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NatMeg
11-13
🤣😆 you guys are part of the media spin
Cathie Wood Dumps $30 Million Worth of Tesla Stock Amid China Sales Slump, Loads up Circle and This Hot Chinese AI Stock
NatMeg
07-31
Electrk is biased garbage
Tesla Stops Taking Model S/X Orders in Europe
NatMeg
02-02
U should have called it at 480. All u are doing is riding on trump tariff noise
Tesla: Once Again, It's Time To Trim
NatMeg
2024-12-30
What if u are wrong again 🫣
NatMeg
2024-09-17
Good luck with the short. Make sure you keep some cash on the side for Retirement.
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NatMeg
2024-07-18
Who cares about price targets from analyst??
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NatMeg
2024-07-16
Electrek is garbage. blind Tesla hater
Elon Musk Confirms Tesla Robotaxi Delay, Says Front Design Change
NatMeg
2024-07-15
Are u sure?
Tesla Stock Jumps 6% As Elon Musk Says He “Fully” Endorses Trump After Trump Attack
NatMeg
2024-06-09
Reuters is a waste of time
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NatMeg
2024-05-15
What stupid article is this?
NatMeg
2024-05-09
Hit piece. Delay tactics by enemies of Elon.
Tesla Falls 3% After Report US Autopilot Probe to Focus on Securities, Wire Fraud
NatMeg
2024-05-02
Reuters always spew lies and fake stories
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NatMeg
2023-09-15
$ARM Holdings Ltd(ARM)$
NatMeg
2022-08-08
Stupid article lol
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NatMeg
2022-03-01
Don't make me laugh
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NatMeg
2022-01-03
Why do u only show Nov production numbers?
Will Nio Recover in 2022?
NatMeg
2021-09-16
$266M out of $3,260M is not even 1% of her total Tesla holdings…
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These trades reflect Ark’s strategic positioning in the market, with notable buys in Circle and Alibaba, and a sell-off in Tesla.</p><h2 id=\"id_1400706566\" style=\"text-align: start;\">The TSLA Trade: </h2><p>Ark Invest reduced its holdings in Tesla<strong> </strong>by selling 70,474 shares through <strong><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ARKK\">ARK Innovation ETF</a></strong> and <strong><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ARKW\">ARK Next Generation Internet ETF</a></strong>. Tesla’s stock closed at $430.60 on Wednesday, marking a 2.05% decline. The trade is valued at approximately $30.3 million.</p><p>This move comes amid reports of Tesla’s declining sales in China, where October deliveries fell by 36% year-over-year to 26,000 units. Year-to-date deliveries are down roughly 40,000 vehicles, putting the company at risk of its first annual decline in the market. Including exports, total deliveries from Tesla's Shanghai factory dropped 9.9% to 61,497 vehicles.</p><p>Notably, Ark dumped $2.4 million worth of Tesla shares on Monday. The firm also sold 789 shares of the Elon Musk-headed automaker on Tuesday.</p><h2 id=\"id_1801452050\" style=\"text-align: start;\">The Circle Trade</h2><p>Ark Invest made a substantial purchase of Circle shares, acquiring 245,830 shares via the ARKK ETF and 70,613 shares through ARKW. Circle’s stock closed at $86.30, down 12.21% on Wednesday, valuing the transaction at approximately $30.5 million.</p><p>Despite the <strong>USDC</strong> issuer’s impressive 202% profit surge in the third quarter, the stock’s decline suggests investor skepticism about its long-term growth potential. Circle’s third-quarter net income reached $214 million, with total revenue and reserve income increasing by 66% to $740 million.</p><h2 id=\"id_2486105261\" style=\"text-align: start;\">The Alibaba Trade</h2><p>Ark Invest also increased its stake in Alibaba, purchasing 4,878 shares via ARKK, 364 shares through <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ARKF\">ARK Fintech Innovation ETF</a>, and 1,396 shares with ARKW. Alibaba’s stock closed at $157.91, down 1.8% on Wednesday, with the trade valued at approximately $1.05 million.</p><p>The Jack Ma-founded company continues to attract investors with its focus on artificial intelligence, cloud infrastructure, and instant-commerce delivery. 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These trades reflect Ark’s strategic positioning in the market, with notable buys in Circle and Alibaba, and a sell-off in Tesla.The TSLA Trade: Ark Invest reduced its holdings in Tesla by selling 70,474 shares through ARK Innovation ETF and ARK Next Generation Internet ETF. Tesla’s stock closed at $430.60 on Wednesday, marking a 2.05% decline. The trade is valued at approximately $30.3 million.This move comes amid reports of Tesla’s declining sales in China, where October deliveries fell by 36% year-over-year to 26,000 units. Year-to-date deliveries are down roughly 40,000 vehicles, putting the company at risk of its first annual decline in the market. Including exports, total deliveries from Tesla's Shanghai factory dropped 9.9% to 61,497 vehicles.Notably, Ark dumped $2.4 million worth of Tesla shares on Monday. The firm also sold 789 shares of the Elon Musk-headed automaker on Tuesday.The Circle TradeArk Invest made a substantial purchase of Circle shares, acquiring 245,830 shares via the ARKK ETF and 70,613 shares through ARKW. Circle’s stock closed at $86.30, down 12.21% on Wednesday, valuing the transaction at approximately $30.5 million.Despite the USDC issuer’s impressive 202% profit surge in the third quarter, the stock’s decline suggests investor skepticism about its long-term growth potential. Circle’s third-quarter net income reached $214 million, with total revenue and reserve income increasing by 66% to $740 million.The Alibaba TradeArk Invest also increased its stake in Alibaba, purchasing 4,878 shares via ARKK, 364 shares through ARK Fintech Innovation ETF, and 1,396 shares with ARKW. Alibaba’s stock closed at $157.91, down 1.8% on Wednesday, with the trade valued at approximately $1.05 million.The Jack Ma-founded company continues to attract investors with its focus on artificial intelligence, cloud infrastructure, and instant-commerce delivery. 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It’s not the first time it happened, but it still raises questions.Shares of Tesla dropped 0.63% on...","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Tesla has stopped taking new orders for its flagship Model S and Model X vehicles in Europe. It’s not the first time it happened, but it still raises questions.</p><p>Shares of Tesla dropped 0.63% on Wednesday.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/d1576b03550679ba2661b173a19b13fa\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"623\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Following the 2021 Model S/X refresh, Tesla ceased taking new orders for the vehicles in Europe for an unexpectedly long period.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The refreshed models were unveiled in January 2021, and Tesla continued to take orders through December 2021, after which they stopped.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">It didn’t reopen orders in Europe until August 2022.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Now, something similar is happening with the new refresh.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">In June, Tesla unveiled another minor refresh of the Model S and Model X.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Now, just over a month later, Tesla has stopped taking new orders for the Model S and Model X in Europe. The automaker deactivated the online configurators and instead, it redirects to the main Model S and Model X pages, where buyers can still find some inventory vehicles.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">At this time, the reason for the stoppage in taking orders is unclear, but it may be due to a supply issue.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla only produces Model S and Model X vehicles at its Fremont factory in California. With the last refresh, Tesla had difficulties ramping up production.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Now, Tesla has significantly reduced its production capacity for these vehicle programs, as demand has declined over the last few years.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Currently, Tesla quotes a 2-month wait time to receive a new, made-to-order Model S in California.</p><h2 id=\"h-electrek-s-take\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Electrek’s Take</h2><p style=\"text-align: start;\">When the lead time for ordering is too long, as it currently could be in Europe, and California is at 2 months, Tesla has sometimes shut down new orders.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">It could be as simple as that.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Tesla needs to ramp up Model S/X production after the refresh to meet demand in North America before returning to Europe.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The automaker could also be careful about locking in a price for Model S/X months in advance. The US is now imposing 15% tariffs on Japan, where Model S/X battery cells are produced. The situation has been fluid, making it hard for Tesla to predict costs.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1627037122897","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stops Taking Model S/X Orders in Europe</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stops Taking Model S/X Orders in Europe\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2025-07-30 23:57 GMT+8 <a href=https://electrek.co/2025/07/30/tesla-stops-taking-model-s-x-orders-in-europe/><strong>Electrek</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Tesla has stopped taking new orders for its flagship Model S and Model X vehicles in Europe. It’s not the first time it happened, but it still raises questions.Shares of Tesla dropped 0.63% on ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://electrek.co/2025/07/30/tesla-stops-taking-model-s-x-orders-in-europe/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://electrek.co/2025/07/30/tesla-stops-taking-model-s-x-orders-in-europe/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1132740458","content_text":"Tesla has stopped taking new orders for its flagship Model S and Model X vehicles in Europe. It’s not the first time it happened, but it still raises questions.Shares of Tesla dropped 0.63% on Wednesday.Following the 2021 Model S/X refresh, Tesla ceased taking new orders for the vehicles in Europe for an unexpectedly long period.The refreshed models were unveiled in January 2021, and Tesla continued to take orders through December 2021, after which they stopped.It didn’t reopen orders in Europe until August 2022.Now, something similar is happening with the new refresh.In June, Tesla unveiled another minor refresh of the Model S and Model X.Now, just over a month later, Tesla has stopped taking new orders for the Model S and Model X in Europe. The automaker deactivated the online configurators and instead, it redirects to the main Model S and Model X pages, where buyers can still find some inventory vehicles.At this time, the reason for the stoppage in taking orders is unclear, but it may be due to a supply issue.Tesla only produces Model S and Model X vehicles at its Fremont factory in California. With the last refresh, Tesla had difficulties ramping up production.Now, Tesla has significantly reduced its production capacity for these vehicle programs, as demand has declined over the last few years.Currently, Tesla quotes a 2-month wait time to receive a new, made-to-order Model S in California.Electrek’s TakeWhen the lead time for ordering is too long, as it currently could be in Europe, and California is at 2 months, Tesla has sometimes shut down new orders.It could be as simple as that.Tesla needs to ramp up Model S/X production after the refresh to meet demand in North America before returning to Europe.The automaker could also be careful about locking in a price for Model S/X months in advance. The US is now imposing 15% tariffs on Japan, where Model S/X battery cells are produced. The situation has been fluid, making it hard for Tesla to predict costs.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"TSLA":1.1}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":859,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":399188817936608,"gmtCreate":1738483342479,"gmtModify":1738487076903,"author":{"id":"3574213079513866","authorId":"3574213079513866","name":"NatMeg","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/425463aa7de7f81def2d836be3ff01e3","crmLevel":13,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3574213079513866","idStr":"3574213079513866"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"U should have called it at 480. All u are doing is riding on trump tariff noise","listText":"U should have called it at 480. All u are doing is riding on trump tariff noise","text":"U should have called it at 480. All u are doing is riding on trump tariff noise","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/399188817936608","repostId":"1175504218","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1175504218","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1738476351,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1175504218?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2025-02-02 14:05","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla: Once Again, It's Time To Trim","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1175504218","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"Let's dive in.Our Tesla FrameworkIn case you missed our earlier articles on TSLA, here's a quick summary of how we see the stock. Normally, we'd skip writing a section like this, but TSLA is a very volatile, speculative bet, and many investors look at the financials and see entirely different things. Thus, we think it's necessary, first, to establish how we think about the company.In short, we see TSLA as an advanced manufacturing firm, mostly producing cars. Sure, TSLA also manufactures batteri","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2 id=\"id_2350035770\">Summary</h2><ul style=\"\"><li><p>We initially rated Tesla, Inc. stock a Sell in November 2023 due to slowing growth and a lofty valuation. From there, the stock fell 31%.</p></li><li><p>Then, we upgraded Tesla in April 2024 after the market appeared too negative on shares. Since, the stock has risen 126%, driven by speculation around Robotaxis and autonomous driving.</p></li><li><p>Now, Tesla appears overvalued again. We recommend trimming TSLA from your portfolio due to overly optimistic projections around “future products”.</p></li><li><p>We're downgrading TSLA to a Sell.</p></li></ul><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/cdc1cd3d3c3dd57b72a9ddb8d4037dbd\" alt=\"White cyborg robotic hand pointing his finger - 3D rendering isolated on free PNG background.\" title=\"White cyborg robotic hand pointing his finger - 3D rendering isolated on free PNG background.\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/><span>White cyborg robotic hand pointing his finger - 3D rendering isolated on free PNG background.</span></p><p></p><p>Of all the stocks we've covered here on Seeking Alpha, we're particularly proud of our track record when it comes to <strong>Tesla, Inc.</strong> (NASDAQ:TSLA).</p><p>Our coverage began on the stock in November 2023, when we called the stock a <strong>Sell</strong> based on the company's slowing growth and lack of progress on key initiatives. At the time, the multiple seemed a bit rich for the company's output, so we came out as bears:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla: The Range Of Outcomes Is Narrowing; That's A Bad Thing.</p></li></ul><p>From that point, the stock <strong>fell roughly 31%</strong>, until we upgraded it on April 9th, 2024.</p><p>At that point, shares seemed unduly beat up, in our view, and we upgraded TSLA:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla: When The Time Comes To Buy, You Won't Want To (Rating Upgrade).</p></li></ul><p>Since then, the stock is <strong>back up roughly 126%</strong>, in which time we put out another bullish article about Robotaxis, arguing that speculation around future gains in autonomous driving and Optimus could drive continued appreciation for investors:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5581c8a7e68cb36fb694d47a44ae5139\" alt=\"TSLA\" title=\"TSLA\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"412\"/><span>TSLA</span></p><p></p><p>All of this is to say that we feel like we have a “good bead” on the company's valuation and business dynamics.</p><p>From that frame, we feel that the stock has once again become 'too expensive', and it appears as though it could be time, once again, to trim.</p><p><strong>Today</strong>, we'll cover the recent earnings report, examine the stock's lofty valuation, and explain why, on balance, we think it's time to begin pruning TSLA out of your portfolio — at least for now.</p><p>Sound good? Let's dive in.</p><h2 id=\"id_4071302040\">Our Tesla Framework</h2><p>In case you missed our earlier articles on TSLA, here's a quick summary of how we see the stock. Normally, we'd skip writing a section like this, but TSLA is a very volatile, <strong>speculative</strong> bet, and many investors look at the financials and see entirely different things. Thus, we think it's necessary, first, to establish how we think about the company.</p><p>In short, we see TSLA as an advanced manufacturing firm, <strong>mostly</strong> producing cars. Sure, TSLA also manufactures batteries and other components in its <strong>Energy</strong> segment, but at its heart, the firm is an automotive company.</p><p>Why? Because this is where most of TSLA's financial results are derived. A massive chunk of the company's revenues come from the automotive segment, which means that this is a natural point of comparison for analysts:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/93a2427e63efa5746b2965c9ceb9e2e4\" alt=\"TSLA\" title=\"TSLA\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"80\"/><span>TSLA</span></p><p></p><p>Thus, when contrasted with competitors, Tesla's $1.3 trillion valuation can be very challenging to comprehend.</p><p>In our view, this valuation difference vs. peers is largely down to TSLA's “upcoming” product launches, mainly <strong>full self-drive (“FSD”) & Robotaxis</strong>, and <strong>Optimus</strong> (the robot):</p><blockquote><p></p><p>A significant portion of Tesla's current value is tied to higher margin, non-automotive, ['future'] products like Robotaxi, Dojo, and Optimus.</p><p>We'd estimate that about 80% of TSLA's 'future product' value is perceived to be in the Robotaxi segment, as it is the closest to 'production' and the most natural extension of TSLA's current business.</p><p>If you take this estimate at face value, then it means [robotaxis are] likely incredibly consequential for <strong>~65% of TSLA's market cap </strong>or about $500 billion in shareholder value.</p></blockquote><p>This estimate was from October. Since then, TSLA has rallied more than 60% while financial results have largely remained flat, which signals that basically <strong>all of this appreciation</strong> has been due to <strong>investors assigning a higher multiple</strong> to these future product launches.</p><p>For TSLA, we see two main camps within the analyst community. There are those that see the stock as a purely “car” company (and thus, overvalued), and those that see it as an advanced manufacturer of the future, including automated cars, robots, software, energy solutions, and more (which would make it undervalued).</p><p>We sit somewhere in the middle. TSLA is clearly an automotive company right now, but if the company can execute — which they have proven that they can — then there could be significantly more value that gets unlocked for investors in coming years.</p><p>As sentiment around the company shifts, our “middle of the road” understanding gives us a leg up in identifying when things 'extend' too far in one direction or the other, which is precisely what we think we see right now.</p><h2 id=\"id_2739569595\">Tesla's Q4</h2><p>Looking at the most recent quarter, Tesla turned in what most are collectively calling a “stinker.”</p><p>Revenue came in as a massive miss, and the firm's top-line growth also left much to be desired. EPS also came in below expectations, albeit slightly.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/c450991d7c204335d448252a6501dcd8\" alt=\"TSLA\" title=\"TSLA\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"389\"/><span>TSLA</span></p><p></p><p>All in all, it was a pretty dismal showing.</p><p>Of particular note was the company's considerable drop in TTM net income, which is largely due to TSLA's car pricing strategy (cutting) having a continued impact on margins:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/ab5185ab57962b8842cdd2391d696294\" alt=\"TSLA\" title=\"TSLA\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"410\"/><span>TSLA</span></p><p></p><p>These tactical pricing changes are meant to keep TSLA car volumes up, but it has put serious pressure on gross margins over time.</p><p>In other words, <strong>competition</strong> is heating up, materializing, and eating into investor's bottom-line returns:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/2c65e31186dd1af096afe7c1045b3cba\" alt=\"TSLA\" title=\"TSLA\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"302\"/><span>TSLA</span></p><p></p><p>For much of TSLA's run over the last 5 years, many bulls have argued that the company's product was differentiated enough to warrant a higher multiple, on the back of structurally higher margins. However, now, this doesn't appear to be the case.</p><p>Granted, some decline in TTM net income is from the drop-off of a positive Q4 in 2023 which had a huge, unusual tax item, but even adjusted for that, TSLA's <strong>net income is still down double-digit percentages</strong>.