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Can Tesla Be a Value Stock? How It’s Going to Get There
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It’s getting so bad that shares could start looking good to a group ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-value-stock-51671803531?mod=hp_LATEST\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"LU2063271972.USD":"富兰克林创新领域基金","LU0320765489.SGD":"FTIF - Franklin Mutual US Value A Acc SGD","BK4527":"明星科技股","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","LU0097036916.USD":"贝莱德美国增长A2 USD","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","LU0648000940.SGD":"Natixis Harris Associates Global Equity RA SGD","LU2087621335.USD":"ALLSPRING GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","TSLA":"特斯拉","LU1720051017.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence AT Acc H2-SGD","BK4574":"无人驾驶","LU1852331112.SGD":"Blackrock World Technology Fund A2 SGD-H","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","LU1548497426.USD":"安联环球人工智能AT Acc","BK4561":"索罗斯持仓","LU1861558580.USD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","LU0130103400.USD":"Natixis Harris Associates Global Equity RA USD","BK4581":"高盛持仓","LU0820561818.USD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金Cl AM DIS","LU1201861165.SGD":"Natixis Harris Associates Global Equity PA SGD","BK4099":"汽车制造商","BK4511":"特斯拉概念","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","LU1720051108.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","BK1511":"疑似财技股","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","BK1117":"系统软件","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","LU1551013425.SGD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS H2-SGD","LU0053666078.USD":"摩根大通基金-美国股票A（离岸）美元","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","LU0082616367.USD":"摩根大通美国科技A（dist）","LU0208291251.USD":"FRANKLIN MUTUAL U.S. VALUE \"A\" (USD) INC","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" ACC","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","BK4214":"汽车零售","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","BK4555":"新能源车","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","LU0234572021.USD":"高盛美国核心股票组合Acc"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-value-stock-51671803531?mod=hp_LATEST","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2293524502","content_text":"Tesla‘s stock price action has brought no joy to shareholders this holiday season. The numbers look awful and upsetting to bulls. It’s getting so bad that shares could start looking good to a group that doesn’t typically look at Tesla: value investors.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock has been a brutal performer for months. Shares have fallen roughly 55% over the past three months and 65% this year. The stock has declined roughly 45% since Elon Musk took over Twitter, underperforming the Nasdaq Composite by roughly 40 percentage points over that span. Tesla stock underperformed General Motors(GM) shares by about 35 percentage points since the social media takeover. Tesla shares haven’t been this low since late 2020. Those are the numbers staring Tesla investors in the face.But all the declines have left Tesla stock trading for 22 times estimated 2023 earnings. That’s the lowest P/E ratio for Tesla stock ever. Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas called recent declines a buying opportunity in a report last week. The stock was about $140 then. Tesla shares closed just above $123 on Friday. He rates Tesla shares a Buy and has a $330 price target for the stock.Others on Wall Street also are seeing opportunity. “Tesla is way oversold on the Twitter/Musk overhang and has gone from a high multiple growth stock to a potential value name in 2023,” Wedbush analyst Dan Ives told Barron’s. “As a disruptive technology name Tesla is being treated as a villain by Wall Street and is approaching very attractive levels by long-term investors.” Ives is a Tesla bull, rating shares Buy. His price target is $175.Tesla as a value stock is an interesting thought. It’s been a growth stock since it came to market back in 2010. Shares have traded at roughly 60 times earnings on average for the past few years, a big multiple backed up by big growth. Sales and earnings have grown at roughly 60% and 130% a year, on average, for the past two years.Tesla is still growing. Wall Street expects sales and earnings to advance at average annual rates of about 38% and 32%, respectively, for the coming two years.Potential growth hasn’t been good enough for nervous growth investors who have sold most richly valued growth stocks, along with Tesla shares, this year. The Russell 1000 Growth Index has fallen roughly 30% this year. The Russell 1000 Value Index has outperformed in 2022 by roughly 20 percentage points.One reason growth stocks go into free fall is because there is a sizable gap between the price a growth investor will pay for a stock and what a value investor will pay for a stock. When growth investors lose interest, or get nervous, there is a long way to go before contrarian value investors are willing to take a look.The Russell 1000 Growth Index still trades at a big premium to its value cousin, at about 21 times estimated 2023 earnings. The Russell 1000 Value Index trades for about 14 times estimated 2023 earnings.Tesla isn’t at 14 times earnings yet, but it might not have to get