An ex-Meta employee calculated that his family of 3 needs $5.6 million to retire in San Francisco. Here's the formula he used and how he plans to hit his 'enough number.'

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When Andre Nader got laid off, he and his wife had enough in savings that he didn't have to job search.He doesn't consider himself fully financially independent, as his wife still works.To go from '...

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He also takes on more of the parenting responsibilities. His \"enough number\" is constantly shifting, but here's how he came up with $5.6 million for a family of three living in San Francisco.Nader's approach to answering this question involves three main factors: annual spend, healthcare, and education.\"I want a number that represents me not having to make sacrifices,\" he said. In other words, as he writes on his blog, \"I want to be able to eat avocado toast every day while being 30 minutes from the beach without needing to work.\" He also wants to be able to afford good healthcare and cover his daughter's future education costs.Nader first considered how much his family spends a year, which, at the time, came out to $140,000. That number allows you to work backward to determine how big of a nest egg you'd need to maintain that level of spending in retirement. Many members of the FIRE community use the \"4% rule,\" which suggests that you can safely withdraw 4% annually from your nest egg. For example, if you retire with $1 million, you should be able to withdraw $40,000 from your retirement funds each year without running out of money. To figure out your number using this rule, you simply multiply your annual spending by 25.Nader prefers to use a more conservative 3% safe withdrawal rate, which you can calculate by multiplying your annual number by 33.33. Spending $140,000 a year would mean having $4.67 million in savings.Next, Nader considered healthcare, which is \"the biggest unknown factor\" that early retirees deal with, he said: \"We have the benefit now of the Affordable Care Act being able to go to the marketplace and estimate how much my expenses would be, assuming those subsidies, but those are things that can change. The subsidies could still be there, they might not be there, so being able to estimate how much I need for healthcare costs is always one that's tricky.\"His estimate, which factored in healthcare premiums, copays, medicine, and out-of-pocket expenses, came to $25,900 a year.He assumed healthcare would increase at the same rate of inflation and, using the same 3% withdrawal calculation, determined he'd need an extra $863,000 ($25,900 x 33.33) for this particular spending bucket.Finally, Nader's \"enough number\" factors in his daughter's education. He wants to be able to cover at least four years of public college in California.Using UC Berkeley's cost (including room and board) and adjusting for inflation, he budgeted $321,000 total. Assuming an 8% annual return (he's investing this money in a 529 savings plan), he'd need a lump sum of $125,000 to cover the $321,000 cost in 12 years when his daughter goes to college.Those three factors \"got me to my 5.6 million-and-change number for 2024 at my current spend, as of six months ago,\" said Nader. He added a few caveats, including that his estimate does not fully account for taxes, he's not factoring in Social Security or Medicare, and he's assuming no changes in expenses after his daughter graduates from college.He's hyper-aware that life happens, and his expenses and circumstances will continue to change. 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