Sea’s Path to Profit Paved With Layoffs, Single-Ply Toilet Paper

Bloomberg2023-05-15

CEO of Singapore’s Sea says company is now ‘self-sufficient’Shift comes after ruthless cost-cutting drive in the past yearJust over a year ago, Forrest Li was laid up in bed with Covid, fretting about...

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2023-05-15
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This is the force n ability of biting bullets n gritting teeth
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Not the toilet paper! Nooooooooo!

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For now at least, Sea is setting a different kind of example: It’s demonstrating that if your underlying business is sound and substantial, you can pull back on subsidies and expansions to break even.That’s proving a challenge for rivals. Among Sea’s regional competitors, Singapore’s Grab Holdings Ltd. is still losing more than $300 million a quarter, while Indonesia’s GoTo Group’s losses exceed $250 million. Sea may also cause trouble for global tech giants like Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. and Amazon.com Inc., which are both seeking growth in emerging markets. “What you’re seeing is a separation of proper, monetizable business models from something that is a work-in-progress,” said Amit Kunal, managing partner of Growtheum Capital, a private equity firm in Singapore, speaking broadly about the tech industry. “Sea read the market much earlier, took appropriate steps — and delivered.”Sea Went Through a Rocky Two Years | Forrest Li has navigated numerous ups and downs since 2021Li had a premonition that trouble was coming. Back in November 2021, he hosted his leadership team at his Singapore home for dinner to mark his 44th birthday. They had much to celebrate. Sea’s shares had surged to a record in October, giving the firm a valuation of more than $200 billion, aided by a pandemic-induced boom for its online gaming unit Garena and e-commerce business Shopee. At one point in 2020, Sea was the best-performing stock in the world.But even at the dinner, Li saw ominous signs. He noticed that on Free Fire, the company’s popular multi-player mobile game with 150 million daily users, people were beginning to spend less time and money as Covid restrictions eased. The celebration turned into a debate about how the world would change after the pandemic. Then in February 2022, India abruptly banned Free Fire, along with dozens of Chinese apps, amid rising tensions between the two countries. While Li is a Singapore citizen and based his company there, he’s originally from northeastern China and Tencent Holdings Ltd. is a major shareholder. It was a huge setback in a key growth market.In March, when Li talked during a quarterly earnings call about plans to still pursue growth, investors dumped Sea shares. The firm lost more than 45% of its market value in five days. For Li, it was a wake-up call that things were worse than he’d thought. That’s when he wrote the somber memo to his team from his sickbed. Li and his senior team went into crisis mode. They began huddling every month to discuss cashflow projections, along with their regular weekly meetings. They spun through 200 different versions of financial forecasts in 2022, Li said in the interview, akin to rewriting the budget every two days.In addition to layoffs and salary freezes, Sea pulled out of Europe and most countries in Latin America.The fallout was traumatic for some. In August, a Chinese engineer posted on his WeChat account that Shopee had rescinded his job offer — just after he landed at the Singapore airport with his wife and dog. Amid a storm of negative publicity, Shopee apologized and compensated him for his losses. Employees resorted to taking money out of their own pockets to organize team events to boost morale, according to one employee, who asked not to be named as they are not authorized to speak publicly. Another described the grueling period as “cockroach times.” Li leaned on internal memos during the crisis to communicate with employees and explain what he was trying to accomplish. In an all-staff memo in September, he said top management would forgo any cash compensation until the company reached “self-sufficiency.” “We can now see that this is not a quickly passing storm,” he wrote in a 1,000-word missive at the time. “With investors fleeing for ‘safe haven’ investments, we do not anticipate being able to raise funds in the market.” At one point, Sea was proud it could offer employees the fanciest tea in Singapore, perks commensurate with the tech giants of Silicon Valley, Li said in the interview. Now he wants to break that mindset: Sea has to compete on cost with the likes of Amazon, where early employees famously forged desks out of Home Depot doors because they were cheaper.Some employees in certain offices noticed that toilet paper got thinner. Sometimes it would run out because people used more.