</p><p>Trump's cutting of EV incentives only presents further headwinds to the business.</p><p>Similarly, TSLA's profitability would be down <strong>even more</strong> without Bitcoin. As we can see from the 10K, a material percentage of TSLA's $7.1 billion in net income is from an increase in the fair value of the firm's total Bitcoin holdings (emphasis added):</p><blockquote><p>Other income (expense), net, changed favorably by <strong>$523 million</strong> in the year ended December 31, 2024 as compared to the year ended December 31, 2023 primarily due to remeasurement of our bitcoin digital assets to fair value in 2024.</p></blockquote><p>Overall, it's not a pretty picture for the core business.</p><p>Bulls might say that these pricing headwinds are transient, or that the consumer environment is cyclical, but we'd counter by saying <strong>hey, that's the car business</strong>.</p><p>In other words, maybe Tesla <em>isn't</em> that different from competitors when it comes to making and selling cars.</p><h2 id=\"id_3009924548\">The Valuation</h2><p>But what is Tesla worth?</p><p>If you slap on car industry averages to Tesla's financial results, then you're looking at a P/E of ~7x and a P/S of roughly 0.6x:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/816000a0e759e7a6c468d88f42c1758c\" alt=\"TSLA\" title=\"TSLA\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"176\"/><span>TSLA</span></p><p></p><p>This would output a market cap between roughly ~$49 billion and ~$57 billion. Considering the current market cap of <strong><em>$1.28 trillion</em></strong>, the market clearly doesn't agree with this framing.</p><p>Looking now at the earnings call, TSLA management heavily, <strong>heavily</strong> focused on the company's future product lines — mainly Optimus and robotaxis (emphasis added):</p><blockquote><p></p><p>We made many critical investments in 2024 in manufacturing AI and robotics that will bear <strong>immense</strong> fruit in the future, <strong>immense</strong>.</p><p>Like it's, in fact, to such a scale that it is difficult to comprehend. And I've said this before, and I'll stand by it. I see a path, I'm not saying it's an easy path, but I see a path for <strong>Tesla being the most valuable company in the world by far</strong>, not even close.</p><p>Like, maybe several times more than, I mean, there is a path where <strong>Tesla is worth more than the next top five companies combined</strong>. There's a path to that. I mean, I think it's like an incredibly, just like a difficult path, but it is an achievable path.</p><p>So -- and that is overwhelmingly due to <strong>autonomous vehicles</strong> and autonomous <strong>humanoid robots</strong>.</p></blockquote><p>What a sales pitch!</p><p>To us, <strong>this</strong> makes Tesla's <em>story</em> “clear.” For investors, this is clearly where the value is coming from. The core business isn't growing much anymore as the market saturates and competition heats up — fine.</p><p>However, the company's balance sheet is strong, and as long as there's serious potential in TSLA's new businesses, then the stock gets the premium.</p><p>From this point, it's a “show me” story.</p><p>For our money, investors are too optimistic about this future.</p><p>In our previous article, we laid out what an <strong>incredibly</strong> optimistic bull case for what Robotaxis could be worth, assuming that they launched this year:</p><blockquote><p></p><p>In this model, adoption is slow to start, but quickly scales as users join the network and make their idle Teslas earn while they sleep.</p><p>Again, the demand is the real constraint here, but given the likely lower cost of automated ride hail, it should prove popular with cost-conscious consumers:</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b20aed07e35218fcce1a3d01c41ccfb0\" alt=\"TSLA\" title=\"TSLA\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"199\"/><span>TSLA</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>PropNotes</strong></p><p>In this scenario, we see TSLA earning more per ride, and with a larger network of supply and demand under their control.</p><p>This scenario would represent a 60% upside for the NPV of the robotaxi segment (at a 4% discount rate), which works out to roughly 37% upside for TSLA's stock.</p><p>This works out to a share price of roughly <strong>$345 per share</strong>.</p></blockquote><p>Under this optimistic scenario, robotaxis launch immediately and gain market share quickly. In that case, we'd argue Tesla is maybe worth $345 per share. Currently, the stock is trading at around $400, and robotaxis aren't expected until June, in a single city (Austin).</p><p>To us, this shows undue optimism, part of which may be caused by statements like this from management around the new product lines (emphasis added):</p><blockquote><p></p><p>I've -- some of these things I've said for quite a long time and I know people said, well, Elon is the boy who cried wolf-like several times but I'm telling you there's a damn wolf this time and you can drive it. In fact, it can drive you. <strong>It's a self-driving wolf</strong>.</p><p>These things that already exist with no incremental cost change, just a software update, now have five times or more utility than they currently have. I think this will be the <strong>largest asset value increase in human history</strong>. Maybe there's something bigger, but I just don't know what it is. And so people who look in the rearview mirror are looking for past precedent, except I don't think there is one.</p><p>I think long-term, Optimus will be -- Optimus has the potential to be north of <strong><em>$10 trillion in revenue</em></strong>. Like, it's really bananas.</p></blockquote><p>All told, we don't expect that within a few years' time, TSLA will be raking in 1/10th of global GDP in revenues on a single product alone.</p><h2 id=\"id_3741566877\">Summary</h2><p>Thus, we come to our summary of Tesla.</p><p>At this price, there's potentially significant value in the company's future projects, as the market has shown, but at present, the valuation of those projects appears too speculative.</p><p>Overall, this mispricing means that investors should consider selling out of their stakes and waiting to buy lower. If the past is anything to go by, you'll get your chance to do just that.</p><p>Cheers!</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1728464409321","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla: Once Again, It's Time To Trim</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla: Once Again, It's Time To Trim\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2025-02-02 14:05 GMT+8 <a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4753962-tesla-once-again-time-to-trim-double-rating-downgrade><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryWe initially rated Tesla, Inc. stock a Sell in November 2023 due to slowing growth and a lofty valuation. From there, the stock fell 31%.Then, we upgraded Tesla in April 2024 after the market ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4753962-tesla-once-again-time-to-trim-double-rating-downgrade\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4753962-tesla-once-again-time-to-trim-double-rating-downgrade","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1175504218","content_text":"SummaryWe initially rated Tesla, Inc. stock a Sell in November 2023 due to slowing growth and a lofty valuation. From there, the stock fell 31%.Then, we upgraded Tesla in April 2024 after the market appeared too negative on shares. Since, the stock has risen 126%, driven by speculation around Robotaxis and autonomous driving.Now, Tesla appears overvalued again. We recommend trimming TSLA from your portfolio due to overly optimistic projections around “future products”.We're downgrading TSLA to a Sell.White cyborg robotic hand pointing his finger - 3D rendering isolated on free PNG background.Of all the stocks we've covered here on Seeking Alpha, we're particularly proud of our track record when it comes to Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA).Our coverage began on the stock in November 2023, when we called the stock a Sell based on the company's slowing growth and lack of progress on key initiatives. At the time, the multiple seemed a bit rich for the company's output, so we came out as bears:Tesla: The Range Of Outcomes Is Narrowing; That's A Bad Thing.From that point, the stock fell roughly 31%, until we upgraded it on April 9th, 2024.At that point, shares seemed unduly beat up, in our view, and we upgraded TSLA:Tesla: When The Time Comes To Buy, You Won't Want To (Rating Upgrade).Since then, the stock is back up roughly 126%, in which time we put out another bullish article about Robotaxis, arguing that speculation around future gains in autonomous driving and Optimus could drive continued appreciation for investors:TSLAAll of this is to say that we feel like we have a “good bead” on the company's valuation and business dynamics.From that frame, we feel that the stock has once again become 'too expensive', and it appears as though it could be time, once again, to trim.Today, we'll cover the recent earnings report, examine the stock's lofty valuation, and explain why, on balance, we think it's time to begin pruning TSLA out of your portfolio — at least for now.Sound good? Let's dive in.Our Tesla FrameworkIn case you missed our earlier articles on TSLA, here's a quick summary of how we see the stock. Normally, we'd skip writing a section like this, but TSLA is a very volatile, speculative bet, and many investors look at the financials and see entirely different things. Thus, we think it's necessary, first, to establish how we think about the company.In short, we see TSLA as an advanced manufacturing firm, mostly producing cars. Sure, TSLA also manufactures batteries and other components in its Energy segment, but at its heart, the firm is an automotive company.Why? Because this is where most of TSLA's financial results are derived. A massive chunk of the company's revenues come from the automotive segment, which means that this is a natural point of comparison for analysts:TSLAThus, when contrasted with competitors, Tesla's $1.3 trillion valuation can be very challenging to comprehend.In our view, this valuation difference vs. peers is largely down to TSLA's “upcoming” product launches, mainly full self-drive (“FSD”) & Robotaxis, and Optimus (the robot):A significant portion of Tesla's current value is tied to higher margin, non-automotive, ['future'] products like Robotaxi, Dojo, and Optimus.We'd estimate that about 80% of TSLA's 'future product' value is perceived to be in the Robotaxi segment, as it is the closest to 'production' and the most natural extension of TSLA's current business.If you take this estimate at face value, then it means [robotaxis are] likely incredibly consequential for ~65% of TSLA's market cap or about $500 billion in shareholder value.This estimate was from October. Since then, TSLA has rallied more than 60% while financial results have largely remained flat, which signals that basically all of this appreciation has been due to investors assigning a higher multiple to these future product launches.For TSLA, we see two main camps within the analyst community. There are those that see the stock as a purely “car” company (and thus, overvalued), and those that see it as an advanced manufacturer of the future, including automated cars, robots, software, energy solutions, and more (which would make it undervalued).We sit somewhere in the middle. TSLA is clearly an automotive company right now, but if the company can execute — which they have proven that they can — then there could be significantly more value that gets unlocked for investors in coming years.As sentiment around the company shifts, our “middle of the road” understanding gives us a leg up in identifying when things 'extend' too far in one direction or the other, which is precisely what we think we see right now.Tesla's Q4Looking at the most recent quarter, Tesla turned in what most are collectively calling a “stinker.”Revenue came in as a massive miss, and the firm's top-line growth also left much to be desired. EPS also came in below expectations, albeit slightly.TSLAAll in all, it was a pretty dismal showing.Of particular note was the company's considerable drop in TTM net income, which is largely due to TSLA's car pricing strategy (cutting) having a continued impact on margins:TSLAThese tactical pricing changes are meant to keep TSLA car volumes up, but it has put serious pressure on gross margins over time.In other words, competition is heating up, materializing, and eating into investor's bottom-line returns:TSLAFor much of TSLA's run over the last 5 years, many bulls have argued that the company's product was differentiated enough to warrant a higher multiple, on the back of structurally higher margins. However, now, this doesn't appear to be the case.Granted, some decline in TTM net income is from the drop-off of a positive Q4 in 2023 which had a huge, unusual tax item, but even adjusted for that, TSLA's net income is still down double-digit percentages.Trump's cutting of EV incentives only presents further headwinds to the business.Similarly, TSLA's profitability would be down even more without Bitcoin. As we can see from the 10K, a material percentage of TSLA's $7.1 billion in net income is from an increase in the fair value of the firm's total Bitcoin holdings (emphasis added):Other income (expense), net, changed favorably by $523 million in the year ended December 31, 2024 as compared to the year ended December 31, 2023 primarily due to remeasurement of our bitcoin digital assets to fair value in 2024.Overall, it's not a pretty picture for the core business.Bulls might say that these pricing headwinds are transient, or that the consumer environment is cyclical, but we'd counter by saying hey, that's the car business.In other words, maybe Tesla isn't that different from competitors when it comes to making and selling cars.The ValuationBut what is Tesla worth?If you slap on car industry averages to Tesla's financial results, then you're looking at a P/E of ~7x and a P/S of roughly 0.6x:TSLAThis would output a market cap between roughly ~$49 billion and ~$57 billion. Considering the current market cap of $1.28 trillion, the market clearly doesn't agree with this framing.Looking now at the earnings call, TSLA management heavily, heavily focused on the company's future product lines — mainly Optimus and robotaxis (emphasis added):We made many critical investments in 2024 in manufacturing AI and robotics that will bear immense fruit in the future, immense.Like it's, in fact, to such a scale that it is difficult to comprehend. And I've said this before, and I'll stand by it. I see a path, I'm not saying it's an easy path, but I see a path for Tesla being the most valuable company in the world by far, not even close.Like, maybe several times more than, I mean, there is a path where Tesla is worth more than the next top five companies combined. There's a path to that. I mean, I think it's like an incredibly, just like a difficult path, but it is an achievable path.So -- and that is overwhelmingly due to autonomous vehicles and autonomous humanoid robots.What a sales pitch!To us, this makes Tesla's story “clear.” For investors, this is clearly where the value is coming from. The core business isn't growing much anymore as the market saturates and competition heats up — fine.However, the company's balance sheet is strong, and as long as there's serious potential in TSLA's new businesses, then the stock gets the premium.From this point, it's a “show me” story.For our money, investors are too optimistic about this future.In our previous article, we laid out what an incredibly optimistic bull case for what Robotaxis could be worth, assuming that they launched this year:In this model, adoption is slow to start, but quickly scales as users join the network and make their idle Teslas earn while they sleep.Again, the demand is the real constraint here, but given the likely lower cost of automated ride hail, it should prove popular with cost-conscious consumers:TSLAPropNotesIn this scenario, we see TSLA earning more per ride, and with a larger network of supply and demand under their control.This scenario would represent a 60% upside for the NPV of the robotaxi segment (at a 4% discount rate), which works out to roughly 37% upside for TSLA's stock.This works out to a share price of roughly $345 per share.Under this optimistic scenario, robotaxis launch immediately and gain market share quickly. In that case, we'd argue Tesla is maybe worth $345 per share. Currently, the stock is trading at around $400, and robotaxis aren't expected until June, in a single city (Austin).To us, this shows undue optimism, part of which may be caused by statements like this from management around the new product lines (emphasis added):I've -- some of these things I've said for quite a long time and I know people said, well, Elon is the boy who cried wolf-like several times but I'm telling you there's a damn wolf this time and you can drive it. In fact, it can drive you. It's a self-driving wolf.These things that already exist with no incremental cost change, just a software update, now have five times or more utility than they currently have. I think this will be the largest asset value increase in human history. Maybe there's something bigger, but I just don't know what it is. And so people who look in the rearview mirror are looking for past precedent, except I don't think there is one.I think long-term, Optimus will be -- Optimus has the potential to be north of $10 trillion in revenue. Like, it's really bananas.All told, we don't expect that within a few years' time, TSLA will be raking in 1/10th of global GDP in revenues on a single product alone.SummaryThus, we come to our summary of Tesla.At this price, there's potentially significant value in the company's future projects, as the market has shown, but at present, the valuation of those projects appears too speculative.Overall, this mispricing means that investors should consider selling out of their stakes and waiting to buy lower. 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overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nElon Musk Confirms Tesla Robotaxi Delay, Says Front Design Change\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2024-07-16 09:19 GMT+8 <a href=https://electrek.co/2024/07/15/elon-musk-confirms-tesla-robotaxi-delay-front-design-change/><strong>Electrek</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Elon Musk has confirmed that Tesla is delaying the unveiling of its Robotaxi and adds that he requested a front design change.Last week, Bloomberg reported that Tesla is delaying the unveiling of the ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://electrek.co/2024/07/15/elon-musk-confirms-tesla-robotaxi-delay-front-design-change/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"LU0820562030.AUD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMH2\" (AUDHDG) H2 INC","BK4592":"伊斯兰概念","LU2063271972.USD":"富兰克林创新领域基金","SG9999015945.SGD":"LionGlobal Disruptive Innovation Fund A SGD","LU0053666078.USD":"摩根大通基金-美国股票A(离岸)美元","LU2326559502.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity P/A SGD-H","LU2602419157.SGD":"HSBC ISLAMIC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"AC\" (SGD) ACC","LU1551013425.SGD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS H2-SGD","LU0082616367.USD":"摩根大通美国科技A(dist)","LU0689472784.USD":"安联收益及增长基金Cl AM AT Acc","BK4588":"碎股","TSLL":"2倍做多TSLA ETF-Direxion","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","LU2756315318.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG\" (SGDHDG) INC A","LU0348723411.USD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL HI-TECH GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC","LU1720051108.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","BK4574":"无人驾驶","LU1720051017.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence AT Acc H2-SGD","LU2249611893.SGD":"BNP PARIBAS ENERGY TRANSITION \"CRH\" (SGD) ACC","LU1914381329.SGD":"Allianz Best Styles Global Equity Cl ET Acc H2-SGD","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU0820561909.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AM\" (HKD) INC","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" ACC","LU2357305700.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence ET H2-SGD","SG9999015952.SGD":"LIONGLOBAL DISRUPTIVE INNOVATION \"I\" (SGD) ACC","LU2087621335.USD":"ALLSPRING GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU1429558221.USD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA USD","LU1548497426.USD":"安联环球人工智能AT Acc","LU1839511570.USD":"WELLS FARGO GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"I\" (USD) ACC","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","BK4581":"高盛持仓","LU0820561818.USD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金Cl AM DIS","LU2756315664.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMI\" (SGDHDG) INC","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","LU1435385759.