could have been the catalyst, but they will probably be seen by the Street, and investors, as good and not great.</p>\n<p>Looking ahead, investors have new production coming from Texas and Germany to look forward to. That should happen close to the end of 2021. Tesla is also expected to offer its higher level of driver assistance software, dubbed&nbsp;Full Self Driving, on a subscription basis soon. The uptake of that product will be another thing closely watched by investors.</p>\n<p>Another potential catalyst for investors will be second quarter earnings which should be reported in late July. Wall Street projects about 95 cents in per share earnings from $11.3 billion in sales. Tesla earned 93 cents a share in the first quarter of 2021. Based on deliveries numbers look achievable, but factors such as regulatory credit sales always can impact Tesla’s bottom line number.</p>\n<p>Tesla earns and sells&nbsp;regulatory credits&nbsp;around the globe by making more than its fair share of zero emission vehicles.</p>\n<p></p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Reported Record Deliveries. 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Why That's Not Good Enough.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-07-02 23:00 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-deliveries-stock-51625230475?mod=hp_LATEST><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Electric vehicle pioneer Tesla delivered 201,250 cars in the second quarter, above the 200,000 level that would have signaled a major disappointment. They don’t look good enough to lift the stock ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-deliveries-stock-51625230475?mod=hp_LATEST\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-deliveries-stock-51625230475?mod=hp_LATEST","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1150773953","content_text":"Electric vehicle pioneer Tesla delivered 201,250 cars in the second quarter, above the 200,000 level that would have signaled a major disappointment. They don’t look good enough to lift the stock materially, however.\nThe line in the sand for Tesla (ticker: TSLA) investors was about 200,000 deliveries. More than that should have been good for the stock. Less would have been bad. That means the second-quarter number qualifies as a minor “beat” versus investor expectations.\nTesla shares were down 0.3% at $675.68 in premarket trading.S&P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average futures were up 0.2%. Shares higher, however in early trading Friday, up about 1.7%. The S&P 500 is 0.3% higher.\nStill, the second-quarter number is another quarterly record. Tesla delivered about 185,000 vehicles in the first quarter of 2021, compared with 181,000 in the fourth quarter of 2020 and about 88,000 vehicles in the first quarter of 2020. Growth is continuing, but with full-year expectations for about 865,000 deliveries for 2021, investors likely expected stronger growth.\nTesla needs to deliver roughly 475,000 vehicles in the second half to hit Wall Street expectations. Tesla produced more than 206,000 vehicles in the second quarter, up from about 180,000 in the first quarter.\nTesla doesn’t have formal guidance for full-year 2021 deliveries. Tesla expects to grow faster than 50% in 2021. The company delivered about 500,000 vehicles in 2020.\nThe number doesn’t look like a big enough surprise to shake up Tesla stock, which has had an interesting year. Shares are down about 5% in the first quarter of the year, closing at roughly $668 a share. Shares traded above $900 in January. Shares gained about 2% in the second quarter, closing at about $680.\nComing into Friday, shares are down a little year to date, trailing behind comparable gains of the overall market as well as many other automotive stocks that have benefited from the global economic recovery which is boosting auto sales.\nMany things impacted Tesla stock including rising interest rates—which hurts high growth stocks such as Tesla more than slow growth stocks such as traditional auto makers—and a semiconductor shortage that constrained auto production around the globe. It took a while for investors to adjust to those factors, as well as others, and for Tesla stock to bounce off recent lows.\nChinese EV makers NIO(NIO) and XPeng(XPEV) also reported strong June deliveries. NIO stock opened higher Thursday and closed down 4.3%. XPeng shares opened higher as well and closed down 1.7%. Both stocks had a strong run in June. Investors appear to have sold on news.\nIt looks like they may do the same with Tesla.\nBullish investors have been waiting for a new catalyst to drive the stock out of its recent range. Second quarter deliveries could have been the catalyst, but they will probably be seen by the Street, and investors, as good and not great.\nLooking ahead, investors have new production coming from Texas and Germany to look forward to. That should happen close to the end of 2021. Tesla is also expected to offer its higher level of driver assistance software, dubbed Full Self Driving, on a subscription basis soon. The uptake of that product will be another thing closely watched by investors.\nAnother potential catalyst for investors will be second quarter earnings which should be reported in late July. Wall Street projects about 95 cents in per share earnings from $11.3 billion in sales. Tesla earned 93 cents a share in the first quarter of 2021. Based on deliveries numbers look achievable, but factors such as regulatory credit sales always can impact Tesla’s bottom line number.\nTesla earns and sells regulatory credits around the globe by making more than its fair share of zero emission vehicles.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":429,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":122654039,"gmtCreate":1624619176121,"gmtModify":1703841858580,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Poor poor article. Picking and choosing data point to validate a specific view. A more balanced articlewould be to examine the strength and weakness of the company vs the valuation they are now commanding.","listText":"Poor poor article. Picking and choosing data point to validate a specific view. A more balanced articlewould be to examine the strength and weakness of the company vs the valuation they are now commanding.","text":"Poor poor article. Picking and choosing data point to validate a specific view. A more balanced articlewould be to examine the strength and weakness of the company vs the valuation they are now commanding.