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@HBONG:$SEMBCORP MARINE LTD(S51.SI)$For those who hold very little mother shares, and do not want to exercise the rights, but selling the rights incurred high brokerage fees, then an alternate solution is to sell away your mother shares at $0.086 and exercise your rights at $0.08 to bring you back to the same amount. You will gain $0.006 per share with this method. This method is a bit more complicated and maynot be suitable to everyone. DYODD.

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Investors always expect companies to exceed analyst projections, and when they get that result, they “sell the news.”</p>\n<p>The reaction among Wall Street analysts to the latest results is yet another sign of maturity. Mizuho analyst&nbsp;Vijay Rakesh&nbsp;raised his target for Tesla’s stock price by $5 to $825 following the news, for a bump of less than 1%.</p>\n<p>Back in January, RBC analyst&nbsp;Joe Spak&nbsp;raised his target price to $700 a share from $339 after changing how he thought about Tesla’s business. That was a huge target-price change from a large broker.</p>\n<p>Smaller changes in price targets can indicate a business is becoming more stable, and that analysts believe they have a grip on what is happening. That reduces the need for them to dramatically overhaul their views in response to events.</p>\n<p>Overall, the average&nbsp;analyst target price&nbsp;is up about $18, or 3%, in reaction to Monday’s results to about $644 a share. 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That is more evidence that Tesla is here to stay as the world’s most valuable car company.</p>","source":"lsy1601382232898","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Is a Mature Business. 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Don’t Look Now.\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-07-27 22:47 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-stock-mature-business-51627393369?mod=hp_LEADSUPP_1><strong>Barrons</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>The electric-vehicle company Tesla reported its best quarterly results ever Monday evening, but investors and analysts are greeting the news with measured optimism—a sign that Tesla is maturing as a ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-stock-mature-business-51627393369?mod=hp_LEADSUPP_1\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-stock-mature-business-51627393369?mod=hp_LEADSUPP_1","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1124516451","content_text":"The electric-vehicle company Tesla reported its best quarterly results ever Monday evening, but investors and analysts are greeting the news with measured optimism—a sign that Tesla is maturing as a company.\nTesla (ticker: TSLA) reported $1.45 in adjusted per-share earnings for the second quarter, far higher than the roughly 95 cents analysts were looking for. Sales from regulatory credits—a source of revenue seen as less sustainable than sales of vehicles—-fell, but operating profits rose to record highs because of strong profitability in the automotive division.\nTesla generates the credits by making more than its fair share of zero- emission cars and sells them to manufacturers that still rely on internal-combustion engines. Pessimists on the stock believe that source of income will dwindle over time.\nThe stock, however, was down 1.5% in early trading Tuesday. The S&P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average,for comparison, had fallen 0.6% and 0.4%, respectively.\nIt is a muted reaction to a good quarter, typical of the way stocks of mature businesses behave. Tesla stock moved more than 10% in response to three of the four 2019 quarterly reports. But it rose or fell an average of about 2.5% in response to the 2020 earnings reports.\nThe typical 2020 move was a fall in the price in response to news of better-than-expected results. The same thing happened after the release of results for the first quarter of 2021.\nThat is another sign of maturity. A small drop in response to better-than-expected results is the typical outcome for stocks. Investors always expect companies to exceed analyst projections, and when they get that result, they “sell the news.”\nThe reaction among Wall Street analysts to the latest results is yet another sign of maturity. Mizuho analyst Vijay Rakesh raised his target for Tesla’s stock price by $5 to $825 following the news, for a bump of less than 1%.\nBack in January, RBC analyst Joe Spak raised his target price to $700 a share from $339 after changing how he thought about Tesla’s business. That was a huge target-price change from a large broker.\nSmaller changes in price targets can indicate a business is becoming more stable, and that analysts believe they have a grip on what is happening. That reduces the need for them to dramatically overhaul their views in response to events.\nOverall, the average analyst target price is up about $18, or 3%, in reaction to Monday’s results to about $644 a share. Tesla shares are trading about 1% or 2% above the average analyst target price.\nTarget prices generally reflect where analysts think a stock should trade to earn a fair return out into the future. The average target price on stocks in the S&P 500 implies a gain of 7%.\nEven the fact that Tesla is trading around its average analyst target price is a sign of maturity. A year ago, the average target price for Tesla stock was about $225, while the price was above $300.