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA SGD-H","TSLA":"特斯拉","BK4527":"明星科技股","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","BK4511":"特斯拉概念","LU0823414478.USD":"法巴经典能源转换基金","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","LU0466842654.USD":"HSBC ISLAMIC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0097036916.USD":"贝莱德美国增长A2 USD","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC","BK4555":"新能源车"},"source_url":"https://electrek.co/2024/07/15/elon-musk-confirms-tesla-robotaxi-delay-front-design-change/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2451794106","content_text":"Elon Musk has confirmed that Tesla is delaying the unveiling of its Robotaxi and adds that he requested a front design change.Last week, Bloomberg reported that Tesla is delaying the unveiling of the Robotaxi, which was planned for August 8th, to October. The report claimed that the delay was to give Tesla more time to build more prototypes.Tesla CEO Elon Musk has now confirmed that the unveiling has been delayed, without confirming the new timeline.The CEO added that he requested “an important design change to the front”:Requested what I think is an important design change to the front, and extra time allows us to show off a few other things.For the last few years, Tesla has been working on a vehicle designed from the ground up to be a self-driving vehicle. The company has been referring to it as ‘Robotaxi’.CEO Elon Musk insists that Tesla is still dedicated to delivering its promised self-driving capability to existing vehicles delivered since 2016 through software update, but it also decided to build a new vehicle designed entirely around the fact that it will be driverless.Not much is known about the vehicle other than hints that it won’t have a steering wheel or pedals, and that it will be “Cybertruck-like” in terms of design. We might have also seen a glimpse of the interior in a video that Tesla released.In April, Musk said that Tesla would unveil the vehicle on August 8th.Now, it sounds like the unveiling is going to be closer to the end of the year.Electrek’s TakeIn my opinion, the only thing that Tesla could unveil or announce at the Robotaxi unveiling that would have any impact would be deals to actually use the Robotaxi in geo-fenced areas, like a deal with the city of Austin, for example.Anything else seems either unlikely or unimpactful.Why should we care about a vehicle designed for self-driving if Tesla has yet to solve self-driving on vehicles built since 2016 that were promised to become self-driving?","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"TSLL":1,"TSLA":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1640,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":327756504350792,"gmtCreate":1721050697326,"gmtModify":1721050711922,"author":{"id":"3574213079513866","authorId":"3574213079513866","name":"NatMeg","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/425463aa7de7f81def2d836be3ff01e3","crmLevel":13,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3574213079513866","idStr":"3574213079513866"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Are u sure?","listText":"Are u sure?","text":"Are u sure?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/327756504350792","repostId":"1183929996","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1183929996","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1721053800,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1183929996?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-07-15 22:30","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock Jumps 6% As Elon Musk Says He “Fully” Endorses Trump After Trump Attack","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1183929996","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"Elon Musk posted on X that he \"fully\" endorses Donald Trump moments after the former president and presumptive Republican nominee was rushed off stage by secret service members following gunshots at a","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Elon Musk posted on X that he "fully" endorses Donald Trump moments after the former president and presumptive Republican nominee was rushed off stage by secret service members following gunshots at a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">"I fully endorse President Trump and hope for his rapid recovery," Musk wrote on X, which he owns.</p><p>Tesla shares jumped 6% in morning trading Monday. investors also prepared for the electric vehicle maker's Q2 earnings report and waited for word if the August 8 robotaxi event is being postponed.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/91dc9b84481210cca10e6424fb254c43\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"877\" tg-height=\"628\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Trump was taken to a local medical facility, where he is receiving care. His spokesman said the former president "will be fine." Trump had what appeared to be blood on the side of his head and his ear.</p><p>In a separate post, Musk, the CEO of Tesla and defense contractor SpaceX, shared a photo showing Trump pumping his fist into the air with the American flag behind him and with secret service members scrambling to protect him. Musk also compared Trump to Theodore Roosevelt, who survived an assassination attempt while campaigning for president in 1912.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">One spectator from the rally is dead, and a second is in serious condition, according to the district attorney in Butler County, where the rally took place. The shooter is dead, NBC News confirms.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">While Musk hadn't directly endorsed Trump prior to Saturday's event, he had made clear that he was opposing President Joe Biden's return to the White House. He claimed in a post in March that he was not going to donate money to either candidate for president.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk met with Trump earlier this year at his Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach and said at Tesla's 2024 annual shareholder meeting that he has "had some conversations" with Trump. Musk also said at that event that Trump "does call me out of the blue for no reason."</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">On Friday, Bloomberg reported that Musk has donated a "sizable" but undisclosed amount to a pro-Trump super PAC called America PAC.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk is the wealthiest person in the world, with an estimated net worth of about $250 billion, according to Forbes.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock Jumps 6% As Elon Musk Says He “Fully” Endorses Trump After Trump Attack</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock Jumps 6% As Elon Musk Says He “Fully” Endorses Trump After Trump Attack\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-07-15 22:30</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>Elon Musk posted on X that he "fully" endorses Donald Trump moments after the former president and presumptive Republican nominee was rushed off stage by secret service members following gunshots at a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">"I fully endorse President Trump and hope for his rapid recovery," Musk wrote on X, which he owns.</p><p>Tesla shares jumped 6% in morning trading Monday. investors also prepared for the electric vehicle maker's Q2 earnings report and waited for word if the August 8 robotaxi event is being postponed.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/91dc9b84481210cca10e6424fb254c43\" title=\"\" tg-width=\"877\" tg-height=\"628\"/></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Trump was taken to a local medical facility, where he is receiving care. His spokesman said the former president "will be fine." Trump had what appeared to be blood on the side of his head and his ear.</p><p>In a separate post, Musk, the CEO of Tesla and defense contractor SpaceX, shared a photo showing Trump pumping his fist into the air with the American flag behind him and with secret service members scrambling to protect him. Musk also compared Trump to Theodore Roosevelt, who survived an assassination attempt while campaigning for president in 1912.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">One spectator from the rally is dead, and a second is in serious condition, according to the district attorney in Butler County, where the rally took place. The shooter is dead, NBC News confirms.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">While Musk hadn't directly endorsed Trump prior to Saturday's event, he had made clear that he was opposing President Joe Biden's return to the White House. He claimed in a post in March that he was not going to donate money to either candidate for president.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk met with Trump earlier this year at his Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach and said at Tesla's 2024 annual shareholder meeting that he has "had some conversations" with Trump. Musk also said at that event that Trump "does call me out of the blue for no reason."</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">On Friday, Bloomberg reported that Musk has donated a "sizable" but undisclosed amount to a pro-Trump super PAC called America PAC.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Musk is the wealthiest person in the world, with an estimated net worth of about $250 billion, according to Forbes.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","TSLL":"2倍做多TSLA ETF-Direxion"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1183929996","content_text":"Elon Musk posted on X that he \"fully\" endorses Donald Trump moments after the former president and presumptive Republican nominee was rushed off stage by secret service members following gunshots at a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday.\"I fully endorse President Trump and hope for his rapid recovery,\" Musk wrote on X, which he owns.Tesla shares jumped 6% in morning trading Monday. investors also prepared for the electric vehicle maker's Q2 earnings report and waited for word if the August 8 robotaxi event is being postponed.Trump was taken to a local medical facility, where he is receiving care. His spokesman said the former president \"will be fine.\" Trump had what appeared to be blood on the side of his head and his ear.In a separate post, Musk, the CEO of Tesla and defense contractor SpaceX, shared a photo showing Trump pumping his fist into the air with the American flag behind him and with secret service members scrambling to protect him. Musk also compared Trump to Theodore Roosevelt, who survived an assassination attempt while campaigning for president in 1912.One spectator from the rally is dead, and a second is in serious condition, according to the district attorney in Butler County, where the rally took place. The shooter is dead, NBC News confirms.While Musk hadn't directly endorsed Trump prior to Saturday's event, he had made clear that he was opposing President Joe Biden's return to the White House. 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Musk also said at that event that Trump \"does call me out of the blue for no reason.\"On Friday, Bloomberg reported that Musk has donated a \"sizable\" but undisclosed amount to a pro-Trump super PAC called America PAC.Musk is the wealthiest person in the world, with an estimated net worth of about $250 billion, according to Forbes.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"TSLA":1.1,"TSLL":1.1}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2477,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":314906749337896,"gmtCreate":1717912870483,"gmtModify":1717912874182,"author":{"id":"3574213079513866","authorId":"3574213079513866","name":"NatMeg","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/425463aa7de7f81def2d836be3ff01e3","crmLevel":13,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3574213079513866","idStr":"3574213079513866"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Reuters is a waste of time ","listText":"Reuters is a waste of time ","text":"Reuters is a waste of time","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/314906749337896","repostId":"2442838202","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2015,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":306154926215280,"gmtCreate":1715780017054,"gmtModify":1715782071266,"author":{"id":"3574213079513866","authorId":"3574213079513866","name":"NatMeg","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/425463aa7de7f81def2d836be3ff01e3","crmLevel":13,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3574213079513866","idStr":"3574213079513866"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"What stupid article is this?","listText":"What stupid article is this?","text":"What stupid article is this?","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/306154926215280","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2440,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":303782731305272,"gmtCreate":1715186054649,"gmtModify":1715186058185,"author":{"id":"3574213079513866","authorId":"3574213079513866","name":"NatMeg","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/425463aa7de7f81def2d836be3ff01e3","crmLevel":13,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3574213079513866","idStr":"3574213079513866"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Hit piece. Delay tactics by enemies of Elon.","listText":"Hit piece. Delay tactics by enemies of Elon.","text":"Hit piece. Delay tactics by enemies of Elon.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/303782731305272","repostId":"1175242990","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1175242990","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Reuters.com brings you the latest news from around the world, covering breaking news in markets, business, politics, entertainment and technology","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Reuters","id":"1036604489","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868"},"pubTimestamp":1715175605,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1175242990?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-05-08 21:40","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Falls 3% After Report US Autopilot Probe to Focus on Securities, Wire Fraud","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1175242990","media":"Reuters","summary":"(Reuters) - U.S. prosecutors are examining whether Tesla committed securities or wire fraud by misleading investors and consumers about its electric vehicles’ self-driving capabilities, three people f","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>(Reuters) - U.S. prosecutors are examining whether Tesla committed securities or wire fraud by misleading investors and consumers about its electric vehicles’ self-driving capabilities, three people familiar with the matter told Reuters.</p><p>Tesla stock fell over 3% in morning trading.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f18fdcbbf0ab46f884c8fab1dc15a376\" tg-width=\"787\" tg-height=\"624\"/></p><p>Tesla’s Autopilot and Full Self-Driving systems assist with steering, braking and lane changes - but are not fully autonomous. While Tesla has warned drivers to stay ready to take over driving, the Justice Department is examining other statements by Tesla and Chief Executive Elon Musk suggesting its cars can drive themselves.</p><p>U.S. regulators have separately investigated hundreds of crashes, including fatal ones, that have occurred in Teslas with Autopilot engaged, resulting in a mass recall by the automaker.</p><p>Reuters exclusively reported the U.S. criminal investigation into Tesla in October 2022, and is now the first to report the specific criminal liability federal prosecutors are examining.</p><p>Investigators are exploring whether Tesla committed wire fraud, which involves deception in interstate communications, by misleading consumers about its driver-assistance systems, the sources said. They are also examining whether Tesla committed securities fraud by deceiving investors, two of the sources said.</p><p>The Securities and Exchange Commission is also investigating Tesla’s representations about driver-assistance systems to investors, one of the people said. The SEC declined to comment.</p><p>Tesla did not respond to a request for comment. Last October, it disclosed in a filing that the Justice Department had asked the company for information about Autopilot and Full Self-Driving.</p><p>The Justice Department declined to comment.</p><p>The probe, which is not evidence of wrongdoing, could result in criminal charges, civil sanctions, or no action. Prosecutors are far from deciding how to proceed, one of the sources said, in part because they are sifting through voluminous documents Tesla provided in response to subpoenas.</p><p>Reuters could not determine the specific statements prosecutors are reviewing as potentially illegal. Musk has aggressively touted the prowess of Tesla’s driver-assistance technology for nearly a decade.</p><p>Tesla videos demonstrating the technology that remain <u>archived, opens new tab</u> on its <u>website, opens new tab</u> say: “The person in the driver’s seat is only there for legal reasons. He is not doing anything. The car is driving itself.”</p><p>A Tesla <u>engineer testified</u> in 2022 in a lawsuit over a fatal crash involving Autopilot that one of the videos, posted in October 2016, intended to show the technology’s potential and did not accurately portray its capabilities at the time. Musk nevertheless posted the video on social media, writing: “Tesla drives itself (no human input at all) thru urban streets to highway streets, then finds a parking spot.”</p><p>In a conference call with reporters in 2016, Musk described Autopilot as “probably better” than a human driver. During an October 2022 call, Musk addressed a forthcoming FSD upgrade he said would allow customers to travel “to your work, your friend’s house, to the grocery store without you touching the wheel.”</p><p>Musk is increasingly focused on self-driving technology as Tesla's car sales and profit slump. Tesla recently <u>slashed costs through mass layoffs</u> and shelved plans for a long-awaited $25,000 model that had been expected to drive sales growth.</p><p>“Going balls to the wall for autonomy is a blindingly obvious move,” the billionaire executive posted on his social-media platform X in mid-April. Tesla shares, down more than 28% so far this year, surged in late April when Musk visited China and made progress toward approvals to sell FSD there.</p><p>Musk has repeatedly promised self-driving Teslas for about a decade. "Mere failure to realize a long-term, aspirational goal is not fraud," Tesla lawyers said in a 2022 court filing.</p><h2 id=\"id_1016071554\" style=\"text-align: start;\">LEGAL CHALLENGES</h2><p>Prosecutors scrutinizing Tesla’s autonomous-car claims are proceeding with caution, recognizing the legal hurdles they face, the people familiar with the inquiry said.</p><p>They will need to demonstrate that Tesla’s claims crossed a line from legal salesmanship to material and knowingly false statements that unlawfully harmed consumers or investors, three legal experts uninvolved in the probe told Reuters.</p><p>U.S. courts previously have ruled that “puffery” or “corporate optimism” regarding product claims do not amount to fraud. In 2008, a federal appeals court ruled that statements of corporate optimism alone do not demonstrate that a company official intentionally misled investors.</p><p>Justice Department officials will likely seek internal Tesla communications as evidence that Musk or others knew they were making false statements, said Daniel Richman, a Columbia Law School professor and former federal prosecutor. That is a challenge, Richman said, but the safety risk involved in overselling self-driving systems also “speaks to the seriousness with which prosecutors, a judge and jury would take the statements.”</p><p>FATAL CRASHES</p><p>Tesla’s claims about Autopilot and FSD have also drawn scrutiny in regulatory investigations and lawsuits.</p><p>Safety regulators and courts have raised concerns in recent months that corporate messaging about the technology - including the brand names Autopilot and Full Self-Driving - have imbued customers with a false sense of security.</p><p>In April, the Washington State Patrol arrested a man on suspicion of vehicular homicide after his Tesla, with Autopilot engaged, struck and killed a motorcyclist while the driver looked at his phone, police records show. In a probable-cause statement, a trooper cited the driver’s “admitted inattention to driving, while on autopilot mode ... putting trust in the machine to drive for him.”</p><p>In Washington state, a driver remains "responsible for the safe and legal operation of that vehicle" regardless of its technological capabilities, a state patrol spokesperson told Reuters.</p><p>The same month, the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration launched an investigation into whether a Tesla recall of more than 2 million vehicles in December adequately addressed safety issues with Autopilot.</p><p>NHTSA declined to comment.</p><p>The recall followed a long-running probe opened by regulators after cars with Autopilot engaged repeatedly crashed into vehicles at first-responder emergency scenes. Regulators subsequently examined hundreds of crashes where Autopilot was engaged and identified 14 deaths and 54 injuries.</p><p>Tesla disputed NHTSA's findings but agreed to the recall, which employed over-the-air software updates intended to alert inattentive drivers.</p><p>The NHTSA investigation found “a critical safety gap between drivers’ expectations” of Tesla’s technology “and the system’s true capabilities,” according to agency records. “This gap led to foreseeable misuse and avoidable crashes.”</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Falls 3% After Report US Autopilot Probe to Focus on Securities, Wire Fraud</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Falls 3% After Report US Autopilot Probe to Focus on Securities, Wire Fraud\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1036604489\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Reuters </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-05-08 21:40</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>(Reuters) - U.S. prosecutors are examining whether Tesla committed securities or wire fraud by misleading investors and consumers about its electric vehicles’ self-driving capabilities, three people familiar with the matter told Reuters.