I think tesla cars are pretty

I think tesla cars are pretty much over. There's no hope to catch BYD at this point. Tesla should abandon the car business and focus 100% on optimus. Every gigafactory should build optimus. Leave cars to BYD.

The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car

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And the current economics of the U.S. auto industry don't support it.The key problem: America doesn't really sell cheap new cars anymore.Why would any automaker offer an EV -- with all of that costly technology -- at a price point that's half of what the average new vehicle goes for these days?Lucid which has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of the new electric SUV called the Gravity, aims to bring out a more affordable midsize vehicle to compete against the Tesla Model Y in late 2026. That vehicle is said to cost less than $50,000, but a cheap EV is something Rawlinson said he would only support by licensing his technology to another company.A slowdown in the rate of EV sales growth has complicated the picture. So has the growing anticipation that the new Trump administration will eliminate federal tax credits that have ","content":"<html><head></head><body><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f84d4eadce68c2473c982dcb5199c769\" alt=\"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" title=\"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"875\"/>Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJBy Tim HigginsThe dream of a $25,000 electric vehicle for U.S. drivers is in trouble.Elon Musk has abandoned it. President-elect Donald Trump is unlikely to help. And the current economics of the U.S. auto industry don&#39;t support it.The key problem: America doesn&#39;t really sell cheap new cars anymore.Why would any automaker offer an EV -- with all of that costly technology -- at a price point that&#39;s half of what the average new vehicle goes for these days?&#34;I think having a regular $25,000 model is pointless,&#34; Musk said a few weeks ago. &#34;It would be silly.&#34;Yes, the chief executive says Tesla is still working on a $25,000 robotaxi to arrive in 2026. But for those who don&#39;t think his driverless cars are actually going to happen by then or for Luddites who just want to buy a new $25,000 EV with a steering wheel and pedals -- no luck.Musk isn&#39;t alone in taking a sour view of making a cheap EV for the U.S.<img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e5d55a098786e56c1db04690d64f2db9\" alt=\"A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\" title=\"A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/>A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg&#34;That market sucks,&#34; Peter Rawlinson, chief executive of Lucid Motors, told me and my colleague Christopher Mims for our new podcast, called &#34;Bold Names.&#34;Lucid which has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of the new electric SUV called the Gravity, aims to bring out a more affordable midsize vehicle to compete against the Tesla Model Y in late 2026. That vehicle is said to cost less than $50,000, but a cheap EV is something Rawlinson said he would only support by licensing his technology to another company.&#34;That market is notorious because you get into mass manufacture -- terrible, low margins,&#34; he said of the low-price EVs. &#34;To install the manufacturing base for millions of these units makes little sense to me.&#34;Abandoning the idea of a $25,000 car comes as a blow to those who were betting that the electrification of the automobile was on track to happen seemingly overnight -- with EVs for every pocketbook replacing the tens of millions of vehicles on the roadways.Instead, we&#39;ve swung back to a belief that the transition, at least in the U.S., is going to be slower.Musk upended the car industry almost two years ago with his incredible claims about Tesla&#39;s ability to slash costs as it sought to develop a lower-priced EV while at the same time starting a price war by cutting the prices of the Model 3 sedan and Model Y sport-utility vehicle.<img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d1c19151eaf12aa963979a613d6d3511\" alt=\"Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images\" title=\"Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/>Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty ImagesRivals, lest they be left behind Tesla and its now-discarded claims, have aimed for cheap EVs of their own. But their broader efforts to electrify have been running into trouble. Ford Motor, for example, last month said it was pausing production of its electric F-150 Lightning, which starts at around $63,000, in the midst of slumping demand.A slowdown in the rate of EV sales growth has complicated the picture. So has the growing anticipation that the new Trump administration will eliminate federal tax credits that have made EVs more affordable for buyers. The cheapest car Tesla currently sells in the U.S. starts at around $43,000 -- or $35,500 with a federal tax credit of $7,500.Building and selling a cheap car for the U.S. -- EV or not -- was already difficult.To start, profits can be thin. And