Chinese Stocks See Choppy Trade as Investors Debate Next Move

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Toby_Chua
10-15
Toby_Chua
Big funds shorting HKEX more to go
Sr1000
10-15
Sr1000
I mean that's not chop, the index went straight down!

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Officials promised new measures to support the property sector and hinted at greater government borrowing at a weekend briefing, without giving an amount.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e9ad6fa560ba4d5217bada462fe3247d\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"1200\" tg-height=\"675\"/></p><p>A divide is growing among global investors as the rally shows signs of cooling. Morgan Stanley Wealth Management warned that investors should steer clear of soaring Chinese equities as the stimulus measures won’t be enough to repair the struggling economy. Wells Fargo Investment Institute is also skeptical that the rebound will last given the depressed sentiment surrounding China’s consumers.</p><p>UBS Group AG still sees value, saying heightened retail investor interest should give stocks further upward momentum.</p><p>The latest economic reports show stimulus is much in need. Export growth slowed more than expected in September, curbing a trade rebound that has been a bright spot for a weakening economy. Loan expansion also disappointed in a sign of still weak domestic demand.</p><p>“China’s signal on policy stimulus prompted us to go modestly overweight, especially given depressed valuations,” strategists at BlackRock Investment Institute including Wei Li wrote in a note. “Details have been scant, so we could change our view if future announcements disappoint.”</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Chinese Stocks See Choppy Trade as Investors Debate Next Move</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nChinese Stocks See Choppy Trade as Investors Debate Next Move\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-10-15 11:38 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-10-15/chinese-stocks-see-choppy-trade-as-investors-debate-next-move?srnd=phx-latest><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>CSI 300 fluctuates after rising the most in a week on MondayTraders await clarity on size of China’s fiscal stimulusChinese stocks fluctuated in early trading Tuesday amid growing debate over how far ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-10-15/chinese-stocks-see-choppy-trade-as-investors-debate-next-move?srnd=phx-latest\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"000001.SH":"上证指数","HSTECH":"恒生科技指数","HSI":"恒生指数"},"source_url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-10-15/chinese-stocks-see-choppy-trade-as-investors-debate-next-move?srnd=phx-latest","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1160299597","content_text":"CSI 300 fluctuates after rising the most in a week on MondayTraders await clarity on size of China’s fiscal stimulusChinese stocks fluctuated in early trading Tuesday amid growing debate over how far the rally can go.The CSI 300 Index was down 0.52% as of 11:30 a.m. local time, after falling as much as 1.4% earlier. It rose 1.9% on Monday. A gauge of Chinese shares listed in Hong Kong slipped 1.28%.Volatility has gripped the market in recent sessions as investors assess the sustainability of the stimulus-driven rally that began late last month. While the size of Beijing’s planned fiscal boost remains unclear, media outlet Caixin reported that China may raise 6 trillion yuan ($846 billion) from ultra-long special government bonds over three years as part of its efforts to boost the sputtering economy.Following the central bank’s easing steps in late September, investors have been clamouring for the government to bolster fiscal spending. Officials promised new measures to support the property sector and hinted at greater government borrowing at a weekend briefing, without giving an amount.A divide is growing among global investors as the rally shows signs of cooling. Morgan Stanley Wealth Management warned that investors should steer clear of soaring Chinese equities as the stimulus measures won’t be enough to repair the struggling economy. Wells Fargo Investment Institute is also skeptical that the rebound will last given the depressed sentiment surrounding China’s consumers.UBS Group AG still sees value, saying heightened retail investor interest should give stocks further upward momentum.The latest economic reports show stimulus is much in need. Export growth slowed more than expected in September, curbing a trade rebound that has been a bright spot for a weakening economy. Loan expansion also disappointed in a sign of still weak domestic demand.“China’s signal on policy stimulus prompted us to go modestly overweight, especially given depressed valuations,” strategists at BlackRock Investment Institute including Wei Li wrote in a note. “Details have been scant, so we could change our view if future announcements disappoint.”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"}],"isCommentEnd":false,"newsSizeData":{"likeSize":6,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":2,"favoriteSize":0,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false},"APP":{"userAgent":"Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko; compatible; ClaudeBot/1.0; +claudebot@anthropic.com)","isDev":false,"isTTM":true,"deviceId":"web-server-community-laohu8-v3","version":"4.29.1","shortVersion":"4.29.1","platform":"web","vendor":"web","appName":"ttm","isIOS":false,"isAndroid":false,"isTiger":false,"isTHS":false,"isWeiXin":false,"isWeiXinMini":false,"isWeiBo":false,"isQQ":false,"isBaiduSwan":false,"isBaiduBox":false,"isDingTalk":false,"isToutiao":false,"isOnePlus":false,"isHuaWei":false,"isXiaomi":false,"isXiaomiWebView":false,"isOppo":false,"isVivo":false,"isSamsung":false,"isMobile":false},"href":"/m/news/1160299597"}