Some on Wall Street try options trade to bet against AMC without getting burned

StreetInsider2021-06-07

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Some Wall Street traders are betting against another massive rally in AMC Entertainment Holdings Inc and other "meme" stocks this week through a type of wager in the options ...

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FlorCheah
2021-06-07
FlorCheah
Irresistable stock
gargarteo
2021-06-07
gargarteo
The high pricing of the options because of the incredibly high IV is making a bear put spread reallyreally tempting too :/
- szueyann:
  ???
XiaTian
2021-06-07
XiaTian
Money game money for pocket money
Alfieonsus
2021-06-07
Alfieonsus
HF in disguise trying to confuse the ape nation with different tactics ??? we no confuse we only know hodl!
Cindypoonyw
2021-06-07
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2021-06-07
Shirron
Interesting
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