September May Bring The S&P 500 Back To Its June Lows

Seeking Alpha2022-09-03

SummaryThe S&P 500 has fallen sharply in recent days, as the dovish pivot has vanished.An FOMC meeting and a slew of economic data will make September very volatile.Rising rates and uncertainty could ...

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Not buy the dip. Is buy the crash in next 2 weeks.
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The increase in CPI for August would be slightly slower than 8.5% for July, while core CPI would be somewhat faster than the 5.9% y/y change.BloombergA rising core CPI and a strong employment report could push the Fed to raise rates by 75 bps in September. While markets are leaning towards a 75 bps rate hike in September, they aren't convinced, with current odds at just 62%.CME GroupOn top of that September tends to be, on average over the past 30 years, the weakest month with an average decline of -0.34%. The declines have been as much as 11%, and the gains have been as much as 8.8%.BloombergS&P 500 Valuation Is Rich Versus BondsData and questions around the next Fed meeting will create a lot of volatility in an already weak time of the year. Interest rates have risen dramatically since Jackson Hole, pushing the S&P 500's valuation to historically high levels relative to the 10-yr yield, with a current spread between the earnings yield and the 10-yr rate now at 2.47%. 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This means the Fed should remain on course to raise rates to around 4% by the middle of 2023, as the Fed Funds Futures are pricing. Given that, it will be tough for an equity rally to see a sustained advance.BloombergAs rates continue to price higher, not only will nominal rates climb, but so will real rates, and currently, the 5-year and 10-Yr TIP rates have climbed right back to or above their cycle highs. This means that if real rates are rising, shouldn't the earnings yield of the S&P 500 be rising too? After all, they have followed each other this closely for the past five years; shouldn't that continue well into the future?BloombergUnless, of course, you still think the Fed will make a dovish pivot.","kind":null,"is_publish_news":null,"is_publish_highlight":null,"is_publish_live":null,"is_publish_wemedia":null,"editions":null,"symbols":[],"gpt_button":1},"commentList":[{"id":9933215838,"gmtCreate":1662295594425,"gmtModify":1676537032247,"author":{"id":"3572043809285615","authorId":"3572043809285615","name":"NP_YT","avatar":"https://static.itradeup.com/news/fad9f70abb174e3e09e4caf3f9c0c13a","vip":1,"crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"Ok","listText":"Ok","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9933215838","repostId":1184784977,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9933206704,"gmtCreate":1662286932808,"gmtModify":1676537031226,"author":{"id":"3581845207696926","authorId":"3581845207696926","name":"Icecream29","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6746e5ce0bf3204954f46e4cb8b1d034","vip":1,"crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0},"htmlText":"ok","listText":"ok","text":"ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9933206704","repostId":1184784977,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"comments":[{"id":103764865,"gmtCreate":1662286939003,"gmtModify":1663258175144,"authorId":3581845207696926,"author":{"id":3581845207696926,"authorId":3581845207696926,"name":"Icecream29","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6746e5ce0bf3204954f46e4cb8b1d034","vip":1,"crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":9933206704,"type":1,"supId":0,"prevId":0,"content":"<span class=\"s1\">ok</span>","text":"<span class=\"s1\">ok</span>","html":"<span class=\"s1\">ok</span>"}],"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9933864875,"gmtCreate":1662261398497,"gmtModify":1676537026860,"author":{"id":"4109553842414360","authorId":"4109553842414360","name":"Tyk23","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/27154973b2c57dc48ff0ce61f14b937f","vip":1,"crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1},"htmlText":"Not buy the dip. 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