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/122654039","repostId":"1116076888","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1116076888","pubTimestamp":1624612129,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1116076888?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-25 17:08","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Why Tesla stock is getting left in Ford's and GM's dust","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1116076888","media":"cnn","summary":"New York Tesla had a stellar 2020: The electric car maker was added to the S&P 500 and the stock surged an electrifying 743%. But some investors have pulled the plug on the company lately.Tesla  shares are nearly 25% below their all-time high set earlier in the year, and down 2% for 2021 to date -— a time when traditional automakers are surging as they ramp up electric vehicle ambitions.It seems investors are a bit infatuated with these legacy Big 3 automakers as they look to rapidly expand thei","content":"<p>New York (CNN Business)Tesla had a stellar 2020: The electric car maker was added to the S&amp;P 500 and the stock surged an electrifying 743%. But some investors have pulled the plug on the company lately.</p>\n<p>Tesla (TSLA) shares are nearly 25% below their all-time high set earlier in the year, and down 2% for 2021 to date -— a time when traditional automakers are surging as they ramp up electric vehicle ambitions.</p>\n<p>Ford (F) stock is up nearly 75%, putting it in the top 10 of the S&amp;P 500 in 2021. The company unveiled its electric F-150 Lightning truck last month and also told investors that it now expects electric vehicles to account for 40% of global sales by 2030.</p>\n<p>And GM (GM) is up more than 40% as well. The Chevrolet, Buick and Cadillac maker said this month that it's looking to spend a whopping $35 billion on EVs by 2025.</p>\n<p>It seems investors are a bit infatuated with these legacy Big 3 automakers as they look to rapidly expand their electric car offerings to catch up with Tesla.</p>\n<p>Tesla is still growing incredibly quickly. Analysts expect earnings per share to more than double this year and increase at an average rate of about 45% annually over the next few years.</p>\n<p>Yet Tesla is one of the most polarizing stocks on Wall Street.</p>\n<p>According to Refinitiv, 14 analysts have the stock rated a \"buy,\" 13 a \"hold\" and 10 a \"sell.\" Contrast that with GM, which has 20 buy ratings, two holds and no sells.</p>\n<p><b>Skeptics have many questions about Tesla and Musk</b></p>\n<p>The consensus target price for Tesla stock from analysts is $652, about 6% lower than its current price.</p>\n<p>Tesla critics have a pile of worries to point to. A notable short seller who was featured in \"The Big Short\" is betting against the company. Concerns about Tesla's management bench sprung up after longtime executive Jerome Guillen abruptly left earlier this month — especially since CEO Elon Musk is also busy running SpaceX.</p>\n<p>And Musk's obsession with bitcoin and dogecoin, along with other extracurricular activities like hosting Saturday Night Live and constantly tweeting, might be a turnoff for some investors and analysts.</p>\n<p>Still, there is no denying that the company has plenty of ardent fans, and its vehicles have grabbed plenty of positive headlines this week alone.</p>\n<p>For example, Cars.com (CARS) announced earlier this week that Tesla's Model 3 was ranked first in its American-Made Index, which measures how much a vehicle contributes to the US economy based on factors such as domestic factory jobs, manufacturing plants and parts sourcing.</p>\n<p>The Model 3 edged out Ford's Mustang for the top spot, and Tesla's Model Y also ranked third on the list. Shares of Tesla rallied more than 5% Wednesday following the news.</p>\n<p>The stock gained even more ground Thursday after Musk tweeted the night before that Tesla investors might get preferential treatment to buy shares of SpaceX-owned Starlink if SpaceX eventually decides to spin off the satellite internet service in a few years.</p>\n<p>So even though Tesla's stock is still in the red this year, shares have quickly clawed back much of their 2021 losses after a more than 12% surge in the past five days.</p>\n<p>Tesla is nothing if not volatile.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Why Tesla stock is getting left in Ford's and GM's dust</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWhy Tesla stock is getting left in Ford's and GM's dust\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-25 17:08 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/24/investing/tesla-stock-ford-gm/index.html><strong>cnn</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>New York (CNN Business)Tesla had a stellar 2020: The electric car maker was added to the S&P 500 and the stock surged an electrifying 743%. But some investors have pulled the plug on the company ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/24/investing/tesla-stock-ford-gm/index.html\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/24/investing/tesla-stock-ford-gm/index.html","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1116076888","content_text":"New York (CNN Business)Tesla had a stellar 2020: The electric car maker was added to the S&P 500 and the stock surged an electrifying 743%. But some investors have pulled the plug on the company lately.\nTesla (TSLA) shares are nearly 25% below their all-time high set earlier in the year, and down 2% for 2021 to date -— a time when traditional automakers are surging as they ramp up electric vehicle ambitions.\nFord (F) stock is up nearly 75%, putting it in the top 10 of the S&P 500 in 2021. The company unveiled its electric F-150 Lightning truck last month and also told investors that it now expects electric vehicles to account for 40% of global sales by 2030.\nAnd GM (GM) is up more than 40% as well. The Chevrolet, Buick and Cadillac maker said this month that it's looking to spend a whopping $35 billion on EVs by 2025.\nIt seems investors are a bit infatuated with these legacy Big 3 automakers as they look to rapidly expand their electric car offerings to catch up with Tesla.\nTesla is still growing incredibly quickly. Analysts expect earnings per share to more than double this year and increase at an average rate of about 45% annually over the next few years.