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2021-05-19

Went in at 342 and 30% down. Back to ipo price level

Why Cathie Wood’s ARKK Is Still Betting on Coinbase

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SandDust
2021-05-19
SandDust
The key discussion will be if the business sustainable going forward.
- SandDustReplyMorphyInc:
  The central banks will surely intervene at some point. Maybe they will let it run till they issue their own digital currency.
- MorphyInc:
  With so many regulators upping their hands On BTC , wonder how the exchange is going to move ahead. i believe btc is here to stay but with the headwinds , not gonna look pretty in the short term.
dogeking
2021-05-19
dogeking
Long term, It will go back up
- MorphyInc:
  CB thrashed.... again ?
CMPek
2021-05-19
CMPek
my gosh...some most recent listed stocks are lower than their IPO price now
- IchiGo:
  Wish Is one of them

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Ark CEO Cathie Wood had become something of an investing rock star in recent years, thanks to a rich45% annualized returnover the past five years in its flagship Innovation Fund, which has grown to more than $50 billion in managed assets.But the fund has dropped by close to 30% since mid-February, thanks to serious collapses of its stakes in everything fromgene-editing to Tesla. ARKK is also one of the largest holders of Coinbase stock, which is similarly down 25% since its IPO on April 14.By and large, these drops have been driven less by disappointing current performance than shifting expectations about the future – arguably the defining risk of growth investing. Because the present price of growth investments is so dependent on projected returns far into the future, small present changes in a company’s results, positive or negative, can translate into huge impacts on the stock. 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Bond yields and interest rates in particular are a direct threat to growth investing because they create more attractive returns on very low-risk investments. At the same time, higher rates make debt and other capital more expensive for growth companies, who typically don’t have the cash flows to fund their own growth.There’s no real way to escape these sorts of risks when you’re attempting to monetize the future. What matters is how a growth investor responds, and crucially, whether that response follows the same forward-leaning logic as the initial investing thesis. Wood is catching heat right now because of ARKK’s trouble, but her response has been nothing if not consistent: she has repeatedly and loudly declared that the slump in growth stocks is a buying opportunity, with falling prices only amplifying potential future returns.Higher rates make debt and other capital more expensive for growth companies, who typically don’t have the cash flows to fund their own growthBecause Ark funds publicize their trades, we know Wood isn’t just talking: ARKK has been steadily buying assets like Square, Twilio, and even Zoom as the stocks head south. The fund is also aggressively buying the dip in Coinbase, growing its position as of today to 624 million shares – 3% of ARKK’s holdings and, incredibly, more than 10% of all Coinbase shares. That’s particularly bold because Coinbase could be described as a growth investment squared: its own growth deeply dependent on demand for assets that are, in turn, highly speculative themselves.I assume Wood’s belief in her bets is sincere, but it’s also just good optics for a growth fund. Halting buys on Coinbase or other bets as they go down would be an implicit admission that previous buys at higher prices were a mistake. Buying an asset that’s slumping short-term is a strong signal of long-term belief.Wood’s consistency, along with her track record, appear to have been fairly effective in helping investors keep the faith even in the face of short-term losses. It’s inevitable some will reflexively sell a ticker that drops 30% in four months, but according to Seeking Alpha, ARKK only saw$1 billion in capital outflows, or around 2% of the fund’s total assets, over the past week.That’s far from amazing, and at that rate it could add up quickly, but it’s also far from a worst-case scenario. 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