VinFast’s 504% Rally Burns Traders Playing Greater Fool Theory

Bloomberg2023-09-10

Vietnamese EV maker was briefly worth more than McDonald’sTiny-float firms draw traders looking to steer stock directionVinFast LLC's EV VF8 vehicles bound for shipment at the port in Haiphong, ...

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setia100
2023-09-11
setia100
Wisemen think alike 😲
Mccoy
2023-09-11
Mccoy
Pump and dump
Miker9110
2023-09-10
Miker9110
Wow

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It’s a company reminiscent of Rivian Automotive Inc. and Lucid Group Inc., which saw huge rallies before plunging as Wall Street grappled with their abilities to reliably make and sell vehicles. Each stock is down close to 90% from their record intraday highs, implying VinFast’s still-lofty valuation could have some way to go.But that won’t deter traders, many of whom started investing during the pandemic. 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