“We’re going to continually push down the costs,” he said. “It’s not just for saving but for running the business more efficiently. This is going to be the long-term mode for us.” After Sea cut its entertainment budget so employees could no longer spring for meals with suppliers or partners, Li encouraged staff to tell them the company couldn’t afford such things any more. Sea also called most staff in Southeast Asia back to office late last year, one of the first big internet firms to do so in the region. While Li acknowledges the road has been difficult, he said he had no doubt Sea could reach breakeven. He said the company’s path, in many ways, traces the precedents of Amazon and founder Jeff Bezos. Seattle-based Amazon consistently lost money for its first years as a public company, with Bezos maintaining that investing in growth was more important than quarterly earnings. Similarly, Sea built Shopee by burning more than a billion dollars a year before overtaking local e-commerce pioneer Tokopedia in Indonesia and Alibaba’s Lazada in Southeast Asia. Sea Shares on Recovery Path After 90% Slide from 2021 HighLi argues that Sea has a unique opportunity to bring e-commerce to emerging markets, the kinds of places where Amazon may be at a disadvantage. Success in these countries can depend on serving customers who live on remote islands, finding a payment solution where few people have credit cards or delivering parcels where there are no proper roads or postal codes. “It’s probably hard for the Silicon Valley innovator to think about those issues specifically,” Li said. While much of Sea’s expansion is in Asian markets like Indonesia, Li also thinks the company has an advantage in Brazil, where Shopee has had success since launching in 2019. With its 214 million population and decent per-capita income, he thinks the country is Sea’s most promising growth market. “We spent a lot of money when capital was relatively cheap and available, and it’s kind of an almost 10-year effort,” Li said of Brazil. These days, Li says he’s splitting his time between Singapore and California to stay close to the “mind-blowing” artificial intelligence revolution that’s taking place in Silicon Valley. He believes AI will play a big role in replacing much of the repetitive work for Sea’s e-commerce, gaming and fintech businesses. Gaming, in particular, is probably ahead of online shopping in terms of how people use AI to develop and play games by making it more interactive and immersive, he said.As the interview at Sea’s headquarters winds down, Li is asked whether company will be able to keep turning a profit every quarter. He cocked his head to the side and, with a laugh, said he can’t reveal too much since Sea is in a quiet period ahead of first-quarter results on May 16.But that’s not really the point, he added. The key thing is that Sea has been able to demonstrate for employees and investors that it can reach breakeven when it has to. So now, it can calibrate growth and profit depending on strategic priorities.“The numbers show that the destiny is in our own hands,” he said. “We sleep very well now.”","kind":null,"is_publish_news":null,"is_publish_highlight":null,"is_publish_live":null,"is_publish_wemedia":null,"editions":null,"symbols":[],"gpt_button":1},"commentList":[{"id":9970192189,"gmtCreate":1684123683841,"gmtModify":1684123687188,"author":{"id":"3578278614559162","authorId":"3578278614559162","name":"Muppy","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/51bd92f5e7a1327b1a0a9b7333dafa96","vip":1,"hat":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b0a2963eb37c60c5d6d4a8dbcd266952","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"htmlText":"Multibagger coming lfg","listText":"Multibagger coming lfg","text":"Multibagger coming lfg","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9970192189","repostId":1145646911,"repostType":2,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9970190480,"gmtCreate":1684118442440,"gmtModify":1684119544118,"author":{"id":"4109504542406510","authorId":"4109504542406510","name":"Pepermintpat","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/0804feddbf156f8e808003b7ca831628","vip":1,"hat":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0a8758340a08196056f8bc1e54805193","crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"htmlText":"This is the force n ability&nbsp;of biting bullets n gritting teeth","listText":"This is the force n ability&nbsp;of biting bullets n gritting teeth","text":"This is the force n ability of biting bullets n gritting teeth","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9970190480","repostId":1145646911,"repostType":2,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9970190014,"gmtCreate":1684118045138,"gmtModify":1684118048646,"author":{"id":"3575705860283755","authorId":"3575705860283755","name":"BitcoinMaxi","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e4a0d3f31ab627d7ead179da6e16f516","vip":1,"hat":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b073a07f77dbe6b3bec6b12311fde6bd","crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"htmlText":"Not the toilet paper! 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