If Tesla Is the Apple of Electric Vehicles, Volkswagen Is Betting It Can Be Samsung

Bloomberg2021-03-18

The German giant is set to spend tens of billions of dollars trying to catch up with the U.S. automaker “Let me begin with the obvious: e-mobility has won the race,” Herbert Diess, chief executive ...

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Hayz
2021-03-18
Hayz
Tesla has to keep ahead, or they will be just another EV company. Right now, I think Apple software is threatening, China is threatening with hardware pricing, others etc...etc....
Mccoy
2021-03-18
Mccoy
Competition is good for consumers
Kenwen
2021-03-18
Kenwen
Nio!!!
ytryy
2021-03-18
ytryy
Like and comment. Thanks
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Zsz
2021-03-18
Zsz
Agree
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2021-03-18
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