Amazon Used Secret "Project Nessie" Algorithm to Raise Prices

The Wall Street Journal2023-10-04

Amazon.com used an algorithm code-named "Project Nessie" to test how much it could raise prices in a way that competitors would follow, according to redacted portions of the Federal Trade Commission's...

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In instances where competitors didn't raise their prices to Amazon's level, the algorithm -- which is no longer in use -- automatically returned the item to its normal price point.The company also used Nessie on what employees saw as a promotional spiral, where Amazon would match a discounted price from a competitor, such as Target.com, and other competitors would follow, lowering their prices. When Target ended its sale, Amazon and the other competitors would remain locked at the low price because they were still matching each other, according to former employees who worked on the algorithm and pricing team.The algorithm helped Amazon recoup money and improve margins. 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If they offer lower prices elsewhere, Amazon \"punishes\" them, according to the FTC, downgrading their listings so that shoppers don't see them.The FTC alleges that because Amazon's cost to sell is higher than other platforms due to its fees, it creates a higher price point for goods across retail, since sellers must use their Amazon price as their floor.Fees and charges to Amazon sellers have exploded in recent years, and the company now pockets nearly half of the dollar amount for every sale a third-party makes on the platform.A new report from the Institute for Local Self-Reliance, a research and advocacy group, found that between 2014 and 2023, Amazon's cut of third-party seller sales rose from 19% to 45%. The report includes Amazon's fees related to selling on the platform, advertising on it and fulfillment of orders. More than 60% of Amazon's retail sales come from third-party sellers.The FTC alleges that sellers feel compelled to use Amazon's logistics program to be eligible for inclusion in Amazon's Prime program, and they buy advertisements on Amazon.com to ensure they reach its vast pool of customers.\"Amazon's one-two punch of seller punishments and high seller fees often forces sellers to use their inflated Amazon prices as a price floor everywhere else,\" the complaint says.Amazon in its statement said it is a trusted partner for millions of sellers because it provides \"the most effective set of services for creating thriving, successful businesses\" and has invested billions of dollars to aid sellers. It also said it provides its merchants with choices, and that sellers can succeed without using the company's advertising or logistics services.Internally, some Amazon executives have worried about how the company's policies affected pricing throughout retail, some said. For instance, if an Amazon seller making a hat lists it at $20 on Amazon.com in order to cover their shipping costs, referral fee and advertising costs, it must also charge $20 for that hat on its own website, though the cost of doing business would be much less if a buyer bought directly from them because there would be no referral fees or advertising costs.FTC Chair Lina Khan originally argued in her 2017 Yale Law Review article that Amazon hurt its rivals by heavily discounting. However, the substance of the FTC complaint is focused on Amazon's ability to raise prices. Antitrust experts pointed out that often the behavior of a company differs when it is building a monopoly, where it may cut prices to hurt rivals and grow market share, and maintaining one, where it has the freedom to now raise prices and degrade services because there are fewer viable rivals.The FTC's complaint also alleged that advertising is required in order for sellers to be successful.\"It's become pay to play,\" said Brandon Fuhrmann, an Amazon merchant who sells kitchen products. Because Amazon in recent years has given more space in search results to advertising, merchants say they feel forced to pay for the advertisements.Amazon has made improvements for sellers throughout the years. Merchants said the company has gotten better at communicating issues, and it has provided them with greater analytical tools to measure their sales performance. 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