The main factor determining th

2022-10-07

The main factor determining the magnitude of rate hike is the inflation.

The market wants to take comfort that if Friday's data is worse off, the Fed will ease back on the rate hikes. However I am not too hopeful. The message is clear that even if recession happens, the inflation has to be tamed.

I am expecting more room for stock prices to fall with the next earnings season and alsothe next Fed meeting. The market has priced in 0.75% but if inflation remains high, there is a chance higher rate hike would be needed.

The main contributors to inflation are still present. The high energy prices which has eased back a little may come back up with the higher demand with the winter season. The supply chain imbalance have not eased yet and China is still on a zero covid policy.

I believe there is still room for stock prices to drop till the end of the year. I will patientlywait...

US STOCKS-Wall Street Closes Lower As the Fed Pounds Rate Hike Drum

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2022-10-07
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  Yes… painful year…
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The S&P 500 has declined 22% from its peak on Jan. 3.Despite the day's decline, the three major indexes were poised to post a weekly gain after the sharp rally on Monday and Tuesday.The labor market remains tight even as demand begins to cool amid higher rates. On Friday the nonfarm payrolls report on employment in September will help investors gauge whether the Fed alters its aggressive rate-hiking plans.Money markets are pricing in an almost 86% chance of a fourth straight 75 basis-point rate hike when policymakers meet on Nov. 1-2.To be clear, not everyone foresees a hard landing.Dave Sekera, chief U.S. market strategist at Morningstar Inc , said growth will remain sluggish for the foreseeable future and likely will not start to reaccelerate until the second half of 2023, but he does not see a sharp downturn.\"We're not forecasting a recession,\" Sekera said. \"The markets are looking for clarity as to when they think economic activity will reaccelerate and make that sustained rebound.\"They're also looking for strong evidence that inflation will begin to really trend down, moving back towards the Fed's 2% target,\" he said.Ten of the 11 major S&P 500 sectors fell, led by a 3.3% decline in real estate. Other indices also fell, including semiconductors, small caps and Dow transports. Growth shares fell 0.76%, while value dropped 1.18%.Energy was the sole gainer, rising 1.8%.Oil prices rose, holding at three-week highs after the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries plus its allies agreed to cut production targets by 2 million barrels per day (bpd), the largest reduction since 2020.The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 346.93 points, or 1.15%, to 29,926.94, the S&P 500 lost 38.76 points, or 1.02%, to 3,744.52 and the Nasdaq Composite dropped 75.33 points, or 0.68%, to 11,073.31.Tesla Inc fell 1.1% as Apollo Global Management Inc and Sixth Street Partners, which had been looking to provide financing for Elon Musk's $44 billion Twitter deal, are no longer in talks with the billionaire.Alphabet Inc closed basically flat after the launch of Google's new phones and its first smart watch.Volume on U.S. exchanges was 10.57 billion shares, compared with the 11.67 billion average for the full session over the past 20 trading days.Declining issues outnumbered 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