</p><p>Tesla stock fell over 3% in morning trading.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f18fdcbbf0ab46f884c8fab1dc15a376\" tg-width=\"787\" tg-height=\"624\"/></p><p>Tesla’s Autopilot and Full Self-Driving systems assist with steering, braking and lane changes - but are not fully autonomous. While Tesla has warned drivers to stay ready to take over driving, the Justice Department is examining other statements by Tesla and Chief Executive Elon Musk suggesting its cars can drive themselves.</p><p>U.S. regulators have separately investigated hundreds of crashes, including fatal ones, that have occurred in Teslas with Autopilot engaged, resulting in a mass recall by the automaker.</p><p>Reuters exclusively reported the U.S. criminal investigation into Tesla in October 2022, and is now the first to report the specific criminal liability federal prosecutors are examining.</p><p>Investigators are exploring whether Tesla committed wire fraud, which involves deception in interstate communications, by misleading consumers about its driver-assistance systems, the sources said. They are also examining whether Tesla committed securities fraud by deceiving investors, two of the sources said.</p><p>The Securities and Exchange Commission is also investigating Tesla’s representations about driver-assistance systems to investors, one of the people said. The SEC declined to comment.</p><p>Tesla did not respond to a request for comment. Last October, it disclosed in a filing that the Justice Department had asked the company for information about Autopilot and Full Self-Driving.</p><p>The Justice Department declined to comment.</p><p>The probe, which is not evidence of wrongdoing, could result in criminal charges, civil sanctions, or no action. Prosecutors are far from deciding how to proceed, one of the sources said, in part because they are sifting through voluminous documents Tesla provided in response to subpoenas.</p><p>Reuters could not determine the specific statements prosecutors are reviewing as potentially illegal. Musk has aggressively touted the prowess of Tesla’s driver-assistance technology for nearly a decade.</p><p>Tesla videos demonstrating the technology that remain <u>archived, opens new tab</u> on its <u>website, opens new tab</u> say: “The person in the driver’s seat is only there for legal reasons. He is not doing anything. The car is driving itself.”</p><p>A Tesla <u>engineer testified</u> in 2022 in a lawsuit over a fatal crash involving Autopilot that one of the videos, posted in October 2016, intended to show the technology’s potential and did not accurately portray its capabilities at the time. Musk nevertheless posted the video on social media, writing: “Tesla drives itself (no human input at all) thru urban streets to highway streets, then finds a parking spot.”</p><p>In a conference call with reporters in 2016, Musk described Autopilot as “probably better” than a human driver. During an October 2022 call, Musk addressed a forthcoming FSD upgrade he said would allow customers to travel “to your work, your friend’s house, to the grocery store without you touching the wheel.”</p><p>Musk is increasingly focused on self-driving technology as Tesla's car sales and profit slump. Tesla recently <u>slashed costs through mass layoffs</u> and shelved plans for a long-awaited $25,000 model that had been expected to drive sales growth.</p><p>“Going balls to the wall for autonomy is a blindingly obvious move,” the billionaire executive posted on his social-media platform X in mid-April. Tesla shares, down more than 28% so far this year, surged in late April when Musk visited China and made progress toward approvals to sell FSD there.</p><p>Musk has repeatedly promised self-driving Teslas for about a decade. "Mere failure to realize a long-term, aspirational goal is not fraud," Tesla lawyers said in a 2022 court filing.</p><h2 id=\"id_1016071554\" style=\"text-align: start;\">LEGAL CHALLENGES</h2><p>Prosecutors scrutinizing Tesla’s autonomous-car claims are proceeding with caution, recognizing the legal hurdles they face, the people familiar with the inquiry said.</p><p>They will need to demonstrate that Tesla’s claims crossed a line from legal salesmanship to material and knowingly false statements that unlawfully harmed consumers or investors, three legal experts uninvolved in the probe told Reuters.</p><p>U.S. courts previously have ruled that “puffery” or “corporate optimism” regarding product claims do not amount to fraud. In 2008, a federal appeals court ruled that statements of corporate optimism alone do not demonstrate that a company official intentionally misled investors.</p><p>Justice Department officials will likely seek internal Tesla communications as evidence that Musk or others knew they were making false statements, said Daniel Richman, a Columbia Law School professor and former federal prosecutor. That is a challenge, Richman said, but the safety risk involved in overselling self-driving systems also “speaks to the seriousness with which prosecutors, a judge and jury would take the statements.”</p><p>FATAL CRASHES</p><p>Tesla’s claims about Autopilot and FSD have also drawn scrutiny in regulatory investigations and lawsuits.</p><p>Safety regulators and courts have raised concerns in recent months that corporate messaging about the technology - including the brand names Autopilot and Full Self-Driving - have imbued customers with a false sense of security.</p><p>In April, the Washington State Patrol arrested a man on suspicion of vehicular homicide after his Tesla, with Autopilot engaged, struck and killed a motorcyclist while the driver looked at his phone, police records show. In a probable-cause statement, a trooper cited the driver’s “admitted inattention to driving, while on autopilot mode ... putting trust in the machine to drive for him.”</p><p>In Washington state, a driver remains "responsible for the safe and legal operation of that vehicle" regardless of its technological capabilities, a state patrol spokesperson told Reuters.</p><p>The same month, the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration launched an investigation into whether a Tesla recall of more than 2 million vehicles in December adequately addressed safety issues with Autopilot.</p><p>NHTSA declined to comment.</p><p>The recall followed a long-running probe opened by regulators after cars with Autopilot engaged repeatedly crashed into vehicles at first-responder emergency scenes. Regulators subsequently examined hundreds of crashes where Autopilot was engaged and identified 14 deaths and 54 injuries.</p><p>Tesla disputed NHTSA's findings but agreed to the recall, which employed over-the-air software updates intended to alert inattentive drivers.</p><p>The NHTSA investigation found “a critical safety gap between drivers’ expectations” of Tesla’s technology “and the system’s true capabilities,” according to agency records. “This gap led to foreseeable misuse and avoidable crashes.”</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1175242990","content_text":"(Reuters) - U.S. prosecutors are examining whether Tesla committed securities or wire fraud by misleading investors and consumers about its electric vehicles’ self-driving capabilities, three people familiar with the matter told Reuters.Tesla stock fell over 3% in morning trading.Tesla’s Autopilot and Full Self-Driving systems assist with steering, braking and lane changes - but are not fully autonomous. While Tesla has warned drivers to stay ready to take over driving, the Justice Department is examining other statements by Tesla and Chief Executive Elon Musk suggesting its cars can drive themselves.U.S. regulators have separately investigated hundreds of crashes, including fatal ones, that have occurred in Teslas with Autopilot engaged, resulting in a mass recall by the automaker.Reuters exclusively reported the U.S. criminal investigation into Tesla in October 2022, and is now the first to report the specific criminal liability federal prosecutors are examining.Investigators are exploring whether Tesla committed wire fraud, which involves deception in interstate communications, by misleading consumers about its driver-assistance systems, the sources said. They are also examining whether Tesla committed securities fraud by deceiving investors, two of the sources said.The Securities and Exchange Commission is also investigating Tesla’s representations about driver-assistance systems to investors, one of the people said. The SEC declined to comment.Tesla did not respond to a request for comment. Last October, it disclosed in a filing that the Justice Department had asked the company for information about Autopilot and Full Self-Driving.The Justice Department declined to comment.The probe, which is not evidence of wrongdoing, could result in criminal charges, civil sanctions, or no action. Prosecutors are far from deciding how to proceed, one of the sources said, in part because they are sifting through voluminous documents Tesla provided in response to subpoenas.Reuters could not determine the specific statements prosecutors are reviewing as potentially illegal. Musk has aggressively touted the prowess of Tesla’s driver-assistance technology for nearly a decade.Tesla videos demonstrating the technology that remain archived, opens new tab on its website, opens new tab say: “The person in the driver’s seat is only there for legal reasons. He is not doing anything. The car is driving itself.”A Tesla engineer testified in 2022 in a lawsuit over a fatal crash involving Autopilot that one of the videos, posted in October 2016, intended to show the technology’s potential and did not accurately portray its capabilities at the time. Musk nevertheless posted the video on social media, writing: “Tesla drives itself (no human input at all) thru urban streets to highway streets, then finds a parking spot.”In a conference call with reporters in 2016, Musk described Autopilot as “probably better” than a human driver. During an October 2022 call, Musk addressed a forthcoming FSD upgrade he said would allow customers to travel “to your work, your friend’s house, to the grocery store without you touching the wheel.”Musk is increasingly focused on self-driving technology as Tesla's car sales and profit slump. Tesla recently slashed costs through mass layoffs and shelved plans for a long-awaited $25,000 model that had been expected to drive sales growth.“Going balls to the wall for autonomy is a blindingly obvious move,” the billionaire executive posted on his social-media platform X in mid-April. Tesla shares, down more than 28% so far this year, surged in late April when Musk visited China and made progress toward approvals to sell FSD there.Musk has repeatedly promised self-driving Teslas for about a decade. \"Mere failure to realize a long-term, aspirational goal is not fraud,\" Tesla lawyers said in a 2022 court filing.LEGAL CHALLENGESProsecutors scrutinizing Tesla’s autonomous-car claims are proceeding with caution, recognizing the legal hurdles they face, the people familiar with the inquiry said.They will need to demonstrate that Tesla’s claims crossed a line from legal salesmanship to material and knowingly false statements that unlawfully harmed consumers or investors, three legal experts uninvolved in the probe told Reuters.U.S. courts previously have ruled that “puffery” or “corporate optimism” regarding product claims do not amount to fraud. In 2008, a federal appeals court ruled that statements of corporate optimism alone do not demonstrate that a company official intentionally misled investors.Justice Department officials will likely seek internal Tesla communications as evidence that Musk or others knew they were making false statements, said Daniel Richman, a Columbia Law School professor and former federal prosecutor. That is a challenge, Richman said, but the safety risk involved in overselling self-driving systems also “speaks to the seriousness with which prosecutors, a judge and jury would take the statements.”FATAL CRASHESTesla’s claims about Autopilot and FSD have also drawn scrutiny in regulatory investigations and lawsuits.Safety regulators and courts have raised concerns in recent months that corporate messaging about the technology - including the brand names Autopilot and Full Self-Driving - have imbued customers with a false sense of security.In April, the Washington State Patrol arrested a man on suspicion of vehicular homicide after his Tesla, with Autopilot engaged, struck and killed a motorcyclist while the driver looked at his phone, police records show. In a probable-cause statement, a trooper cited the driver’s “admitted inattention to driving, while on autopilot mode ... putting trust in the machine to drive for him.”In Washington state, a driver remains \"responsible for the safe and legal operation of that vehicle\" regardless of its technological capabilities, a state patrol spokesperson told Reuters.The same month, the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration launched an investigation into whether a Tesla recall of more than 2 million vehicles in December adequately addressed safety issues with Autopilot.NHTSA declined to comment.The recall followed a long-running probe opened by regulators after cars with Autopilot engaged repeatedly crashed into vehicles at first-responder emergency scenes. Regulators subsequently examined hundreds of crashes where Autopilot was engaged and identified 14 deaths and 54 injuries.Tesla disputed NHTSA's findings but agreed to the recall, which employed over-the-air software updates intended to alert inattentive drivers.The NHTSA investigation found “a critical safety gap between drivers’ expectations” of Tesla’s technology “and the system’s true capabilities,” according to agency records. “This gap led to foreseeable misuse and avoidable 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Global EV sales are estimated to be roughly 6 million units for 2021. Of these, China alone is expected to account for around 2.9 ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/01/02/will-nio-recover-in-2022/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4505":"高瓴资本持仓","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","BK4532":"文艺复兴科技持仓","NIO":"蔚来","BK4504":"桥水持仓","BK4099":"汽车制造商","BK4555":"新能源车","BK4531":"中概回港概念","BK4509":"腾讯概念","BK4526":"热门中概股"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/01/02/will-nio-recover-in-2022/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2200203447","content_text":"For electric vehicle (EV) investors, China is an attractive market. Global EV sales are estimated to be roughly 6 million units for 2021. Of these, China alone is expected to account for around 2.9 million units.Yet, investors remain skeptical about investing in Chinese stocks. Considering some key developments in China in 2021, such skepticism looks reasonable. However, assuming you've already considered that risk in the context of your portfolio, let's discuss whether it is a good idea to buy Nio (NYSE:NIO) stock right now.Nio operates in a competitive marketAs a leading market for EVs, China obviously attracts top global players. Nio competes with established players, including BYD and Tesla, as well as with newer entrants, including Li Auto and XPeng. Further, Nio also faces competition from legacy automakers, including Volkswagen and General Motors, which are looking to capture a portion of the fast-growing Chinese EV market.In November, BYD sold 90,546 EVs in China, compared to around 10,700 vehicles delivered by Nio. By comparison, Tesla sold 52,859 EVs in China in November.There is a lot to like about NioAfter launching its first car in 2016, Nio has delivered more than 156,000 electric vehicles so far, with 80,940 delivered in 2021 (through November). The company's recent sales growth indicates a robust demand for its vehicles.NIO revenue (quarterly). Data by YCharts.Among Chinese pure-play EV companies, Nio is a top player both in terms of revenue and revenue growth. Notably, BYD derives only a little over half of its revenue from vehicle sales. There are some key factors that differentiate Nio from its competitors.First, Nio's innovative Battery-as-as-Service model allows its users to swap batteries of their EVs with new ones at any of the company's 700 battery swapping stations. Users can swap their discharged batteries quickly if they are short of time to recharge it. Alternatively, they may choose to swap a battery and go for a bigger or smaller pack, depending on their specific need. Nio has done more than 5.3 million battery swaps so far, indicating a robust demand for the same.Second, Nio is launching two new models: the ET7, a luxury sedan, and the ET5, a mid-size sedan. Moreover, the company will launch a third new model in 2022, which hasn't been unveiled yet. Not many of its competitors are planning to launch as many new models in the year. Further, these upcoming models are expected to be among the best in their target segment.Both ET5 and ET7 come with Renminbi (RMB) 680 (around $106) monthly subscription for autonomous driving updates. Further, both have different battery options, from a 75 kilowatt-hour (kWh) (70 kWh in ET7) standard-range battery to a 150 kWh battery, which can go 620 miles on a single recharge. Deliveries of ET7 are expected to commence in March and ET5 in September.The ET5 model is priced at RMB 328,000 (roughly $51,500) while ET7's price starts from RMB 448,000 (around $70,300). These two new models are expected to receive a positive response from customers, boosting Nio's sales in 2022. That could also support the stock's price in the new year.Is Nio stock a buy?Nio stock is trading at a forward price-to-sales ratio of around 4.6. That's comparable to that of its peers Li Auto and XPeng. However, Nio's ratio has improved significantly from around 10 in January 2021.NIO PS Ratio (Forward 1y). Data by YCharts.By comparison, BYD stock is trading at a price-to-sales ratio of around 3. As Nio is still not making profits, price-to-sales ratio is useful for comparing its valuation relative to its peers. A lower ratio is considered better.Again, Nio stock looks much better valued compared to stocks of U.S. EV companies, such as Rivian or Lucid, each of which has delivered only a few hundred vehicles so far.Apart from the domestic China market, Nio is targeting European markets for expansion. It started deliveries in Norway in September and is looking to enter five more countries in 2022. If successful, this expansion will establish Nio as a top EV maker that can meet global quality standards.Despite competition, Nio has been growing its sales so far. Its upcoming models, international growth plans, and innovative offerings positions it well for long-term growth. 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The trade is valued at approximately $30.3 million.</p><p>This move comes amid reports of Tesla’s declining sales in China, where October deliveries fell by 36% year-over-year to 26,000 units. Year-to-date deliveries are down roughly 40,000 vehicles, putting the company at risk of its first annual decline in the market. Including exports, total deliveries from Tesla's Shanghai factory dropped 9.9% to 61,497 vehicles.</p><p>Notably, Ark dumped $2.4 million worth of Tesla shares on Monday. The firm also sold 789 shares of the Elon Musk-headed automaker on Tuesday.</p><h2 id=\"id_1801452050\" style=\"text-align: start;\">The Circle Trade</h2><p>Ark Invest made a substantial purchase of Circle shares, acquiring 245,830 shares via the ARKK ETF and 70,613 shares through ARKW. Circle’s stock closed at $86.30, down 12.21% on Wednesday, valuing the transaction at approximately $30.5 million.</p><p>Despite the <strong>USDC</strong> issuer’s impressive 202% profit surge in the third quarter, the stock’s decline suggests investor skepticism about its long-term growth potential. Circle’s third-quarter net income reached $214 million, with total revenue and reserve income increasing by 66% to $740 million.</p><h2 id=\"id_2486105261\" style=\"text-align: start;\">The Alibaba Trade</h2><p>Ark Invest also increased its stake in Alibaba, purchasing 4,878 shares via ARKK, 364 shares through <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ARKF\">ARK Fintech Innovation ETF</a>, and 1,396 shares with ARKW. Alibaba’s stock closed at $157.91, down 1.8% on Wednesday, with the trade valued at approximately $1.05 million.</p><p>The Jack Ma-founded company continues to attract investors with its focus on artificial intelligence, cloud infrastructure, and instant-commerce delivery. The stock has surged 98% year-to-date, despite potential risks from U.S. restrictions on advanced AI chips.</p><p>On Tuesday, Ark Invest had purchased $25.36 million worth of Alibaba shares.</p><h2 id=\"id_249147130\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Other Key Trades</h2><ul style=\"list-style-type: disc;\"><li><p>Sold 205,524 shares of <strong>Iridium Communications Inc</strong> through <strong>ARKK</strong>, 53,954 shares through <strong>AKRQ</strong> and 15,897 shares via <strong>ARKX</strong>.</p></li><li><p>Sold 43,940 shares of <strong>SoFi Technologies Inc</strong> via <strong>ARKF</strong>.</p></li><li><p>Purchased 50,084 shares of <strong>Twist Bioscience Corp</strong> through <strong>ARKK</strong>.</p></li><li><p>Sold 84,515 shares of <strong>Exact Sciences Corp</strong> via <strong>ARKK</strong>.</p></li></ul></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Cathie Wood Dumps $30 Million Worth of Tesla Stock Amid China Sales Slump, Loads up Circle and This Hot Chinese AI Stock</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nCathie Wood Dumps $30 Million Worth of Tesla Stock Amid China Sales Slump, Loads up Circle and This Hot Chinese AI Stock\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2025-11-13 11:12</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>On Wednesday, <strong>Cathie Wood</strong>-led Ark Invest executed significant trades involving <strong><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/CRCL\">Circle</a></strong>, <strong><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BABA\">Alibaba Group</a></strong>, and <strong><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">Tesla</a></strong>. These trades reflect Ark’s strategic positioning in the market, with notable buys in Circle and Alibaba, and a sell-off in Tesla.