If You’re a Rivian Fan, Consider Buying Ford Instead

investorplace2022-04-21

Rivian (RIVN) recently got another analyst to cover RIVN stock.The analyst has set a price target below its current share price.Investors might want to buy Ford (F) instead.On April 11, Exane BNP ...

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Remotecam
2022-04-21
Remotecam
Preservation of Capital rule would prevent investing in both $Ford(F)$and $Rivian Automotive, Inc.(RIVN)$. Wait for an uptrend before considering both.
Leisuretrade
2022-04-21
Leisuretrade
being a fan cost you. Invest is something profitable.
HENRYCSC
2022-04-21
HENRYCSC
Ok
Shahfarid
2022-04-21
Shahfarid
Good read. Thanks
tigernaut
2022-04-21
tigernaut
👍
JC888
2022-04-21
JC888
A feel good writeup that tugs at your heart; without you realizing that its a death trap. Quote : Compared to Rivian’s 63% decline in 2022, Ford’s 26% drop doesn’t seem nearly as bad. It could be worse. Detroit rival General Motors (NYSE:GM) is down 31% YTD Unquote. Wonder if any investor wouldn't mind if their investment have fallen by 26%, 31%, 63%; for me i will freak out. How much time is required for them to get back into the Green ? More importantly, EV production is not running at optimum capacity yet. Need to wait until EU & Chinese EVs flood the US market then panic ? By then it might be a tad too late ?

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As for RIVN stock, it has a target price of $35, more than 6% below where it’s currently trading.Barron’s contributor Al Root reported the analyst had good and bad things to say about the electric truck and SUV manufacturer. He believes Rivian is the real deal, but the company’s 20% price increase in early March suggests its products are unprofitable.Despite relenting, the company’s shares fell on the news. They’ve since stabilized. However, if you’re considering buying RIVN stock, you might want to opt for Ford (NYSE:F) instead. Here’s why.Buying Ford Gives You RIVN StockIf you’ve got your heart set on buying Rivian stock, it’s important to remember that Ford owns 11.4% of the electric vehicle (EV) startup. At Rivian’s current share price, that’s worth $3.8 billion based on 101.95 million shares. 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Our relationship with Ford is an important part of our journey, and Ford remains an investor and ally on our shared path to an electrified future,” CNBC reported the company said in an emailed statement.My guess is Ford will take some of its chips off the table in the next couple of quarters, hanging on to about 6% to keep its options open.The F-150 EV Lightning Versus Rivian’s R1TThe official launch of the Ford-150 Lightning is on April 26. That is the day CEO Bill Farley takes a victory lap for delivering on the company’s 2019 promise to build an electric version of the iconic vehicle.At a starting price under $40,000, America’s favorite pickup truck will become even more popular. It’s sold out for 2022 with more than 200,000 reservations. However, with Ford only making 150,000 per year, if you’re not on the list, don’t expect a vehicle delivery until 2023 or 2024.Rivian brings to the competition its R1T pickup truck. While it’s interesting to look at, the electric version of the F-150 has a range of up to 320 miles, six miles more than the R1T. Furthermore, the R1T comes with a starting price of almost $80,000, twice the starting price for the F-150.Another big negative against Rivian stock is the big about-face it was forced to make in early March when it tried to raise prices on its vehicles. The company was prepared to raise prices across the board until its reservation holders starting canceling their preorders due to the $12,000 increase.Due to the backlash, Rivian reversed its decision. Anyone who preordered and canceled was able to get back on the list without paying the extra amount. However, the move tarnished the company’s reputation for transparency and trust. That, ultimately, could reduce the 55,400 preorder backlog as it ratchets up production.In the end, Ford has four times the reservations Rivian has. 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However, once the kinks in the supply chain get worked out, Ford will become a free cash flow gusher.","kind":null,"is_publish_news":true,"is_publish_highlight":true,"is_publish_live":false,"is_publish_wemedia":null,"editions":null,"column":"","sentiment":"0","news_tag":"","news_rank":0,"symbols":[],"gpt_button":1},"commentList":[{"id":9082182013,"gmtCreate":1650539666342,"gmtModify":1676534747066,"author":{"id":"4093854476996450","authorId":"4093854476996450","name":"Remotecam","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f856a0a30bd0fa23a086fc678014e48b","vip":1,"crmLevel":6,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"idStr":"4093854476996450","authorIdStr":"4093854476996450"},"htmlText":"Preservation of Capital rule would prevent investing in both <a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/F\">$Ford(F)$</a>and&nbsp;<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/RIVN\">$Rivian Automotive, Inc.(RIVN)$</a>.&nbsp; Wait for an uptrend before considering both.&nbsp;","listText":"Preservation of Capital rule would prevent investing in both <a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/F\">$Ford(F)$</a>and&nbsp;<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/RIVN\">$Rivian Automotive, Inc.(RIVN)$</a>.&nbsp; Wait for an uptrend before considering both.&nbsp;","text":"Preservation of Capital rule would prevent investing in both $Ford(F)$and $Rivian Automotive, Inc.(RIVN)$. 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