\nYet Tesla is one of the most polarizing stocks on Wall Street.\nAccording to Refinitiv, 14 analysts have the stock rated a \"buy,\" 13 a \"hold\" and 10 a \"sell.\" Contrast that with GM, which has 20 buy ratings, two holds and no sells.\nSkeptics have many questions about Tesla and Musk\nThe consensus target price for Tesla stock from analysts is $652, about 6% lower than its current price.\nTesla critics have a pile of worries to point to. A notable short seller who was featured in \"The Big Short\" is betting against the company. Concerns about Tesla's management bench sprung up after longtime executive Jerome Guillen abruptly left earlier this month — especially since CEO Elon Musk is also busy running SpaceX.\nAnd Musk's obsession with bitcoin and dogecoin, along with other extracurricular activities like hosting Saturday Night Live and constantly tweeting, might be a turnoff for some investors and analysts.\nStill, there is no denying that the company has plenty of ardent fans, and its vehicles have grabbed plenty of positive headlines this week alone.\nFor example, Cars.com (CARS) announced earlier this week that Tesla's Model 3 was ranked first in its American-Made Index, which measures how much a vehicle contributes to the US economy based on factors such as domestic factory jobs, manufacturing plants and parts sourcing.\nThe Model 3 edged out Ford's Mustang for the top spot, and Tesla's Model Y also ranked third on the list. Shares of Tesla rallied more than 5% Wednesday following the news.\nThe stock gained even more ground Thursday after Musk tweeted the night before that Tesla investors might get preferential treatment to buy shares of SpaceX-owned Starlink if SpaceX eventually decides to spin off the satellite internet service in a few years.\nSo even though Tesla's stock is still in the red this year, shares have quickly clawed back much of their 2021 losses after a more than 12% surge in the past five days.\nTesla is nothing if not volatile.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":259,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":129199398,"gmtCreate":1624363285914,"gmtModify":1703834403802,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"So much noise. Stay calm and invest in companies with strong fundamentals.","listText":"So much noise. Stay calm and invest in companies with strong fundamentals.","text":"So much noise. Stay calm and invest in companies with strong fundamentals.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/129199398","repostId":"1177499959","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":417,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":363235860,"gmtCreate":1614140875850,"gmtModify":1704888639287,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"I cannot take any report as serious if they choose to interview Gordon Johnson. He has been a super bear on Tesla since 10 years ago. His analysis is biased and off point.Elon Musks has communicated that they had cancelled standard range&nbsp;Model Y as the range was tooLow.&nbsp;Shame on CNN in issuing such a poor report.","listText":"I cannot take any report as serious if they choose to interview Gordon Johnson. He has been a super bear on Tesla since 10 years ago. His analysis is biased and off point.Elon Musks has communicated that they had cancelled standard range&nbsp;Model Y as the range was tooLow.&nbsp;Shame on CNN in issuing such a poor report.","text":"I cannot take any report as serious if they choose to interview Gordon Johnson. He has been a super bear on Tesla since 10 years ago. His analysis is biased and off point.Elon Musks has communicated that they had cancelled standard range Model Y as the range was tooLow. Shame on CNN in issuing such a poor report.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/363235860","repostId":"1106446066","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1106446066","pubTimestamp":1614133758,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1106446066?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-02-24 10:29","market":"us","language":"en","title":"4 reasons Tesla's stock is tumbling","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1106446066","media":"CNN Business","summary":"New York (CNN Business) - Tesla, the hottest stock in the market for more than a year, has sunk into","content":"<p><b>New York (CNN Business)&nbsp;-&nbsp;</b>Tesla, the&nbsp;hottest stock&nbsp;in the market for more than a year, has sunk into bear market territory.</p>\n<p>Shares of&nbsp;Tesla&nbsp;fell 6% Tuesday after closing down 8.5% Monday, wiping out its gains for the year. The stock closed at a record just above $883 on January 26 and has tumbled since. It fell low as $619 Tuesday, the first time Tesla shares have fallen below $700 since December 31.</p>\n<p>The steep decline has taken Tesla shares below their level when the company&nbsp;entered the S&amp;P 500&nbsp;on December 21. It also knocked CEO Elon Musk into the No. 2 position in the&nbsp;richest person on the planet&nbsp;list, behind&nbsp;Amazon&nbsp;founder Jeff Bezos. The two have been&nbsp;swapping positions&nbsp;repeatedly this year.</p>\n<p>Tesla's stock is selling off for several reasons:</p>\n<p><b>Bitcoin</b></p>\n<p>Tesla announced earlier this month that it had&nbsp;invested $1.5 billion in bitcoin. That helped feed the&nbsp;recent rally in bitcoin&nbsp;and by some estimates earned Tesla a quick $1 billion profit — more than it has ever made from selling cars in a single year.</p>\n<p>But on Saturday, in response to a critic of Tesla's bitcoin investment, Musk&nbsp;tweeted&nbsp;that the prices of both bitcoin and another cryptocurrency called Ether \"do seem high.\" That&nbsp;helped to send the price&nbsp;of&nbsp;bitcoin&nbsp;down 9.3% in trading Monday, which may have helped to drag down Tesla shares.</p>\n<p>\"Bitcoin is the smart move at the right time for Tesla in our opinion, but on the downside its playing with firecrackers and risks and volatility are added to the Tesla story,\" said Daniel Ives, tech analyst for Wedbush Securities, who remains bullish on Tesla shares.</p>\n<p><b>Model Y pricing</b></p>\n<p>Last Thursday, Tesla cut the price of the cheapest version of its Model Y and its best-selling Model 3 cars by $2,000 each. That brought the price for the \"standard range\" Model Y, one that can travel 244 miles on a charge, to $38,490 -- and the standard range Model 3 to $34,590.