that&#39;s before adding expensive batteries to the equation, before inflation jacked prices up for everything, and before Chinese rivals got really, really good at making really, really inexpensive EVs of their own.A lot of attention has focused on the fact that new cars, like everything these days, just cost way more than they used to.The average transaction price for a new vehicle sold in the U.S. last month was $48,623, according to Kelley Blue Book, roughly $10,000 higher than in 2019, before the pandemic.A decade ago, about 40% of the new-vehicle transactions in the U.S. were less than $25,000, including incentives and discounts, according to the researcher J.D. Power. This year, that figure is 9%.In 2020, when Musk fanned the flames of excitement for a $25,000 car that he said was in the offing, the new-vehicle market in the U.S. was a much different thing. Even then, roughly a quarter of the new-vehicle transactions were for less than $25,000.<img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1cfaf5aca179b0fa933c52a7f40d82d9\" alt=\"A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" title=\"A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/>A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJA year later, according to J.D. Power, it was 15%. It then fell to 6% before slightly rebounding this year as car companies offered deals to help move vehicles as higher interest rates made buying a car harder for some.What happened? The pandemic. Prices shot up -- first in the midst of supply shortages, and then they stayed high as automakers adjusted their lineup to cut out low-profit vehicles.&#34;As automakers were profit maximizing during the supply chain crisis era, you are going to prioritize the bigger vehicles, the more expensive vehicles with their higher margins,&#34; Tyson Jominy, vice president of data and analytics at J.D. Power, told me. &#34;Now we just don&#39;t have&#34; these cheaper models.Today, just four models account for more than two-thirds of all vehicles with suggested retail prices of less than $25,000 in the U.S. -- Toyota&#39;s Corolla, Kia&#39;s Forte, Nissan&#39;s Sentra and Chevrolet&#39;s Trax.It isn&#39;t as though people don&#39;t want cheap cars. Now, many are just left buying used cars.What has Western automotive executives&#39; stomachs churning is that they might have inadvertently left a huge opening for Chinese rivals who have shown an ability to build inexpensive EVs that consumers outside the U.S. are gobbling up.While Trump has promised even heftier tariffs to effectively keep Chinese imports out, the president-elect has suggested he might be open to Chinese automakers&#39; setting up factories in the U.S. -- though such a move would mean their labor costs would surely increase compared with what they&#39;re accustomed to back home.Even for Musk, though, the world seems to be shifting quickly. He has said Tesla sales could rise as much as 30% next year by offering cheaper versions of existing models.&#34;The amount of work required to make a lower-cost car is insanely high,&#34; Musk told analysts in October. &#34;It is harder to get like 20% of the cost out of a car than it is to design the car and build the entire factory in the first place -- it&#39;s like excruciating.&#34;He added: &#34;There&#39;s not a lot of movies made about the heroes who got 20% of the cost out of a car, but let me tell you, there should be.&#34;</body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThe Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\nDow Jones \n2024-11-17 08:47\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f84d4eadce68c2473c982dcb5199c769\" alt=\"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" title=\"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"875\"/>Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJBy Tim HigginsThe dream of a $25,000 electric vehicle for U.S. drivers is in trouble.Elon Musk has abandoned it. President-elect Donald Trump is unlikely to help. And the current economics of the U.S. auto industry don&#39;t support it.The key problem: America doesn&#39;t really sell cheap new cars anymore.Why would any automaker offer an EV -- with all of that costly technology -- at a price point that&#39;s half of what the average new vehicle goes for these days?&#34;I think having a regular $25,000 model is pointless,&#34; Musk said a few weeks ago. &#34;It would be silly.&#34;Yes, the chief executive says Tesla is still working on a $25,000 robotaxi to arrive in 2026. But for those who don&#39;t think his driverless cars are actually going to happen by then or for Luddites who just want to buy a new $25,000 EV with a steering wheel and pedals -- no luck.Musk isn&#39;t alone in taking a sour view of making a cheap EV for the U.S.<img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/e5d55a098786e56c1db04690d64f2db9\" alt=\"A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\" title=\"A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/>A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg&#34;That market sucks,&#34; Peter Rawlinson, chief executive of Lucid Motors, told me and my colleague Christopher Mims for our new podcast, called &#34;Bold Names.