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2021-06-02

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Apple Stock Vs. Google Stock: Which Is The Better Buy?

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Google Stock: Which Is The Better Buy?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1152687413","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Summary\n\nApple is generally the most owned stock by retail investors at any given time. Google, also","content":"Summary\n<ul>\n <li>Apple is generally the most owned stock by retail investors at any given time. Google, also known as Alphabet, is a favorite of institutional investors.</li>\n <li>Both companies have made tens of thousands of employees and shareholders multi-millionaires, but going forward, I believe one stock offers better prospects than the other.</li>\n <li>I compare Apple and Google on valuation, growth prospects, institutional ownership, and volatility.</li>\n</ul>\n<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c1d1935740482372c9374a4036065586\" tg-width=\"768\" tg-height=\"511\">Photo by dicus63/iStock via Getty Images\nApple (AAPL) and Google (GOOG) are two great American success stories, with each making tens of thousands of shareholders and employees multimillionaires. A 2012 analysis by&nbsp;Reuters&nbsp;ballparked the average Apple corporate employee as having vested over their career about&nbsp;$3.4 million in AAPL before taxes, today with the 10x higher share price but more employees to divide by, I would guess this number would probably be around $10-$20 million before taxes (with senior people obviously having earned more and junior having earned less). Google is known for being even more generous with stock grants. When the company went public, theNew York Timesreported that stock options made the company&nbsp;masseuse a multi-millionaire, among many other employees. Google and Apple created great wealth, but Microsoft (MSFT) takes the cake for employee millionaires,creating over 10,000 millionaires. As fate would have it, my dad lived in Seattle in the 1980s when Microsoft was in its early days–he turned down a job offer from Microsoft for reasons unknown.\nHere in theSeeking Alphacomment section, there are more than a few shareholders who have become multi-millionaires from investing in technology stocks, especially Apple. Since 2004 (when Google went public), both Google and Apple have seen remarkable success, with Apple returning about $240 (including dividends) on a $1 investment as of my writing this, and Google returning $47. Google clearly executed its business plan well, but Apple hit a home run when they launched the best-selling product of all time (iPhone).\n<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b68434cfa2b94b754cfa88ed1118e7ea\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"452\">Data by YCharts\nTheir success didn't happen overnight, however, rather it accumulated over time. This gave savvy investors many chances (and second chances) to buy in and join in the party. Apple, in particular, did not see a linear path to success, the company we know today would barely be recognizable in 1997 (before the graph starts) when Steve Jobs returned to a company&nbsp;at the brink of bankruptcy. Google, on the other hand, executed far more quietly, with less drama, intrigue, and publicity.\nLet's start our analysis by looking at valuations for both Apple and Google.\nValuation: Apple Vs. Google\nApple currently trades for&nbsp;24x 2021 earnings estimates. For reference, the S&amp;P 500 (SPY) trades for about 21.5x earnings.\n<ul>\n <li>For most of the past decade, Apple has traded between&nbsp;10x and 20x earnings.</li>\n <li>As recently as 2018, Apple traded for 12-13x earnings.</li>\n <li>Apple's valuation has risen in large part due to the growth in its services segment, which allows Apple to make money from existing iPhones rather than having to go out and sell tons of new phones every year.</li>\n <li>Apple probably deserves to trade at a higher valuation than before, but 24x seems a little high to me because their growth in earnings per share has been driven in large part by share buybacks (which require a low valuation to be very effective in the long run), and while overall&nbsp;net income for the company has grown over the last 5 years, it has been a bumpy ride–one that was helped greatly by the cut in the US corporate tax rate in 2017.</li>\n</ul>\nGoogle Class A stock (GOOGL),which is the class you should buy&nbsp;currently trades for 27x its 2021 earnings estimates.\n<ul>\n <li>Googlehas generally tradedat 20-30x earnings in the past decade.</li>\n <li>Google is a lot more of a traditional growth stock in the smoothness and growth rate over recent years.