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2023-01-26

As for the reduction in Tesla price, I don't understand why these experts here are worried about, it is infact a good strategy to ensure Tesla has the biggest pie in EV market in the next 3-5 years... basically selling it for less but they sell more in volume!!! If they are going to the market at this price point, it will slow down their competitors' expansion, other start-up EV makers should be worried about this!!! Come on for the same price, I wouldn't pay more for Polestar, ID4, Hyudai, Kia, etc.... the engineering of Tesla vehicle is in another level...by the way, Teska manufacturing techniques give Tesla mire profit margins oer vehicle.. so don't forget that.

Musk’s Big Tesla Growth Target Is a Problem

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Photographer: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images North AmericaIt pays to parse the language of any company’s earnings report, but perhaps more so for Tesla Inc. You could say it’s in the corporate genes. After all, Chief Executive Elon Musk has spent much of the past several days trying to convince a jury that he really did have “funding secured” in 2018. That’s despite his mooted multi-billion dollar take-private deal seeming to have had less in the way of documented pre-approvals than your average household mortgage application.The line that caught my eye on Wednesday evening concerned guidance, with Tesla aiming to produce 1.8 million vehicles this year and, thereby, “remain ahead of the long-term 50% CAGR,” or compound annual growth rate. 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Inventory jumped and implied average selling prices, excluding leased vehicles and regulatory credits, dipped under $52,000, their lowest in a year. Even that figure was boosted by roughly $800 via the recognition of $324 million of deferred revenue linked to Tesla’s generously named Full Self Driving package. Gross profit per vehicle sold, at about $12,300, was the lowest in almost two years. Free cash flow dropped by a third, year-over-year, well shy of forecasts.This is not surprising, but it is troubling. It isn’t surprising because companies chasing growth quite often run into the problem of boosting capacity faster than sales. Tesla produced 1.37 million vehicles last year but lists capacity of more than 1.9 million, with new and expanded factories expected in markets from Mexico to Indonesia.It is troubling because, despite the collapse in Tesla’s stock over the past year or so, it still trades at a 77% premium to the S&P 500 based on multiples of forward earnings estimates — estimates that look vulnerable after these results. Tesla remains priced for growth, but the growth story comes with the caveats of using average multi-year percentages and evident reliance on price cuts. The latter are especially inimical to Tesla’s aura because price cuts to move product are what you get from regular old car companies that trade on single-digit earnings multiples (Tesla’s is 32 times).Even worse, regular old car companies haven’t been cutting prices of late, despite lower deliveries. This owes partly to the pandemic-related disruption of supply chains, leaving dealer lots sparse and giving the industry a relatively rare dose of pricing power. The likes of Ford Motor Co. took this on board in terms of aligning production more closely with sales. That is, in effect, the opposite of what’s happened with Tesla as it chases growth.During Wednesday evening’s Q&A, Musk touted Tesla’s AI capabilities. Framing Tesla as being more than an autos company has long been an effective way of boosting its valuation — albeit less effective of late. This year’s challenge for Tesla won’t be delivering robotaxis or a walking robot. It will be dealing with soft demand amid a potential recession that Musk seems to regard as all but certain. 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