Risk of 'hard' stock-market valuation correction is growing, says Deutsche Bank -- here's why

MarketWatch2021-09-11

High multiples reflect 'market confusion over where we are in the earnings cycle': Chadha Lost in the earnings cycle? Stock-market valuations are "historically extreme" by almost every measure. And ...

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Power1
2021-09-13
Power1
Aiyo I m waiting to let go. Don’t know when is the best time
rachellll
2021-09-11
rachellll
?
- rachellll:
  ?
aliciatng
2021-09-11
aliciatng
Okay can
PanaCota
2021-09-11
PanaCota
Ok
- aliciatng:
  ok
Greg2021
2021-09-11
Greg2021
Keep invested!
- valueTrader:
  probably will move higher first
AJAJ
2021-09-11
AJAJ
Ok correction is unavoidable

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