&#34;Lucid which has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of the new electric SUV called the Gravity, aims to bring out a more affordable midsize vehicle to compete against the Tesla Model Y in late 2026. That vehicle is said to cost less than $50,000, but a cheap EV is something Rawlinson said he would only support by licensing his technology to another company.&#34;That market is notorious because you get into mass manufacture -- terrible, low margins,&#34; he said of the low-price EVs. &#34;To install the manufacturing base for millions of these units makes little sense to me.&#34;Abandoning the idea of a $25,000 car comes as a blow to those who were betting that the electrification of the automobile was on track to happen seemingly overnight -- with EVs for every pocketbook replacing the tens of millions of vehicles on the roadways.Instead, we&#39;ve swung back to a belief that the transition, at least in the U.S., is going to be slower.Musk upended the car industry almost two years ago with his incredible claims about Tesla&#39;s ability to slash costs as it sought to develop a lower-priced EV while at the same time starting a price war by cutting the prices of the Model 3 sedan and Model Y sport-utility vehicle.<img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d1c19151eaf12aa963979a613d6d3511\" alt=\"Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images\" title=\"Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty Images\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/>Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty ImagesRivals, lest they be left behind Tesla and its now-discarded claims, have aimed for cheap EVs of their own. But their broader efforts to electrify have been running into trouble. Ford Motor, for example, last month said it was pausing production of its electric F-150 Lightning, which starts at around $63,000, in the midst of slumping demand.A slowdown in the rate of EV sales growth has complicated the picture. So has the growing anticipation that the new Trump administration will eliminate federal tax credits that have made EVs more affordable for buyers. The cheapest car Tesla currently sells in the U.S. starts at around $43,000 -- or $35,500 with a federal tax credit of $7,500.Building and selling a cheap car for the U.S. -- EV or not -- was already difficult.To start, profits can be thin. And that&#39;s before adding expensive batteries to the equation, before inflation jacked prices up for everything, and before Chinese rivals got really, really good at making really, really inexpensive EVs of their own.A lot of attention has focused on the fact that new cars, like everything these days, just cost way more than they used to.The average transaction price for a new vehicle sold in the U.S. last month was $48,623, according to Kelley Blue Book, roughly $10,000 higher than in 2019, before the pandemic.A decade ago, about 40% of the new-vehicle transactions in the U.S. were less than $25,000, including incentives and discounts, according to the researcher J.D. Power. This year, that figure is 9%.In 2020, when Musk fanned the flames of excitement for a $25,000 car that he said was in the offing, the new-vehicle market in the U.S. was a much different thing. Even then, roughly a quarter of the new-vehicle transactions were for less than $25,000.<img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1cfaf5aca179b0fa933c52a7f40d82d9\" alt=\"A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" title=\"A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJ\" tg-width=\"700\" tg-height=\"466\"/>A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJA year later, according to J.D. Power, it was 15%. It then fell to 6% before slightly rebounding this year as car companies offered deals to help move vehicles as higher interest rates made buying a car harder for some.What happened? The pandemic. Prices shot up -- first in the midst of supply shortages, and then they stayed high as automakers adjusted their lineup to cut out low-profit vehicles.&#34;As automakers were profit maximizing during the supply chain crisis era, you are going to prioritize the bigger vehicles, the more expensive vehicles with their higher margins,&#34; Tyson Jominy, vice president of data and analytics at J.D. Power, told me. &#34;Now we just don&#39;t have&#34; these cheaper models.Today, just four models account for more than two-thirds of all vehicles with suggested retail prices of less than $25,000 in the U.S. -- Toyota&#39;s Corolla, Kia&#39;s Forte, Nissan&#39;s Sentra and Chevrolet&#39;s Trax.It isn&#39;t as though people don&#39;t want cheap cars. Now, many are just left buying used cars.What has Western automotive executives&#39; stomachs churning is that they might have inadvertently left a huge opening for Chinese rivals who have shown an ability to build inexpensive EVs that consumers outside the U.S. are gobbling up.While Trump has promised even heftier tariffs to effectively keep Chinese imports out, the president-elect has suggested he might be open to Chinese automakers&#39; setting up factories in the U.S. -- though such a move would mean their labor costs would surely increase compared with what they&#39;re accustomed to back home.Even for Musk, though, the world seems to be shifting quickly. He has said Tesla sales could rise as much as 30% next year by offering cheaper versions of existing models.