</p>\n<p>But over the weekend, the cheapest \"standard range\" version of the Model Y disappeared from Tesla's sales site, leaving only the more expensive long-range and performance versions of the SUV. Tesla did not explain its decision.</p>\n<p>\"We see the plausible reasons as either: the mix was skewed too much to the cheaper variant, and thus it was going to kill their margins, or more likely there just wasn't much demand for the lower variant,\" said Gordon Johnson of GLJ Research, one of the more bearish critics on Tesla shares. He said the recent price cuts and other price cuts show that Tesla vehicles do not have the demand that its fans claim.</p>\n<p>\"Tesla can't keep its current factories running at capacity without ... price cuts,\" said Johnson in note on Monday.</p>\n<p><b>Increased competition</b></p>\n<p>Established automakers have recently set ambitious targets for their own EV sales.</p>\n<p>General Motors&nbsp;rolled out an SUV version of its&nbsp;Chevrolet Bolt&nbsp;a week ago, priced well below the Model Y, and announced it intends to sell only&nbsp;emissions-free cars&nbsp;after 2035.Ford&nbsp;set an even more&nbsp;ambitious EV target for its European sales, saying all of the car models it sells there will be EVs by 2030.</p>\n<p>Apple&nbsp;is also considering partnering with an automaker toget into the car business, according to several news reports.</p>\n<p>Those efforts are making some Tesla investors nervous, said Ives, although he believes there will be enough of a shift to EVs for multiple winners among global automakers.</p>\n<p><b>Investors got ahead of themselves</b></p>\n<p>Tesla shares peaked one day before a disappointing earnings report on January 27 that fell&nbsp;short of forecasts from Wall Street analysts.</p>\n<p>The earnings showed that the money Tesla made from the&nbsp;sale of regulatory credits&nbsp;to other automakers outpaced its overall net income. Critics, like Johnson, said it's proof Tesla isn't able to make money building and selling cars (although by some other profit measures Tesla is profitable).</p>\n<p>During the earnings conference call on January 27, Musk also spoke about a shortage of batteries needed to power electric vehicles. He said that even with Tesla's own in-house supply of batteries and its planned expansion of battery production, the company is scrambling to find the batteries it wants to build more vehicles.</p>\n<p>\"The fundamental limit on electric vehicles right now, in general, is total availability of [battery] cells,\" he said. For example, Musk said Tesla would have already started producing a semi-tractor if it had the batteries available to do so.</p>\n<p><b>Shares are still way up</b></p>\n<p>Tesla shares rose a market-leading 743% in 2020, as investors embraced the idea that the future of the auto industry would be electric. Tesla remains by far the most valuable automaker in the world, with a market value well above that of the eight largest automakers combined.</p>\n<p>Even with the recent decline. Tesla shares are up about 1,300% since October 2019, when it reported a third-quarter&nbsp;profit that surprised investors, sending shares on a tear.</p>\n<p>Some investors believe Tesla's stock flew too high. Yet many analysts believe Tesla will bounce back. Ives has a 12-month target price of $950.</p>\n<p>Even so, he has a warning: \"It's 'buckle up the seat belt time' again for Tesla's stock with more volatility on the horizon,\" Ives said.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>4 reasons Tesla's stock is tumbling</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\n4 reasons Tesla's stock is tumbling\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-02-24 10:29 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/23/investing/tesla-shares-bear-market/index.html><strong>CNN Business</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>New York (CNN Business) - Tesla, the hottest stock in the market for more than a year, has sunk into bear market territory.\nShares of Tesla fell 6% Tuesday after closing down 8.5% Monday, wiping out ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/23/investing/tesla-shares-bear-market/index.html\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/23/investing/tesla-shares-bear-market/index.html","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1106446066","content_text":"New York (CNN Business) - Tesla, the hottest stock in the market for more than a year, has sunk into bear market territory.\nShares of Tesla fell 6% Tuesday after closing down 8.5% Monday, wiping out its gains for the year. The stock closed at a record just above $883 on January 26 and has tumbled since. It fell low as $619 Tuesday, the first time Tesla shares have fallen below $700 since December 31.\nThe steep decline has taken Tesla shares below their level when the company entered the S&P 500 on December 21. It also knocked CEO Elon Musk into the No. 2 position in the richest person on the planet list, behind Amazon founder Jeff Bezos. The two have been swapping positions repeatedly this year.\nTesla's stock is selling off for several reasons:\nBitcoin\nTesla announced earlier this month that it had invested $1.5 billion in bitcoin. That helped feed the recent rally in bitcoin and by some estimates earned Tesla a quick $1 billion profit — more than it has ever made from selling cars in a single year.\nBut on Saturday, in response to a critic of Tesla's bitcoin investment, Musk tweeted that the prices of both bitcoin and another cryptocurrency called Ether \"do seem high.\" That helped to send the price of bitcoin down 9.3% in trading Monday, which may have helped to drag down Tesla shares.\n\"Bitcoin is the smart move at the right time for Tesla in our opinion, but on the downside its playing with firecrackers and risks and volatility are added to the Tesla story,\" said Daniel Ives, tech analyst for Wedbush Securities, who remains bullish on Tesla shares.\nModel Y pricing\nLast Thursday, Tesla cut the price of the cheapest version of its Model Y and its best-selling Model 3 cars by $2,000 each. That brought the price for the \"standard range\" Model Y, one that can travel 244 miles on a charge, to $38,490 -- and the standard range Model 3 to $34,590.\nBut over the weekend, the cheapest \"standard range\" version of the Model Y disappeared from Tesla's sales site, leaving only the more expensive long-range and performance versions of the SUV. Tesla did not explain its decision.