Amazon Vs. Alibaba: Comparing The Risks

seekingalpha2021-03-25

Summary The potential return is largely beyond our control. But the risk that we take can be assessed and compared more or less objectively. Amazon's higher average return comes with relatively low ...

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xuanlin
2021-03-30
xuanlin
Reply my comment please
- xuanlin:
  Hi
Meshaarias72
2021-03-28
Meshaarias72
Analysis fist ya
khorgc
2021-03-26
khorgc
Both are good
Ronchan
2021-03-26
Ronchan
Agree...i own both stocks but bigger position in Amazon
Jerome54
2021-03-25
Jerome54
BABA is really cheap at this valuation. Expecting it to shoot up to 275 by Q4.
Wins888
2021-03-25
Wins888
cool!

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And it is in this context that I propose to compare Alibaba (BABA) and Amazon (AMZN).\nIn my calculation, I used the monthly total price return since October 2014 - the day BABA started trading.\nLet's start with basic parameters.\nThe first thing that catches your eye is that Amazon's distribution of returns is close to the normal distribution. This attests to the stability and predictability of results:\nWhen it comes to investment, we very often focus on assessing the potential return, which is largely beyond our control. But the risk that we take can be assessed and compared more or less objectively. And it is in this context that I propose to compare Alibaba (BABA) and Amazon (AMZN).\nIn my calculation, I used the monthly total price return since October 2014 - the day BABA started trading.\nLet's start with basic parameters.\nThe first thing that catches your eye is that Amazon's distribution of returns is close to the normal distribution. 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In addition, Amazon's distribution of returns demonstrates positive skewness and excess kurtosis equal to 4.04. This means that, firstly, Amazon's returns tend to deviate toward the positive side relative to the average values and, secondly, in comparison with a normal distribution (excess kurtosis of the normal distribution equals 3),the actual distribution of AMZN's returns is more concentrated around the average value.\nSource: VisualizedAnalytics.com\nIf you are confused, these graphs allow you to clearly understand the essence of these parameters:\nSource: justusjp.medium.com\nNow let's take a look at Alibaba:\nSource: VisualizedAnalytics.com\nHere is a similar situation, but it loses to Amazon. Median and arithmetic mean are close to each other. The positive skewness also is present, and excess kurtosis is 3.37.But both are lower than those of Amazon.\nNow let's take a look at the history of companies' annual total price returns. In Amazon's case, we have a lower standard deviation limit above zero:\nSource: VisualizedAnalytics.com\nIn the case of Alibaba, the situation is worse. Here, the lower standard deviation is negative:\nSource: VisualizedAnalytics.com\nAs you can see, historically, investing in Amazon has provided higher return at lower risk.\nBottom Line\nAmazon and Alibaba have a lot in common. Both companies are far from their quantitative and qualitative growth limits. At the same time, both companies have their own risks. In the case of Alibaba, it's a sovereign risk. In the case of Amazon, these are risks associated with its size and market share. And at the moment, these risks are difficult to compare.\nI understand that the analysis performed is based on historical data. And the future won't necessarily be the same. But at the same time, one cannot deny the presence of inertia both in physics and in the field of human psychology, which determines the behavior of financial markets. Therefore, it is highly probable that a similar analysis will show approximately the same results in a decade. Therefore, at the moment, I am of the opinion that investing in Amazon is less risky compared to Alibaba Group.","kind":"news","is_publish_news":true,"is_publish_highlight":false,"is_publish_live":false,"is_publish_wemedia":null,"editions":null,"column":"","sentiment":"0","news_tag":"","news_rank":0,"symbols":[],"gpt_button":1},"commentList":[{"id":355597563,"gmtCreate":1617082783652,"gmtModify":1704801728775,"author":{"id":"3575152506937716","authorId":"3575152506937716","name":"xuanlin","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3575152506937716","authorIdStr":"3575152506937716"},"htmlText":"Reply my comment please","listText":"Reply my comment