It’s ‘very dangerous’ to invest in stocks and bitcoin right now, long-time bear David Tice warns

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The investor who sold his bear fund as the 2008 financial crisis was unfolding is delivering a grim long-term prognosis to Wall Street. From the S&P 500 to Big Tech to bitcoin, David Tice warns it’s a...

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KH17
2021-07-19
KH17
Time in market more important than timing the market
Jenjorjack
2021-07-19
Jenjorjack
Please like comment and follow too. Have a great week ahead
Jenjorjack
2021-07-19
Jenjorjack
Earnings seasons. Can earnings support the price? Will it continue post pandemic? Questions to ask if u are parting with your hard earn money. Please like comment and follow. Will follow u back.
SHAJ
2021-07-19
SHAJ
War looming?
Eded
2021-07-19
Eded
What to do … put money in gold or saving account? Can’t defeat inflation either
- Fanshuu:
  Put in MILO tin ?
NCM
2021-07-19
NCM
What goes up will come down, likewise. It is a cycle.
- SSVC:
  Yes
- CT张:
  Wait for right time
- AetherC:
  Agree

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