Apple, Intel Could Become First to Adopt TSMC's 2nm Node

Tom's Hardware2022-04-25

Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Corp. is set to start high volume production of chips using its N2 (2 nm-class) process technology in late 2025 and deliver the first batch of these chips in early ...

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2022-04-25
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2022-04-25
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I thought Intel want to compete with TSMC?

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