</p><h2 id=\"id_1400706566\" style=\"text-align: start;\">The TSLA Trade: </h2><p>Ark Invest reduced its holdings in Tesla<strong> </strong>by selling 70,474 shares through <strong><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ARKK\">ARK Innovation ETF</a></strong> and <strong><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ARKW\">ARK Next Generation Internet ETF</a></strong>. Tesla’s stock closed at $430.60 on Wednesday, marking a 2.05% decline. The trade is valued at approximately $30.3 million.</p><p>This move comes amid reports of Tesla’s declining sales in China, where October deliveries fell by 36% year-over-year to 26,000 units. Year-to-date deliveries are down roughly 40,000 vehicles, putting the company at risk of its first annual decline in the market. Including exports, total deliveries from Tesla's Shanghai factory dropped 9.9% to 61,497 vehicles.</p><p>Notably, Ark dumped $2.4 million worth of Tesla shares on Monday. The firm also sold 789 shares of the Elon Musk-headed automaker on Tuesday.</p><h2 id=\"id_1801452050\" style=\"text-align: start;\">The Circle Trade</h2><p>Ark Invest made a substantial purchase of Circle shares, acquiring 245,830 shares via the ARKK ETF and 70,613 shares through ARKW. Circle’s stock closed at $86.30, down 12.21% on Wednesday, valuing the transaction at approximately $30.5 million.</p><p>Despite the <strong>USDC</strong> issuer’s impressive 202% profit surge in the third quarter, the stock’s decline suggests investor skepticism about its long-term growth potential. Circle’s third-quarter net income reached $214 million, with total revenue and reserve income increasing by 66% to $740 million.</p><h2 id=\"id_2486105261\" style=\"text-align: start;\">The Alibaba Trade</h2><p>Ark Invest also increased its stake in Alibaba, purchasing 4,878 shares via ARKK, 364 shares through <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ARKF\">ARK Fintech Innovation ETF</a>, and 1,396 shares with ARKW. Alibaba’s stock closed at $157.91, down 1.8% on Wednesday, with the trade valued at approximately $1.05 million.</p><p>The Jack Ma-founded company continues to attract investors with its focus on artificial intelligence, cloud infrastructure, and instant-commerce delivery. The stock has surged 98% year-to-date, despite potential risks from U.S. restrictions on advanced AI chips.</p><p>On Tuesday, Ark Invest had purchased $25.36 million worth of Alibaba shares.</p><h2 id=\"id_249147130\" style=\"text-align: start;\">Other Key Trades</h2><ul style=\"list-style-type: disc;\"><li><p>Sold 205,524 shares of <strong>Iridium Communications Inc</strong> through <strong>ARKK</strong>, 53,954 shares through <strong>AKRQ</strong> and 15,897 shares via <strong>ARKX</strong>.</p></li><li><p>Sold 43,940 shares of <strong>SoFi Technologies Inc</strong> via <strong>ARKF</strong>.</p></li><li><p>Purchased 50,084 shares of <strong>Twist Bioscience Corp</strong> through <strong>ARKK</strong>.</p></li><li><p>Sold 84,515 shares of <strong>Exact Sciences Corp</strong> via <strong>ARKK</strong>.</p></li></ul></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLL":"2倍做多TSLA ETF-Direxion","TSLA":"特斯拉","BABA":"阿里巴巴","ARKK":"ARK Innovation ETF"},"source_url":"https://www.benzinga.com/news/25/11/48824168/cathie-wood-dumps-30-million-worth-of-tesla-stock-amid-china-sales-slump-loads-up-circle-and-this-hot-chinese-ai-stock","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2583681535","content_text":"On Wednesday, Cathie Wood-led Ark Invest executed significant trades involving Circle, Alibaba Group, and Tesla. These trades reflect Ark’s strategic positioning in the market, with notable buys in Circle and Alibaba, and a sell-off in Tesla.The TSLA Trade: Ark Invest reduced its holdings in Tesla by selling 70,474 shares through ARK Innovation ETF and ARK Next Generation Internet ETF. Tesla’s stock closed at $430.60 on Wednesday, marking a 2.05% decline. The trade is valued at approximately $30.3 million.This move comes amid reports of Tesla’s declining sales in China, where October deliveries fell by 36% year-over-year to 26,000 units. Year-to-date deliveries are down roughly 40,000 vehicles, putting the company at risk of its first annual decline in the market. Including exports, total deliveries from Tesla's Shanghai factory dropped 9.9% to 61,497 vehicles.Notably, Ark dumped $2.4 million worth of Tesla shares on Monday. The firm also sold 789 shares of the Elon Musk-headed automaker on Tuesday.The Circle TradeArk Invest made a substantial purchase of Circle shares, acquiring 245,830 shares via the ARKK ETF and 70,613 shares through ARKW. Circle’s stock closed at $86.30, down 12.21% on Wednesday, valuing the transaction at approximately $30.5 million.Despite the USDC issuer’s impressive 202% profit surge in the third quarter, the stock’s decline suggests investor skepticism about its long-term growth potential. Circle’s third-quarter net income reached $214 million, with total revenue and reserve income increasing by 66% to $740 million.The Alibaba TradeArk Invest also increased its stake in Alibaba, purchasing 4,878 shares via ARKK, 364 shares through ARK Fintech Innovation ETF, and 1,396 shares with ARKW. Alibaba’s stock closed at $157.91, down 1.8% on Wednesday, with the trade valued at approximately $1.05 million.The Jack Ma-founded company continues to attract investors with its focus on artificial intelligence, cloud infrastructure, and instant-commerce delivery. The stock has surged 98% year-to-date, despite potential risks from U.S. restrictions on advanced AI chips.On Tuesday, Ark Invest had purchased $25.36 million worth of Alibaba shares.Other Key TradesSold 205,524 shares of Iridium Communications Inc through ARKK, 53,954 shares through AKRQ and 15,897 shares via ARKX.Sold 43,940 shares of SoFi Technologies Inc via ARKF.Purchased 50,084 shares of Twist Bioscience Corp through ARKK.Sold 84,515 shares of Exact Sciences Corp via ARKK.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"TSLL":1.5,"ARKK":1.5,"TSLA":1.5,"BABA":2}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":117,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":328634509176960,"gmtCreate":1721271972502,"gmtModify":1721271980415,"author":{"id":"3574213079513866","authorId":"3574213079513866","name":"NatMeg","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/425463aa7de7f81def2d836be3ff01e3","crmLevel":13,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574213079513866","authorIdStr":"3574213079513866"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Who cares about price targets from analyst?? ","listText":"Who cares about price targets from analyst?? ","text":"Who cares about price targets from analyst??","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/328634509176960","repostId":"1168426708","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2063,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":303782731305272,"gmtCreate":1715186054649,"gmtModify":1715186058185,"author":{"id":"3574213079513866","authorId":"3574213079513866","name":"NatMeg","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/425463aa7de7f81def2d836be3ff01e3","crmLevel":13,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574213079513866","authorIdStr":"3574213079513866"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Hit piece. Delay tactics by enemies of Elon.","listText":"Hit piece. Delay tactics by enemies of Elon.","text":"Hit piece. Delay tactics by enemies of Elon.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/303782731305272","repostId":"1175242990","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1175242990","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Reuters.com brings you the latest news from around the world, covering breaking news in markets, business, politics, entertainment and technology","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Reuters","id":"1036604489","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868"},"pubTimestamp":1715175605,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1175242990?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-05-08 21:40","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Falls 3% After Report US Autopilot Probe to Focus on Securities, Wire Fraud","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1175242990","media":"Reuters","summary":"(Reuters) - U.S. prosecutors are examining whether Tesla committed securities or wire fraud by misleading investors and consumers about its electric vehicles’ self-driving capabilities, three people f","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>(Reuters) - U.S. prosecutors are examining whether Tesla committed securities or wire fraud by misleading investors and consumers about its electric vehicles’ self-driving capabilities, three people familiar with the matter told Reuters.</p><p>Tesla stock fell over 3% in morning trading.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f18fdcbbf0ab46f884c8fab1dc15a376\" tg-width=\"787\" tg-height=\"624\"/></p><p>Tesla’s Autopilot and Full Self-Driving systems assist with steering, braking and lane changes - but are not fully autonomous. While Tesla has warned drivers to stay ready to take over driving, the Justice Department is examining other statements by Tesla and Chief Executive Elon Musk suggesting its cars can drive themselves.</p><p>U.S. regulators have separately investigated hundreds of crashes, including fatal ones, that have occurred in Teslas with Autopilot engaged, resulting in a mass recall by the automaker.</p><p>Reuters exclusively reported the U.S. criminal investigation into Tesla in October 2022, and is now the first to report the specific criminal liability federal prosecutors are examining.</p><p>Investigators are exploring whether Tesla committed wire fraud, which involves deception in interstate communications, by misleading consumers about its driver-assistance systems, the sources said. They are also examining whether Tesla committed securities fraud by deceiving investors, two of the sources said.</p><p>The Securities and Exchange Commission is also investigating Tesla’s representations about driver-assistance systems to investors, one of the people said. The SEC declined to comment.</p><p>Tesla did not respond to a request for comment. Last October, it disclosed in a filing that the Justice Department had asked the company for information about Autopilot and Full Self-Driving.</p><p>The Justice Department declined to comment.</p><p>The probe, which is not evidence of wrongdoing, could result in criminal charges, civil sanctions, or no action. Prosecutors are far from deciding how to proceed, one of the sources said, in part because they are sifting through voluminous documents Tesla provided in response to subpoenas.</p><p>Reuters could not determine the specific statements prosecutors are reviewing as potentially illegal. Musk has aggressively touted the prowess of Tesla’s driver-assistance technology for nearly a decade.</p><p>Tesla videos demonstrating the technology that remain <u>archived, opens new tab</u> on its <u>website, opens new tab</u> say: “The person in the driver’s seat is only there for legal reasons. He is not doing anything. The car is driving itself.”</p><p>A Tesla <u>engineer testified</u> in 2022 in a lawsuit over a fatal crash involving Autopilot that one of the videos, posted in October 2016, intended to show the technology’s potential and did not accurately portray its capabilities at the time. Musk nevertheless posted the video on social media, writing: “Tesla drives itself (no human input at all) thru urban streets to highway streets, then finds a parking spot.”</p><p>In a conference call with reporters in 2016, Musk described Autopilot as “probably better” than a human driver. During an October 2022 call, Musk addressed a forthcoming FSD upgrade he said would allow customers to travel “to your work, your friend’s house, to the grocery store without you touching the wheel.”</p><p>Musk is increasingly focused on self-driving technology as Tesla's car sales and profit slump. Tesla recently <u>slashed costs through mass layoffs</u> and shelved plans for a long-awaited $25,000 model that had been expected to drive sales growth.</p><p>“Going balls to the wall for autonomy is a blindingly obvious move,” the billionaire executive posted on his social-media platform X in mid-April. Tesla shares, down more than 28% so far this year, surged in late April when Musk visited China and made progress toward approvals to sell FSD there.</p><p>Musk has repeatedly promised self-driving Teslas for about a decade. "Mere failure to realize a long-term, aspirational goal is not fraud," Tesla lawyers said in a 2022 court filing.</p><h2 id=\"id_1016071554\" style=\"text-align: start;\">LEGAL CHALLENGES</h2><p>Prosecutors scrutinizing Tesla’s autonomous-car claims are proceeding with caution, recognizing the legal hurdles they face, the people familiar with the inquiry said.</p><p>They will need to demonstrate that Tesla’s claims crossed a line from legal salesmanship to material and knowingly false statements that unlawfully harmed consumers or investors, three legal experts uninvolved in the probe told Reuters.</p><p>U.S. courts previously have ruled that “puffery” or “corporate optimism” regarding product claims do not amount to fraud. In 2008, a federal appeals court ruled that statements of corporate optimism alone do not demonstrate that a company official intentionally misled investors.</p><p>Justice Department officials will likely seek internal Tesla communications as evidence that Musk or others knew they were making false statements, said Daniel Richman, a Columbia Law School professor and former federal prosecutor. That is a challenge, Richman said, but the safety risk involved in overselling self-driving systems also “speaks to the seriousness with which prosecutors, a judge and jury would take the statements.”</p><p>FATAL CRASHES</p><p>Tesla’s claims about Autopilot and FSD have also drawn scrutiny in regulatory investigations and lawsuits.</p><p>Safety regulators and courts have raised concerns in recent months that corporate messaging about the technology - including the brand names Autopilot and Full Self-Driving - have imbued customers with a false sense of security.</p><p>In April, the Washington State Patrol arrested a man on suspicion of vehicular homicide after his Tesla, with Autopilot engaged, struck and killed a motorcyclist while the driver looked at his phone, police records show. In a probable-cause statement, a trooper cited the driver’s “admitted inattention to driving, while on autopilot mode ... putting trust in the machine to drive for him.”</p><p>In Washington state, a driver remains "responsible for the safe and legal operation of that vehicle" regardless of its technological capabilities, a state patrol spokesperson told Reuters.</p><p>The same month, the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration launched an investigation into whether a Tesla recall of more than 2 million vehicles in December adequately addressed safety issues with Autopilot.</p><p>NHTSA declined to comment.</p><p>The recall followed a long-running probe opened by regulators after cars with Autopilot engaged repeatedly crashed into vehicles at first-responder emergency scenes. Regulators subsequently examined hundreds of crashes where Autopilot was engaged and identified 14 deaths and 54 injuries.</p><p>Tesla disputed NHTSA's findings but agreed to the recall, which employed over-the-air software updates intended to alert inattentive drivers.</p><p>The NHTSA investigation found “a critical safety gap between drivers’ expectations” of Tesla’s technology “and the system’s true capabilities,” according to agency records. “This gap led to foreseeable misuse and avoidable crashes.”</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Falls 3% After Report US Autopilot Probe to Focus on Securities, Wire Fraud</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Falls 3% After Report US Autopilot Probe to Focus on Securities, Wire Fraud\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1036604489\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Reuters </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-05-08 21:40</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>(Reuters) - U.S. prosecutors are examining whether Tesla committed securities or wire fraud by misleading investors and consumers about its electric vehicles’ self-driving capabilities, three people familiar with the matter told Reuters.</p><p>Tesla stock fell over 3% in morning trading.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f18fdcbbf0ab46f884c8fab1dc15a376\" tg-width=\"787\" tg-height=\"624\"/></p><p>Tesla’s Autopilot and Full Self-Driving systems assist with steering, braking and lane changes - but are not fully autonomous. While Tesla has warned drivers to stay ready to take over driving, the Justice Department is examining other statements by Tesla and Chief Executive Elon Musk suggesting its cars can drive themselves.</p><p>U.S. regulators have separately investigated hundreds of crashes, including fatal ones, that have occurred in Teslas with Autopilot engaged, resulting in a mass recall by the automaker.</p><p>Reuters exclusively reported the U.S. criminal investigation into Tesla in October 2022, and is now the first to report the specific criminal liability federal prosecutors are examining.</p><p>Investigators are exploring whether Tesla committed wire fraud, which involves deception in interstate communications, by misleading consumers about its driver-assistance systems, the sources said. They are also examining whether Tesla committed securities fraud by deceiving investors, two of the sources said.</p><p>The Securities and Exchange Commission is also investigating Tesla’s representations about driver-assistance systems to investors, one of the people said. The SEC declined to comment.</p><p>Tesla did not respond to a request for comment. Last October, it disclosed in a filing that the Justice Department had asked the company for information about Autopilot and Full Self-Driving.</p><p>The Justice Department declined to comment.</p><p>The probe, which is not evidence of wrongdoing, could result in criminal charges, civil sanctions, or no action. Prosecutors are far from deciding how to proceed, one of the sources said, in part because they are sifting through voluminous documents Tesla provided in response to subpoenas.</p><p>Reuters could not determine the specific statements prosecutors are reviewing as potentially illegal. Musk has aggressively touted the prowess of Tesla’s driver-assistance technology for nearly a decade.</p><p>Tesla videos demonstrating the technology that remain <u>archived, opens new tab</u> on its <u>website, opens new tab</u> say: “The person in the driver’s seat is only there for legal reasons. He is not doing anything. The car is driving itself.”</p><p>A Tesla <u>engineer testified</u> in 2022 in a lawsuit over a fatal crash involving Autopilot that one of the videos, posted in October 2016, intended to show the technology’s potential and did not accurately portray its capabilities at the time. Musk nevertheless posted the video on social media, writing: “Tesla drives itself (no human input at all) thru urban streets to highway streets, then finds a parking spot.”</p><p>In a conference call with reporters in 2016, Musk described Autopilot as “probably better” than a human driver. During an October 2022 call, Musk addressed a forthcoming FSD upgrade he said would allow customers to travel “to your work, your friend’s house, to the grocery store without you touching the wheel.”</p><p>Musk is increasingly focused on self-driving technology as Tesla's car sales and profit slump. Tesla recently <u>slashed costs through mass layoffs</u> and shelved plans for a long-awaited $25,000 model that had been expected to drive sales growth.</p><p>“Going balls to the wall for autonomy is a blindingly obvious move,” the billionaire executive posted on his social-media platform X in mid-April. Tesla shares, down more than 28% so far this year, surged in late April when Musk visited China and made progress toward approvals to sell FSD there.</p><p>Musk has repeatedly promised self-driving Teslas for about a decade. "Mere failure to realize a long-term, aspirational goal is not fraud," Tesla lawyers said in a 2022 court filing.</p><h2 id=\"id_1016071554\" style=\"text-align: start;\">LEGAL CHALLENGES</h2><p>Prosecutors scrutinizing Tesla’s autonomous-car claims are proceeding with caution, recognizing the legal hurdles they face, the people familiar with the inquiry said.</p><p>They will need to demonstrate that Tesla’s claims crossed a line from legal salesmanship to material and knowingly false statements that unlawfully harmed consumers or investors, three legal experts uninvolved in the probe told Reuters.</p><p>U.S. courts previously have ruled that “puffery” or “corporate optimism” regarding product claims do not amount to fraud. In 2008, a federal appeals court ruled that statements of corporate optimism alone do not demonstrate that a company official intentionally misled investors.</p><p>Justice Department officials will likely seek internal Tesla communications as evidence that Musk or others knew they were making false statements, said Daniel Richman, a Columbia Law School professor and former federal prosecutor. That is a challenge, Richman said, but the safety risk involved in overselling self-driving systems also “speaks to the seriousness with which prosecutors, a judge and jury would take the statements.”