\nShareholders and bulls on the stock might like a bigger response from the stock when earnings come in strong, but the days of 20% moves, up or down, might be gone for Tesla. That is more evidence that Tesla is here to stay as the world’s most valuable car company.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":144,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":803053168,"gmtCreate":1627397726454,"gmtModify":1703489218663,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Ok","listText":"Ok","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/803053168","repostId":"1185029173","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1185029173","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1627395062,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1185029173?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-07-27 22:11","market":"us","language":"en","title":"General Motors Vs. Tesla: Which Stock Is The Better Value?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1185029173","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Summary\n\nGM and TSLA are two very different companies, but both want to grow their EV presence massi","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>GM and TSLA are two very different companies, but both want to grow their EV presence massively.</li>\n <li>Management teams have highly ambitious goals, such as AV leadership (TSLA) and EV leadership (GM). Whether these goals will be achieved is a different story, however.</li>\n <li>The two companies could be attractive for different types of investors, but it may also make sense to stay on the sidelines here.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8b8dce2c00e6e99d840af7caf6aedbee\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"1024\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>gremlin/E+ via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>Article Thesis</b></p>\n<p>Auto companies are doing very well in the current environment, as strong demand for new cars and rising average sales prices will lead to strong profits in 2021. There are, however, vast differences between EV pure-plays such as Tesla, Inc. (TSLA), and legacy auto companies such as General Motors Company (GM). Even though GM has been moving into the EV direction in recent years, it is still primarily an ICE vehicle company, unlike Tesla, the current leader in the EV space. In this article, we will pitch these two companies against each other in order to find out what stock is more suitable for what type of investor.</p>\n<p><b>The Auto Industry: Cyclical, But Having Good Times Right Now</b></p>\n<p>There are industries that are very resilient versus all kinds of crises, such as software tech or healthcare, as their products are needed/required no matter what. The auto industry, on the other hand, is highly cyclical, as consumers only buy new cars when they have surplus liquidity and as long as they are not too worried about the future. On top of that, auto companies are also impacted to a significant degree by fluctuating prices for their end products and the commodities that are needed to build a vehicle.</p>\n<p>2020, not surprisingly, was a pretty bad year for most auto companies, as sales declined due to the impact of the pandemic. Tesla is somewhat of an outlier, as it did not report declining vehicle sales, thanks to ongoing market share gains for EVs in the US and globally. Nevertheless, even Tesla had a year of&nbsp;below-average growth&nbsp;in 2020. GM, for comparison, saw its revenue&nbsp;decline by around 10%&nbsp;in 2020.</p>\n<p>Thanks to massive fiscal and monetary stimulus, coupled with an ongoing economic recovery, the near-term outlook for the whole industry is way better than what we saw in 2020, however. Consumers have also reduced their spending on things such as travel, dining out, etc. which results in more available cash that can be used for buying a vehicle. Vehicle prices, for used cars and new ones, have risen&nbsp;quite a lot in 2021 so far, and combined with higher deliveries, that should result in strong profit growth for the whole industry. Both Tesla and General Motors should benefit from recovering automobile markets in 2021.</p>\n<p><b>GM Stock Valuation</b></p>\n<p>General Motors Company is, like most other legacy auto companies, trading at a pretty inexpensive valuation. This is the result of the cyclicality of the business, worries about the future, and generally relatively low growth rates for the industry. Based on current earnings per share estimates for 2021 and 2022, GM is valued at single-digit earnings multiples:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6ce5c76d5663ca2aa20801bf03412f50\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"450\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>GM trades for slightly less than 8x net profits, using 2021 estimates and 2022 estimates. The company is also looking very inexpensive on an enterprise value to EBITDA basis. The reading for this metric, which accounts for a company's debt, stands at just 6.7. Oftentimes, EV/EBITDA multiples of 10 and below are seen as inexpensive.