I learnt my lesson after getti

2022-02-16

I learnt my lesson after getting burnt on $Quantumscape Corp.(QS)$big time.... never invest in loss-making companies no matter how good the "future" story sounds. I don't think the peers are safer counters to plonk money in as well.

Why Did Plug Power, Bloom Energy, and Fuelcell Energy All Popped on Tuesday?

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dimsum
2022-02-16
dimsum
I agree with your point of view. Buying shares in this company is scary every day.
- Evey77:
  Indeed, and stomach churning when it goes down; unlike good companies, which I still feel ok about knowing one day they will surely rebound.
ladyman
2022-02-16
ladyman
Buying loss stocks is a bit like gambling.
- Evey77:
  Well said
khorsoo
2022-02-17
khorsoo
buy n dump. dont hold. it is just human trying to hold on. Don't...not worth the ache later. not all shares the same but u dont hv the time to figure them all of them out.
Evey77
2022-02-19
Evey77
Have to wait for next wave up… My avg px is very high, from eons ago [LOL]
Joseph23
2022-03-18
Joseph23
It pays to be patient bro.
ET77
2022-02-16
ET77
Treat as tuition feEs 😃

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Buying shares in this company is scary every day.","text":"I agree with your point of view. Buying shares in this company is scary every day.","html":"I agree with your point of view. Buying shares in this company is scary every day.","likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"subComments":[{"id":100565723,"gmtCreate":1645064840142,"gmtModify":1663243927468,"authorId":3570619054429964,"author":{"id":3570619054429964,"authorId":3570619054429964,"name":"Evey77","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8a042e238635d0f206ea5cc76045eb40","vip":1,"currentWearingBadge":{"badgeId":"4e86300037264823b9bb00ff44fc0f19-3","templateUuid":"4e86300037264823b9bb00ff44fc0f19","name":"Live trading challenger","description":"for 6 months","bigImgUrl":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1f5e9ba8fa00e845d15505fef84941ce","smallImgUrl":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/890d6c2bdab9dd1b255a1e7e9ae2264f","grayImgUrl":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/aeea12778e0c2c686984e1efc3ed8fd4","redirectLinkEnabled":1,"redirectLink":"https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/activity/market/2023/stock-contest?adcode=StockContest2023","hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":1,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2024.05.03","individualDisplayEnabled":0,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":5600},"crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":9095739385,"type":1,"supId":100554883,"prevId":0,"content":"Indeed, and stomach churning when it goes down; unlike good companies, which I still feel ok about knowing one day they will surely rebound.","text":"Indeed, and stomach churning when it goes down; unlike good companies, which I still feel ok about knowing one day they will surely rebound.","html":"Indeed, and stomach churning when it goes down; unlike good companies, which I still feel ok about knowing one day they will surely rebound."}],"verified":10,"allocateAmount":0,"commentType":"valid","coins":0,"score":0},{"id":100554881,"gmtCreate":1644993637385,"gmtModify":1644993637385,"authorId":3479274804085724,"author":{"id":3479274804085724,"authorId":3479274804085724,"name":"ladyman","avatar":"https://static.laohu8.com/picture161","vip":8,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":9095739385,"type":1,"supId":0,"prevId":0,"content":"Buying loss stocks is a bit like gambling.","text":"Buying loss stocks is a bit like gambling.","html":"Buying loss stocks is a bit like gambling.","likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"subComments":[{"id":100565686,"gmtCreate":1645064707688,"gmtModify":1663243928044,"authorId":3570619054429964,"author":{"id":3570619054429964,"authorId":3570619054429964,"name":"Evey77","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8a042e238635d0f206ea5cc76045eb40","vip":1,"currentWearingBadge":{"badgeId":"4e86300037264823b9bb00ff44fc0f19-3","templateUuid":"4e86300037264823b9bb00ff44fc0f19","name":"Live trading challenger","description":"for 6 months","bigImgUrl":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/1f5e9ba8fa00e845d15505fef84941ce","smallImgUrl":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/890d6c2bdab9dd1b255a1e7e9ae2264f","grayImgUrl":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/aeea12778e0c2c686984e1efc3ed8fd4","redirectLinkEnabled":1,"redirectLink":"https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/activity/market/2023/stock-contest?adcode=StockContest2023","hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":1,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2024.05.03","individualDisplayEnabled":0,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":5600},"crmLevel":8,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":9095739385,"type":1,"supId":100554881,"prevId":0,"content":"Well said ","text":"Well said ","html":"Well said "}],"verified":10,"allocateAmount":0,"commentType":"valid","coins":0,"score":0},{"id":100569353,"gmtCreate":1645094574673,"gmtModify":1663243944350,"authorId":3575026812405763,"author":{"id":3575026812405763,"authorId":3575026812405763,"name":"khorsoo","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b1eed93c63ec07eabff3f71d1a91125b","vip":1,"hat":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/646756f1284a5a6480ed02cc4fa7d1d2","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":9095739385,"type":1,"supId":0,"prevId":0,"content":"buy n dump. dont hold. it is just human trying to hold on. Don't...not worth the ache later. not all shares the same but u dont hv the time to figure them all of them out.","text":"buy n dump. dont hold. it is just human trying to hold on. Don't...not worth the ache later. not all shares the same but u dont hv the time to figure them all of them out.","html":"buy n dump. dont hold. it is just human trying to hold on. 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