Airlines need time to recover,

2021-06-16

Airlines need time to recover, too much losses

Cathay working with Airbus on single-pilot system for long-haul

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cruise also needs to recover.
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Once cleared, longer flights would become possible with a pair of pilots alternating rest breaks, instead of the three or four currently needed to maintain at least two in the cockpit.\nThat promises savings for airlines, amid uncertainty over the post-pandemic economics of intercontinental flying. But it is likely to encounter resistance from pilots already hit by mass layoffs, and safety concerns about aircraft automation.\nLufthansa has also worked on the single-pilot programme but currently has no plans to use it, a spokesman for the German carrier told Reuters.\nCathay Pacific Airways confirmed its involvement but said no decision had been made on eventual deployment.\n\"While we are engaging with Airbus in the development of the concept of reduced crew operations, we have not committed in any way to being the launch customer,\" the Hong Kong carrier said.\nCommercial implementation would first require extensive testing, regulatory approval and pilot training with \"absolutely no compromise on safety\", Cathay said.\n\"The appropriateness and effectiveness of any such rollout as well as (the) overall cost-benefit analysis (will) ultimately depend on how the pandemic plays out.\"\nIt added: \"Having said that, we will continue to engage with Airbus and to support development of the concept.\"\nAirbus has previously disclosed plans to add single-pilot capability to the A350, but the airlines' participation had not been reported. 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Both remain in the cockpit for take-off and landing.\n\"Typically on long-haul flights when you're at cruise altitude there's very little happening in the cockpit,\" EASA chief Patrick Ky told a German press briefing in January.\n\"It makes sense to say OK, instead of having two in the cockpit, we can have one in the cockpit, the other one taking a rest, provided we're implementing technical solutions which make sure that if the single one falls asleep or has any problem, there won't be any unsafe conditions.\"\nPilot groups have voiced alarm.\n\"We struggle to understand the rationale,\" said Otjan de Bruijn, head of the European Cockpit Association representing EU pilots.\nInvoking the 737 MAX crisis, which exposed Boeing's inappropriate links to U.S. regulators, De Bruijn said the programme's cost-cutting approach \"could lead to higher risks\".\nSingle-pilot operations, currently limited to planes with up to nine passengers, would need backing from U.N. aviation body ICAO and countries whose airspace they cross. 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Once cleared, longer flights would become possible with a pair of pilots alternating rest breaks, instead of the three or four currently needed to maintain at least two in the cockpit.\nThat promises savings for airlines, amid uncertainty over the post-pandemic economics of intercontinental flying. 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Work has resumed after the COVID-19 crisis paused the programme, Chief Test Pilot Christophe Cail said.\n\"We've proven over decades we can enhance safety by putting the latest technology in aircraft,\" Cail told Reuters, declining to identify project partners. \"As for any design evolution, we are working with airlines.\"\nVITAL SIGNS\nSafe deployment will require constant monitoring of the solo pilot's alertness and vital signs by on-board systems, the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) has said.\nIf the flight encounters a problem or the pilot flying is incapacitated, the resting copilot can be summoned within minutes. Both remain in the cockpit for take-off and landing.\n\"Typically on long-haul flights when you're at cruise altitude there's very little happening in the cockpit,\" EASA chief Patrick Ky told a German press briefing in January.\n\"It makes sense to say OK, instead of having two in the cockpit, we can have one in the cockpit, the other one taking a rest, provided we're implementing technical solutions which make sure that if the single one falls asleep or has any problem, there won't be any unsafe conditions.\"\nPilot groups have voiced alarm.\n\"We struggle to understand the rationale,\" said Otjan de Bruijn, head of the European Cockpit Association representing EU pilots.\nInvoking the 737 MAX crisis, which exposed Boeing's inappropriate links to U.S. regulators, De Bruijn said the programme's cost-cutting approach \"could lead to higher risks\".\nSingle-pilot operations, currently limited to planes with up to nine passengers, would need backing from U.N. aviation body ICAO and countries whose airspace they cross. 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The Air France A330's copilots lost control after its speed sensors failed over the Atlantic, while the captain was resting.\n\"Airbus would have had to make sure every situation can be handled autonomously without any pilot input for 15 minutes,\" the source said. \"And that couldn't be guaranteed.\"\nLufthansa has not withdrawn from Project Connect and remains involved as an adviser, its spokesman said.\nWhile the airline has no plans to deploy single-pilot operations, he added, \"the suggestion that Lufthansa was an essential part of the project and then pulled back is not true.\"\nSingle-pilot capability would add an A350 sales argument, experts say, and rival Boeing lacks an equivalent model with sufficient automation.\nFilippo Tomasello, a former EASA official, said the payroll and accommodation savings for long-haul crew would not be lost on airlines.\n\"COVID may end up accelerating this evolution because it's putting tremendous economic pressure on aviation,\" Tomasello predicted.\n\"If EASA certifies this solution, airlines will use it.\"","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":67,"commentLimit":10,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"symbols":[],"verified":2,"subType":0,"readableState":1,"langContent":"EN","currentLanguage":"EN","warmUpFlag":false,"orderFlag":false,"shareable":true,"causeOfNotShareable":"","featuresForAnalytics":[],"commentAndTweetFlag":false,"upFlag":false,"length":39,"xxTargetLangEnum":"ORIG"},"commentList":[{"id":4811808,"gmtCreate":1623850099435,"gmtModify":1663229032344,"authorId":3573883093617050,"author":{"id":3573883093617050,"authorId":3573883093617050,"name":"yBuyRestrict","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0bd70b0fe88754aed8f5ea87ae30a175","vip":1,"crmLevel":6,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":169452784,"type":1,"supId":0,"prevId":0,"content":"cruise also needs to recover.","text":"cruise also needs to recover.","html":"cruise also needs to recover.","likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"subComments":[{"id":4811894,"gmtCreate":1623850311535,"gmtModify":1663229033131,"authorId":3567160588479542,"author":{"id":3567160588479542,"authorId":3567160588479542,"name":"JR93","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/09000967c3d6b1e608bc9e2703f4bdb1","vip":1,"crmLevel":2,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":169452784,"type":1,"supId":4811808,"prevId":0,"content":"agree [微笑]","text":"agree [微笑]","html":"agree [微笑]"}],"verified":10,"allocateAmount":0,"commentType":"valid","coins":0,"score":0}],"isCommentEnd":false,"isTiger":false,"isWeiXinMini":false,"url":"/m/post/169452784"}