</p>\n<p>We can also look at the cash flows that GM generates in order to gauge its valuation.In 2020, which was a pretty weak year for the company, GM generated an operating cash flow of $7.5 billion, while free cash flow totaled $2.6 billion. GM thus trades at 11x 2020's operating cash flow, while the 2020 free cash flow multiple is 31. Since 2020 was a way weaker year compared to what we can expect from 2021 and 2022, it seems pretty clear that cash flows will rise considerably going forward.</p>\n<p><b>TSLA Stock Valuation</b></p>\n<p>Tesla, unlike GM, is seen as a high-growth company deserving a significantly higher valuation than its legacy auto peers. This is, to some extent, certainly true -- Tesla has been delivering strong growth for years, and its business should continue to grow at a compelling pace going forward. Whether this does justify its current valuation is a different question, however.</p>\n<p>Based on current earnings per share estimates, Tesla is trading at the following earnings multiples:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/311f78f87c31f97c7afd8234ab9e310d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"450\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>Tesla, Inc. trades at 144x this year's expected EPS, and at 99x next year's net profits. Looking at the EV/EBITDA ratio, we see that the reading of 68 is very high as well -- almost exactly 10x as high as that of General Motors.</p>\n<p>In 2020, Tesla has generated operating cash flows of $5.9 billion, while its free cash flow totaled $2.8 billion during the same time. This pencils out to an operating cash flow multiple of 105, while the free cash flow multiple is 220. In other words, Tesla trades at an extremely high valuation, both in absolute terms, and relative to how its auto peers are valued. It seems noteworthy that Tesla's free cash flow, in absolute terms, was slightly<i>higher</i>than that of GM in 2020, which is certainly a feat for the EV pureplay. This is, however, partially the result of lower investments -- GM spent $5 billion on capital expenditures, while Tesla invested around $3 billion.</p>\n<p><b>Is GM A Better Stock Than Tesla?</b></p>\n<p>The answer depends on what you are looking for in an investment. Tesla clearly is the company that delivers higher relative growth, as it will grow sales by somewhere between 60%-80% this year, which is absolutely out of reach for all legacy auto companies, including GM. Tesla, on the other hand, is trading at an extremely high valuation - despite selling only around 500,000 vehicles last year, the company is valued at $620 billion, which is more than GM, Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY), Stellantis (STLA), and Toyota (TM) combined - these sell around 30 million vehicles a year, however (combined).</p>\n<p>Tesla is thus priced for massive growth right now, and its current market capitalization implies that the company will eventually sell 20 million, 30 million, or even more cars in a single year. There are bulls that believe that this will indeed come true, but I personally think that this is far from guaranteed. The legacy players, including GM, are ramping up their EV investments rapidly, and there is a large number of new EV startups, including companies such as NIO (NIO) or Lucid (LCID) that are looking to take market share from Tesla.</p>\n<p>I am convinced that Tesla will continue to see its sales rise in the coming years, but I doubt that Tesla will sell anything close to 10 million cars in 2025 -- one of&nbsp;the predictions by ARK(ARKK).</p>\n<p>Tesla's shares are also pricing in a successful autonomous vehicle business, even though Tesla's FSD model is still stuck at Level 2 autonomous, even while some other companies have Level 4 tech on the road. An investment in Tesla is thus, I think, a bet on AV tech and massive business growth. This could pay off, as it cannot be ruled out that Tesla will eventually prevail with its AV approach. For now, however, it looks like others are ahead of the company, such as Alphabet's (GOOG)(NASDAQ:GOOGL)Waymo.</p>\n<p>General Motors is much more of an old-school value investment right here - its growth prospects are less exciting, but its valuation is pretty inexpensive. GM plans&nbsp;to roll out around 30&nbsp;electric vehicles by 2025, on top of that, the company also has a stated goal of becoming the leader in the North American EV space. Ambitious investments of around $27 billion through 2025 will certainly allow for the introduction of new, attractive, and capable EV models, but it still seems far from guaranteed that GM will sell more EVs than Ford and Tesla in North America in 2025. Even if that does not happen, however, that would not necessarily be a disaster. The good thing about a value stock like GM is that not too many things have to go right for the company to be a viable investment.</p>\n<p>Whereas Tesla is priced for massive growth, GM is currently priced as if it will eventually go out of business. If the company manages to stabilize its earnings around the current level or grow them by a couple of percentage points, that could be enough for very solid returns from the current price, thanks to a pretty low starting valuation. GM currently does not pay any dividends, but if the company gets back to paying out $0.38 per share per quarter, as it did before the pandemic, investors would get a solid yield of 2.8%.</p>\n<p>Whether you prefer GM or Tesla thus ultimately depends on your investment approach --<i>do you prefer value or growth?