&#34;The amount of work required to make a lower-cost car is insanely high,&#34; Musk told analysts in October. &#34;It is harder to get like 20% of the cost out of a car than it is to design the car and build the entire factory in the first place -- it&#39;s like excruciating.&#34;He added: &#34;There&#39;s not a lot of movies made about the heroes who got 20% of the cost out of a car, but let me tell you, there should be.&#34;</body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4527":"明星科技股","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC","BK4574":"无人驾驶","IE00BJLML261.HKD":"HSBC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"HCH\" (HKD) ACC","LU2249611893.SGD":"BNP PARIBAS ENERGY TRANSITION \"CRH\" (SGD) ACC","IE00BSNM7G36.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN SYSTEMATIC GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","LU0820561909.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AM\" (HKD) INC","BK4117":"多元化保险","LCID":"Lucid Group Inc","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","LU2756315664.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMI\" (SGDHDG) INC","SG9999015945.SGD":"LionGlobal Disruptive Innovation Fund A SGD","BK4099":"汽车制造商","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","LU0466842654.USD":"HSBC ISLAMIC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0097036916.USD":"贝莱德美国增长A2 USD","LU0689472784.USD":"安联收益及增长基金Cl AM AT Acc","TSLA":"特斯拉","LU2087621335.USD":"ALLSPRING GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU1852331112.SGD":"Blackrock World Technology Fund A2 SGD-H","BK4107":"财产与意外伤害保险","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" ACC","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU1548497426.USD":"安联环球人工智能AT Acc","LU1861558580.USD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","BK4592":"伊斯兰概念","LU1551013425.SGD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS H2-SGD","LU2756315318.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG\" (SGDHDG) INC A","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU0348723411.USD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL HI-TECH GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC","LU1629891620.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG2\" (H2-HKD) INC","BK4555":"新能源车","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","LU1720051108.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","SG9999015952.SGD":"LIONGLOBAL DISRUPTIVE INNOVATION \"I\" (SGD) ACC","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","LU1429558221.USD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA USD","LU1839511570.USD":"WELLS FARGO GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"I\" (USD) ACC","LU0053666078.USD":"摩根大通基金-美国股票A（离岸）美元","LU1435385759.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA SGD-H"},"source_url":"https://dowjonesnews.com/newdjn/logon.aspx?AL=N","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2483945685","content_text":"Lucid under Peter Rawlinson has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of a new electric SUV. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJBy Tim HigginsThe dream of a $25,000 electric vehicle for U.S. drivers is in trouble.Elon Musk has abandoned it. President-elect Donald Trump is unlikely to help. And the current economics of the U.S. auto industry don't support it.The key problem: America doesn't really sell cheap new cars anymore.Why would any automaker offer an EV -- with all of that costly technology -- at a price point that's half of what the average new vehicle goes for these days?\"I think having a regular $25,000 model is pointless,\" Musk said a few weeks ago. \"It would be silly.\"Yes, the chief executive says Tesla is still working on a $25,000 robotaxi to arrive in 2026. But for those who don't think his driverless cars are actually going to happen by then or for Luddites who just want to buy a new $25,000 EV with a steering wheel and pedals -- no luck.Musk isn't alone in taking a sour view of making a cheap EV for the U.S.A Cybercab robotaxi prototype at a Tesla store in San Jose, Calif., this month. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg\"That market sucks,\" Peter Rawlinson, chief executive of Lucid Motors, told me and my colleague Christopher Mims for our new podcast, called \"Bold Names.\"Lucid which has begun taking orders for its coming $90,000 version of the new electric SUV called the Gravity, aims to bring out a more affordable midsize vehicle to compete against the Tesla Model Y in late 2026. That vehicle is said to cost less than $50,000, but a cheap EV is something Rawlinson said he would only support by licensing his technology to another company.\"That market is notorious because you get into mass manufacture -- terrible, low margins,\" he said of the low-price EVs. \"To install the manufacturing base for millions of these units makes little sense to me.