Tesla AI Day: More Artificial Than Intelligent

TheStreet2021-08-23

Reactions to the latest Tesla presentation are, as always, polarized. Tesla’s "AI Day" presentation on Thursday evening was certainly an eventful one, with eyebrows being raised both in anticipation ...

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kcwang4982
2021-08-23
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Ok go
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2021-08-23
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Ha ha. AI depends on human innovation.
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2021-08-23
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Very much in contrast to Musk’s comical presentation, the capabilities of the company’s robots are almost frightening.\n“This transaction will unite capabilities of Hyundai Motor Group and Boston Dynamics to spearhead innovation in future mobility,” Hyundai Chairman Euisun Chung said of the transaction. “The synergies created by our union offer exciting new pathways for our companies to realize our goal - providing free and safe movement and a higher plane of life experiences for humanity.”\nMeanwhile, Japanese stalwarts Honda and Toyota have been toiling in the robotics space, especially in humanoid robots, for decades. Memorably, Honda’s recently retired ASIMO was the first robot to walk bipedally and also the first to climb stairs, becoming nimble enough over its development to play soccer with a U.S. president.\nMusk joked that the codename for the new Tesla bot is “Optimus Subprime.\" Clearly a joke, referencing the leader of the autobots faction in the beloved \"Transformers,\" the codename might also unwittingly allude to Tesla’s late start in challenging fellow automakers that are far farther along in the development of these technologies.\nPerhaps more aptly put, suboptimal.\nChips on the Table\nTo be sure, there was actual hardware that could prove highly valuable toTesla’s future. 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