</i>-- and on your belief in Elon Musk. If you think he will be able to pull off AV in a big way, Tesla might be the better choice for you. But if you think that one should invest based on what we see today, and not based on what might happen in the future, GM might be the better choice for you among these two. There is, of course, also the option to invest in both, or in neither, as a case can be made for avoiding the automobile industry altogether, due to the aforementioned cyclicality and high competitive pressures.</p>\n<p><b>Is GM Or TSLA A Good Stock To Buy Now?</b></p>\n<p>TSLA has managed to grow quickly and the business is throwing off solid amounts of cash, which is certainly a feat. But the company is priced for perfection, and I doubt we will see Tesla sell 5, 10, or 20 million cars in the foreseeable future. I thus personally would avoid the stock due to its excessively high valuation, but others will disagree on that and see a lot of potential value in things like Tesla's AV endeavors.</p>\n<p>GM is looking way more reasonably valued in comparison, but its future is also far from certain. It remains to be seen whether the company will be successful with its massive EV investments -- so far, it isn't. Becoming the EV leader is an ambitious goal, but as everyone knows, announcing such a goal does not necessarily make it happen. GM looks like the better choice among the two from a risk-to-potential-reward perspective to me, but I do not find it extremely attractive at current prices, either. Whether any of these stocks is a good fit for your portfolio thus depends on your investment approach, and what you think the management teams at the two companies will be able to pull off in the coming years.</p>\n<p>I personally think that growing competition in the EV space, coming from all sides (legacy auto, EV pure-plays, and tech companies), could spell trouble for the whole industry, as competition could pressure margins for all players. I thus do not want to invest in either of these companies right here, even though they&nbsp;<i>could</i>&nbsp;be very successful if management teams can pull off what they are indicating they want to do.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>General Motors Vs. 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Tesla: Which Stock Is The Better Value?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-07-27 22:11 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4441547-general-motors-vs-tesla-stock-better-value><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Summary\n\nGM and TSLA are two very different companies, but both want to grow their EV presence massively.\nManagement teams have highly ambitious goals, such as AV leadership (TSLA) and EV leadership (...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4441547-general-motors-vs-tesla-stock-better-value\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"GM":"通用汽车","TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4441547-general-motors-vs-tesla-stock-better-value","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1185029173","content_text":"Summary\n\nGM and TSLA are two very different companies, but both want to grow their EV presence massively.\nManagement teams have highly ambitious goals, such as AV leadership (TSLA) and EV leadership (GM). Whether these goals will be achieved is a different story, however.\nThe two companies could be attractive for different types of investors, but it may also make sense to stay on the sidelines here.\n\ngremlin/E+ via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nAuto companies are doing very well in the current environment, as strong demand for new cars and rising average sales prices will lead to strong profits in 2021. There are, however, vast differences between EV pure-plays such as Tesla, Inc. (TSLA), and legacy auto companies such as General Motors Company (GM). Even though GM has been moving into the EV direction in recent years, it is still primarily an ICE vehicle company, unlike Tesla, the current leader in the EV space. In this article, we will pitch these two companies against each other in order to find out what stock is more suitable for what type of investor.\nThe Auto Industry: Cyclical, But Having Good Times Right Now\nThere are industries that are very resilient versus all kinds of crises, such as software tech or healthcare, as their products are needed/required no matter what. The auto industry, on the other hand, is highly cyclical, as consumers only buy new cars when they have surplus liquidity and as long as they are not too worried about the future. On top of that, auto companies are also impacted to a significant degree by fluctuating prices for their end products and the commodities that are needed to build a vehicle.\n2020, not surprisingly, was a pretty bad year for most auto companies, as sales declined due to the impact of the pandemic. Tesla is somewhat of an outlier, as it did not report declining vehicle sales, thanks to ongoing market share gains for EVs in the US and globally. Nevertheless, even Tesla had a year of below-average growth in 2020. GM, for comparison, saw its revenue decline by around 10% in 2020.\nThanks to massive fiscal and monetary stimulus, coupled with an ongoing economic recovery, the near-term outlook for the whole industry is way better than what we saw in 2020, however. Consumers have also reduced their spending on things such as travel, dining out, etc. which results in more available cash that can be used for buying a vehicle. Vehicle prices, for used cars and new ones, have risen quite a lot in 2021 so far, and combined with higher deliveries, that should result in strong profit growth for the whole industry. Both Tesla and General Motors should benefit from recovering automobile markets in 2021.