</p><p>FATAL CRASHES</p><p>Tesla’s claims about Autopilot and FSD have also drawn scrutiny in regulatory investigations and lawsuits.</p><p>Safety regulators and courts have raised concerns in recent months that corporate messaging about the technology - including the brand names Autopilot and Full Self-Driving - have imbued customers with a false sense of security.</p><p>In April, the Washington State Patrol arrested a man on suspicion of vehicular homicide after his Tesla, with Autopilot engaged, struck and killed a motorcyclist while the driver looked at his phone, police records show. In a probable-cause statement, a trooper cited the driver’s “admitted inattention to driving, while on autopilot mode ... putting trust in the machine to drive for him.”</p><p>In Washington state, a driver remains "responsible for the safe and legal operation of that vehicle" regardless of its technological capabilities, a state patrol spokesperson told Reuters.</p><p>The same month, the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration launched an investigation into whether a Tesla recall of more than 2 million vehicles in December adequately addressed safety issues with Autopilot.</p><p>NHTSA declined to comment.</p><p>The recall followed a long-running probe opened by regulators after cars with Autopilot engaged repeatedly crashed into vehicles at first-responder emergency scenes. Regulators subsequently examined hundreds of crashes where Autopilot was engaged and identified 14 deaths and 54 injuries.</p><p>Tesla disputed NHTSA's findings but agreed to the recall, which employed over-the-air software updates intended to alert inattentive drivers.</p><p>The NHTSA investigation found “a critical safety gap between drivers’ expectations” of Tesla’s technology “and the system’s true capabilities,” according to agency records. “This gap led to foreseeable misuse and avoidable crashes.”</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1175242990","content_text":"(Reuters) - U.S. prosecutors are examining whether Tesla committed securities or wire fraud by misleading investors and consumers about its electric vehicles’ self-driving capabilities, three people familiar with the matter told Reuters.Tesla stock fell over 3% in morning trading.Tesla’s Autopilot and Full Self-Driving systems assist with steering, braking and lane changes - but are not fully autonomous. While Tesla has warned drivers to stay ready to take over driving, the Justice Department is examining other statements by Tesla and Chief Executive Elon Musk suggesting its cars can drive themselves.U.S. regulators have separately investigated hundreds of crashes, including fatal ones, that have occurred in Teslas with Autopilot engaged, resulting in a mass recall by the automaker.Reuters exclusively reported the U.S. criminal investigation into Tesla in October 2022, and is now the first to report the specific criminal liability federal prosecutors are examining.Investigators are exploring whether Tesla committed wire fraud, which involves deception in interstate communications, by misleading consumers about its driver-assistance systems, the sources said. They are also examining whether Tesla committed securities fraud by deceiving investors, two of the sources said.The Securities and Exchange Commission is also investigating Tesla’s representations about driver-assistance systems to investors, one of the people said. The SEC declined to comment.Tesla did not respond to a request for comment. Last October, it disclosed in a filing that the Justice Department had asked the company for information about Autopilot and Full Self-Driving.The Justice Department declined to comment.The probe, which is not evidence of wrongdoing, could result in criminal charges, civil sanctions, or no action. Prosecutors are far from deciding how to proceed, one of the sources said, in part because they are sifting through voluminous documents Tesla provided in response to subpoenas.Reuters could not determine the specific statements prosecutors are reviewing as potentially illegal. Musk has aggressively touted the prowess of Tesla’s driver-assistance technology for nearly a decade.Tesla videos demonstrating the technology that remain archived, opens new tab on its website, opens new tab say: “The person in the driver’s seat is only there for legal reasons. He is not doing anything. The car is driving itself.”A Tesla engineer testified in 2022 in a lawsuit over a fatal crash involving Autopilot that one of the videos, posted in October 2016, intended to show the technology’s potential and did not accurately portray its capabilities at the time. Musk nevertheless posted the video on social media, writing: “Tesla drives itself (no human input at all) thru urban streets to highway streets, then finds a parking spot.”In a conference call with reporters in 2016, Musk described Autopilot as “probably better” than a human driver. During an October 2022 call, Musk addressed a forthcoming FSD upgrade he said would allow customers to travel “to your work, your friend’s house, to the grocery store without you touching the wheel.”Musk is increasingly focused on self-driving technology as Tesla's car sales and profit slump. Tesla recently slashed costs through mass layoffs and shelved plans for a long-awaited $25,000 model that had been expected to drive sales growth.“Going balls to the wall for autonomy is a blindingly obvious move,” the billionaire executive posted on his social-media platform X in mid-April. Tesla shares, down more than 28% so far this year, surged in late April when Musk visited China and made progress toward approvals to sell FSD there.Musk has repeatedly promised self-driving Teslas for about a decade. \"Mere failure to realize a long-term, aspirational goal is not fraud,\" Tesla lawyers said in a 2022 court filing.LEGAL CHALLENGESProsecutors scrutinizing Tesla’s autonomous-car claims are proceeding with caution, recognizing the legal hurdles they face, the people familiar with the inquiry said.They will need to demonstrate that Tesla’s claims crossed a line from legal salesmanship to material and knowingly false statements that unlawfully harmed consumers or investors, three legal experts uninvolved in the probe told Reuters.U.S. courts previously have ruled that “puffery” or “corporate optimism” regarding product claims do not amount to fraud. In 2008, a federal appeals court ruled that statements of corporate optimism alone do not demonstrate that a company official intentionally misled investors.Justice Department officials will likely seek internal Tesla communications as evidence that Musk or others knew they were making false statements, said Daniel Richman, a Columbia Law School professor and former federal prosecutor. That is a challenge, Richman said, but the safety risk involved in overselling self-driving systems also “speaks to the seriousness with which prosecutors, a judge and jury would take the statements.”FATAL CRASHESTesla’s claims about Autopilot and FSD have also drawn scrutiny in regulatory investigations and lawsuits.Safety regulators and courts have raised concerns in recent months that corporate messaging about the technology - including the brand names Autopilot and Full Self-Driving - have imbued customers with a false sense of security.In April, the Washington State Patrol arrested a man on suspicion of vehicular homicide after his Tesla, with Autopilot engaged, struck and killed a motorcyclist while the driver looked at his phone, police records show. In a probable-cause statement, a trooper cited the driver’s “admitted inattention to driving, while on autopilot mode ... putting trust in the machine to drive for him.”In Washington state, a driver remains \"responsible for the safe and legal operation of that vehicle\" regardless of its technological capabilities, a state patrol spokesperson told Reuters.The same month, the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration launched an investigation into whether a Tesla recall of more than 2 million vehicles in December adequately addressed safety issues with Autopilot.NHTSA declined to comment.The recall followed a long-running probe opened by regulators after cars with Autopilot engaged repeatedly crashed into vehicles at first-responder emergency scenes. Regulators subsequently examined hundreds of crashes where Autopilot was engaged and identified 14 deaths and 54 injuries.Tesla disputed NHTSA's findings but agreed to the recall, which employed over-the-air software updates intended to alert inattentive drivers.The NHTSA investigation found “a critical safety gap between drivers’ expectations” of Tesla’s technology “and the system’s true capabilities,” according to agency records. “This gap led to foreseeable misuse and avoidable crashes.”","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"TSLA":1.1}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":2123,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":885837734,"gmtCreate":1631774572828,"gmtModify":1676530632244,"author":{"id":"3574213079513866","authorId":"3574213079513866","name":"NatMeg","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/425463aa7de7f81def2d836be3ff01e3","crmLevel":13,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574213079513866","authorIdStr":"3574213079513866"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"$266M out of $3,260M is not even 1% of her total Tesla holdings… ","listText":"$266M out of $3,260M is not even 1% of her total Tesla holdings… ","text":"$266M out of $3,260M is not even 1% of her total Tesla holdings…","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/885837734","repostId":"2167287516","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":994,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":462324148474264,"gmtCreate":1753918111397,"gmtModify":1753927557085,"author":{"id":"3574213079513866","authorId":"3574213079513866","name":"NatMeg","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/425463aa7de7f81def2d836be3ff01e3","crmLevel":13,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574213079513866","authorIdStr":"3574213079513866"},"themes":[],"htmlText":" Electrk is biased garbage ","listText":" Electrk is biased garbage ","text":"Electrk is biased garbage","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/462324148474264","repostId":"1132740458","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":859,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":328126048251920,"gmtCreate":1721138988401,"gmtModify":1721140128342,"author":{"id":"3574213079513866","authorId":"3574213079513866","name":"NatMeg","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/425463aa7de7f81def2d836be3ff01e3","crmLevel":13,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574213079513866","authorIdStr":"3574213079513866"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Electrek is garbage. blind Tesla hater","listText":"Electrek is garbage. blind Tesla hater","text":"Electrek is garbage. blind Tesla hater","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/328126048251920","repostId":"2451794106","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2451794106","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1721092763,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2451794106?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-07-16 09:19","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Elon Musk Confirms Tesla Robotaxi Delay, Says Front Design Change","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2451794106","media":"Electrek","summary":"Elon Musk has confirmed that Tesla is delaying the unveiling of its Robotaxi and adds that he requested a front design change.","content":"<div>\n<p>Elon Musk has confirmed that Tesla is delaying the unveiling of its Robotaxi and adds that he requested a front design change.Last week, Bloomberg reported that Tesla is delaying the unveiling of the ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://electrek.co/2024/07/15/elon-musk-confirms-tesla-robotaxi-delay-front-design-change/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n","source":"electrek_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; 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The report claimed that the delay was to give Tesla more time to build more prototypes.Tesla CEO Elon Musk has now confirmed that the unveiling has been delayed, without confirming the new timeline.The CEO added that he requested “an important design change to the front”:Requested what I think is an important design change to the front, and extra time allows us to show off a few other things.For the last few years, Tesla has been working on a vehicle designed from the ground up to be a self-driving vehicle. The company has been referring to it as ‘Robotaxi’.CEO Elon Musk insists that Tesla is still dedicated to delivering its promised self-driving capability to existing vehicles delivered since 2016 through software update, but it also decided to build a new vehicle designed entirely around the fact that it will be driverless.Not much is known about the vehicle other than hints that it won’t have a steering wheel or pedals, and that it will be “Cybertruck-like” in terms of design. We might have also seen a glimpse of the interior in a video that Tesla released.In April, Musk said that Tesla would unveil the vehicle on August 8th.Now, it sounds like the unveiling is going to be closer to the end of the year.Electrek’s TakeIn my opinion, the only thing that Tesla could unveil or announce at the Robotaxi unveiling that would have any impact would be deals to actually use the Robotaxi in geo-fenced areas, like a deal with the city of Austin, for example.Anything else seems either unlikely or unimpactful.Why should we care about a vehicle designed for self-driving if Tesla has yet to solve self-driving on vehicles built since 2016 that were promised to become self-driving?","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"TSLL":1,"TSLA":0.9}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":1640,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":399188817936608,"gmtCreate":1738483342479,"gmtModify":1738487076903,"author":{"id":"3574213079513866","authorId":"3574213079513866","name":"NatMeg","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/425463aa7de7f81def2d836be3ff01e3","crmLevel":13,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"3574213079513866","authorIdStr":"3574213079513866"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"U should have called it at 480. All u are doing is riding on trump tariff noise","listText":"U should have called it at 480. All u are doing is riding on trump tariff noise","text":"U should have called it at 480. All u are doing is riding on trump tariff noise","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/399188817936608","repostId":"1175504218","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1175504218","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1738476351,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1175504218?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2025-02-02 14:05","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla: Once Again, It's Time To Trim","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1175504218","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"Let's dive in.Our Tesla FrameworkIn case you missed our earlier articles on TSLA, here's a quick summary of how we see the stock. Normally, we'd skip writing a section like this, but TSLA is a very volatile, speculative bet, and many investors look at the financials and see entirely different things. Thus, we think it's necessary, first, to establish how we think about the company.In short, we see TSLA as an advanced manufacturing firm, mostly producing cars. Sure, TSLA also manufactures batteri","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2 id=\"id_2350035770\">Summary</h2><ul style=\"\"><li><p>We initially rated Tesla, Inc. stock a Sell in November 2023 due to slowing growth and a lofty valuation. From there, the stock fell 31%.</p></li><li><p>Then, we upgraded Tesla in April 2024 after the market appeared too negative on shares. Since, the stock has risen 126%, driven by speculation around Robotaxis and autonomous driving.</p></li><li><p>Now, Tesla appears overvalued again. We recommend trimming TSLA from your portfolio due to overly optimistic projections around “future products”.</p></li><li><p>We're downgrading TSLA to a Sell.</p></li></ul><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/cdc1cd3d3c3dd57b72a9ddb8d4037dbd\" alt=\"White cyborg robotic hand pointing his finger - 3D rendering isolated on free PNG background.\" title=\"White cyborg robotic hand pointing his finger - 3D rendering isolated on free PNG background.\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/><span>White cyborg robotic hand pointing his finger - 3D rendering isolated on free PNG background.</span></p><p></p><p>Of all the stocks we've covered here on Seeking Alpha, we're particularly proud of our track record when it comes to <strong>Tesla, Inc.</strong> (NASDAQ:TSLA).</p><p>Our coverage began on the stock in November 2023, when we called the stock a <strong>Sell</strong> based on the company's slowing growth and lack of progress on key initiatives. At the time, the multiple seemed a bit rich for the company's output, so we came out as bears:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla: The Range Of Outcomes Is Narrowing; That's A Bad Thing.</p></li></ul><p>From that point, the stock <strong>fell roughly 31%</strong>, until we upgraded it on April 9th, 2024.</p><p>At that point, shares seemed unduly beat up, in our view, and we upgraded TSLA:</p><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Tesla: When The Time Comes To Buy, You Won't Want To (Rating Upgrade).</p></li></ul><p>Since then, the stock is <strong>back up roughly 126%</strong>, in which time we put out another bullish article about Robotaxis, arguing that speculation around future gains in autonomous driving and Optimus could drive continued appreciation for investors:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5581c8a7e68cb36fb694d47a44ae5139\" alt=\"TSLA\" title=\"TSLA\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"412\"/><span>TSLA</span></p><p></p><p>All of this is to say that we feel like we have a “good bead” on the company's valuation and business dynamics.</p><p>From that frame, we feel that the stock has once again become 'too expensive', and it appears as though it could be time, once again, to trim.</p><p><strong>Today</strong>, we'll cover the recent earnings report, examine the stock's lofty valuation, and explain why, on balance, we think it's time to begin pruning TSLA out of your portfolio — at least for now.</p><p>Sound good? Let's dive in.</p><h2 id=\"id_4071302040\">Our Tesla Framework</h2><p>In case you missed our earlier articles on TSLA, here's a quick summary of how we see the stock. Normally, we'd skip writing a section like this, but TSLA is a very volatile, <strong>speculative</strong> bet, and many investors look at the financials and see entirely different things. Thus, we think it's necessary, first, to establish how we think about the company.</p><p>In short, we see TSLA as an advanced manufacturing firm, <strong>mostly</strong> producing cars. Sure, TSLA also manufactures batteries and other components in its <strong>Energy</strong> segment, but at its heart, the firm is an automotive company.</p><p>Why? Because this is where most of TSLA's financial results are derived. A massive chunk of the company's revenues come from the automotive segment, which means that this is a natural point of comparison for analysts:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/93a2427e63efa5746b2965c9ceb9e2e4\" alt=\"TSLA\" title=\"TSLA\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"80\"/><span>TSLA</span></p><p></p><p>Thus, when contrasted with competitors, Tesla's $1.3 trillion valuation can be very challenging to comprehend.</p><p>In our view, this valuation difference vs. peers is largely down to TSLA's “upcoming” product launches, mainly <strong>full self-drive (“FSD”) & Robotaxis</strong>, and <strong>Optimus</strong> (the robot):</p><blockquote><p></p><p>A significant portion of Tesla's current value is tied to higher margin, non-automotive, ['future'] products like Robotaxi, Dojo, and Optimus.</p><p>We'd estimate that about 80% of TSLA's 'future product' value is perceived to be in the Robotaxi segment, as it is the closest to 'production' and the most natural extension of TSLA's current business.</p><p>If you take this estimate at face value, then it means [robotaxis are] likely incredibly consequential for <strong>~65% of TSLA's market cap </strong>or about $500 billion in shareholder value.</p></blockquote><p>This estimate was from October. Since then, TSLA has rallied more than 60% while financial results have largely remained flat, which signals that basically <strong>all of this appreciation</strong> has been due to <strong>investors assigning a higher multiple</strong> to these future product launches.</p><p>For TSLA, we see two main camps within the analyst community. There are those that see the stock as a purely “car” company (and thus, overvalued), and those that see it as an advanced manufacturer of the future, including automated cars, robots, software, energy solutions, and more (which would make it undervalued).</p><p>We sit somewhere in the middle. TSLA is clearly an automotive company right now, but if the company can execute — which they have proven that they can — then there could be significantly more value that gets unlocked for investors in coming years.</p><p>As sentiment around the company shifts, our “middle of the road” understanding gives us a leg up in identifying when things 'extend' too far in one direction or the other, which is precisely what we think we see right now.