If Tesla can’t profit from car

2021-05-01

If Tesla can’t profit from car sales, traditional car makers are unlikely to do so as well

1 Question Tesla Investors Need to Ask Themselves

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TSS
2021-05-01
TSS
Needs to compare apple to apple
- OWQ:
  ??
Boo2bear
2021-05-01
Boo2bear
Competition creeps in and Tsla does not control the software. That's one deciding factor for long term survival.
bzlim
2021-05-01
bzlim
Hard to say. Since they would have been optimizing their manufacturing for decades.
Wei_118
2021-05-01
Wei_118
different strengths
Muan
2021-05-01
Muan
true
- Deont:
  Yea

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