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2022-01-16

What about the stock based compensation bills to palantir employees? Many investors could not tolerate this strategy as it causes dilution of shares before a new one is created. Therefore, the price is still low... Even with Cathy wood string support to the stock...

Palantir: The Myth Of Overvaluation

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MrTig3r
2022-01-16
MrTig3r
Totally agree! I love the business. The uncontrolled share growth is the main issue. PLTR should justify such an approach and explain when this is going to slow down.
Evey77
2022-01-16
Evey77
Agree!

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I don&#39;t see any good reason or justification for the sell-off as Palantir will continue to grow its top line rapidly and new service offerings are set to fuel the firm&#39;s commercial growth. That Palantir is overvalued, is a myth!</p><p><b>Commercial revenue growth could accelerate as new products launch</b></p><p>There are few industries that have as fantastic growth prospects as the big data and analytics industry. Companies are accumulating more and more data from customers and their operations, requiring software solutions and artificial intelligence support to monetize this data most efficiently.</p><p>What am I most excited about, as a Palantir investor, is Palantir&#39;s opening of a new growth frontier in the big data world. Palantir will start to roll out its &#34;Foundry for Crypto&#34; in FY 2022 which offers banks, FinTechs and other companies involved in the crypto economy a way to validate customer information and to implement anti-money laundering tools. Since the crypto universe is still highly unregulated, Palantir&#39;s Foundry for Crypto could make a big difference in legitimizing this industry.</p><p>Blockchain technology and cryptocurrencies are here to stay and Palantir has a huge opportunity at its hands to develop a multi-million-dollar revenue business within a very short period of time. Key customers for Palantir&#39;s Foundry for Crypto are likely going to be financial institutions and crypto trading marketplaces like Coinbase (COIN) which have massive customer bases. Adoption of Palantir&#39;s Foundry for Crypto platform by leading market institutions could materially accelerate Palantir&#39;s commercial revenue growth.</p><p>Because of the opening of a new business segment, I see strong prospects for revenue acceleration for Palantir in the foreseeable future. Palantir&#39;s commercial revenue growth accelerated throughout FY 2021 due to strong customer acquisition and growing adoption of the firm&#39;s products and services. Palantir&#39;s commercial revenue growth accelerated from 19% in Q1&#39;21 to 28% in Q2&#39;21, and then to 37% in Q3&#39;21. Palantir&#39;s revenue acceleration in the commercial business was the reason why Palantir raised its free cash flow and revenue guidance for FY 2021. Because the commercial segment is growing increasingly fast, Palantir already raised its free cash flow outlook twice in FY 2021. The firm now expects free cash flow of $400M+ for FY 2021, after raising the guidance by 33% in Q3&#39;21.</p><p><b>Palantir is not overvalued based on expected free cash flow ramp</b></p><p>Palantir&#39;s business reached a critical point in FY 2021 and the proof is in the company&#39;s growing free cash flow margins. As the firm scales its services and leads more customers through its onboarding process, Palantir should see a significant improvement of its free cash flow margin going forward. Palantir&#39;s Q3&#39;21 free cash flow was $119M which calculates to a free cash flow margin of 30%. I believe Palantir could grow its free cash flow margin to 40% by 2025, meaning the firm is set to become a seriously profitable business within the next four years.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5e54fb7120d0b51650400b5081ae56a9\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"413\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>I also expect Palantir to grow revenues faster than the 30% that have been mentioned as a long-term growth target. The reason for this is that Palantir is signing on more customers and those customers spend more money on the firm&#39;s products and services over time, meaning monetization is improving. Assuming that Palantir can grow revenues at an annual 35% rate over the next four years, Palantir is looking at $5.0B in revenues and $2.0B in free cash flow by FY 2025. The calculation below is built on the assumption that Palantir&#39;s free cash flow margin will grow from 30% in FY 2021 to 40% by FY 2025. Over the next four years, Palantir should be able to increase its annual free cash flow by at least a factor of 4 X.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/48214b624573bdb844c741431b6fac4e\" tg-width=\"599\" tg-height=\"163\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>And investors should not forget about this potentially massive income stream…</p><p><b>The &#34;forgotten&#34; SPAC business</b></p><p>Palantir has come up with a clever revenue growth strategy that combines upside in SPAC investments with long-term software servicing contracts. Palantir is committing investing capital to startups that look to finance growth and, in return, the company gets equity and a signed contract for the provision of its software platforms. I rarely see this business discussed, but it presents considerable valuation upside for Palantir. In Q3&#39;21, the firm&#39;s total investments in startups summarized to $226.5M. Palantir only needs one big exit from one of these SPAC investments listed below to generate a massive windfall.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c452699a2b9ef7ab9b9b5f16074fd788\" tg-width=\"935\" tg-height=\"315\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><b>Risks with Palantir</b></p><p>The biggest risk for shares of Palantir, as I see it, is continual selling pressure that is the result of a profound misunderstanding related to how the firm&#39;s business model works in practice. Palantir&#39;s business is evolving and progress is measurable and undeniable. The proof is in Palantir&#39;s improving free cash flow margin and accelerating (commercial) revenue growth. Revenues can only accelerate if more companies adopt Palantir&#39;s services. Customers are also growing their platform spend, meaning each customer that signs with Palantir is going to have a higher value for the firm in the future, unless they cancel their relationship of course. Since the business had a net customer add of 34 in Q3&#39;21, there is no evidence that customers are unhappy with the services they receive. Palantir&#39;s total customer base increased at a massive 20% rate quarter over quarter in Q3&#39;21, proving significant momentum in customer sign-ups.</p><p>I am willing to change my opinion on Palantir if the firm&#39;s actual revenue growth rates and free cash flow margins drop below my estimates.