Reinforcing a partnership does

Reinforcing a partnership does not show weakness but rather strength. If Intel was that bad, AWS has the freewill to explore other options which it didn't. There is a bigger play in this. In addition the Goverment is behind Intel, so Intel should be quite safe. 25 billion debt to total equity seems safe on the balance sheet. I'll go for a mid term play.

Intel-Amazon: Game Changer? More Like A Sinking Chip

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I'll go for a&nbsp;mid term play.&nbsp;</p></body></html>","htmlText":"<html><head></head><body><p>Reinforcing a partnership does not show weakness but rather strength. If Intel was that bad, AWS has the freewill to explore other options which it didn't. There is a bigger play in this. In addition the Goverment is behind Intel, so Intel should be quite safe. 25 billion debt to total equity seems safe on the balance sheet. I'll go for a&nbsp;mid term play.&nbsp;</p></body></html>","text":"Reinforcing a partnership does not show weakness but rather strength. If Intel was that bad, AWS has the freewill to explore other options which it didn't. There is a bigger play in this. In addition the Goverment is behind Intel, so Intel should be quite safe. 25 billion debt to total equity seems safe on the balance sheet. I'll go for a mid term play.","highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":21,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"favoriteSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/350736311586960","repostId":2468352961,"repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2468352961","pubTimestamp":1726658044,"share":"https://www.laohu8.com/m/news/2468352961?lang=&edition=full","pubTime":"2024-09-18 19:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Intel-Amazon: Game Changer? 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The stock rallied up more than 8% after-hours as bargain hunters stepped in to catch what looks like from a well-orchestrated PR effort to be a bargain stock.</p><p>But then, the facts step in. We are looking at a business that is only expecting to be free cash flow positive in 2025. And on top of that, we have around $25 billion of net debt to tackle.</p><p>Yes, the stock is meaningfully lower in the past 6 months, the past year, and the past 5 years. But this isn&#39;t a bargain investment that I recommend investors chase. Stay clear of INTC.</p><h2 id=\"id_1531510749\">The Big News for Intel&#39;s 18A</h2><p>Intel&#39;s partnership with AWS highlights a deepening collaboration. Intel will focus on developing custom chip designs to support AWS&#39;s growing infrastructure needs.</p><p>Intel&#39;s Foundry will produce AI fabric chips on its advanced 18A node. 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Or perhaps, there could be a partial spin-off of Intel Foundry, where Intel remains the majority shareholder, holding 80% of the stock, simply to give investors a sense of the Intel Foundry business as being undervalued inside Intel&#39;s total business.</p><p>With that update in mind, let&#39;s now discuss its fundamentals.</p><h2 id=\"id_2561769928\">Revenue Growth Rates Don&#39;t Inspire Much Hope</h2><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/31bfcde72382ca245a2ee0b20f8484da\" alt=\"INTC Revenue Growth Rates -- author&#39;s work\" title=\"INTC Revenue Growth Rates -- author&#39;s work\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"217\"/><span>INTC Revenue Growth Rates -- author&#39;s work</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>INTC Revenue Growth Rates -- author&#39;s work</strong></p><p>Intel&#39;s growth rates have a long while been dismal. This is not new news to anyone. 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There&#39;s no disguising this aspect.</p><p>And then, to complicate matters, for 2024 Intel expects adjusted free cash flow to be modestly negative, driven by restructuring payments and reduced capital spending, despite its best efforts to reduce capital investments.</p><p>And then, next year, by 2025 once the dust has settled, Intel anticipates achieving positive adjusted free cash flow, supported by operating expenses reduced to approximately $17.5 billion and net capital expenditures between $12 billion and $14 billion.</p><p>So, in sum, investors are having to think long and hard about whether it truly makes sense to back Intel at this stage. 