</li>\n <li>Google's P/E ratio has declined over time as the company has grown larger, while Apple's has increased.</li>\n <li>Google has a higher expected earnings growth rate than Apple does.</li>\n</ul>\nApple Vs. Google Earnings Growth Prospects\nApple's best bet for growth is to sell a ton of iPhones to consumers and then get them paying for services, which they've been successful at doing thus far in the 2020s. Consensus analyst estimates for Apple go out to 2023, and they show growth, but nothing crazy. Estimates have risen greatly since the pandemic lows.\n<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b0a757e1d090a7852ba8eea5d581221c\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"436\">Data by YCharts\nOne irony of Apple's services revenue is that Google is their largest customer, paying somewhere in the neighborhood of a billion dollars per month to be the default search engine on iPhones. Apple essentially collects a royalty on its iPhones from Google, but how Google makes its money is interesting as well, from selling ads. Apple&nbsp;has discussed starting their own search engine, but they would give up the passive money Google gives them, which is pure profit for Apple and around 15-20 percent of its net income, for the entire company. One potential downside risk for both companies is that the US government declares them to be monopolies and breaks them up in one way or another. I view this as a remote possibility, but a possibility nonetheless.\nAccording to analysts, Google's growth prospects are sunnier, with advertising revenue expected to grow more or less like clockwork over time.\n<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d4b74f5aab048ea890930972845c281d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"436\">Data by YCharts\nGoogle is expected to see healthy growth in revenue and net income, and fundamentally, there are continued tailwinds for earnings.\n<ul>\n <li>The pandemic helped Google as advertisers found that Google, YouTube, etc. is a more effective way to advertise than traditional outlets like TV.</li>\n <li>As more people globally get internet access and the global economies grow, Google benefits from a double tailwind.</li>\n</ul>\nAAPL Vs. GOOGL: Institutional Ownership and Volatility\nBack when&nbsp;Robintrack&nbsp;still had data, it generally indicated that Apple was the most widely held stock by retail investors. OnSeeking Alpha, Apple has the greatest number of followers of any ticker, so I generally think that Apple is the most commonly held stock by retail investors. Retail investors have strange taste in stocks, besides Apple, they generally love automakers and airlines, as well as whatever is going up the fastest at the moment, be it Dogecoin (DOGE-USD),AMC, or GameStop(NYSE:GME). In the case of Apple, anyone who bought and held would have made a killing. Another factor that kept retail investors out of Google in the past is the high share price. Many of the best-performing stocks in the market have high share prices because they don't split their stock. With fractional shares today, this is far less of an issue.\nInstitutional investors like university endowments and pension funds have their own biases, but overall they tend to invest in the fastest-growing stocks.Popular stocks with institutional investors&nbsp;are perennial favorites like PayPal(NASDAQ:PYPL), Google, Visa(NYSE:V), and Mastercard(NYSE:MA). Google is one of the most popular stocks among institutional investors, while Apple is one of the most popular stocks with retail investors. I owned Apple stock for a long time, but with the current valuation, I'd honestly like to see it at or below $100 before I'd commit money to it. With Google, the current valuation may look high, but growth in earnings could easily make the purchase price look like a bargain 2-3 years down the road.\nApple is more volatile than Google, and this effect has increased in recent years. Apple's&nbsp;worst drawdown&nbsp;in the past decade is about 40 percent, while Google's worst drawdown is about 28 percent. I'd give an advantage to Google here.\nConclusion\nApple and Google are both popular tech stocks. Apple is a fan favorite with retail investors, while Google is popular with institutions. Both trade for slightly higher valuations than the S&amp;P 500 as a whole, and Google is slightly more expensive relative to earnings than Apple. The analyst consensus is that Google has better growth prospects than Apple at the moment, and I agree with this. Apple has returned more than Google has since Google became publicly traded in 2004. Apple stock is more volatile than Google and has historically seen more drawdowns and threats to its business.