I share a contrarian view and

2022-10-17

I share a contrarian view and think it's going to be tougher for Pinterest to monetise... Pinterest brings to mind Facebook which everyone knows is finding it harder to be profitable. I would think Shopify is more likely to be the winner given it's easier to understand business model.

More Likely to 5x First: Pinterest vs. Shopify

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EricVaughan
2022-10-17
EricVaughan
Interesting point of view! I think what you said is reasonable. Let's look forward to its future development.
DaisyMoore
2022-10-17
DaisyMoore
If it can grasp the number of media and users, it may have a very good development prospect.

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Shopify has the number two e-commerce market share and could continue ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/10/14/more-likely-to-5x-first-pinterest-vs-shopify/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"SHOP":"Shopify Inc","PINS":"Pinterest, Inc."},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/10/14/more-likely-to-5x-first-pinterest-vs-shopify/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2275933826","content_text":"Pinterest and Shopify haven't exactly been great performers, but both of these companies still have incredible growth potential. 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This makes sense -- as the world gradually returned to normal, people had less time to browse on social media platforms.However, the user declines have now stabilized. Pinterest has actually added 2 million active users in 2022. But the real story is monetization. The average active Pinterest user generates 17% more revenue for the company than it did a year ago, and the company is still in the very early stages of international monetization. The average U.S. Pinterest user generated $5.82 in revenue in the second quarter, but the average user outside of the U.S. and Europe produced just $0.10. And the majority of users are in this category. If it could achieve just a fraction of its domestic monetization overseas, Pinterest's revenue would skyrocket.Plus, Pinterest's model has so far been a traditional social media advertising one, for the most part. But the company is in the early stages of figuring out how it fits in the e-commerce landscape. 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I think what you said is reasonable. Let's look forward to its future development.","text":"Interesting point of view! I think what you said is reasonable. Let's look forward to its future development.","html":"Interesting point of view! I think what you said is reasonable. Let's look forward to its future development.","likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"subComments":[],"verified":10,"allocateAmount":0,"commentType":"valid","coins":0,"score":0},{"id":104385985,"gmtCreate":1666018168154,"gmtModify":1666018172198,"authorId":9000000000000640,"author":{"id":9000000000000640,"authorId":9000000000000640,"name":"DaisyMoore","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0b6d4586dc3002807c92bc57e1b3a6bd","vip":8,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"individualDisplayBadges":[]},"repliedAuthorId":0,"objectId":9989211109,"type":1,"supId":0,"prevId":0,"content":"If it can grasp the number of media and users, it may have a very good development prospect.","text":"If it can grasp the number of media and users, it may have a very good development prospect.","html":"If it can grasp the number of media and users, it may have a very good development prospect.","likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"subComments":[],"verified":10,"allocateAmount":0,"commentType":"valid","coins":0,"score":0}],"isCommentEnd":false,"isTiger":false,"isWeiXinMini":false,"url":"/m/post/9989211109"}