there to become a value idea.John Roque, senior managing director at 22V Research, believes Tesla stock can drop all the way to $100. He’s looking at the stock chart for support. He isn’t concerned with fundamentals.For the stock to stop dropping someone has to start buying, and at Roque’s $100 number Tesla shares would be at less than 17 times some of the higher 2023 estimates on Wall Street. That’s, very roughly, what the S&P 500 is trading at. That might be low enough for value investors to buy — if they believe those 2023 estimates.Tesla’s 2023 estimates have been remarkably stable while the stock has dropped like a stone, but estimates are coming in a little. In August, investors expected Tesla to earn more than $6 a share in 2023. That number has slipped roughly 5% to about $5.66 a share, according to FactSet.Roth Capital analyst Craig Irwin said it’s hard to pick a bottom when estimates are falling. He rates Tesla shares at Hold. Irwin’s price target is $85, according to FactSet.Estimates are getting cut because Wall Street is worried about the economy and car demand. CarMax (KMX), on Thursday, shocked analysts after reporting far lower-than-expected sales and earnings for its fiscal third quarter. The company cited affordability problems due to rising interest rates combined with higher car prices.There are some reasons to be optimistic. Canaccord analyst George Gianarikas wrote Wednesday that there are some “green shoots” for EV demand. Two important ones are new EV purchase tax credits in the U.S. and China easing its zero-Covid policies. Citi analyst Jeff Chung covers the Chinese auto industry and he sees Chinese EV sales hitting 8.5 million units in 2023, up 33% from 2022.Gianarikas rates Tesla stock Buy. His target is $275 a share. Chung doesn’t cover Tesla stock.There are pluses and minuses for investors to consider. But if estimates turn out to be close for Tesla in 2023 and 2024 then shares are, frankly, cheap. 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How It’s Going to Get There","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2293524502","media":"Barron's","summary":"Tesla‘s stock price action has brought no joy to shareholders this holiday season. The numbers look ","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Tesla‘s stock price action has brought no joy to shareholders this holiday season. The numbers look awful and upsetting to bulls. It’s getting so bad that shares could start looking good to a group that doesn’t typically look at Tesla: value investors.</p><p>Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock has been a brutal performer for months. Shares have fallen roughly 55% over the past three months and 65% this year. The stock has declined roughly 45% since Elon Musk took over Twitter, underperforming the Nasdaq Composite by roughly 40 percentage points over that span. Tesla stock underperformed General Motors(GM) shares by about 35 percentage points since the social media takeover. Tesla shares haven’t been this low since late 2020. Those are the numbers staring Tesla investors in the face.</p><p>But all the declines have left Tesla stock trading for 22 times estimated 2023 earnings. That’s the lowest P/E ratio for Tesla stock ever. Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas called recent declines a buying opportunity in a report last week. The stock was about $140 then. Tesla shares closed just above $123 on Friday. He rates Tesla shares a Buy and has a $330 price target for the stock.</p><p>Others on Wall Street also are seeing opportunity. “Tesla is way oversold on the Twitter/Musk overhang and has gone from a high multiple growth stock to a potential value name in 2023,” Wedbush analyst Dan Ives told <i>Barron’s</i>. “As a disruptive technology name Tesla is being treated as a villain by Wall Street and is approaching very attractive levels by long-term investors.” Ives is a Tesla bull, rating shares Buy. His price target is $175.</p><p>Tesla as a value stock is an interesting thought. It’s been a growth stock since it came to market back in 2010. Shares have traded at roughly 60 times earnings on average for the past few years, a big multiple backed up by big growth. Sales and earnings have grown at roughly 60% and 130% a year, on average, for the past two years.</p><p>Tesla is still growing. Wall Street expects sales and earnings to advance at average annual rates of about 38% and 32%, respectively, for the coming two years.</p><p>Potential growth hasn’t been good enough for nervous growth investors who have sold most richly valued growth stocks, along with Tesla shares, this year. The Russell 1000 Growth Index has fallen roughly 30% this year. The Russell 1000 Value Index has outperformed in 2022 by roughly 20 percentage points.</p><p>One reason growth stocks go into free fall is because there is a sizable gap between the price a growth investor will pay for a stock and what a value investor will pay for a stock. When growth investors lose interest, or get nervous, there is a long way to go before contrarian value investors are willing to take a look.</p><p>The Russell 1000 Growth Index still trades at a big premium to its value cousin, at about 21 times estimated 2023 earnings. The Russell 1000 Value Index trades for about 14 times estimated 2023 earnings.</p><p>Tesla isn’t at 14 times earnings yet, but it might not have to get there to become a value idea.