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The stock rallied up more than 8% after-hours as bargain hunters stepped in to catch what looks like from a well-orchestrated PR effort to be a bargain stock.But then, the facts step in. We are looking at a business that is only expecting to be free cash flow positive in 2025. And on top of that, we have around $25 billion of net debt to tackle.Yes, the stock is meaningfully lower in the past 6 months, the past year, and the past 5 years. But this isn't a bargain investment that I recommend investors chase. Stay clear of INTC.The Big News for Intel's 18AIntel's partnership with AWS highlights a deepening collaboration. Intel will focus on developing custom chip designs to support AWS's growing infrastructure needs.Intel's Foundry will produce AI fabric chips on its advanced 18A node. This builds upon their existing relationship, where Intel has been supplying AWS with Xeon Scalable processors.The partnership is a multi-year agreement aiming to appease doubters that Intel is still able to sign up tier-1 cloud hyperscalers.Also, yesterday's press release discussed Intel's plans to bolster its foundry business, as Intel plans to establish Intel Foundry as an independent subsidiary.This move aims to provide greater operational transparency, financial flexibility, and clearer separation for external customers and suppliers. The new structure will also enable Intel Foundry to pursue independent funding opportunities and optimize its growth strategies.While maintaining its leadership team, Intel Foundry's transition is designed to enhance collaboration with Intel's product division.Does this line up the Intel Foundry business unit for a near-term spin-off? Possibly. Or perhaps, there could be a partial spin-off of Intel Foundry, where Intel remains the majority shareholder, holding 80% of the stock, simply to give investors a sense of the Intel Foundry business as being undervalued inside Intel's total business.With that update in mind, let's now discuss its fundamentals.Revenue Growth Rates Don't Inspire Much HopeINTC Revenue Growth Rates -- author's workINTC Revenue Growth Rates -- author's workIntel's growth rates have a long while been dismal. This is not new news to anyone. The only question that investors has to ponder is, at what point in time will Intel be in a position where it can return to stable growth?What's more, given that Intel is now having to cut back around $10 billion of opex in its mass restructuring plan and to shed 15,000 from its workforce this year, I struggle to see a scenario where Intel can reignite its revenue growth rates on a stable and predictable basis.With that in mind, let's now discuss Intel's valuation.INTC Stock Valuation -- 2x This Year's SalesAs an Inflection investor, we must always think about the company's financial footing. On this front, Intel, with approximately $25 billion of net debt, scores poorly. There's no disguising this aspect.And then, to complicate matters, for 2024 Intel expects adjusted free cash flow to be modestly negative, driven by restructuring payments and reduced capital spending, despite its best efforts to reduce capital investments.And then, next year, by 2025 once the dust has settled, Intel anticipates achieving positive adjusted free cash flow, supported by operating expenses reduced to approximately $17.5 billion and net capital expenditures between $12 billion and $14 billion.So, in sum, investors are having to think long and hard about whether it truly makes sense to back Intel at this stage. I don't believe it does.What is the most likely scenario is that investors will move to buy the dip, and then, in the coming days and weeks, as the stock fails to gain much traction, investors will sell at an even lower price point.Altogether, I believe that there are much better investment opportunities elsewhere.The Bottom LineIn conclusion, while Intel’s recent news about its AWS partnership might spark excitement, the reality of its financial situation remains concerning.With approximately $25 billion in net debt and expectations to become free cash flow positive only by 2025, the long-term risk seems too significant for a BUY.The company's restructuring efforts, alongside uncertain growth prospects, paint a tough road ahead.I believe Intel’s future performance will continue to fall short of expectations — this is a \"sinking chip\".","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":831,"commentLimit":10,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"symbols":["INTC"],"verified":2,"subType":0,"readableState":1,"langContent":"EN","currentLanguage":"EN","warmUpFlag":false,"orderFlag":false,"shareable":true,"causeOfNotShareable":"","featuresForAnalytics":[],"commentAndTweetFlag":false,"andRepostAutoSelectedFlag":false,"upFlag":true,"length":291,"xxTargetLangEnum":"ORIG"},"commentList":[],"isCommentEnd":true,"isTiger":false,"isWeiXinMini":false,"url":"/m/post/350736311586960"}