\nGM Stock Valuation\nGeneral Motors Company is, like most other legacy auto companies, trading at a pretty inexpensive valuation. This is the result of the cyclicality of the business, worries about the future, and generally relatively low growth rates for the industry. Based on current earnings per share estimates for 2021 and 2022, GM is valued at single-digit earnings multiples:\nData by YCharts\nGM trades for slightly less than 8x net profits, using 2021 estimates and 2022 estimates. The company is also looking very inexpensive on an enterprise value to EBITDA basis. The reading for this metric, which accounts for a company's debt, stands at just 6.7. Oftentimes, EV/EBITDA multiples of 10 and below are seen as inexpensive.\nWe can also look at the cash flows that GM generates in order to gauge its valuation.In 2020, which was a pretty weak year for the company, GM generated an operating cash flow of $7.5 billion, while free cash flow totaled $2.6 billion. GM thus trades at 11x 2020's operating cash flow, while the 2020 free cash flow multiple is 31. Since 2020 was a way weaker year compared to what we can expect from 2021 and 2022, it seems pretty clear that cash flows will rise considerably going forward.\nTSLA Stock Valuation\nTesla, unlike GM, is seen as a high-growth company deserving a significantly higher valuation than its legacy auto peers. This is, to some extent, certainly true -- Tesla has been delivering strong growth for years, and its business should continue to grow at a compelling pace going forward. Whether this does justify its current valuation is a different question, however.\nBased on current earnings per share estimates, Tesla is trading at the following earnings multiples:\nData by YCharts\nTesla, Inc. trades at 144x this year's expected EPS, and at 99x next year's net profits. Looking at the EV/EBITDA ratio, we see that the reading of 68 is very high as well -- almost exactly 10x as high as that of General Motors.\nIn 2020, Tesla has generated operating cash flows of $5.9 billion, while its free cash flow totaled $2.8 billion during the same time. This pencils out to an operating cash flow multiple of 105, while the free cash flow multiple is 220. In other words, Tesla trades at an extremely high valuation, both in absolute terms, and relative to how its auto peers are valued. It seems noteworthy that Tesla's free cash flow, in absolute terms, was slightlyhigherthan that of GM in 2020, which is certainly a feat for the EV pureplay. This is, however, partially the result of lower investments -- GM spent $5 billion on capital expenditures, while Tesla invested around $3 billion.\nIs GM A Better Stock Than Tesla?\nThe answer depends on what you are looking for in an investment. Tesla clearly is the company that delivers higher relative growth, as it will grow sales by somewhere between 60%-80% this year, which is absolutely out of reach for all legacy auto companies, including GM. Tesla, on the other hand, is trading at an extremely high valuation - despite selling only around 500,000 vehicles last year, the company is valued at $620 billion, which is more than GM, Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY), Stellantis (STLA), and Toyota (TM) combined - these sell around 30 million vehicles a year, however (combined).\nTesla is thus priced for massive growth right now, and its current market capitalization implies that the company will eventually sell 20 million, 30 million, or even more cars in a single year. There are bulls that believe that this will indeed come true, but I personally think that this is far from guaranteed. The legacy players, including GM, are ramping up their EV investments rapidly, and there is a large number of new EV startups, including companies such as NIO (NIO) or Lucid (LCID) that are looking to take market share from Tesla.\nI am convinced that Tesla will continue to see its sales rise in the coming years, but I doubt that Tesla will sell anything close to 10 million cars in 2025 -- one of the predictions by ARK(ARKK).\nTesla's shares are also pricing in a successful autonomous vehicle business, even though Tesla's FSD model is still stuck at Level 2 autonomous, even while some other companies have Level 4 tech on the road. An investment in Tesla is thus, I think, a bet on AV tech and massive business growth. This could pay off, as it cannot be ruled out that Tesla will eventually prevail with its AV approach. For now, however, it looks like others are ahead of the company, such as Alphabet's (GOOG)(NASDAQ:GOOGL)Waymo.\nGeneral Motors is much more of an old-school value investment right here - its growth prospects are less exciting, but its valuation is pretty inexpensive. GM plans to roll out around 30 electric vehicles by 2025, on top of that, the company also has a stated goal of becoming the leader in the North American EV space. Ambitious investments of around $27 billion through 2025 will certainly allow for the introduction of new, attractive, and capable EV models, but it still seems far from guaranteed that GM will sell more EVs than Ford and Tesla in North America in 2025. Even if that does not happen, however, that would not necessarily be a disaster. The good thing about a value stock like GM is that not too many things have to go right for the company to be a viable investment.