Earnings season starts with sky-high stock prices and soaring expectations

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Earnings season begins with two major tailwinds: sky-high prices and soaring expectations. On paper, second-quarter earnings season looks like the mother of all earnings reports, with estimates having...

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WStreetsBets
2021-07-13
WStreetsBets
Soaring expectations is not a good thing … the season of “sell on news” has begun.
dw321
2021-07-13
dw321
Up and up and up
JadynY
2021-07-13
JadynY
good reading [Smile]
- Yao84:
  Yes
moneytome
2021-07-13
moneytome
Future looking good
Jc95
2021-07-13
Jc95
Very nice
Hap
2021-07-13
Hap
Ok

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permanent feature of the reporting landscape.\nHistorically, reported earnings tend to beat expectations by 3% to 5%, that is, companies usually manage to eke out a small positive surprise in their earnings reports.\nBut the last four quarters have blown apart those historical averages.\nEarnings blowout\n(difference between end of quarter estimates vs. reported estimates)\n\nQ2 20     12.6%\nQ3 20      15.5%\nQ420       13.2%\nQ121       28.7%\n\nSource:  FactSet\nPut it all together, and the average \"beat\" for the last four quarters is about 18 percentage points above analyst estimates.\nCan the market pull off yet another 18% to 20% earnings beat?  It looks like the market is anticipating exactly that. The second quarter dollar estimates are below the first quarter, even though corporate profits are clearly stronger, implying analysts are wrong again.\n2021 earnings\n($ per share, rounded)\n\nQ1:  $49 (up 52%)\nQ2:  $45 (up 65%)\nQ3:  $48 (up 25%)\nQ4:  $50 (up 18%)\n\nSource:  Refinitiv\nThe per share dollar gain is $49 for Q1, but only $45 for Q2.  The dollar value of the S&P earnings for the second quarter is well below the first quarter, which makes no sense if the second quarter economy is even stronger than the first quarter.\nThe market seems to be clearly implying another quarter of big earnings beats, higher than the even 65% growth analysts are already expected.\n\"Markets clearly believe Q2 earnings reports will far exceed expectations,\" Nicholas Colas from DataTrek said in a recent note to clients.  \"The 'right' earnings growth rate for Q2 is likely closer to 80 percent assuming S&P EPS is only the same as Q1 2021...It could be closer to 100 percent if US corporate earnings power has improved since then.\"\nNearly two dozen companies have already reported earnings, and many of the largest have indeed pulled off impressive earnings beats:\nEarly performers\n(% beat)\n\nNike          82%\nKroger       18%\nCostco       18%\nOracle        17%\nFedEx         in-line\n\nThe exception, FedEx, reported merely in-line earnings on June 24th after the close, and has traded below its price on that day ever since.\nAre earnings really that good?\nA 65% increase in earnings sounds titanic, but it's only because the Covid crisis reached its peak in the second quarter last year, and earnings predictably collapsed, as Christine Short from Wall Street Horizon noted.\n\"In this regard, because Q2 2020 is an easy YoY comparison, it's best to compare to years prior,\" she said in a recent note. \"For example, Q2 2021 growth is only 8.3% when compared to Q2 2019, which seems like a more realistic picture of the current rebound phase and growth trajectory we're on. But don't get me wrong, 8.3% is still a great growth rate in any quarter, well above the 5-year average earnings growth rate of 4.1%.\"\nBottom line: Earnings growth is still above historic norms, even after accounting for Covid.\nWhat's up with costs?\nBesides sky-high expectations, higher costs and pricing power are a major flashpoint for second quarter earnings.\nTake MSC Industrial Direct, a distributor of industrial supplies.  It recently reported strong earnings and said demand was \"robust\" but also reported much higher costs.  \"The industrial economy is experiencing very real supply chain shortages and disruptions,\" the company said on a conference call. \"These disruptions are evidencing themselves in product scarcity, freight delays, and extreme labor shortages that are resulting in significant availability and inflationary pressures.\"\nHowever, the company has also been raising prices as costs have increased.\n\"What's going to be important in this earnings season is who can have revenue growth and keep their operating margins,\" Sarat Sethi, managing partner and portfolio manager at DCLA and a CNBC contributor, said on our air. \"If you can't raise your prices or you can't raise revenue, you can't expand, I think those stocks that have already reflected really good futures could get hurt.\"\n Are big earnings beats here to stay?\nDon't bet on it.\nFortunately, earnings estimates for the third quarter have also been rising.  \"Q3 earnings estimates have risen fairly close in tandem with Q2 estimates,\" CNBC's Robert Humreports.\nBut don't expect earnings beats of 20% to become the new normal.\n\"This [20% earnings beats] will not be a permanent feature,\" Nick Raich, who tracks corporate earnings at Earnings Scout, told me.  \"Long-term the beat rate will come down to the more historic norm of five percent. But it could take a year to get back to normal.  What will bring that down is more guidance from the companies.  Those 20% beats are only happening because the guidance has been fuzzy.  Once it gets sharper, analyst estimates will get closer to the actual guidance.\"\nRaich is urging investors to focus less on the beat rate, and more on the revisions.  You want estimates to keep rising.\n\"The peak percentage rate of growth is likely in the second quarter.  But I am looking for peak optimism, which is based on how much the estimates are going up after companies report.  It's not just the direction, it's the magnitude.  If estimates go up at a decreasing rate, that's when we know we hit peak optimism,\" he said.\nFor Nick Colas, it's a lot simpler:  \"U.S. earnings season needs to be awesome\" to keep prices up, he 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