</p><p>John Roque, senior managing director at 22V Research, believes Tesla stock can drop all the way to $100. He’s looking at the stock chart for support. He isn’t concerned with fundamentals.</p><p>For the stock to stop dropping someone has to start buying, and at Roque’s $100 number Tesla shares would be at less than 17 times some of the higher 2023 estimates on Wall Street. That’s, very roughly, what the S&P 500 is trading at. That might be low enough for value investors to buy — if they believe those 2023 estimates.</p><p>Tesla’s 2023 estimates have been remarkably stable while the stock has dropped like a stone, but estimates are coming in a little. In August, investors expected Tesla to earn more than $6 a share in 2023. That number has slipped roughly 5% to about $5.66 a share, according to FactSet.</p><p>Roth Capital analyst Craig Irwin said it’s hard to pick a bottom when estimates are falling. He rates Tesla shares at Hold. Irwin’s price target is $85, according to FactSet.</p><p>Estimates are getting cut because Wall Street is worried about the economy and car demand. CarMax (KMX), on Thursday, shocked analysts after reporting far lower-than-expected sales and earnings for its fiscal third quarter. The company cited affordability problems due to rising interest rates combined with higher car prices.</p><p>There are some reasons to be optimistic. Canaccord analyst George Gianarikas wrote Wednesday that there are some “green shoots” for EV demand. Two important ones are new EV purchase tax credits in the U.S. and China easing its zero-Covid policies. Citi analyst Jeff Chung covers the Chinese auto industry and he sees Chinese EV sales hitting 8.5 million units in 2023, up 33% from 2022.</p><p>Gianarikas rates Tesla stock Buy. His target is $275 a share. Chung doesn’t cover Tesla stock.</p><p>There are pluses and minuses for investors to consider. But if estimates turn out to be close for Tesla in 2023 and 2024 then shares are, frankly, cheap. 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How It’s Going to Get There\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-12-26 11:27 GMT+8 <a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-value-stock-51671803531?mod=hp_LATEST><strong>Barron's</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla‘s stock price action has brought no joy to shareholders this holiday season. The numbers look awful and upsetting to bulls. It’s getting so bad that shares could start looking good to a group ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-value-stock-51671803531?mod=hp_LATEST\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"LU2063271972.USD":"富兰克林创新领域基金","LU0320765489.SGD":"FTIF - Franklin Mutual US Value A Acc SGD","BK4527":"明星科技股","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","LU0097036916.USD":"贝莱德美国增长A2 USD","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","LU0648000940.SGD":"Natixis Harris Associates Global Equity RA SGD","LU2087621335.USD":"ALLSPRING GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","TSLA":"特斯拉","LU1720051017.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence AT Acc H2-SGD","BK4574":"无人驾驶","LU1852331112.SGD":"Blackrock World Technology Fund A2 SGD-H","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","LU1548497426.USD":"安联环球人工智能AT Acc","BK4561":"索罗斯持仓","LU1861558580.USD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","LU0130103400.USD":"Natixis Harris Associates Global Equity RA USD","BK4581":"高盛持仓","LU0820561818.USD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金Cl AM DIS","LU1201861165.SGD":"Natixis Harris Associates Global Equity PA SGD","BK4099":"汽车制造商","BK4511":"特斯拉概念","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","LU1720051108.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","BK1511":"疑似财技股","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","BK1117":"系统软件","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","LU1551013425.SGD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS H2-SGD","LU0053666078.USD":"摩根大通基金-美国股票A（离岸）美元","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","LU0082616367.USD":"摩根大通美国科技A（dist）","LU0208291251.USD":"FRANKLIN MUTUAL U.S. VALUE \"A\" (USD) INC","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" ACC","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","BK4214":"汽车零售","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","BK4555":"新能源车","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","LU0234572021.USD":"高盛美国核心股票组合Acc"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-value-stock-51671803531?mod=hp_LATEST","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2293524502","content_text":"Tesla‘s stock price action has brought no joy to shareholders this holiday season. The numbers look awful and upsetting to bulls. It’s getting so bad that shares could start looking good to a group that doesn’t typically look at Tesla: value investors.Tesla (ticker: TSLA) stock has been a brutal performer for months. Shares have fallen roughly 55% over the past three months and 65% this year. The stock has declined roughly 45% since Elon Musk took over Twitter, underperforming the Nasdaq Composite by roughly 40 percentage points over that span. Tesla stock underperformed General Motors(GM) shares by about 35 percentage points since the social media takeover. Tesla shares haven’t been this low since late 2020. Those are the numbers staring Tesla investors in the face.But all the declines have left Tesla stock trading for 22 times estimated 2023 earnings. That’s the lowest P/E ratio for Tesla stock ever. Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas called recent declines a buying opportunity in a report last week. The stock was about $140 then. Tesla shares closed just above $123 on Friday. He rates Tesla shares a Buy and has a $330 price target for the stock.Others on Wall Street also are seeing opportunity. “Tesla is way oversold on the Twitter/Musk overhang and has gone from a high multiple growth stock to a potential value name in 2023,” Wedbush analyst Dan Ives told Barron’s. “As a disruptive technology name Tesla is being treated as a villain by Wall Street and is approaching very attractive levels by long-term investors.” Ives is a Tesla bull, rating shares Buy. His price target is $175.Tesla as a value stock is an interesting thought. It’s been a growth stock since it came to market back in 2010. Shares have traded at roughly 60 times earnings on average for the past few years, a big multiple backed up by big growth. Sales and earnings have grown at roughly 60% and 130% a year, on average, for the past two years.Tesla is still growing. Wall Street expects sales and earnings to advance at average annual rates of about 38% and 32%, respectively, for the coming two years.Potential growth hasn’t been good enough for nervous growth investors who have sold most richly valued growth stocks, along with Tesla shares, this year. The Russell 1000 Growth Index has fallen roughly 30% this year. The Russell 1000 Value Index has outperformed in 2022 by roughly 20 percentage points.One reason growth stocks go into free fall is because there is a sizable gap between the price a growth investor will pay for a stock and what a value investor will pay for a stock. When growth investors lose interest, or get nervous, there is a long way to go before contrarian value investors are willing to take a look.The Russell 1000 Growth Index still trades at a big premium to its value cousin, at about 21 times estimated 2023 earnings. The Russell 1000 Value Index trades for about 14 times estimated 2023 earnings.Tesla isn’t at 14 times earnings yet, but it might not have to get there to become a value idea.John Roque, senior managing director at 22V Research, believes Tesla stock can drop all the way to $100. He’s looking at the stock chart for support. He isn’t concerned with fundamentals.For the stock to stop dropping someone has to start buying, and at Roque’s $100 number Tesla shares would be at less than 17 times some of the higher 2023 estimates on Wall Street. That’s, very roughly, what the S&P 500 is trading at. That might be low enough for value investors to buy — if they believe those 2023 estimates.Tesla’s 2023 estimates have been remarkably stable while the stock has dropped like a stone, but estimates are coming in a little. In August, investors expected Tesla to earn more than $6 a share in 2023. That number has slipped roughly 5% to about $5.66 a share, according to FactSet.Roth Capital analyst Craig Irwin said it’s hard to pick a bottom when estimates are falling. He rates Tesla shares at Hold. Irwin’s price target is $85, according to FactSet.Estimates are getting cut because Wall Street is worried about the economy and car demand. CarMax (KMX), on Thursday, shocked analysts after reporting far lower-than-expected sales and earnings for its fiscal third quarter. The company cited affordability problems due to rising interest rates combined with higher car prices.There are some reasons to be optimistic. Canaccord analyst George Gianarikas wrote Wednesday that there are some “green shoots” for EV demand. Two important ones are new EV purchase tax credits in the U.S. and China easing its zero-Covid policies. Citi analyst Jeff Chung covers the Chinese auto industry and he sees Chinese EV sales hitting 8.5 million units in 2023, up 33% from 2022.Gianarikas rates Tesla stock Buy. His target is $275 a share. Chung doesn’t cover Tesla stock.There are pluses and minuses for investors to consider. But if estimates turn out to be close for Tesla in 2023 and 2024 then shares are, frankly, cheap. What is cheap enough remains to be seen.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":174,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9925238466,"gmtCreate":1672028014955,"gmtModify":1676538624200,"author":{"id":"4135126188298082","authorId":"4135126188298082","name":"samsuding","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4135126188298082","authorIdStr":"4135126188298082"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"50+","listText":"50+","text":"50+","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9925238466","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":73,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9925238067,"gmtCreate":1672027779859,"gmtModify":1676538624153,"author":{"id":"4135126188298082","authorId":"4135126188298082","name":"samsuding","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4135126188298082","authorIdStr":"4135126188298082"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Spacr","listText":"Spacr","text":"Spacr","images":[{"img":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1fdb897f4d8e3edb34093ccd7819204a","width":"720","height":"2725"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9925238067","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":125,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}
