Lame article by short sellers.

2023-06-07

Lame article by short sellers. Soros has sold 16 million worth of shares, so what? He's a multi billionaire, that's like change to him. Besidesthat, it's known that he and Musk banged theirhead in the past. Shouldn't we rather look at fundamentals of a stock? That current rally shows that this was a rather stupid move, he could have made a nice win instead of a loss if heheld the shares just a bit longer.

This Billionaire Just Sold Out of Tesla Stock. Should You Follow?

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Sharkie
2023-06-07
Sharkie
on the hindsight, are vision are 20/20. No one can time the market. As long as he has made his profit and get out of certain stock or sector, who is to say that he is wrong ? one thing is for sure, dont invest in any stock emotionally but look at the fundementals. Invest safe
- a4xrbj1:
  He has made a big loss (big for ys, nothing for him). The author claims that we should sell because Soros has done so (actually its his family office and not him, who knows how well he is at age 91). Thats lame
Irene104
2023-06-07
Irene104
Ok
Evon8022
2023-06-07
Evon8022
k
kelvint
2023-06-07
kelvint
k

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In a regulatory filing, Geroge Soros' family office, Soros Fund Management, revealed that it no longer held a single share or derivative of the high-profile electric vehicle (EV) maker.We should never, of course, blindly follow the moves of another investor, no matter how successful they have been. But maybe Soros was on to something here, so let's explore whether it's time to ditch or dive into Tesla stock.Buying on the dipAt the end of 2022, as detailed in its next-to-latest 13F, a document itemizing an institutional investment manager's holdings, Soros Fund Management held 132,046 Tesla shares. At the time this position was worth just under $16.3 million. The company also owned 200,000 Tesla call options, which were valued at slightly over $24.6 million in total. In the next 13F, covering the first calendar quarter of this year, neither position was anywhere to be found.Interestingly, the 13F previous to the one featuring Tesla reveals a notably smaller stake, of 89,647 shares, in the EV maker's stock, and no call options. Ditto for the one before that, which detailed only a 29,883-share position. By far the majority of the Tesla buys, then, occurred in the second half of 2022.Across that July through-December period, Tesla's stock price cratered by nearly 46%. That was a far worse performance than the S&P 500 index's essentially flat trajectory. It also compared unfavorably with the respective 28% and 38% declines of fellow EV manufacturers Rivan and BYD.The terrible '22Tesla's nearly 50% swoon was the confluence of several negative factors. 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Slamming this point home was Tesla's fourth-quarter results published the following month; the company posted solid growth numbers and beat analyst estimates.Meanwhile, Tesla showed it was ready to adjust to the stiffening competition, not to mention those still-looming economic storm clouds, by being aggressive with price cuts. And on the Twitter front, last month Musk found a CEO to replace himself: Veteran big-corporation executive Linda Yaccarino.This year's model2023 hasn't been entirely a joyride for Tesla -- for example, first-quarter results featured some disappointing numbers -- but the future looks better than it did in the gloomy fading months of last year.As a result, Tesla stock has generally trended up of late, and it's no longer the bargain it was in those dim days. Its price-to-sales ratio is very caloric at 6.2, the price-to-book value stands at over 10, and the forward P/E is a vertigo-inducing 42-plus. Comparable figures for much of the competition -- pure-play EVs and auto industry incumbents alike -- are far lower.Yet despite its recent trials, tribulations, and Twitter side journeys, the company continues to be the standard-bearer for the EV segment. If demand remains strong for such models, Tesla will surely continue to grow and profit -- after all, the image many people conjure when hearing the initials \"EV\" is one of the company's models. These are all very attractive vehicles, meanwhile, and style counts in the auto business. Ultimately, while I think there are more interesting EV plays among the less-famous, offbeat companies in the space -- such as Europe-based charging station specialist Allego -- Tesla still has much going for it. 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