</p><p><b>Final thoughts</b></p><p>Based off of free cash flow estimates, which do not include pay-offs from SPAC divestments, shares of Palantir trade at 16 X FY 2025 projected free cash flow, assuming a 10 PP FCF margin improvement in the next four years. This margin improvement could result from the launch of new high-margin products like Foundry for Crypto, the accelerating roll-out of Foundry for Builders and higher product spend on a per-customer basis. 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I don't see any good reason or justification for the sell-off as Palantir will continue to grow its top line rapidly and new service offerings are set to fuel the firm's commercial growth. That Palantir is overvalued, is a myth!Commercial revenue growth could accelerate as new products launchThere are few industries that have as fantastic growth prospects as the big data and analytics industry. Companies are accumulating more and more data from customers and their operations, requiring software solutions and artificial intelligence support to monetize this data most efficiently.What am I most excited about, as a Palantir investor, is Palantir's opening of a new growth frontier in the big data world. Palantir will start to roll out its \"Foundry for Crypto\" in FY 2022 which offers banks, FinTechs and other companies involved in the crypto economy a way to validate customer information and to implement anti-money laundering tools. Since the crypto universe is still highly unregulated, Palantir's Foundry for Crypto could make a big difference in legitimizing this industry.Blockchain technology and cryptocurrencies are here to stay and Palantir has a huge opportunity at its hands to develop a multi-million-dollar revenue business within a very short period of time. Key customers for Palantir's Foundry for Crypto are likely going to be financial institutions and crypto trading marketplaces like Coinbase (COIN) which have massive customer bases. Adoption of Palantir's Foundry for Crypto platform by leading market institutions could materially accelerate Palantir's commercial revenue growth.Because of the opening of a new business segment, I see strong prospects for revenue acceleration for Palantir in the foreseeable future. Palantir's commercial revenue growth accelerated throughout FY 2021 due to strong customer acquisition and growing adoption of the firm's products and services. Palantir's commercial revenue growth accelerated from 19% in Q1'21 to 28% in Q2'21, and then to 37% in Q3'21. Palantir's revenue acceleration in the commercial business was the reason why Palantir raised its free cash flow and revenue guidance for FY 2021. Because the commercial segment is growing increasingly fast, Palantir already raised its free cash flow outlook twice in FY 2021. The firm now expects free cash flow of $400M+ for FY 2021, after raising the guidance by 33% in Q3'21.Palantir is not overvalued based on expected free cash flow rampPalantir's business reached a critical point in FY 2021 and the proof is in the company's growing free cash flow margins. As the firm scales its services and leads more customers through its onboarding process, Palantir should see a significant improvement of its free cash flow margin going forward. Palantir's Q3'21 free cash flow was $119M which calculates to a free cash flow margin of 30%. I believe Palantir could grow its free cash flow margin to 40% by 2025, meaning the firm is set to become a seriously profitable business within the next four years.I also expect Palantir to grow revenues faster than the 30% that have been mentioned as a long-term growth target. The reason for this is that Palantir is signing on more customers and those customers spend more money on the firm's products and services over time, meaning monetization is improving. Assuming that Palantir can grow revenues at an annual 35% rate over the next four years, Palantir is looking at $5.0B in revenues and $2.0B in free cash flow by FY 2025. The calculation below is built on the assumption that Palantir's free cash flow margin will grow from 30% in FY 2021 to 40% by FY 2025. Over the next four years, Palantir should be able to increase its annual free cash flow by at least a factor of 4 X.And investors should not forget about this potentially massive income stream…The \"forgotten\" SPAC businessPalantir has come up with a clever revenue growth strategy that combines upside in SPAC investments with long-term software servicing contracts. Palantir is committing investing capital to startups that look to finance growth and, in return, the company gets equity and a signed contract for the provision of its software platforms. I rarely see this business discussed, but it presents considerable valuation upside for Palantir. In Q3'21, the firm's total investments in startups summarized to $226.5M. Palantir only needs one big exit from one of these SPAC investments listed below to generate a massive windfall.Risks with PalantirThe biggest risk for shares of Palantir, as I see it, is continual selling pressure that is the result of a profound misunderstanding related to how the firm's business model works in practice. Palantir's business is evolving and progress is measurable and undeniable. The proof is in Palantir's improving free cash flow margin and accelerating (commercial) revenue growth. Revenues can only accelerate if more companies adopt Palantir's services. Customers are also growing their platform spend, meaning each customer that signs with Palantir is going to have a higher value for the firm in the future, unless they cancel their relationship of course. Since the business had a net customer add of 34 in Q3'21, there is no evidence that customers are unhappy with the services they receive. Palantir's total customer base increased at a massive 20% rate quarter over quarter in Q3'21, proving significant momentum in customer sign-ups.I am willing to change my opinion on Palantir if the firm's actual revenue growth rates and free cash flow margins drop below my estimates.Final thoughtsBased off of free cash flow estimates, which do not include pay-offs from SPAC divestments, shares of Palantir trade at 16 X FY 2025 projected free cash flow, assuming a 10 PP FCF margin improvement in the next four years. This margin improvement could result from the launch of new high-margin products like Foundry for Crypto, the accelerating roll-out of Foundry for Builders and higher product spend on a per-customer basis. 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I love the business. The uncontrolled share growth is the main issue. PLTR should justify such an approach and explain when this is going to slow down.","text":"Totally agree! I love the business. The uncontrolled share growth is the main issue. PLTR should justify such an approach and explain when this is going to slow down.","html":"Totally agree! I love the business. The uncontrolled share growth is the main issue. 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