\n\"We see the plausible reasons as either: the mix was skewed too much to the cheaper variant, and thus it was going to kill their margins, or more likely there just wasn't much demand for the lower variant,\" said Gordon Johnson of GLJ Research, one of the more bearish critics on Tesla shares. He said the recent price cuts and other price cuts show that Tesla vehicles do not have the demand that its fans claim.\n\"Tesla can't keep its current factories running at capacity without ... price cuts,\" said Johnson in note on Monday.\nIncreased competition\nEstablished automakers have recently set ambitious targets for their own EV sales.\nGeneral Motors rolled out an SUV version of its Chevrolet Bolt a week ago, priced well below the Model Y, and announced it intends to sell only emissions-free cars after 2035.Ford set an even more ambitious EV target for its European sales, saying all of the car models it sells there will be EVs by 2030.\nApple is also considering partnering with an automaker toget into the car business, according to several news reports.\nThose efforts are making some Tesla investors nervous, said Ives, although he believes there will be enough of a shift to EVs for multiple winners among global automakers.\nInvestors got ahead of themselves\nTesla shares peaked one day before a disappointing earnings report on January 27 that fell short of forecasts from Wall Street analysts.\nThe earnings showed that the money Tesla made from the sale of regulatory credits to other automakers outpaced its overall net income. Critics, like Johnson, said it's proof Tesla isn't able to make money building and selling cars (although by some other profit measures Tesla is profitable).\nDuring the earnings conference call on January 27, Musk also spoke about a shortage of batteries needed to power electric vehicles. He said that even with Tesla's own in-house supply of batteries and its planned expansion of battery production, the company is scrambling to find the batteries it wants to build more vehicles.\n\"The fundamental limit on electric vehicles right now, in general, is total availability of [battery] cells,\" he said. For example, Musk said Tesla would have already started producing a semi-tractor if it had the batteries available to do so.\nShares are still way up\nTesla shares rose a market-leading 743% in 2020, as investors embraced the idea that the future of the auto industry would be electric. Tesla remains by far the most valuable automaker in the world, with a market value well above that of the eight largest automakers combined.\nEven with the recent decline. Tesla shares are up about 1,300% since October 2019, when it reported a third-quarter profit that surprised investors, sending shares on a tear.\nSome investors believe Tesla's stock flew too high. Yet many analysts believe Tesla will bounce back. Ives has a 12-month target price of $950.\nEven so, he has a warning: \"It's 'buckle up the seat belt time' again for Tesla's stock with more volatility on the horizon,\" Ives said.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":0,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[{"author":{"id":"3573453631833460","authorId":"3573453631833460","name":"jiraiya自来也","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c5b5826a50d61b77ced4fbb0c8220737","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"content":"such a good review, i didn't know about that Gordon Johnson until today you mentioned him. Gonna buy the dip now.","text":"such a good review, i didn't know about that Gordon Johnson until today you mentioned him. Gonna buy the dip now.","html":"such a good review, i didn't know about that Gordon Johnson until today you mentioned him. Gonna buy the dip now."}],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":120623137,"gmtCreate":1624322140729,"gmtModify":1703833347134,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Unity!","listText":"Unity!","text":"Unity!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/120623137","repostId":"1191349655","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":193,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":899774038,"gmtCreate":1628218030524,"gmtModify":1703503372285,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/S20.SI\">$STRAITS TRADING CO. LTD(S20.SI)$</a>Target priceis $3.9. This is per DBS analyst report published onMarch 2021. Go go go!","listText":"<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/S20.SI\">$STRAITS TRADING CO. LTD(S20.SI)$</a>Target priceis $3.9. This is per DBS analyst report published onMarch 2021. Go go go!","text":"$STRAITS TRADING CO. LTD(S20.SI)$Target priceis $3.9. This is per DBS analyst report published onMarch 2021. Go go go!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/899774038","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":389,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":151367003,"gmtCreate":1625064361202,"gmtModify":1703735315762,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Should post the tipranks of the analysts and see their past performances.","listText":"Should post the tipranks of the analysts and see their past performances.","text":"Should post the tipranks of the analysts and see their past performances.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/151367003","repostId":"1105779613","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1105779613","pubTimestamp":1625062867,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1105779613?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-30 22:21","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stall Shows Wall Street Rift on Stratospheric Stock Value","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1105779613","media":"Bloomberg","summary":"One analyst sees it rising to $1,200, another tumbling to $150. Competitive threats build after meteoric 2020 stock surge. Few companies have been as polarizing on Wall Street as Tesla Inc.-- and the lackluster run this year has done nothing to lessen it.To Piper Sandler & Co.’s Alexander Potter, the company’s potential dominance of the electric-car business warrants a $1,200 stock-price target, nearly double its $680.76 close on Tuesday. To Craig Irwin of Roth Capital Partners, as rivals move t","content":"<ul>\n <li>One analyst sees it rising to $1,200, another tumbling to $150</li>\n <li>Competitive threats build after meteoric 2020 stock surge</li>\n</ul>\n<p>Few companies have been as polarizing on Wall Street as&nbsp;Tesla Inc.