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2022-08-08

Don't be fooled by the article this year's scenario is completely different

The S&P 500 May Be Near The Most Dangerous Phase Of The Bear Market

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WLTan2
2022-08-08
WLTan2
So seems like market likely to crash again? Since Core CPI still high?
- Jonna88:
  But oil price has fallen alot
- Jonna88:
  Idk dyodd
WLTan2
2022-08-08
WLTan2
How so? Can elaborate?
- Jonna88ReplyJonna88:
  CPI excluding food and energy has been stable not like Core CPI which has been pushing up a lot
- Jonna88:
  This year’s 30% drop fuelled by soaring inflation mainly due to high oil price bcos of war. Just look at the CPI for July i gotta strong feeling it will fall quite a good percentage

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The S&amp;P 500 of 2000 was more resilient at first, retesting its March 2000 highs again in September 2000. After that, the index saw a pronounced sell-off, followed by a January 2001 rally. That January 2001 rally marked the final rebound, followed by a nearly 20% decline into April 2001.Again, the market of today is at the same point in time. Therefore, if the S&amp;P 500 is going to turn lower and follow the path of 2000, that sharp decline could happen over the next couple of weeks.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c67e3a7716980557c4c7d467f03d1b40\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"255\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>Bloomberg2008Finally, the bear market of 2008 seems to match the S&amp;P 500 of 2022 the most closely. A 5,218-day offset lines the double bottom in the fall of 2020 up with the double bottom in the spring of 2006. Like the two previous bear market examples, after peaking in October 2007, the S&amp;P 500 went lower on a slow and steady decline of nearly 19%. That was followed by a rally in the spring of 2008, which led to a gain of almost 12%. Of course, after that rally, the S&amp;P 500 again found itself turning lower, erasing the spring gains.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8d85ceaf1cd7900663bbf9dbbe300dee\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"357\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>BloombergSimilaritiesThe declines may differ in each of these cases, but it isn&#39;t the reason that matters. It is the patterns the market followed that matter. When overlaying 1937, 2000, and 2008 all together on one chart, they show that the bull rally phases had nearly the same duration, with all peaking within a 6-month time frame, followed by a sharp decline, a very sharp countertrend rally followed by a significantly steeper decline.<img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/03c254a06087baa45767c1b5a5d0c6aa\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"357\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/>BloombergDoes this mean the market of 2022 has to follow the same path? 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Since Core CPI still high? ","text":"So seems like market likely to crash again? Since Core CPI still high? ","html":"So seems like market likely to crash again? Since Core CPI still high? 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Can elaborate?","text":"How so? Can elaborate?","html":"How so? 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