</p><h2 id=\"id_2739569595\">Tesla's Q4</h2><p>Looking at the most recent quarter, Tesla turned in what most are collectively calling a “stinker.”</p><p>Revenue came in as a massive miss, and the firm's top-line growth also left much to be desired. EPS also came in below expectations, albeit slightly.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/c450991d7c204335d448252a6501dcd8\" alt=\"TSLA\" title=\"TSLA\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"389\"/><span>TSLA</span></p><p></p><p>All in all, it was a pretty dismal showing.</p><p>Of particular note was the company's considerable drop in TTM net income, which is largely due to TSLA's car pricing strategy (cutting) having a continued impact on margins:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/ab5185ab57962b8842cdd2391d696294\" alt=\"TSLA\" title=\"TSLA\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"410\"/><span>TSLA</span></p><p></p><p>These tactical pricing changes are meant to keep TSLA car volumes up, but it has put serious pressure on gross margins over time.</p><p>In other words, <strong>competition</strong> is heating up, materializing, and eating into investor's bottom-line returns:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/2c65e31186dd1af096afe7c1045b3cba\" alt=\"TSLA\" title=\"TSLA\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"302\"/><span>TSLA</span></p><p></p><p>For much of TSLA's run over the last 5 years, many bulls have argued that the company's product was differentiated enough to warrant a higher multiple, on the back of structurally higher margins. However, now, this doesn't appear to be the case.</p><p>Granted, some decline in TTM net income is from the drop-off of a positive Q4 in 2023 which had a huge, unusual tax item, but even adjusted for that, TSLA's <strong>net income is still down double-digit percentages</strong>.</p><p>Trump's cutting of EV incentives only presents further headwinds to the business.</p><p>Similarly, TSLA's profitability would be down <strong>even more</strong> without Bitcoin. As we can see from the 10K, a material percentage of TSLA's $7.1 billion in net income is from an increase in the fair value of the firm's total Bitcoin holdings (emphasis added):</p><blockquote><p>Other income (expense), net, changed favorably by <strong>$523 million</strong> in the year ended December 31, 2024 as compared to the year ended December 31, 2023 primarily due to remeasurement of our bitcoin digital assets to fair value in 2024.</p></blockquote><p>Overall, it's not a pretty picture for the core business.</p><p>Bulls might say that these pricing headwinds are transient, or that the consumer environment is cyclical, but we'd counter by saying <strong>hey, that's the car business</strong>.</p><p>In other words, maybe Tesla <em>isn't</em> that different from competitors when it comes to making and selling cars.</p><h2 id=\"id_3009924548\">The Valuation</h2><p>But what is Tesla worth?</p><p>If you slap on car industry averages to Tesla's financial results, then you're looking at a P/E of ~7x and a P/S of roughly 0.6x:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/816000a0e759e7a6c468d88f42c1758c\" alt=\"TSLA\" title=\"TSLA\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"176\"/><span>TSLA</span></p><p></p><p>This would output a market cap between roughly ~$49 billion and ~$57 billion. Considering the current market cap of <strong><em>$1.28 trillion</em></strong>, the market clearly doesn't agree with this framing.</p><p>Looking now at the earnings call, TSLA management heavily, <strong>heavily</strong> focused on the company's future product lines — mainly Optimus and robotaxis (emphasis added):</p><blockquote><p></p><p>We made many critical investments in 2024 in manufacturing AI and robotics that will bear <strong>immense</strong> fruit in the future, <strong>immense</strong>.</p><p>Like it's, in fact, to such a scale that it is difficult to comprehend. And I've said this before, and I'll stand by it. I see a path, I'm not saying it's an easy path, but I see a path for <strong>Tesla being the most valuable company in the world by far</strong>, not even close.</p><p>Like, maybe several times more than, I mean, there is a path where <strong>Tesla is worth more than the next top five companies combined</strong>. There's a path to that. I mean, I think it's like an incredibly, just like a difficult path, but it is an achievable path.</p><p>So -- and that is overwhelmingly due to <strong>autonomous vehicles</strong> and autonomous <strong>humanoid robots</strong>.</p></blockquote><p>What a sales pitch!</p><p>To us, <strong>this</strong> makes Tesla's <em>story</em> “clear.” For investors, this is clearly where the value is coming from. The core business isn't growing much anymore as the market saturates and competition heats up — fine.</p><p>However, the company's balance sheet is strong, and as long as there's serious potential in TSLA's new businesses, then the stock gets the premium.</p><p>From this point, it's a “show me” story.</p><p>For our money, investors are too optimistic about this future.</p><p>In our previous article, we laid out what an <strong>incredibly</strong> optimistic bull case for what Robotaxis could be worth, assuming that they launched this year:</p><blockquote><p></p><p>In this model, adoption is slow to start, but quickly scales as users join the network and make their idle Teslas earn while they sleep.</p><p>Again, the demand is the real constraint here, but given the likely lower cost of automated ride hail, it should prove popular with cost-conscious consumers:</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b20aed07e35218fcce1a3d01c41ccfb0\" alt=\"TSLA\" title=\"TSLA\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"199\"/><span>TSLA</span></p><p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong>PropNotes</strong></p><p>In this scenario, we see TSLA earning more per ride, and with a larger network of supply and demand under their control.</p><p>This scenario would represent a 60% upside for the NPV of the robotaxi segment (at a 4% discount rate), which works out to roughly 37% upside for TSLA's stock.</p><p>This works out to a share price of roughly <strong>$345 per share</strong>.</p></blockquote><p>Under this optimistic scenario, robotaxis launch immediately and gain market share quickly. In that case, we'd argue Tesla is maybe worth $345 per share. Currently, the stock is trading at around $400, and robotaxis aren't expected until June, in a single city (Austin).</p><p>To us, this shows undue optimism, part of which may be caused by statements like this from management around the new product lines (emphasis added):</p><blockquote><p></p><p>I've -- some of these things I've said for quite a long time and I know people said, well, Elon is the boy who cried wolf-like several times but I'm telling you there's a damn wolf this time and you can drive it. In fact, it can drive you. <strong>It's a self-driving wolf</strong>.</p><p>These things that already exist with no incremental cost change, just a software update, now have five times or more utility than they currently have. I think this will be the <strong>largest asset value increase in human history</strong>. Maybe there's something bigger, but I just don't know what it is. And so people who look in the rearview mirror are looking for past precedent, except I don't think there is one.</p><p>I think long-term, Optimus will be -- Optimus has the potential to be north of <strong><em>$10 trillion in revenue</em></strong>. Like, it's really bananas.</p></blockquote><p>All told, we don't expect that within a few years' time, TSLA will be raking in 1/10th of global GDP in revenues on a single product alone.</p><h2 id=\"id_3741566877\">Summary</h2><p>Thus, we come to our summary of Tesla.</p><p>At this price, there's potentially significant value in the company's future projects, as the market has shown, but at present, the valuation of those projects appears too speculative.</p><p>Overall, this mispricing means that investors should consider selling out of their stakes and waiting to buy lower. If the past is anything to go by, you'll get your chance to do just that.</p><p>Cheers!</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1728464409321","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla: Once Again, It's Time To Trim</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla: Once Again, It's Time To Trim\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2025-02-02 14:05 GMT+8 <a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4753962-tesla-once-again-time-to-trim-double-rating-downgrade><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryWe initially rated Tesla, Inc. stock a Sell in November 2023 due to slowing growth and a lofty valuation. From there, the stock fell 31%.Then, we upgraded Tesla in April 2024 after the market ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4753962-tesla-once-again-time-to-trim-double-rating-downgrade\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4753962-tesla-once-again-time-to-trim-double-rating-downgrade","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1175504218","content_text":"SummaryWe initially rated Tesla, Inc. stock a Sell in November 2023 due to slowing growth and a lofty valuation. From there, the stock fell 31%.Then, we upgraded Tesla in April 2024 after the market appeared too negative on shares. Since, the stock has risen 126%, driven by speculation around Robotaxis and autonomous driving.Now, Tesla appears overvalued again. We recommend trimming TSLA from your portfolio due to overly optimistic projections around “future products”.We're downgrading TSLA to a Sell.White cyborg robotic hand pointing his finger - 3D rendering isolated on free PNG background.Of all the stocks we've covered here on Seeking Alpha, we're particularly proud of our track record when it comes to Tesla, Inc. (NASDAQ:TSLA).Our coverage began on the stock in November 2023, when we called the stock a Sell based on the company's slowing growth and lack of progress on key initiatives. At the time, the multiple seemed a bit rich for the company's output, so we came out as bears:Tesla: The Range Of Outcomes Is Narrowing; That's A Bad Thing.From that point, the stock fell roughly 31%, until we upgraded it on April 9th, 2024.At that point, shares seemed unduly beat up, in our view, and we upgraded TSLA:Tesla: When The Time Comes To Buy, You Won't Want To (Rating Upgrade).Since then, the stock is back up roughly 126%, in which time we put out another bullish article about Robotaxis, arguing that speculation around future gains in autonomous driving and Optimus could drive continued appreciation for investors:TSLAAll of this is to say that we feel like we have a “good bead” on the company's valuation and business dynamics.From that frame, we feel that the stock has once again become 'too expensive', and it appears as though it could be time, once again, to trim.Today, we'll cover the recent earnings report, examine the stock's lofty valuation, and explain why, on balance, we think it's time to begin pruning TSLA out of your portfolio — at least for now.Sound good? Let's dive in.Our Tesla FrameworkIn case you missed our earlier articles on TSLA, here's a quick summary of how we see the stock. Normally, we'd skip writing a section like this, but TSLA is a very volatile, speculative bet, and many investors look at the financials and see entirely different things. Thus, we think it's necessary, first, to establish how we think about the company.In short, we see TSLA as an advanced manufacturing firm, mostly producing cars. Sure, TSLA also manufactures batteries and other components in its Energy segment, but at its heart, the firm is an automotive company.Why? Because this is where most of TSLA's financial results are derived. A massive chunk of the company's revenues come from the automotive segment, which means that this is a natural point of comparison for analysts:TSLAThus, when contrasted with competitors, Tesla's $1.3 trillion valuation can be very challenging to comprehend.In our view, this valuation difference vs. peers is largely down to TSLA's “upcoming” product launches, mainly full self-drive (“FSD”) & Robotaxis, and Optimus (the robot):A significant portion of Tesla's current value is tied to higher margin, non-automotive, ['future'] products like Robotaxi, Dojo, and Optimus.We'd estimate that about 80% of TSLA's 'future product' value is perceived to be in the Robotaxi segment, as it is the closest to 'production' and the most natural extension of TSLA's current business.If you take this estimate at face value, then it means [robotaxis are] likely incredibly consequential for ~65% of TSLA's market cap or about $500 billion in shareholder value.This estimate was from October. Since then, TSLA has rallied more than 60% while financial results have largely remained flat, which signals that basically all of this appreciation has been due to investors assigning a higher multiple to these future product launches.For TSLA, we see two main camps within the analyst community. There are those that see the stock as a purely “car” company (and thus, overvalued), and those that see it as an advanced manufacturer of the future, including automated cars, robots, software, energy solutions, and more (which would make it undervalued).We sit somewhere in the middle. TSLA is clearly an automotive company right now, but if the company can execute — which they have proven that they can — then there could be significantly more value that gets unlocked for investors in coming years.As sentiment around the company shifts, our “middle of the road” understanding gives us a leg up in identifying when things 'extend' too far in one direction or the other, which is precisely what we think we see right now.Tesla's Q4Looking at the most recent quarter, Tesla turned in what most are collectively calling a “stinker.”Revenue came in as a massive miss, and the firm's top-line growth also left much to be desired. EPS also came in below expectations, albeit slightly.TSLAAll in all, it was a pretty dismal showing.Of particular note was the company's considerable drop in TTM net income, which is largely due to TSLA's car pricing strategy (cutting) having a continued impact on margins:TSLAThese tactical pricing changes are meant to keep TSLA car volumes up, but it has put serious pressure on gross margins over time.In other words, competition is heating up, materializing, and eating into investor's bottom-line returns:TSLAFor much of TSLA's run over the last 5 years, many bulls have argued that the company's product was differentiated enough to warrant a higher multiple, on the back of structurally higher margins. However, now, this doesn't appear to be the case.Granted, some decline in TTM net income is from the drop-off of a positive Q4 in 2023 which had a huge, unusual tax item, but even adjusted for that, TSLA's net income is still down double-digit percentages.Trump's cutting of EV incentives only presents further headwinds to the business.Similarly, TSLA's profitability would be down even more without Bitcoin. As we can see from the 10K, a material percentage of TSLA's $7.1 billion in net income is from an increase in the fair value of the firm's total Bitcoin holdings (emphasis added):Other income (expense), net, changed favorably by $523 million in the year ended December 31, 2024 as compared to the year ended December 31, 2023 primarily due to remeasurement of our bitcoin digital assets to fair value in 2024.Overall, it's not a pretty picture for the core business.Bulls might say that these pricing headwinds are transient, or that the consumer environment is cyclical, but we'd counter by saying hey, that's the car business.In other words, maybe Tesla isn't that different from competitors when it comes to making and selling cars.The ValuationBut what is Tesla worth?If you slap on car industry averages to Tesla's financial results, then you're looking at a P/E of ~7x and a P/S of roughly 0.6x:TSLAThis would output a market cap between roughly ~$49 billion and ~$57 billion. Considering the current market cap of $1.28 trillion, the market clearly doesn't agree with this framing.Looking now at the earnings call, TSLA management heavily, heavily focused on the company's future product lines — mainly Optimus and robotaxis (emphasis added):We made many critical investments in 2024 in manufacturing AI and robotics that will bear immense fruit in the future, immense.Like it's, in fact, to such a scale that it is difficult to comprehend. And I've said this before, and I'll stand by it. I see a path, I'm not saying it's an easy path, but I see a path for Tesla being the most valuable company in the world by far, not even close.Like, maybe several times more than, I mean, there is a path where Tesla is worth more than the next top five companies combined. There's a path to that. I mean, I think it's like an incredibly, just like a difficult path, but it is an achievable path.So -- and that is overwhelmingly due to autonomous vehicles and autonomous humanoid robots.What a sales pitch!To us, this makes Tesla's story “clear.” For investors, this is clearly where the value is coming from. The core business isn't growing much anymore as the market saturates and competition heats up — fine.However, the company's balance sheet is strong, and as long as there's serious potential in TSLA's new businesses, then the stock gets the premium.From this point, it's a “show me” story.For our money, investors are too optimistic about this future.In our previous article, we laid out what an incredibly optimistic bull case for what Robotaxis could be worth, assuming that they launched this year:In this model, adoption is slow to start, but quickly scales as users join the network and make their idle Teslas earn while they sleep.Again, the demand is the real constraint here, but given the likely lower cost of automated ride hail, it should prove popular with cost-conscious consumers:TSLAPropNotesIn this scenario, we see TSLA earning more per ride, and with a larger network of supply and demand under their control.This scenario would represent a 60% upside for the NPV of the robotaxi segment (at a 4% discount rate), which works out to roughly 37% upside for TSLA's stock.This works out to a share price of roughly $345 per share.Under this optimistic scenario, robotaxis launch immediately and gain market share quickly. In that case, we'd argue Tesla is maybe worth $345 per share. Currently, the stock is trading at around $400, and robotaxis aren't expected until June, in a single city (Austin).To us, this shows undue optimism, part of which may be caused by statements like this from management around the new product lines (emphasis added):I've -- some of these things I've said for quite a long time and I know people said, well, Elon is the boy who cried wolf-like several times but I'm telling you there's a damn wolf this time and you can drive it. In fact, it can drive you. It's a self-driving wolf.These things that already exist with no incremental cost change, just a software update, now have five times or more utility than they currently have. I think this will be the largest asset value increase in human history. Maybe there's something bigger, but I just don't know what it is. And so people who look in the rearview mirror are looking for past precedent, except I don't think there is one.I think long-term, Optimus will be -- Optimus has the potential to be north of $10 trillion in revenue. Like, it's really bananas.All told, we don't expect that within a few years' time, TSLA will be raking in 1/10th of global GDP in revenues on a single product alone.SummaryThus, we come to our summary of Tesla.At this price, there's potentially significant value in the company's future projects, as the market has shown, but at present, the valuation of those projects appears too speculative.Overall, this mispricing means that investors should consider selling out of their stakes and waiting to buy lower. 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On a typical vehicle, the underbody can consist of hundreds of individual parts.</p><p>Last year, as Tesla developed a new small-vehicle platform, it aimed to punch out the underbody in a single piece, Reuters exclusively reported last September, citing five sources familiar with the automaker’s gigacasting operations. The long-term goal was to radically simplify manufacturing and slash costs.</p><p>But Tesla has since halted the effort, opting to stick with its more proven method of casting vehicle underbodies in three pieces: two gigacasted front and rear sections and a midsection made of aluminum and steel frames to store batteries, according to the two sources familiar with the matter. That is largely the same three-piece method the company has used for its last two new models, the Model Y crossover SUV and the Cybertruck pickup.</p><p>Tesla’s retreat from one-piece gigacasting has not been previously reported. The automaker did not respond to a request for comment.</p><p>The decision to hold off on the potential manufacturing breakthrough marks another example of Tesla slashing short-term spending as it adjusts to falling sales and profit margins, softening EV demand globally, and intensifying competition from rival EV makers such as China’s BYD. Tesla last month laid off more than 10% of its global workforce. A handful of senior executives have also resigned or been pushed out.</p><p>Such moves also reflect a fundamental strategy shift, with Tesla now focusing more on developing self-driving vehicles than on pushing for huge growth in EV sales volume, which many investors had been counting on.</p><p>The step-back on gigacasting occurred last autumn, the people said, before Tesla decided in late February to halt development of an all-new affordable car, often called the Model 2, which would have been the first vehicle it built with one-piece gigacasting. Reuters first reported the cancellation of the Model 2 on April 5.