-- and the lackluster run this year has done nothing to lessen it.</p>\n<p>To&nbsp;Piper Sandler &amp; Co.’s Alexander Potter, the company’s potential dominance of the electric-car business&nbsp;warrants&nbsp;a $1,200 stock-price target, nearly double its $680.76 close on Tuesday. To Craig Irwin of Roth Capital Partners, as rivals move to pick off a head start that turned Tesla into the world’s most highly valued car company, the stock will sink to $150.</p>\n<p>The divergence illustrates the tension that has sent Tesla shares toward a 4% loss during the first half of the year even as rival automakers surged ahead. That’s a marked contrast to its more than 8-fold jump last year and reflects investors’ doubts about heady growth expectations for the company in the face of stronger competitive threats and signs of a sales slowdown in China.</p>\n<p>“For a long time Tesla was the only credible player in the high-quality EV market, and we are seeing that starting to change,” said JoAnne Feeney, portfolio manager atAdvisorsCapital Management, who said the company’s current valuation assumes it will become the biggest seller of cars in the U.S. “That seems to be an awful lot to ask.”</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fb8f7a35e4b2bc516159737958ead3d4\" tg-width=\"1200\" tg-height=\"675\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>Tesla sold about half a million cars worldwide in 2020, accounting for a fraction of even the 14.5 million light vehicles sold in the U.S., and it’s facing threats from traditional automakers such as&nbsp;General Motors Co.,Ford Motor Co.&nbsp;and&nbsp;Volkswagen AG&nbsp;that are launching their own electric-vehicle lineups. In China, Tesla’s lead over other startups has already started to shrink, according to&nbsp;UBS Group AG&nbsp;analyst Patrick Hummel.</p>\n<p>That competition poses a separate challenge to the company’s bottom line: Tesla has profited from selling carbon-offset credits to other carmakers that haven’t met their emissions targets. But the more its rivals’ sales of electric vehicles take off, the more that source of revenue will drop.</p>\n<p>Yet Tesla’s stock-market valuation is based on the expectation of steep growth, giving it little room for error. It’s currently trading at more than 650 times earnings per share, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. That compares with a multiple of 30 for the S&amp;P 500 Index.</p>\n<p>“Tesla’s market valuation is vastly over optimistic, ignoring the over 500 EV models that will be on the road by the end of 2025,” said&nbsp;Roth Capital’s Irwin. “Tesla does not operate in a vacuum and many companies have better technology.”</p>\n<p>The company will be reporting second-quarter delivery figures later this week, a major catalyst that analysts and investors will be keenly watching.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6d2dd8d41a7f20e74bd44de1c344d6a0\" tg-width=\"1200\" tg-height=\"675\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>But Tesla bulls are confident that the company’s valuation will be justified if it comes to dominate the industry, much like tech behemoths&nbsp;Alphabet Inc.,FaceBook Inc.&nbsp;and&nbsp;Amazon.com Inc&nbsp;.have come to lord over their’s.</p>\n<p>Others just see it as a pause for Tesla shares as investors come to terms with the surging valuation last year, when markets leaned heavily onto growth stocks as the pandemic shut down much of the global economy. That influx has started to shift this year in the so-called reflation trade, with funds moving back into stocks more likely to benefit from the recovery.</p>\n<p>Cathie Wood’s&nbsp;Ark Investment Management, which had a 0.6% stake in Tesla as of March 31 and is an ardent backer of the company, remains steadfast in its support despite the stock’s showing this year. Ark expects it to benefit from rising electric vehicle sales and sees even odds that it will deliver fully self-driven cars in four years.</p>\n<p>If all goes as planned? Ark forecasts the stock will reach $3,000 in 2025.</p>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stall Shows Wall Street Rift on Stratospheric Stock Value</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stall Shows Wall Street Rift on Stratospheric Stock Value\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-30 22:21 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-30/tesla-stall-shows-wall-street-rift-on-stratospheric-stock-value?srnd=markets-vp><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>One analyst sees it rising to $1,200, another tumbling to $150\nCompetitive threats build after meteoric 2020 stock surge\n\nFew companies have been as polarizing on Wall Street as Tesla Inc.-- and the ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-30/tesla-stall-shows-wall-street-rift-on-stratospheric-stock-value?srnd=markets-vp\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-30/tesla-stall-shows-wall-street-rift-on-stratospheric-stock-value?srnd=markets-vp","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1105779613","content_text":"One analyst sees it rising to $1,200, another tumbling to $150\nCompetitive threats build after meteoric 2020 stock surge\n\nFew companies have been as polarizing on Wall Street as Tesla Inc.-- and the lackluster run this year has done nothing to lessen it.\nTo Piper Sandler & Co.’s Alexander Potter, the company’s potential dominance of the electric-car business warrants a $1,200 stock-price target, nearly double its $680.76 close on Tuesday. To Craig Irwin of Roth Capital Partners, as rivals move to pick off a head start that turned Tesla into the world’s most highly valued car company, the stock will sink to $150.\nThe divergence illustrates the tension that has sent Tesla shares toward a 4% loss during the first half of the year even as rival automakers surged ahead. That’s a marked contrast to its more than 8-fold jump last year and reflects investors’ doubts about heady growth expectations for the company in the face of stronger competitive threats and signs of a sales slowdown in China.\n“For a long time Tesla was the only credible player in the high-quality EV market, and we are seeing that starting to change,” said JoAnne Feeney, portfolio manager atAdvisorsCapital Management, who said the company’s current valuation assumes it will become the biggest seller of cars in the U.S. “That seems to be an awful lot to ask.”