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2022-05-14

How much can Nasdaq falls? Let's approach this question with some historical numbers. We have more than 10 Nasdaq crashes and with 2000 and 2008 as the major crash which results in Nasday losing more than 70+% and 50+% respectively. All other crashes are around 20-30% region. So will this crash be just another minor crash or will it be real bad like 2000/2008? Let's look at more numbers. Nasdaq had a good run up of more than 1000% since 2011. Currently, Nasdaq PE is around 20. During 2008 crash, it fell to around 13. So based on these 2 numbers, it look like Nasdaq can afford to fall even more. It might not be as deep but at least do standby for another 30-40% drop from 11,000 as worst case scenario. Personally do not think it will go so deep but 8000-9000 region is very possible.

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So will this crash be just another minor crash or will it be real bad like 2000/2008? Let's look at more numbers. Nasdaq had a good run up of more than 1000% since 2011. Currently, Nasdaq PE is around 20. During 2008 crash, it fell to around 13. So based on these 2 numbers, it look like Nasdaq can afford to fall even more. It might not be as deep but at least do standby for another 30-40% drop from 11,000&nbsp;as worst case scenario. Personally do not think it will go so deep but 8000-9000 region is very possible.</p></body></html>","text":"up//@LimLS: How much can Nasdaq falls? Let's approach this question with some historical numbers. We have more than 10 Nasdaq crashes and with 2000 and 2008 as the major crash which results in Nasday losing more than 70+% and 50+% respectively. All other crashes are around 20-30% region. So will this crash be just another minor crash or will it be real bad like 2000/2008? Let's look at more numbers. 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Tech stocks have continued to drop precipitously as the Federal Reserve hikes interest rates and scales back on its bond-buying program, causing bond yields to rise. Increases in bond yields cut into the current discounted value of future profits -- the main criteria on which many tech companies are valued.</p><p>Bearish investors fear that multiples will continue to compress further as they have over the last few weeks -- the Nasdaq has dropped 27% year to date. There are widespread concerns that the Fed&#39;s policy could be driving the U.S. economy into a recession.</p><p>Ives pushed back on these assumptions Friday, saying the warnings were overplayed. Tech stocks already have factored in a mild recession, he said. In addition, an economic downturn could be what ultimately catalyzes the next innovators of the technology cycle.</p><p>Investors should be looking to own a mix of profitable and value tech names, while parsing out the best in the high-growth category, otherwise they may miss out on the best high-growth names after the storm has cleared.</p><p>In his view, the stocks to own include companies that are betting big on macro-cloud computing, cybersecurity, 5G smartphones, and electric vehicles. Think: <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">Apple</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MSFT\">Microsoft</a>, and <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a>, which are Ives&#39; large-cap top picks. He also favors cloud-exposed names like <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">Amazon.com</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOGL\">Alphabet</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ORCL\">Oracle</a>, and <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ADBE\">Adobe</a>. His cyber security basket includes <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PANW\">Palo Alto Networks</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/CHKP\">Check Point Software</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ZS\">Zscaler</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FTNT\">Fortinet</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TENB\">Tenable</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/CYBR\">CyberArk Sofware</a>, and <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/CRWD\">Crowdstrike</a>.</p><p>While Tesla is the biggest name in the EV category, he also highlighted Li-Cycle ( LICY), XOS ( XOS), Hyzon Motors ( HYZN), and ChargePoint ( CHPT). Value tech with strong end markets included Nice (NICE), Verint (VRNT), Progress Software (PRGS), Ziff Davis (ZD), and Consensus Cloud Solutions ( CCSI).</p><p>The have-nots may well turn out to be work-from-home plays, e-commerce stocks, real-estate heavy bids, and companies with bad management, he added.</p><p>Ives&#39; optimism isn&#39;t shared across the industry. Cole Smead, president and portfolio management at Smead Capital Management, said the firm was leaning toward energy and commodities in the short term, as the sector outperformed tech. He believes the tech sector is &#34;nowhere near&#34; bottoming out.</p><p>Citi&#39;s Robert Buckland was also more cautious, outlining in a research note Thursday that the company&#39;s global equities strategy currently favored cheap financials and commodity stocks over more expensive tech-related trades.</p><p>Whatever the case may be, tech investors should buckle up for a few more months of pain. 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Tech stocks have continued to drop precipitously as the Federal Reserve hikes interest rates and scales back on its bond-buying program, causing bond yields to rise. Increases in bond yields cut into the current discounted value of future profits -- the main criteria on which many tech companies are valued.Bearish investors fear that multiples will continue to compress further as they have over the last few weeks -- the Nasdaq has dropped 27% year to date. There are widespread concerns that the Fed's policy could be driving the U.S. economy into a recession.Ives pushed back on these assumptions Friday, saying the warnings were overplayed. Tech stocks already have factored in a mild recession, he said. In addition, an economic downturn could be what ultimately catalyzes the next innovators of the technology cycle.Investors should be looking to own a mix of profitable and value tech names, while parsing out the best in the high-growth category, otherwise they may miss out on the best high-growth names after the storm has cleared.In his view, the stocks to own include companies that are betting big on macro-cloud computing, cybersecurity, 5G smartphones, and electric vehicles. Think: Apple, Microsoft, and Tesla, which are Ives' large-cap top picks. He also favors cloud-exposed names like Amazon.com, Alphabet, Oracle, and Adobe. His cyber security basket includes Palo Alto Networks, Check Point Software, Zscaler, Fortinet, Tenable, CyberArk Sofware, and Crowdstrike.While Tesla is the biggest name in the EV category, he also highlighted Li-Cycle ( LICY), XOS ( XOS), Hyzon Motors ( HYZN), and ChargePoint ( CHPT). Value tech with strong end markets included Nice (NICE), Verint (VRNT), Progress Software (PRGS), Ziff Davis (ZD), and Consensus Cloud Solutions ( CCSI).The have-nots may well turn out to be work-from-home plays, e-commerce stocks, real-estate heavy bids, and companies with bad management, he added.Ives' optimism isn't shared across the industry. Cole Smead, president and portfolio management at Smead Capital Management, said the firm was leaning toward energy and commodities in the short term, as the sector outperformed tech. He believes the tech sector is \"nowhere near\" bottoming out.Citi's Robert Buckland was also more cautious, outlining in a research note Thursday that the company's global equities strategy currently favored cheap financials and commodity stocks over more expensive tech-related trades.Whatever the case may be, tech investors should buckle up for a few more months of pain. 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