please","text":"Reply my comment please","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/355597563","repostId":1132521046,"repostType":2,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"comments":[{"id":3919142,"gmtCreate":1617082792595,"gmtModify":1680782276866,"authorId":3575152506937716,"author":{"id":3575152506937716,"idStr":"3575152506937716","authorId":3575152506937716,"name":"xuanlin","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":355597563,"type":1,"supId":0,"prevId":0,"content":"Hi","text":"Hi","html":"Hi"}],"langContent":"EN"},{"id":352848268,"gmtCreate":1616936654254,"gmtModify":1704800075569,"author":{"id":"3577781617271173","authorId":"3577781617271173","name":"Meshaarias72","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c5282cda6a9d3948fc067b21adcb578c","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3577781617271173","authorIdStr":"3577781617271173"},"htmlText":"Analysis fist ya","listText":"Analysis fist ya","text":"Analysis fist ya","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/352848268","repostId":1132521046,"repostType":2,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":358798413,"gmtCreate":1616728032632,"gmtModify":1704797970023,"author":{"id":"3577490358002933","authorId":"3577490358002933","name":"khorgc","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/65a0addb29d13bd2bfdcfb44b21f26dd","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3577490358002933","authorIdStr":"3577490358002933"},"htmlText":"Both are good","listText":"Both are good","text":"Both are good","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/358798413","repostId":1132521046,"repostType":2,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":358259548,"gmtCreate":1616708373684,"gmtModify":1704797639446,"author":{"id":"3559128077154435","authorId":"3559128077154435","name":"Ronchan","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/44cc3fba457549bd6dbe449c8aa6c640","vip":1,"crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3559128077154435","authorIdStr":"3559128077154435"},"htmlText":"Agree...i own both stocks but bigger position in Amazon&nbsp;","listText":"Agree...i own both stocks but bigger position in Amazon&nbsp;","text":"Agree...i own both stocks but bigger position in Amazon","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/358259548","repostId":1132521046,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":358683656,"gmtCreate":1616684850875,"gmtModify":1704797471577,"author":{"id":"3552885056817828","authorId":"3552885056817828","name":"Jerome54","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/825ef4837c48c2b23ec8141a914b88e4","vip":1,"crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3552885056817828","authorIdStr":"3552885056817828"},"htmlText":"BABA is really cheap at this valuation. Expecting it to shoot up to 275&nbsp;by Q4.","listText":"BABA is really cheap at this valuation. Expecting it to shoot up to 275&nbsp;by Q4.","text":"BABA is really cheap at this valuation. Expecting it to shoot up to 275 by Q4.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/358683656","repostId":1132521046,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":358694798,"gmtCreate":1616683395614,"gmtModify":1704797439141,"author":{"id":"3573623994106312","authorId":"3573623994106312","name":"Wins888","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"idStr":"3573623994106312","authorIdStr":"3573623994106312"},"htmlText":"cool!","listText":"cool!","text":"cool!","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/358694798","repostId":1132521046,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"}],"isCommentEnd":false,"newsSizeData":{"likeSize":30,"commentSize":16,"repostSize":0,"favoriteSize":0,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false},"APP":{"userAgent":"Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko; compatible; ClaudeBot/1.0; +claudebot@anthropic.com)","isDev":false,"isTTM":true,"deviceId":"web-server-community-laohu8-v3","version":"4.29.3","shortVersion":"4.29.3","platform":"web","vendor":"web","appName":"ttm","isIOS":false,"isAndroid":false,"isTiger":false,"isTHS":false,"isWeiXin":false,"isWeiXinMini":false,"isWeiBo":false,"isQQ":false,"isBaiduSwan":false,"isBaiduBox":false,"isDingTalk":false,"isToutiao":false,"isOnePlus":false,"isHuaWei":false,"isXiaomi":false,"isXiaomiWebView":false,"isOppo":false,"isVivo":false,"isSamsung":false,"isMobile":false},"href":"/m/news/1132521046"}