\n\nTesla sold about half a million cars worldwide in 2020, accounting for a fraction of even the 14.5 million light vehicles sold in the U.S., and it’s facing threats from traditional automakers such as General Motors Co.,Ford Motor Co. and Volkswagen AG that are launching their own electric-vehicle lineups. In China, Tesla’s lead over other startups has already started to shrink, according to UBS Group AG analyst Patrick Hummel.\nThat competition poses a separate challenge to the company’s bottom line: Tesla has profited from selling carbon-offset credits to other carmakers that haven’t met their emissions targets. But the more its rivals’ sales of electric vehicles take off, the more that source of revenue will drop.\nYet Tesla’s stock-market valuation is based on the expectation of steep growth, giving it little room for error. It’s currently trading at more than 650 times earnings per share, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. That compares with a multiple of 30 for the S&P 500 Index.\n“Tesla’s market valuation is vastly over optimistic, ignoring the over 500 EV models that will be on the road by the end of 2025,” said Roth Capital’s Irwin. “Tesla does not operate in a vacuum and many companies have better technology.”\nThe company will be reporting second-quarter delivery figures later this week, a major catalyst that analysts and investors will be keenly watching.\n\nBut Tesla bulls are confident that the company’s valuation will be justified if it comes to dominate the industry, much like tech behemoths Alphabet Inc.,FaceBook Inc. and Amazon.com Inc .have come to lord over their’s.\nOthers just see it as a pause for Tesla shares as investors come to terms with the surging valuation last year, when markets leaned heavily onto growth stocks as the pandemic shut down much of the global economy. That influx has started to shift this year in the so-called reflation trade, with funds moving back into stocks more likely to benefit from the recovery.\nCathie Wood’s Ark Investment Management, which had a 0.6% stake in Tesla as of March 31 and is an ardent backer of the company, remains steadfast in its support despite the stock’s showing this year. Ark expects it to benefit from rising electric vehicle sales and sees even odds that it will deliver fully self-driven cars in four years.\nIf all goes as planned? 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These 2 stirring within 2 months????????","listText":"Game for week of 12 Jul21:<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/541.SI\">$ABUNDANCE INTERNATIONAL LTD(541.SI)$</a><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AUE.SI\">$GOLDEN ENERGY AND RESOURCESLTD(AUE.SI)$</a>Standby your bullets. These 2 stirring within 2 months????????","text":"Game for week of 12 Jul21:$ABUNDANCE INTERNATIONAL LTD(541.SI)$$GOLDEN ENERGY AND RESOURCESLTD(AUE.SI)$Standby your bullets. These 2 stirring within 2 months????????","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/148628773","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":0,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":268,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":165180926,"gmtCreate":1624105759265,"gmtModify":1703828890779,"author":{"id":"3554962053372786","authorId":"3554962053372786","name":"KitKat","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddbb9bb5d6adf92edf5f29a5c567e334","crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Enough of meme stocks","listText":"Enough of meme stocks","text":"Enough of meme stocks","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/165180926","repostId":"1166679093","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1166679093","pubTimestamp":1624065234,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/1166679093?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2021-06-19 09:13","market":"us","language":"en","title":"3 Meme Stocks Wall Street Predicts Will Plunge More Than 20%","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1166679093","media":"fool","summary":"Meme stocks have been all the rage so far this year. That's understandable, with several of them del","content":"<p>Meme stocks have been all the rage so far this year. That's understandable, with several of them delivering triple-digit and even four-digit percentage gains.</p>\n<p>However, what goes up can come down. Analysts don't expect the online frenzy fueling the ginormous jumps for some of the most popular stocks will be sustainable. Here are three meme stocks that Wall Street thinks will plunge by more than 20% within the next 12 months.</p>\n<p>AMC Entertainment</p>\n<p><b>AMC Entertainment</b>(NYSE:AMC)ranks as the best-performing meme stock of all. Shares of the movie theater operator have skyrocketed close to 2,500% year to date.</p>\n<p>The consensus among analysts, though, is that the stock could lose 90% of its current value. Even the most optimistic analyst surveyed by Refinitiv has a price target for AMC that's more than 70% below the current share price.</p>\n<p>But isn't AMC's business picking up? Yep. The easing of restrictions has enabled the company to reopen 99% of its U.S. theaters. AMC could benefit as seating capacity limitations imposed by state and local governments are raised. Thereleases of multiple movies this summerand later this year that are likely to be hits should also help.</p>\n<p>However, Wall Street clearly believes that AMC's share price has gotten way ahead of its business prospects. The stock is trading at nearly eight times higher than it was before the COVID-19 pandemic.</p>\n<p>Clover Health Investments</p>\n<p>Only a few days ago, it looked like&nbsp;<b>Clover Health Investments</b>(NASDAQ:CLOV)might push AMC to the side as the hottest meme stock. Retail investors viewed Clover as a primeshort squeezecandidate.</p>\n<p>Since the beginning of June, shares of Clover Health have jumped more than 65%. Analysts, however, don't expect those gains to last. The average price target for the stock is 25% below the current share price.</p>\n<p>Clover Health's valuation does seem to have gotten out of hand. The healthcare stock currently trades at more than 170 times trailing-12-month sales. That's a nosebleed level, especially considering that the company is the subject of investigations by the U.S. Department of Justice and the Securities and Exchange Commission.