AMD Up 2.19 Per Cent a Day After the Slow-Down Selling: What Did Monday Actually Reprice?

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The indices closed lower for a second day on Tuesday, $S&P 500(.SPX)$ down 0.45 per cent at 7,585.73, the $NASDAQ(.IXIC)$ Composite down 0.78 per cent at 25,981.57 and the $Dow Jones(.DJI)$ down 0.63 per cent at 52,093.11. The reason for the fall, though, was not the same one as Monday's. On Monday the market was pricing what four executives had said, which is something that has not happened yet; on Tuesday two things had already produced a result — a Senate motion failed, and the 10-year Treasury yield reached a level it had not touched in nineteen years.

The heaviest fall of the day was not in chips but in $Circle Internet Corp.(CRCL)$, which closed 11.41 per cent lower at US$86.30. The Senate voted that day on the procedural motion on the CLARITY Act, and the count was 50 in favour to 49 against, well short of the 60 needed to move it forward. Voting against were all the Democrats plus four Republican senators: Collins, Hawley, Moran and Tillis. Several of the Democrats who had negotiated the bill — Gillibrand, Warner, Booker and Warnock — voted against it this time as well. Tillis's vote was a procedural arrangement, on which the Senate majority leader, John Thune, filed a motion to reconsider, so the bill itself is not formally dead; the window for moving it any further this year has largely closed.

Circle fell harder than its peers because of the way its revenue is built. Of US$701 million of revenue in its most recent quarter, US$667 million came from interest on reserve assets, more than nine-tenths of the total. One clause in the bill restricts stablecoin issuers from paying yield to holders: pass it and Circle's interest income has legal protection; leave it unpassed and the company keeps competing for that money against banks and exchanges with no written rule in place. The sell side marked it down the same day, Morgan Stanley cutting the stock to Underweight and its price target to US$38 from US$106, and Goldman Sachs rating it Neutral with a target of US$92. Other crypto-linked shares fell less, with Coinbase, Strategy and Robinhood closing between 3 per cent and 9 per cent lower.

The 10-year Treasury yield reached 5.041 per cent during Tuesday's session, its highest since 2007, before easing back to around 5.01 per cent late in the day. On Monday it had got as far as 5.014 per cent, just short of that 2007 mark; on Tuesday it got there. That was a fifth consecutive session of rising yields.

Three things were doing the pushing, oil the most direct of them: the Saudi east-west pipeline is still shut and Brent settled at around US$109 a barrel, while Ukraine denied that a deal had been reached with Russia to stop attacks on energy infrastructure, so there is no near-term easing in sight on supply. Wednesday's rate decision is the second, with the Federal Open Market Committee starting its meeting on Tuesday and the market putting the odds of a 25 basis point rise at around 92 per cent; if it happens it will be the first increase since July 2023. The third sits at the long end itself: a US$13 billion sale of 20-year bonds on Tuesday went badly and long-dated prices fell further, while AI companies have issued so much debt this year that they have taken up the room primary dealers have to absorb long-dated bonds, leaving new issues harder to place.

On Monday the market was arguing about whether AI should slow down, which has not happened yet; on Tuesday the market was paying interest on the money AI has already borrowed, which has. Several of the day's larger fallers were exactly the companies building out compute on borrowed money — $Alphabet(GOOG)$ closed 1.24 per cent lower, $Microsoft(MSFT)$ about 1.6 per cent lower and $Amazon.com(AMZN)$ about 2 per cent lower. Part of the money that builds data centres comes from the bond market, and the price the bond market sets feeds back into these companies' discount rates. So rates and AI are not two unrelated things; there is just one step in between.

The chips sold on Monday's "it will slow down" case were partly bought back on Tuesday. $Advanced Micro Devices(AMD)$ closed 2.19 per cent higher at US$504.20, $Qualcomm(QCOM)$ more than 4 per cent higher and $Coherent(COHR)$rent nearly 2 per cent higher. None of the three released anything new between Monday and Tuesday, so the difference between the two days can only be put down to sentiment — which is to say that part of Monday's fall was not a repricing.

Memory did not follow: $Western Digital(WDC)$ and $Seagate Technology PLC(STX)$ closed between 4 per cent and 5 per cent lower, $SanDisk Corp.(SNDK)$ 1.36 per cent lower at US$1,530.89 and $SK hynix(SKHY)$ 0.46 per cent lower at US$174.83; $Micron Technology(MU)$ closed 0.39 per cent higher at US$927.60, the only one in the group to finish up. Everything that took part of Monday back was outside memory, which says the market had no answer by Tuesday to Monday's question of whether the price rises can continue.

$Oracle(ORCL)$ closed 3.07 per cent lower at US$140.35, down for a fourth session since its results, with the same cash arithmetic still weighing on it: turning about US$664 billion of remaining performance obligations into revenue means building the capacity first, the gap is borrowed, and on Tuesday borrowing got dearer again. Wednesday afternoon's rate decision will produce a definite number, with the dot plot and the chair's press conference after it. Monday the market priced an essay, Tuesday it priced a vote and a yield curve, and what it has to price on Wednesday is harder than either.

