A good read, patience is defin

2021-04-23

A good read, patience is definitely important?

Warren Buffett could teach traders in dogecoin, GameStop and other hot trends a few things about ‘Mr. Market’

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andrew123
2021-04-23
andrew123
agree. but for day trader they have to go with the flow of popular stk
- Al385:
  Thats true
PJoo
2021-04-23
PJoo
Agree

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