\"Abandoning the idea of a $25,000 car comes as a blow to those who were betting that the electrification of the automobile was on track to happen seemingly overnight -- with EVs for every pocketbook replacing the tens of millions of vehicles on the roadways.Instead, we've swung back to a belief that the transition, at least in the U.S., is going to be slower.Musk upended the car industry almost two years ago with his incredible claims about Tesla's ability to slash costs as it sought to develop a lower-priced EV while at the same time starting a price war by cutting the prices of the Model 3 sedan and Model Y sport-utility vehicle.Rawlinson presenting the Lucid Gravity at the Los Angeles Auto Show in November 2023. Photo: Robyn Beck/AFP/Getty ImagesRivals, lest they be left behind Tesla and its now-discarded claims, have aimed for cheap EVs of their own. But their broader efforts to electrify have been running into trouble. Ford Motor, for example, last month said it was pausing production of its electric F-150 Lightning, which starts at around $63,000, in the midst of slumping demand.A slowdown in the rate of EV sales growth has complicated the picture. So has the growing anticipation that the new Trump administration will eliminate federal tax credits that have made EVs more affordable for buyers. The cheapest car Tesla currently sells in the U.S. starts at around $43,000 -- or $35,500 with a federal tax credit of $7,500.Building and selling a cheap car for the U.S. -- EV or not -- was already difficult.To start, profits can be thin. And that's before adding expensive batteries to the equation, before inflation jacked prices up for everything, and before Chinese rivals got really, really good at making really, really inexpensive EVs of their own.A lot of attention has focused on the fact that new cars, like everything these days, just cost way more than they used to.The average transaction price for a new vehicle sold in the U.S. last month was $48,623, according to Kelley Blue Book, roughly $10,000 higher than in 2019, before the pandemic.A decade ago, about 40% of the new-vehicle transactions in the U.S. were less than $25,000, including incentives and discounts, according to the researcher J.D. Power. This year, that figure is 9%.In 2020, when Musk fanned the flames of excitement for a $25,000 car that he said was in the offing, the new-vehicle market in the U.S. was a much different thing. Even then, roughly a quarter of the new-vehicle transactions were for less than $25,000.A cheap EV is something Rawlinson says he would only support by licensing technology to another company. Photo: Helynn Ospina for WSJA year later, according to J.D. Power, it was 15%. It then fell to 6% before slightly rebounding this year as car companies offered deals to help move vehicles as higher interest rates made buying a car harder for some.What happened? The pandemic. Prices shot up -- first in the midst of supply shortages, and then they stayed high as automakers adjusted their lineup to cut out low-profit vehicles.\"As automakers were profit maximizing during the supply chain crisis era, you are going to prioritize the bigger vehicles, the more expensive vehicles with their higher margins,\" Tyson Jominy, vice president of data and analytics at J.D. Power, told me. \"Now we just don't have\" these cheaper models.Today, just four models account for more than two-thirds of all vehicles with suggested retail prices of less than $25,000 in the U.S. -- Toyota's Corolla, Kia's Forte, Nissan's Sentra and Chevrolet's Trax.It isn't as though people don't want cheap cars. Now, many are just left buying used cars.What has Western automotive executives' stomachs churning is that they might have inadvertently left a huge opening for Chinese rivals who have shown an ability to build inexpensive EVs that consumers outside the U.S. are gobbling up.While Trump has promised even heftier tariffs to effectively keep Chinese imports out, the president-elect has suggested he might be open to Chinese automakers' setting up factories in the U.S. -- though such a move would mean their labor costs would surely increase compared with what they're accustomed to back home.Even for Musk, though, the world seems to be shifting quickly. He has said Tesla sales could rise as much as 30% next year by offering cheaper versions of existing models.\"The amount of work required to make a lower-cost car is insanely high,\" Musk told analysts in October. \"It is harder to get like 20% of the cost out of a car than it is to design the car and build the entire factory in the first place -- it's like excruciating.\"He added: \"There's not a lot of movies made about the heroes who got 20% of the cost out of a car, but let me tell you, there should be.\"","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2,"commentLimit":10,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"symbols":[],"verified":2,"subType":0,"readableState":1,"langContent":"EN","currentLanguage":"EN","warmUpFlag":false,"orderFlag":false,"shareable":true,"causeOfNotShareable":"","featuresForAnalytics":[],"commentAndTweetFlag":false,"andRepostAutoSelectedFlag":false,"upFlag":false,"length":172,"xxTargetLangEnum":"ORIG"},"commentList":[],"isCommentEnd":true,"isTiger":false,"isWeiXinMini":false,"url":"/m/post/371923655315464"}