\nWhereas Tesla is priced for massive growth, GM is currently priced as if it will eventually go out of business. If the company manages to stabilize its earnings around the current level or grow them by a couple of percentage points, that could be enough for very solid returns from the current price, thanks to a pretty low starting valuation. GM currently does not pay any dividends, but if the company gets back to paying out $0.38 per share per quarter, as it did before the pandemic, investors would get a solid yield of 2.8%.\nWhether you prefer GM or Tesla thus ultimately depends on your investment approach --do you prefer value or growth?-- and on your belief in Elon Musk. If you think he will be able to pull off AV in a big way, Tesla might be the better choice for you. But if you think that one should invest based on what we see today, and not based on what might happen in the future, GM might be the better choice for you among these two. There is, of course, also the option to invest in both, or in neither, as a case can be made for avoiding the automobile industry altogether, due to the aforementioned cyclicality and high competitive pressures.\nIs GM Or TSLA A Good Stock To Buy Now?\nTSLA has managed to grow quickly and the business is throwing off solid amounts of cash, which is certainly a feat. But the company is priced for perfection, and I doubt we will see Tesla sell 5, 10, or 20 million cars in the foreseeable future. I thus personally would avoid the stock due to its excessively high valuation, but others will disagree on that and see a lot of potential value in things like Tesla's AV endeavors.\nGM is looking way more reasonably valued in comparison, but its future is also far from certain. It remains to be seen whether the company will be successful with its massive EV investments -- so far, it isn't. Becoming the EV leader is an ambitious goal, but as everyone knows, announcing such a goal does not necessarily make it happen. GM looks like the better choice among the two from a risk-to-potential-reward perspective to me, but I do not find it extremely attractive at current prices, either. Whether any of these stocks is a good fit for your portfolio thus depends on your investment approach, and what you think the management teams at the two companies will be able to pull off in the coming years.\nI personally think that growing competition in the EV space, coming from all sides (legacy auto, EV pure-plays, and tech companies), could spell trouble for the whole industry, as competition could pressure margins for all players. I thus do not want to invest in either of these companies right here, even though they could be very successful if management teams can pull off what they are indicating they want to do.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":295,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":177912045,"gmtCreate":1627175363687,"gmtModify":1703485005646,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Like pls","listText":"Like pls","text":"Like pls","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/177912045","repostId":"1112927800","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1112927800","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1627089375,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1112927800?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-07-24 09:16","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Will NIO Stock Follow Tesla's Footsteps? What To Consider Between These Two EV Stocks","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1112927800","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Let's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.NIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly expensive relative to how Tesla is valued.NIO is not a low-risk stock, however, and it may not be a good choice for everyone. Investors should also consider NIO's valuation versus legacy car companies.Both companies have benefitted from growing interest in EVs during 2020, a trend that saw share prices of most EV p","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>Let's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.</li>\n <li>NIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly expensive relative to how Tesla is valued.</li>\n <li>NIO is not a low-risk stock, however, and it may not be a good choice for everyone. Investors should also consider NIO's valuation versus legacy car companies.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2f749c70c8a2af3e18d5f6cecc72bfbb\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"704\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>ipopba/iStock via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>Article Thesis</b></p>\n<p>NIO, Inc. (NIO) is one of China's leading EV players, and has, through an attractive brand and its unique BaaS offering, attracted a lot of interest from consumers and investors. Today, however, the company is still way smaller than Tesla (TSLA), which is currently leading the global EV market. NIO is focused on its home market right now, which was true when Tesla was a smaller company as well, but NIO will try to grab market share in overseas markets as well. Shares are pricing in a lot of growth already, but if NIO can replicate Tesla's success, that could be more than justified.