The above is personal analysis, not investment advice.

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Chips sold on Monday's slow-down case came back on Tuesday, with $Advanced Micro Devices(AMD)$ closing 2.19 per cent higher and Qualcomm more than 4 per cent higher, while memory stayed split — Western Digital and Seagate between 4 per cent and 5 per cent lower, Micron 0.39 per cent higher. What do you think Monday's fall actually repriced?

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Memory Stocks Diverge — Is the Price-Hike Narrative Fading?
Memory came apart Tuesday, a day after moving as a bloc: Micron +0.39% to $927.60, SK Hynix −0.46% to $174.83, SanDisk −1.36% to $1,530.89, Western Digital about −4%, Seagate about −5%. SanDisk refinanced its credit facility, which sharpens the valuation argument in a group priced on prices going up. Micron holding its ground says the demand side has not gone with the rest; Micron also reports Sept 30, the next real read on quotes and orders. One price-increase story cannot carry five names moving in three directions — some part of it is wrong. Is the memory reflation thesis still one story?
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  • Kentzw
    17:24
    Kentzw
    To me, Monday looked more like a valuation reset than a fundamental break. 📉 The quick rebound in AMD and Qualcomm tells me buyers are still there, while memory weakness suggests investors are questioning pricing power and which companies deserve the AI premium.
  • D1ane
    17:07
    D1ane
    I think Monday repriced expectations more than fundamentals. 📉 The market briefly questioned whether AI spending could slow, but Tuesday’s rebound in AMD and Qualcomm suggests investors weren’t ready to abandon the chip cycle. What stands out to me is memory staying weak — that tells me the market is becoming much more selective about which parts of AI infrastructure still have pricing power. 👀
  • Jerry Lam
    16:48
    Jerry Lam
    我觉得周一真正被重新定价的,不是“AI需求突然消失了”,而是市场第一次认真给 AI增长速度、资本开支持续性和高估值之间的关系 打折。

    如果周一真的是基本面逻辑彻底改变,那么周二AMD、QCOM这种反弹就不太容易出现。两天之间并没有新的订单、财报或者产品周期变化,所以这部分回升更像是在修复周一过度拥挤的情绪交易。

    但存储没有一起回来,我觉得很值得注意。

    因为GPU、CPU和通信芯片交易的是“AI算力需求还在不在”,而存储交易的更多是:

    HBM/DRAM涨价还能持续多久、供给什么时候回来、客户愿不愿意继续接受高价格。

    所以周二出现“非存储芯片反弹、存储继续弱”,反而说明市场开始把原来绑在一起的AI交易拆开来看了。

    我现在会把半导体分成三层来看:

    第一层是需求有没有消失。如果Hyperscaler的CapEx没有明显下调,那么AI算力需求本身暂时没有被证伪。

    第二层是增长还能不能维持现在的速度。AI公司开始讨论安全和减速,真正影响的其实不是今天的订单,而是市场原本对2027、2028年需求增速的假设。

    第三层才是估值。10年期美债站上5%之后,同样一笔2028年的利润,今天的价值自然要下降。即使公司盈利预测完全不变,估值也可能先压缩。

    所以我觉得周一那一跌里,确实有一部分是情绪,但也不能全部当成错杀。

    真正被重新定价的可能不是“AI还值不值得投资”,而是投资者还愿不愿意继续用过去那种非常低的风险溢价,为几年以后才兑现的AI利润买单。

    接下来我反而更关注Hyperscaler的CapEx指引,而不是芯片股一天涨跌。如果资本开支没有明显下修,那么周一更像估值和情绪调整;如果CapEx开始连续下调,那才是真正的基本面重新定价。

  • 靖润
    16:27
    靖润
    周一跌那点事,其实根本不是在定价“AI放缓”,而是资金借着这个由头在杀高估值。周一大家恐慌,是因为听到几个高管喊话就怕算力需求没了。但你把时间线拉长看,真正压在科技股头上的核心矛盾,是10年期美债收益率飙到5%这个十九年新高。钱变贵了,靠长期画饼、靠借债扩张的公司,估值就得大打折。


    你看周二的反弹就很说明问题。AMD涨2.19%,高通涨超4%,美光也收红。这说明只要是有硬订单、有实打实利润的核心硬件公司,资金还是认的。反观那些靠融资活着的,像甲骨文(Oracle),因为要填6640亿的产能缺口得不断借贵钱,季报后连跌四天。这才是市场真正在定价的东西——现金流的确定性。


    存储内部现在也很撕裂。西部数据、希捷跌4-5%,美光微涨。这说明纯靠“涨价”逻辑的票现在走不通了,资金只愿意给确定性最高的龙头买单。闪迪还要搞信贷再融资,市场直接用脚投票。


    今晚(周三)美联储的利率决议和点阵图才是真正的大考。市场现在押注加息概率接近90%,早就把“加息25个基点”当成既定事实了,真正的雷在主席的措辞和未来的加息路径里。现在瞎猜方向没意义,管住手,留好现金。别去接那些靠借钱活着的科技股飞刀,等今晚靴子落地,去捡那些被错杀的、现金流扎实的核心硬件。
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