</p>\n<p>Still, Clover Health could deliver improving financial results this year. The company hopes to significantly increase its membership by targeting the original Medicare program. This represents a major new market opportunity in addition to its current Medicare Advantage business.</p>\n<p>Sundial Growers</p>\n<p>At one point earlier this year,&nbsp;<b>Sundial Growers</b>(NASDAQ:SNDL)appeared to be a legitimate contender to become the biggest winner among meme stocks. The Canadian marijuana stock vaulted more than 520% higher year to date before giving up much of its gains. However, Sundial's share price has still more than doubled in 2021.</p>\n<p>Analysts anticipate that the pot stock could fall even further. The consensus price target for Sundial reflects a 23% discount to its current share price. One analyst even thinks the stock could sink 55%.</p>\n<p>There certainly are reasons to be pessimistic about Sundial's core cannabis business. The company's net cannabis revenue fell year over year in the first quarter of 2021. Although Sundial is taking steps that it hopes will turn things around, it remains to be seen if those efforts will succeed.</p>\n<p>Sundial's business deals could give investors reasons for optimism. After all, the company posted positive adjusted earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) in Q1 due to its investments.</p>\n<p>However, the cash that Sundial is using to make these investments has come at the cost of increased dilution of its stock. The company can't afford any additional dilution without having to resort to desperate measures to keep its listing on the&nbsp;<b>Nasdaq</b>&nbsp;stock exchange.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>3 Meme Stocks Wall Street Predicts Will Plunge More Than 20%</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\n3 Meme Stocks Wall Street Predicts Will Plunge More Than 20%\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-19 09:13 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/06/18/3-meme-stocks-wall-street-predicts-will-plunge-mor/><strong>fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Meme stocks have been all the rage so far this year. That's understandable, with several of them delivering triple-digit and even four-digit percentage gains.\nHowever, what goes up can come down. ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/06/18/3-meme-stocks-wall-street-predicts-will-plunge-mor/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"AMC":"AMC院线","SNDL":"SNDL Inc.","CLOV":"Clover Health Corp"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/06/18/3-meme-stocks-wall-street-predicts-will-plunge-mor/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1166679093","content_text":"Meme stocks have been all the rage so far this year. That's understandable, with several of them delivering triple-digit and even four-digit percentage gains.\nHowever, what goes up can come down. Analysts don't expect the online frenzy fueling the ginormous jumps for some of the most popular stocks will be sustainable. Here are three meme stocks that Wall Street thinks will plunge by more than 20% within the next 12 months.\nAMC Entertainment\nAMC Entertainment(NYSE:AMC)ranks as the best-performing meme stock of all. Shares of the movie theater operator have skyrocketed close to 2,500% year to date.\nThe consensus among analysts, though, is that the stock could lose 90% of its current value. Even the most optimistic analyst surveyed by Refinitiv has a price target for AMC that's more than 70% below the current share price.\nBut isn't AMC's business picking up? Yep. The easing of restrictions has enabled the company to reopen 99% of its U.S. theaters. AMC could benefit as seating capacity limitations imposed by state and local governments are raised. Thereleases of multiple movies this summerand later this year that are likely to be hits should also help.\nHowever, Wall Street clearly believes that AMC's share price has gotten way ahead of its business prospects. The stock is trading at nearly eight times higher than it was before the COVID-19 pandemic.\nClover Health Investments\nOnly a few days ago, it looked like Clover Health Investments(NASDAQ:CLOV)might push AMC to the side as the hottest meme stock. Retail investors viewed Clover as a primeshort squeezecandidate.\nSince the beginning of June, shares of Clover Health have jumped more than 65%. Analysts, however, don't expect those gains to last. The average price target for the stock is 25% below the current share price.\nClover Health's valuation does seem to have gotten out of hand. The healthcare stock currently trades at more than 170 times trailing-12-month sales. That's a nosebleed level, especially considering that the company is the subject of investigations by the U.S. Department of Justice and the Securities and Exchange Commission.\nStill, Clover Health could deliver improving financial results this year. The company hopes to significantly increase its membership by targeting the original Medicare program. This represents a major new market opportunity in addition to its current Medicare Advantage business.\nSundial Growers\nAt one point earlier this year, Sundial Growers(NASDAQ:SNDL)appeared to be a legitimate contender to become the biggest winner among meme stocks. The Canadian marijuana stock vaulted more than 520% higher year to date before giving up much of its gains. However, Sundial's share price has still more than doubled in 2021.\nAnalysts anticipate that the pot stock could fall even further. The consensus price target for Sundial reflects a 23% discount to its current share price. One analyst even thinks the stock could sink 55%.\nThere certainly are reasons to be pessimistic about Sundial's core cannabis business. The company's net cannabis revenue fell year over year in the first quarter of 2021. Although Sundial is taking steps that it hopes will turn things around, it remains to be seen if those efforts will succeed.\nSundial's business deals could give investors reasons for optimism. After all, the company posted positive adjusted earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization (EBITDA) in Q1 due to its investments.\nHowever, the cash that Sundial is using to make these investments has come at the cost of increased dilution of its stock. The company can't afford any additional dilution without having to resort to desperate measures to keep its listing on the Nasdaq stock exchange.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":124,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}