</p>\n<p><b>NIO And TSLA Stock Prices</b></p>\n<p>Both companies have benefitted from growing interest in EVs during 2020, a trend that saw share prices of most EV pureplays rise rapidly. The combination of growing market share for EVs, accommodating policies such as subsidies for EV purchases, and massive monetary stimulus let shares of NIO and TSLA rise rapidly. NIO is up 245% over the last year, while TSLA is up 101% over the same time. Both companies are currently trading below their all-time highs, however, which were hit in early 2021 before market sentiment for EV pureplays cooled to some degree.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5ff5ce865807df85283775d2293b41af\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"481\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>Taking a quick look at analyst price targets, we see that Tesla is trading almost perfectly in line with the consensus, whereas NIO trades about 30% below the analyst target. If the analyst community is right, then NIO is a substantially better investment right here, as Tesla is not expected to see its shares rise meaningfully over the next year, whereas NIO has significant upside to the analyst price target.</p>\n<p><b>Is NIO Similar To Tesla?</b></p>\n<p>The answer to that question depends on what you focus on. There are similarities between the two companies, but there are also differences. One could thus say that, in some ways, the two are similar, but in others, they are not. Let's look at a couple of things:</p>\n<p><b>Business Model</b></p>\n<p>Both companies are focused on the EV space, although Tesla has, over the years, been building out a couple of other businesses as well, such as energy storage. Most of Tesla's revenues are generated through selling electric vehicles, which is also how NIO operates. Both companies are focused on the premium segment of EVs, selling higher-priced vehicles that compete with brands such as BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus. Both companies offer a small range of different vehicles, in Tesla's case those are the well-known S, X, 3, and Y, whereas NIO offers a sedan (ET7), and three SUVs (EC6, ES6, ES8). Despite the fact that NIO is a way smaller company today, the model lineups of the two companies do thus not differ too much.</p>\n<p>Both companies offer some type of charging infrastructure to their customers, in Tesla's case, that's the Supercharger network, where Tesla owners can charge their cars with up to 250kW, depending on what version of Supercharger is installed. NIO is following a different approach, offering a battery-as-a-service solution to its customers. NIO owners can get their battery switched out to a fully-charged battery at NIO's stations, a process that takes a couple of minutes and is thus significantly quicker compared to the regular EV charging offered by Tesla and other EV players. BaaS thus has advantages when it comes to the time it takes for a charge/swap, but it should be noted that Tesla's Superchargers are way more common around the world compared to NIO's battery-swapping stations. Rolling out that feature in additional markets will require large capital expenditures, but NIO's offering is a unique selling point compared to what all other EV players, including Tesla, are offering. It remains to be seen whether that will ultimately pay off, but this could become a major advantage for NIO as competition in the EV space is heating up.</p>\n<p><b>Size, growth, and valuation</b></p>\n<p>The two companies differ significantly in size, both when it comes to revenues and vehicle sales, as well as when it comes to the market value of the two companies. NIO has delivered22,000 vehicles in Q2, up 112% year over year, for an annual pace of around 90,000 vehicles. Tesla, meanwhile, has delivered 201,000 vehicles during Q2, up from 103,000 vehicles delivered during Q2 2020. This is strong growth on a year-over-year basis, although slightly below 100%, and thus below the growth rate that NIO is generating for now.</p>\n<p>Tesla delivers around 9x as many vehicles compared to NIO per quarter, when we look at the market capitalizations of the two companies, we see that the ratio is almost exactly the same, as Tesla's market cap of $640 billion is ~9x as high as that of NIO, at $72 billion. At similar growth rates, that would make perfect sense, but it looks like NIO might be the better deal for now, as it trades at a comparable valuation while generating better growth. This will be especially true in the coming quarters, where Tesla's growth is expected to slow down:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a986ea65130206f99961a46ce6cfed55\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"515\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>Tesla is forecasted to grow its revenue from $49 billion in 2021 to $83 billion in 2023, for an annual growth rate of 30%. NIO, meanwhile, is expected to see its revenue explode upwards from $5.4 billion to $12.8 billion between 2021 and 2023, for an annual growth rate of 54%. NIO is thus expected to grow way faster than Tesla over the next two years, on a relative basis. This shouldn't be a surprise, to be honest, as the law of large numbers dictates that maintaining massive growth rates becomes increasingly hard for a company the bigger it gets, and Tesla seems to have hit that point by now -- adding 50%+ a year to its top line will not be possible forever. This isn't even necessarily Tesla's fault, in fact, many high-quality growth companies have experienced the same. But investors should still consider this important fact -- Tesla's growth in coming years will be less exciting compared to what we have seen in the past, and peers, such as NIO, are growing faster.