If Biden hikes capital gains taxes on millionaires, some new investors see a ‘buying opportunity’

MarketWatch2021-04-26

‘I look at something like this as an opportunity to buy and hold,’ said one millennial investor who’s on the lookout for a stock market sell-off if capital gains tax rates increase. Alex Zagorski will...

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LHL0909
2021-04-27
LHL0909
Reply my comment pls
- mwsi7128:
  responsed. comment back
- Taylorx:
  ?
- ponyinvestor:
  Response to this comment pls
Navybean
2021-04-27
Navybean
Opportunity? Well, maybe,” Must look carefully on stock-by-stock basis.
- redbean:
  true...
- Navybean:
  If rich people are selling, it hardly means they are walking away. Its more that they are taking gains n reinvesting in other stocks
- redbean:
  yes agreed!
- redbean:
  true
PaladinSir
2021-04-27
PaladinSir
Like and comment
- ponyinvestor:
  Response to this comment pls
- Yoknown:
  !
ChowderBites
2021-04-27
ChowderBites
Comment & like please. Will do the same
- Dree91:
  Pls reply to this thanks!
raidou
2021-04-27
raidou
Please like and comment. Thanks
- Dree91:
  Pls reply to this thanks!
- shingshing:
  hihi
Meow17
2021-04-27
Meow17
Latest
- Kenny77:
  Hmmmm
- Lingclass:
  Tax is going higher and higher

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Will Biden include the idea in the “American Families Plan” that he’s expected to unveil on Wednesday? How many other tax hikes targeting rich household will that plan include? Will it pass Congress?\nBut another question is: What does this potential tax increase mean for a new generation of retail investors?\nBy now, newer investors have gone through the 2020 market’s fall and rise, and weathered the meme stock trading frenzy that put companies like GameStopGME,3.18%on a share price rollercoaster. Do they stand to gain from an estimated$178 billionin selling that could occur prior to the rate increase?\n“There are some who may view it as, ‘Oh, here’s my opportunity to get on board,’” said James Angel, a professor at Georgetown University’s McDonough School of Business.\nBut like so much else based on the potential rate hikes, there are big open questions on how new investors — and investors in general — will react. “Does it create opportunity? Well, maybe,” Angel said. “But you have to look carefully on stock-by-stock basis.”\nIndeed,a share price might have little to do with the tax environment,one investor note said Friday. “Ultimately, other factors such as the outlook for economic growth, monetary policy, and interest rates are much more powerful drivers of equity market returns and valuations,” wrote Mark Haefele, chief investment officer for global wealth management at UBS.\n‘One would expect people to start selling off’\nWhen President Ronald Reagan signed theTax Reform Act of 1986,he lowered the top income-tax rate from 50% to 28%.\nThe Republican president also changed the tax code in order to treat long-term capital gains as ordinary income, instead of giving capital gains a preferential rate. That bumped the capital gains rate up to 28% for rich households.\nIn the lead up to the changes during tax year 1986, there was a 60% rise in sales on all sorts of capital assets, according to researchers at the nonpartisan U.S. Congress committee Joint Committee on Taxation, and the Tax Policy Center, a think tank.\nAhead of a 2013 change — which brought the long-term capital gains rate from 15% to 20% and tacked on the 3.8% Net Investment Income Tax — there was a 40% rise in capital gains “realizations,”the researchers said, meaning investors were selling their holdings.\nHistory could repeat itself, one of the authors told MarketWatch.\n“Certainly, one would expect people to start selling off,” said Robert McClelland, a senior fellow at the Tax Policy Center. “How much, I don’t know.”\nBut McClelland noted it’s important to remember that many stock market buyers are foreign investors and retirement accounts, including 401(k) plans or pension plans, rather than individual investors operating through a brokerage account.\nForeign investors own about 40% of stock market equity and retirement accounts own about 30%, according toestimateslast year from McClelland’s Tax Policy Center colleagues. Taxable accounts, like a brokerage account, own another 25% in stock market equity.\nAnother thing to remember is if rich people are selling, it hardly means they are walking away. “I would still be buying for my clients,” said David Haas, owner of Cereus Financial Advisors in Franklin Lakes, N.J. “In other words, selling does not mean getting out of the market. I would sell a client’s gains and buy something similar to continue participation in the market. The point is to take gains, not stop investing.”\nAs markets digested news Thursday of Biden’s possible capital gains tax hike, they ended the day on a down note. By Friday, they rebounded, with the Dow Jones Industrial AverageDJIA,0.12%ending 228 points higher, up 0.7%, and the S&P 500SPX,0.28%finishing up 1.1%higher.\nZagorski says he might be able to profit from any future sell off, but that still doesn’t erase his personal concerns about a rate hike. 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Its more that they are taking gains n reinvesting in other stocks","text":"If rich people are selling, it hardly means they are walking away. Its more that they are taking gains n reinvesting in other stocks","html":"If rich people are selling, it hardly means they are walking away. 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