AMC is an amusing sideshow as the calm bull market forges ahead, pulling in billions from investors

CNBC2021-06-06

The market is big enough for apes and tortoises, with plenty of room for the army of primate traders chasing a 2,000% gain in AMC Entertainment and the quiet majority gradually sliding money into ...

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andrew123
2021-06-07
andrew123
Gone up too fast too much for comfort. Risk, return not worth. Stay out. Fundamental dont make sense to buy at this price
- Jo5tarz:
  all thanks to HFs
- MrTig3r:
  why
Yulio
2021-06-06
Yulio
Amazing
- Kiwii:
  yes！amazing! Did you buy ?
Jazling
2021-06-06
Jazling
Comment pls
- tearach:
  pls comment
3nn
2021-06-06
3nn
Big boys trying to cover their shorts again lol
- KnowWhen:
  [What]
Wontstop
2021-06-06
Wontstop
Response p
TooYoung
2021-06-06
TooYoung
The squeeze for AMC has not occur yet. It will definitely occur this coming week
- Cfgramos:
  Brace yourselves when this happens!

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They’ve since consolidated, in typical mean-reversion fashion, while maintaining their longer-term uptrend and supporting cyclical leadership within equities. The chart of the bank-stock index is a near-facsimile of the 10-year Treasury yield chart, just as the textbook would say it should be.\nFactSet’s John Butters spotlights how tightly the S&P 500 has tracked the upward revision in earnings forecasts for the second quarter. Score one for the rational-market believers.\nFactSet\nAnd while investors in total are carrying historically high exposure to stocks, Deutsche Bank is making the case that this aggressive positioning is in harmony with the economic-growth path as reflected in the ISM Manufacturing index.\nDeutsche Bank\nNone of this is to say the stock market is entirely efficient, correctly valued or dryly predictable. Even methodical tortoises can get overextended on equities. The market will have to contend with some economic deceleration, a decline in fiscal support and an eventual wind-down of Federal Reserve accommodation.\nAnd the voracious, indiscriminate gunning of upside call-option bets on AMC and a cluster of other viral “story stocks” is getting extreme again, not far short of January’s unprecedented peak. This action eventually qualifies as a contrarian indicator and a possible stressor on market function.\nAmusing sideshow\nBut the parallel coexistence of heedless momentum traders and methodical asset allocators does suggest that the meme-stock stampedes can be viewed as mostly an amusing sideshow rather than a speculative fever overtaking the tape. 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Did you buy ? ","text":"yes！amazing! Did you buy ? ","html":"yes！amazing! Did you buy ? 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It will definitely occur this coming week","listText":"The squeeze for AMC has not occur yet. It will definitely occur this coming week","text":"The squeeze for AMC has not occur yet. It will definitely occur this coming week","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/115978812","repostId":1162722289,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"comments":[{"id":4604989,"gmtCreate":1622995095652,"gmtModify":1663228066958,"authorId":3577318628836449,"author":{"id":3577318628836449,"authorId":3577318628836449,"name":"Cfgramos","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8e4f5dee285970cb0d50c61a4302a33f","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":115978812,"type":1,"supId":0,"prevId":0,"content":"Brace yourselves when this happens!","text":"Brace yourselves when this happens!","html":"Brace yourselves when this happens!"}],"langContent":"EN"}],"isCommentEnd":false,"newsSizeData":{"likeSize":81,"commentSize":33,"repostSize":0,"favoriteSize":0,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false},"APP":{"userAgent":"Mozilla/5.0 AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko; compatible; ClaudeBot/1.0; +claudebot@anthropic.com)","isDev":false,"isTTM":true,"deviceId":"web-server-community-laohu8-v3","version":"4.24.2","shortVersion":"4.24.2","platform":"web","vendor":"web","appName":"ttm","isIOS":false,"isAndroid":false,"isTiger":false,"isTHS":false,"isWeiXin":false,"isWeiXinMini":false,"isWeiBo":false,"isQQ":false,"isBaiduSwan":false,"isBaiduBox":false,"isDingTalk":false,"isToutiao":false,"isOnePlus":false,"isHuaWei":false,"isXiaomi":false,"isXiaomiWebView":false,"isOppo":false,"isVivo":false,"isSamsung":false,"isMobile":false},"href":"/m/news/1162722289"}