\nOverall, I find Google a buy at current prices and would wait for a pullback to $100 to buy Apple.","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Apple Stock Vs. 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Google, also known as Alphabet, is a favorite of institutional investors.\nBoth companies have made tens of ...\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432451-google-stock-vs-apple-stock-better-buy\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"AAPL":"苹果","GOOGL":"谷歌A","GOOG":"谷歌"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4432451-google-stock-vs-apple-stock-better-buy","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1152687413","content_text":"Summary\n\nApple is generally the most owned stock by retail investors at any given time. Google, also known as Alphabet, is a favorite of institutional investors.\nBoth companies have made tens of thousands of employees and shareholders multi-millionaires, but going forward, I believe one stock offers better prospects than the other.\nI compare Apple and Google on valuation, growth prospects, institutional ownership, and volatility.\n\nPhoto by dicus63/iStock via Getty Images\nApple (AAPL) and Google (GOOG) are two great American success stories, with each making tens of thousands of shareholders and employees multimillionaires. A 2012 analysis by Reuters ballparked the average Apple corporate employee as having vested over their career about $3.4 million in AAPL before taxes, today with the 10x higher share price but more employees to divide by, I would guess this number would probably be around $10-$20 million before taxes (with senior people obviously having earned more and junior having earned less). Google is known for being even more generous with stock grants. When the company went public, theNew York Timesreported that stock options made the company masseuse a multi-millionaire, among many other employees. Google and Apple created great wealth, but Microsoft (MSFT) takes the cake for employee millionaires,creating over 10,000 millionaires. As fate would have it, my dad lived in Seattle in the 1980s when Microsoft was in its early days–he turned down a job offer from Microsoft for reasons unknown.\nHere in theSeeking Alphacomment section, there are more than a few shareholders who have become multi-millionaires from investing in technology stocks, especially Apple. Since 2004 (when Google went public), both Google and Apple have seen remarkable success, with Apple returning about $240 (including dividends) on a $1 investment as of my writing this, and Google returning $47. Google clearly executed its business plan well, but Apple hit a home run when they launched the best-selling product of all time (iPhone).\nData by YCharts\nTheir success didn't happen overnight, however, rather it accumulated over time. This gave savvy investors many chances (and second chances) to buy in and join in the party. Apple, in particular, did not see a linear path to success, the company we know today would barely be recognizable in 1997 (before the graph starts) when Steve Jobs returned to a company at the brink of bankruptcy. Google, on the other hand, executed far more quietly, with less drama, intrigue, and publicity.\nLet's start our analysis by looking at valuations for both Apple and Google.\nValuation: Apple Vs. Google\nApple currently trades for 24x 2021 earnings estimates. For reference, the S&P 500 (SPY) trades for about 21.5x earnings.\n\nFor most of the past decade, Apple has traded between 10x and 20x earnings.\nAs recently as 2018, Apple traded for 12-13x earnings.\nApple's valuation has risen in large part due to the growth in its services segment, which allows Apple to make money from existing iPhones rather than having to go out and sell tons of new phones every year.\nApple probably deserves to trade at a higher valuation than before, but 24x seems a little high to me because their growth in earnings per share has been driven in large part by share buybacks (which require a low valuation to be very effective in the long run), and while overall net income for the company has grown over the last 5 years, it has been a bumpy ride–one that was helped greatly by the cut in the US corporate tax rate in 2017.\n\nGoogle Class A stock (GOOGL),which is the class you should buy currently trades for 27x its 2021 earnings estimates.\n\nGooglehas generally tradedat 20-30x earnings in the past decade.\nGoogle is a lot more of a traditional growth stock in the smoothness and growth rate over recent years.\nGoogle's P/E ratio has declined over time as the company has grown larger, while Apple's has increased.\nGoogle has a higher expected earnings growth rate than Apple does.