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阿里巴巴已经把腾讯逼到了十字路口
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href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/WB\">微博</a>,优酷等,而且都要求拥有绝对控制权。</p><p>这么做的目的就是为了让这些外部公司的流量,能够在阿里母体里充分变现。</p><p>如果像微信或者<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BIDU\">百度</a>这样的第三方,撕开了一道新兴的免费流量口,将对阿里造成底层商业模式上的冲击。</p><p>一个简单的例子是:如果淘宝的小商家们在微信的免费私域流量风声水起,它还愿意回到淘宝吗?还会继续缴纳在阿里的坑位费?</p><p>因此,如果淘宝进入微信,那不叫寻找新增流量,而是:</p><p>自废武功。</p><p>绝顶聪明的阿里,断然不会这么“傻”。</p><p>2</p><p>微信确实是个诱人的流量池,因为在这片土壤里,滋养了阿里最大的对手——<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PDD\">拼多多</a>。</p><p>拼多多最新的财报显示,拼多多年度活跃用户已经超过了阿里巴巴。</p><p><img src=\"http://k.sinaimg.cn/n/spider2021326/0/w600h1000/20210326/5166-kmvwsvy1308283.jpg/w720fin.jpg\" tg-width=\"600\" tg-height=\"1000\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p><p>这可能是中国互联网的转折点:</p><p>一家跟淘宝差异并不大的新兴电商公司,可以在如此短时间里实现复制和超越。</p><p>这种现象级的增长,背后的核心原因只有一个:</p><p>微信的流量。</p><p>腾讯曾经因为失败的产品,折戟电商,因此外界普遍认为腾讯不具有电商基因。</p><p>然而在过去几年,购物流量的类型已经从主动购买流量,逐渐向朋友推荐型流量迈进。</p><p>腾讯迎来了社交流量导入电商的最佳时机,拼多多和小程序零售正在成为腾讯做电商的典型案例。</p><p>所以与其说这是拼多多与淘宝的战争,不如说是腾讯与阿里的战斗。</p><p>但是,如果因为拼多多的案例,就认为微信可以接受淘宝特价版的到来,那就未免太天真。</p><p>第一,微信的流量虽然免费的,但拼多多为了能够获得腾讯的支持,付出了16.5%的股权。这是相对合理的价码,也是商业法则。</p><p>第二,微信其本质还是社交工具,张小龙保护已久,过去很多年排斥微信的过度商业化,如果大量电商营销内容充斥微信,必定会引起微信的反弹。</p><p>第三,过去多年,阿里和腾讯泾渭分明,更是互联网世界里的两极公司,各自都视对方为最大的战略对手。</p><p>如果腾讯接受阿里的进入,那么阿里是否能够接受腾讯产品进入阿里呢?</p><p>目前来看,这个事情是无解的,因为大家都心知肚明,淘宝特价版与微信的合作,只是一场刻意而为的表演。</p><p>如今的腾讯,我想应该处于了进退两难的境地:</p><p>接受阿里,不符合公司商业逻辑。</p><p>不接受阿里,陷入反垄断讨伐。</p><p>3</p><p>一定程度上说,未来几年的商业竞争,商业本身是其次的,每家大公司,其实都是在反垄断的压力下,如履薄冰。</p><p>蚂蚁IPO,能够在这么短的时间里被叫停,折射出了顶层对遏制强大的技术平台和科技行业无序扩张的决心。</p><p>阿里前车之鉴,让腾讯更是战战兢兢。就在昨天的财报会上,马化腾也首次回应反垄断:将积极配合监管。</p><p>淘宝特价版申请进入微信小程序,无疑是将腾讯逼到了十字路口。</p><p>接下来,淘宝特价版和微信的走向可能存在两个可能性:</p><p>第一、腾讯基于商业目的,拒绝阿里,腾讯引起舆论反垄断的讨伐。</p><p>第二、腾讯真正与阿里达成合作,背后推动者应该是更神秘的力量。</p>","source":"sina_symbol","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE 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