</p><p>On April 23, as it released earnings that missed Wall Street expectations, Tesla said it had a simpler, faster plan for producing “more affordable” cars after shelving plans for the Model 2, which was expected to cost $25,000 and be released in the second half of 2025.</p><p>Instead, Tesla officials said, it would produce affordable models using a current platform and production lines. On an investor call, Chief Executive Elon Musk declined to provide details on the planned new offerings or their target prices.</p><p>Tesla has not entirely abandoned the small-vehicle platform it had planned for the Model 2. Instead, it will move forward in developing a self-driving robotaxi on the same platform, Reuters reported in the April 5 story. One of the two sources familiar with the automaker’s gigacasting operations said the suppliers involved are now adapting Tesla's three-piece process for the next-generation vehicle.</p><p>Both sources said the automaker decided last autumn to halt work on the more innovative and difficult one-piece casting process. At the time, the rationale for the decision was to speed development of the now-defunct Model 2 and avoid any costly delays or manufacturing problems, the two sources said.</p><h2 id=\"id_1625347922\" style=\"text-align: start;\">BIG UPFRONT INVESTMENT</h2><p>Tesla and Musk have said gigacasting helps the automaker reduce costs over the long term. But the process requires large initial investments and is difficult and time-consuming to perfect, automotive manufacturing experts say.</p><p>Experts in vehicle manufacturing said Tesla’s more conservative path on gigacasting is no surprise and in part reflects the pains it has experienced historically in launching complex and innovative vehicles on time. The automaker’s highly experimental Cybertruck arrived last autumn at a far higher price than predicted after substantial delays to work through manufacturing issues. Tesla is still struggling to produce the angular, stainless-steel pickup in mass-market volumes.</p><p>Holding off on one-piece gigacasting will save the company from making massive short-term capital investments in manufacturing and design, said Terry Woychowski, president of U.S. engineering company Caresoft Global, who has led teardowns and engineering analyses on numerous vehicles, including Teslas.</p><p>“Would they rather have done it all in one big piece? Sure, they would’ve, but at what cost?” Woychowski asked.</p><p>James Womack, a vehicle manufacturing expert and former research director at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, said Tesla’s gigacasting pullback reflects the company’s scramble last year to launch an all-new $25,000 car to catch up with Chinese EV makers who are already dominating the low-cost EV segment.</p><p>But pushing forward with an innovative production technique would do little to help sell a Tesla car to consumers, Womack said.</p><p>“It’s not very exciting from the standpoint of the public and buyer,” Womack said, “and you don’t know whether this is really a big cost-saver or not.”</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Retreats From Next-Generation \"Gigacasting\" Manufacturing Process</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Retreats From Next-Generation \"Gigacasting\" Manufacturing Process\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1036604489\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Reuters </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-05-02 16:06</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>AUSTIN, Texas, May 1 (Reuters) - Tesla has backed away from an ambitious plan for innovations in gigacasting, its pioneering manufacturing process, according to two sources familiar with the matter, in another sign that the electric-vehicle maker is retrenching amid falling sales and rising competition.</p><p>Shares rose 2% in premarket trading.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/03ca59fe2d52727a450ef968c14c02cb\" tg-width=\"848\" tg-height=\"843\"/></p><p>Tesla has been a leader in gigacasting, a cutting-edge technique that uses huge presses with thousands of tons of clamping pressure to die-cast large sections of the car’s underbody. On a typical vehicle, the underbody can consist of hundreds of individual parts.</p><p>Last year, as Tesla developed a new small-vehicle platform, it aimed to punch out the underbody in a single piece, Reuters exclusively reported last September, citing five sources familiar with the automaker’s gigacasting operations. The long-term goal was to radically simplify manufacturing and slash costs.</p><p>But Tesla has since halted the effort, opting to stick with its more proven method of casting vehicle underbodies in three pieces: two gigacasted front and rear sections and a midsection made of aluminum and steel frames to store batteries, according to the two sources familiar with the matter. That is largely the same three-piece method the company has used for its last two new models, the Model Y crossover SUV and the Cybertruck pickup.</p><p>Tesla’s retreat from one-piece gigacasting has not been previously reported. The automaker did not respond to a request for comment.</p><p>The decision to hold off on the potential manufacturing breakthrough marks another example of Tesla slashing short-term spending as it adjusts to falling sales and profit margins, softening EV demand globally, and intensifying competition from rival EV makers such as China’s BYD. Tesla last month laid off more than 10% of its global workforce. A handful of senior executives have also resigned or been pushed out.</p><p>Such moves also reflect a fundamental strategy shift, with Tesla now focusing more on developing self-driving vehicles than on pushing for huge growth in EV sales volume, which many investors had been counting on.</p><p>The step-back on gigacasting occurred last autumn, the people said, before Tesla decided in late February to halt development of an all-new affordable car, often called the Model 2, which would have been the first vehicle it built with one-piece gigacasting. Reuters first reported the cancellation of the Model 2 on April 5.</p><p>On April 23, as it released earnings that missed Wall Street expectations, Tesla said it had a simpler, faster plan for producing “more affordable” cars after shelving plans for the Model 2, which was expected to cost $25,000 and be released in the second half of 2025.</p><p>Instead, Tesla officials said, it would produce affordable models using a current platform and production lines. On an investor call, Chief Executive Elon Musk declined to provide details on the planned new offerings or their target prices.</p><p>Tesla has not entirely abandoned the small-vehicle platform it had planned for the Model 2. Instead, it will move forward in developing a self-driving robotaxi on the same platform, Reuters reported in the April 5 story. One of the two sources familiar with the automaker’s gigacasting operations said the suppliers involved are now adapting Tesla's three-piece process for the next-generation vehicle.</p><p>Both sources said the automaker decided last autumn to halt work on the more innovative and difficult one-piece casting process. At the time, the rationale for the decision was to speed development of the now-defunct Model 2 and avoid any costly delays or manufacturing problems, the two sources said.</p><h2 id=\"id_1625347922\" style=\"text-align: start;\">BIG UPFRONT INVESTMENT</h2><p>Tesla and Musk have said gigacasting helps the automaker reduce costs over the long term. But the process requires large initial investments and is difficult and time-consuming to perfect, automotive manufacturing experts say.</p><p>Experts in vehicle manufacturing said Tesla’s more conservative path on gigacasting is no surprise and in part reflects the pains it has experienced historically in launching complex and innovative vehicles on time. The automaker’s highly experimental Cybertruck arrived last autumn at a far higher price than predicted after substantial delays to work through manufacturing issues. Tesla is still struggling to produce the angular, stainless-steel pickup in mass-market volumes.</p><p>Holding off on one-piece gigacasting will save the company from making massive short-term capital investments in manufacturing and design, said Terry Woychowski, president of U.S. engineering company Caresoft Global, who has led teardowns and engineering analyses on numerous vehicles, including Teslas.</p><p>“Would they rather have done it all in one big piece? Sure, they would’ve, but at what cost?” Woychowski asked.</p><p>James Womack, a vehicle manufacturing expert and former research director at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, said Tesla’s gigacasting pullback reflects the company’s scramble last year to launch an all-new $25,000 car to catch up with Chinese EV makers who are already dominating the low-cost EV segment.</p><p>But pushing forward with an innovative production technique would do little to help sell a Tesla car to consumers, Womack said.</p><p>“It’s not very exciting from the standpoint of the public and buyer,” Womack said, “and you don’t know whether this is really a big cost-saver or not.”</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"LU2602419157.SGD":"HSBC ISLAMIC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"AC\" (SGD) ACC","TSLA":"特斯拉","BK4588":"碎股","LU1551013425.SGD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS H2-SGD","BK4511":"特斯拉概念","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","LU2756315318.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMG\" (SGDHDG) INC A","LU2326559502.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity P/A SGD-H","LU0348723411.USD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL HI-TECH GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC","BK4574":"无人驾驶","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","LU1720051017.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence AT Acc H2-SGD","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","LU2249611893.SGD":"BNP PARIBAS ENERGY TRANSITION \"CRH\" (SGD) ACC","LU0820561909.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AM\" (HKD) INC","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" ACC","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","LU2063271972.USD":"富兰克林创新领域基金","LU1548497426.USD":"安联环球人工智能AT Acc","LU1839511570.USD":"WELLS FARGO GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"I\" (USD) ACC","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","BK4099":"汽车制造商","LU2756315664.SGD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMI\" (SGDHDG) INC","BK4527":"明星科技股","TSLL":"2倍做多TSLA ETF-Direxion","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","LU2357305700.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence ET H2-SGD","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","LU0820561818.USD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金Cl AM DIS","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","LU0823414478.USD":"法巴经典能源转换基金","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0466842654.USD":"HSBC ISLAMIC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0097036916.USD":"贝莱德美国增长A2 USD","LU0689472784.USD":"安联收益及增长基金Cl AM AT Acc","BK4555":"新能源车","LU2087621335.USD":"ALLSPRING GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU1852331112.SGD":"Blackrock World Technology Fund A2 SGD-H","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","IE00BSNM7G36.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN SYSTEMATIC GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0234572021.USD":"高盛美国核心股票组合Acc","LU0820562030.AUD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMH2\" (AUDHDG) H2 INC","LU0082616367.USD":"摩根大通美国科技A(dist)","LU1861558580.USD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B","BK4592":"伊斯兰概念","LU0053666078.USD":"摩根大通基金-美国股票A(离岸)美元"},"source_url":"https://api.rkd.refinitiv.com/api/News/News.svc/REST/News_1/RetrieveStoryML_1","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2432504032","content_text":"AUSTIN, Texas, May 1 (Reuters) - Tesla has backed away from an ambitious plan for innovations in gigacasting, its pioneering manufacturing process, according to two sources familiar with the matter, in another sign that the electric-vehicle maker is retrenching amid falling sales and rising competition.Shares rose 2% in premarket trading.Tesla has been a leader in gigacasting, a cutting-edge technique that uses huge presses with thousands of tons of clamping pressure to die-cast large sections of the car’s underbody. On a typical vehicle, the underbody can consist of hundreds of individual parts.Last year, as Tesla developed a new small-vehicle platform, it aimed to punch out the underbody in a single piece, Reuters exclusively reported last September, citing five sources familiar with the automaker’s gigacasting operations. The long-term goal was to radically simplify manufacturing and slash costs.But Tesla has since halted the effort, opting to stick with its more proven method of casting vehicle underbodies in three pieces: two gigacasted front and rear sections and a midsection made of aluminum and steel frames to store batteries, according to the two sources familiar with the matter. That is largely the same three-piece method the company has used for its last two new models, the Model Y crossover SUV and the Cybertruck pickup.Tesla’s retreat from one-piece gigacasting has not been previously reported. The automaker did not respond to a request for comment.The decision to hold off on the potential manufacturing breakthrough marks another example of Tesla slashing short-term spending as it adjusts to falling sales and profit margins, softening EV demand globally, and intensifying competition from rival EV makers such as China’s BYD. Tesla last month laid off more than 10% of its global workforce. A handful of senior executives have also resigned or been pushed out.Such moves also reflect a fundamental strategy shift, with Tesla now focusing more on developing self-driving vehicles than on pushing for huge growth in EV sales volume, which many investors had been counting on.The step-back on gigacasting occurred last autumn, the people said, before Tesla decided in late February to halt development of an all-new affordable car, often called the Model 2, which would have been the first vehicle it built with one-piece gigacasting. Reuters first reported the cancellation of the Model 2 on April 5.On April 23, as it released earnings that missed Wall Street expectations, Tesla said it had a simpler, faster plan for producing “more affordable” cars after shelving plans for the Model 2, which was expected to cost $25,000 and be released in the second half of 2025.Instead, Tesla officials said, it would produce affordable models using a current platform and production lines. On an investor call, Chief Executive Elon Musk declined to provide details on the planned new offerings or their target prices.Tesla has not entirely abandoned the small-vehicle platform it had planned for the Model 2. Instead, it will move forward in developing a self-driving robotaxi on the same platform, Reuters reported in the April 5 story. One of the two sources familiar with the automaker’s gigacasting operations said the suppliers involved are now adapting Tesla's three-piece process for the next-generation vehicle.Both sources said the automaker decided last autumn to halt work on the more innovative and difficult one-piece casting process. At the time, the rationale for the decision was to speed development of the now-defunct Model 2 and avoid any costly delays or manufacturing problems, the two sources said.BIG UPFRONT INVESTMENTTesla and Musk have said gigacasting helps the automaker reduce costs over the long term. But the process requires large initial investments and is difficult and time-consuming to perfect, automotive manufacturing experts say.Experts in vehicle manufacturing said Tesla’s more conservative path on gigacasting is no surprise and in part reflects the pains it has experienced historically in launching complex and innovative vehicles on time. The automaker’s highly experimental Cybertruck arrived last autumn at a far higher price than predicted after substantial delays to work through manufacturing issues. Tesla is still struggling to produce the angular, stainless-steel pickup in mass-market volumes.Holding off on one-piece gigacasting will save the company from making massive short-term capital investments in manufacturing and design, said Terry Woychowski, president of U.S. engineering company Caresoft Global, who has led teardowns and engineering analyses on numerous vehicles, including Teslas.“Would they rather have done it all in one big piece? 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Global EV sales are estimated to be roughly 6 million units for 2021. Of these, China alone is expected to account for around 2.9 ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/01/02/will-nio-recover-in-2022/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4505":"高瓴资本持仓","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","BK4532":"文艺复兴科技持仓","NIO":"蔚来","BK4504":"桥水持仓","BK4099":"汽车制造商","BK4555":"新能源车","BK4531":"中概回港概念","BK4509":"腾讯概念","BK4526":"热门中概股"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/01/02/will-nio-recover-in-2022/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2200203447","content_text":"For electric vehicle (EV) investors, China is an attractive market. Global EV sales are estimated to be roughly 6 million units for 2021. Of these, China alone is expected to account for around 2.9 million units.Yet, investors remain skeptical about investing in Chinese stocks. Considering some key developments in China in 2021, such skepticism looks reasonable. However, assuming you've already considered that risk in the context of your portfolio, let's discuss whether it is a good idea to buy Nio (NYSE:NIO) stock right now.Nio operates in a competitive marketAs a leading market for EVs, China obviously attracts top global players. Nio competes with established players, including BYD and Tesla, as well as with newer entrants, including Li Auto and XPeng. Further, Nio also faces competition from legacy automakers, including Volkswagen and General Motors, which are looking to capture a portion of the fast-growing Chinese EV market.In November, BYD sold 90,546 EVs in China, compared to around 10,700 vehicles delivered by Nio. By comparison, Tesla sold 52,859 EVs in China in November.There is a lot to like about NioAfter launching its first car in 2016, Nio has delivered more than 156,000 electric vehicles so far, with 80,940 delivered in 2021 (through November). The company's recent sales growth indicates a robust demand for its vehicles.NIO revenue (quarterly). Data by YCharts.Among Chinese pure-play EV companies, Nio is a top player both in terms of revenue and revenue growth. Notably, BYD derives only a little over half of its revenue from vehicle sales. There are some key factors that differentiate Nio from its competitors.First, Nio's innovative Battery-as-as-Service model allows its users to swap batteries of their EVs with new ones at any of the company's 700 battery swapping stations. Users can swap their discharged batteries quickly if they are short of time to recharge it. Alternatively, they may choose to swap a battery and go for a bigger or smaller pack, depending on their specific need. Nio has done more than 5.3 million battery swaps so far, indicating a robust demand for the same.Second, Nio is launching two new models: the ET7, a luxury sedan, and the ET5, a mid-size sedan. Moreover, the company will launch a third new model in 2022, which hasn't been unveiled yet. Not many of its competitors are planning to launch as many new models in the year. Further, these upcoming models are expected to be among the best in their target segment.Both ET5 and ET7 come with Renminbi (RMB) 680 (around $106) monthly subscription for autonomous driving updates. Further, both have different battery options, from a 75 kilowatt-hour (kWh) (70 kWh in ET7) standard-range battery to a 150 kWh battery, which can go 620 miles on a single recharge. Deliveries of ET7 are expected to commence in March and ET5 in September.The ET5 model is priced at RMB 328,000 (roughly $51,500) while ET7's price starts from RMB 448,000 (around $70,300). These two new models are expected to receive a positive response from customers, boosting Nio's sales in 2022. That could also support the stock's price in the new year.Is Nio stock a buy?Nio stock is trading at a forward price-to-sales ratio of around 4.6. That's comparable to that of its peers Li Auto and XPeng. However, Nio's ratio has improved significantly from around 10 in January 2021.NIO PS Ratio (Forward 1y). Data by YCharts.By comparison, BYD stock is trading at a price-to-sales ratio of around 3. As Nio is still not making profits, price-to-sales ratio is useful for comparing its valuation relative to its peers. A lower ratio is considered better.Again, Nio stock looks much better valued compared to stocks of U.S. EV companies, such as Rivian or Lucid, each of which has delivered only a few hundred vehicles so far.Apart from the domestic China market, Nio is targeting European markets for expansion. It started deliveries in Norway in September and is looking to enter five more countries in 2022. If successful, this expansion will establish Nio as a top EV maker that can meet global quality standards.Despite competition, Nio has been growing its sales so far. Its upcoming models, international growth plans, and innovative offerings positions it well for long-term growth. Growth prospects, combined with a relatively attractive valuation, makes Nio stock appealing right now.","news_type":1,"symbols_score_info":{"RMB":1,"NIO":1}},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":916,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}