\n\nApple Vs. Google Earnings Growth Prospects\nApple's best bet for growth is to sell a ton of iPhones to consumers and then get them paying for services, which they've been successful at doing thus far in the 2020s. Consensus analyst estimates for Apple go out to 2023, and they show growth, but nothing crazy. Estimates have risen greatly since the pandemic lows.\nData by YCharts\nOne irony of Apple's services revenue is that Google is their largest customer, paying somewhere in the neighborhood of a billion dollars per month to be the default search engine on iPhones. Apple essentially collects a royalty on its iPhones from Google, but how Google makes its money is interesting as well, from selling ads. Apple has discussed starting their own search engine, but they would give up the passive money Google gives them, which is pure profit for Apple and around 15-20 percent of its net income, for the entire company. One potential downside risk for both companies is that the US government declares them to be monopolies and breaks them up in one way or another. I view this as a remote possibility, but a possibility nonetheless.\nAccording to analysts, Google's growth prospects are sunnier, with advertising revenue expected to grow more or less like clockwork over time.\nData by YCharts\nGoogle is expected to see healthy growth in revenue and net income, and fundamentally, there are continued tailwinds for earnings.\n\nThe pandemic helped Google as advertisers found that Google, YouTube, etc. is a more effective way to advertise than traditional outlets like TV.\nAs more people globally get internet access and the global economies grow, Google benefits from a double tailwind.\n\nAAPL Vs. GOOGL: Institutional Ownership and Volatility\nBack when Robintrack still had data, it generally indicated that Apple was the most widely held stock by retail investors. OnSeeking Alpha, Apple has the greatest number of followers of any ticker, so I generally think that Apple is the most commonly held stock by retail investors. Retail investors have strange taste in stocks, besides Apple, they generally love automakers and airlines, as well as whatever is going up the fastest at the moment, be it Dogecoin (DOGE-USD),AMC, or GameStop(NYSE:GME). In the case of Apple, anyone who bought and held would have made a killing. Another factor that kept retail investors out of Google in the past is the high share price. Many of the best-performing stocks in the market have high share prices because they don't split their stock. With fractional shares today, this is far less of an issue.\nInstitutional investors like university endowments and pension funds have their own biases, but overall they tend to invest in the fastest-growing stocks.Popular stocks with institutional investors are perennial favorites like PayPal(NASDAQ:PYPL), Google, Visa(NYSE:V), and Mastercard(NYSE:MA). Google is one of the most popular stocks among institutional investors, while Apple is one of the most popular stocks with retail investors. I owned Apple stock for a long time, but with the current valuation, I'd honestly like to see it at or below $100 before I'd commit money to it. With Google, the current valuation may look high, but growth in earnings could easily make the purchase price look like a bargain 2-3 years down the road.\nApple is more volatile than Google, and this effect has increased in recent years. Apple's worst drawdown in the past decade is about 40 percent, while Google's worst drawdown is about 28 percent. I'd give an advantage to Google here.\nConclusion\nApple and Google are both popular tech stocks. Apple is a fan favorite with retail investors, while Google is popular with institutions. Both trade for slightly higher valuations than the S&P 500 as a whole, and Google is slightly more expensive relative to earnings than Apple. The analyst consensus is that Google has better growth prospects than Apple at the moment, and I agree with this. Apple has returned more than Google has since Google became publicly traded in 2004. Apple stock is more volatile than Google and has historically seen more drawdowns and threats to its business.\nOverall, I find Google a buy at current prices and would wait for a pullback to $100 to buy Apple.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":283,"commentLimit":10,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"symbols":["GOOGL","GOOG"],"verified":2,"subType":0,"readableState":1,"langContent":"EN","currentLanguage":"EN","warmUpFlag":false,"orderFlag":false,"shareable":true,"causeOfNotShareable":"","featuresForAnalytics":[],"commentAndTweetFlag":false,"andRepostAutoSelectedFlag":false,"upFlag":false,"length":73,"xxTargetLangEnum":"ORIG"},"commentList":[],"isCommentEnd":true,"isTiger":false,"isWeiXinMini":false,"url":"/m/post/113525601"}