Tesla is already as profitable

2022-05-26

Tesla is already as profitable add both gm and Ford combined. Fcf is growing rapidly. Tesla had been reducing debt. Both gm and Ford still have massive debt and have to take on more to ramp ev production.

Agree there's a need to be vigilant and do due diligence. There's downside but s but it won't be only affects Tesla.

How Much Downside Does Tesla Have?

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PandoraHaggai
2022-05-27
PandoraHaggai
Would you consider buying Tesla below 600?
- Frosty4ever:
  absolutely. that's a very deep discount.
EvanHolt
2022-05-27
EvanHolt
But we have to admit that Tesla's market cap is far higher than other car companies.
LouisLowell
2022-05-27
LouisLowell
You're right, that's the Tesla over Ford.
madnugget
2022-05-26
madnugget
more down cos cathie bought more
S.B.D
2022-05-26
S.B.D
👍
annabg
2022-05-26
annabg
Ok

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The stock traded at less than $90 per share in early 2020, and ran as high as $1,243 before sliding more than 40% in this bear market.Such a big decline seems like an obvious \"buy-the-dip\" opportunity, but investors should consider the following before doing so.Shining a light on free cash flowLook at any earnings report and revenue and earnings-per-share (EPS) typically dominate the headlines. But don't underestimate the importance of free cash flow; it's the lifeblood of a business. It pays for the growth, dividends, and share repurchases that investors love. Meanwhile, bottom-line earnings can be deceiving because there could be non-cash items that skew the numbers.Image Source: Getty Images.Many investors see Tesla as more than a car company; some consider it a technology company for its work with artificial intelligence and autonomous driving. 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A dollar-cost averaging strategy can be beneficial, because you would buy chunks of shares slowly over time. If the stock soars, great -- you've been adding on the way up. If Tesla falls further for a while, you'll be lowering your total average cost as you go. 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