</p>\n<p>The same holds true when we take a longer-term view. Revenue estimates for 2025 rest at$22.6 billionfor NIO, up another 80% from the 2023 estimate, and up 320% from what analysts are forecasting for 2021. Tesla, meanwhile, is forecasted to generate revenues of $122.5 billion in 2025 -- a large number, but up by a comparatively weak 48% from 2023, and up by a total of 150% versus 2021. Between 2021 and 2025, NIO will thus 4x its revenue, while Tesla will 2.5x its revenue in the same time span -- a meaningful difference that should, all else equal, allow for a premium valuation for NIO, in the same way Tesla deserves a premium valuation versus legacy players such as Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY).</p>\n<p>Looking at revenue estimates for 2025 relative to how the two companies are valued today, we see that NIO trades at 3.2x 2025 sales, while the 2025 sales multiple for Tesla is 5.2. For a long-term oriented investor, NIO thus seems like the better value today, thanks to the fact that it is trading at a significantly lower sales multiple when we take a look into the future. This does not necessarily mean that NIO is cheap, however, as even a 3.2x 2025 sales multiple is relatively high compared to how legacy auto companies are valued. NIO is looking less expensive than Tesla, however, even if its shares are not cheap on an absolute basis.</p>\n<p><b>Can NIO Be Worth As Much As Tesla?</b></p>\n<p>The answer to that depends on what time frame you are looking at. Today, NIO is significantly smaller than Tesla and thus rightfully trades at a way smaller market cap. It should also be noted that there is no guarantee that Tesla's shares are a great example of how an EV company should be valued -- it is, at least, possible that its shares are significantly&nbsp;overpriced&nbsp;today, I personally believe that as well (Note that some will argue that shares are&nbsp;underpriced, which is also among the possibilities, although I do not hold that belief personally).</p>\n<p>When we do, for a moment, assume that Tesla is correctly valued today and that EV companies do deserve a market cap in the $600 billion range when they sell about 800,000 vehicles a year, then NIO could eventually hit that as well, although not in the near term. NIO will sell about 90,000 vehicles this year, and that amount should grow to about 400,000 in 2025. If NIO were to grow its sales by 15% a year beyond that point, it could sell around 800,000 cars in 2030, or 9 years from now. If one wants to assume faster growth, the 800,000 vehicles a year line could also be crossed before 2030, e.g. in 2028 or 2029. If we do go with 2030 for now, then NIO could, at a similar deliveries-to-market capitalization ratio to Tesla, be valued at $600+ billion in 2030. In other words, NIO could be worth as much as Tesla (today) in nine years, when we assume that current growth projections are realistic and that a Tesla-like valuation is appropriate. Those are two major ifs, of course, and especially the second point is far from certain, I believe. I personally would not be too surprised to see Tesla's valuation compress, and thus NIO could trade well below the $600 billion market cap level in 2030, even if it continues to grow meaningfully. It is also possible that NIO's growth disappoints and that current projections are too bullish, although I think that NIO is well-positioned for growth thanks to its unique BaaS model and its strong brand that is especially well-recognized in its home market.</p>\n<p>It should also be noted that Tesla's market cap in 2030 could be very different from $600 billion, thus even in case NIO hits that level, it is not at all guaranteed that the two companies will have a similar market cap. Tesla might be valued at a way higher valuation by then, e.g. if the ARK model is right (something I personally think is unlikely). To answer the above question, one could thus say that NIO might be worth hundreds of billions of dollars, like Tesla, in 8-10 years, but that is not at all guaranteed. And even if that were to happen, Tesla might be worth significantly more by then.</p>\n<p><b>Is NIO A Good Stock To Buy Or Sell Now?</b></p>\n<p>When considering NIO as an investment, it doesn't really matter all that much whether it will become as large or highly valued as Tesla eventually. Instead, investors should ask themselves what total returns they can expect over the next couple of years, and whether those expected returns are high enough relative to the risks in NIO's business model. Regarding those risks, one should mention the fact that the company isn't profitable yet, which means that NIO is dependent on cash on its balance sheet for growth investments. On top of that, competition in the EV space is growing, and market share battles could pressure margins in coming years, although NIO seems relatively well-positioned thanks to its battery-swapping, which is, I believe, a strong USP. Last but not least, the company's dependence on its home market China is a potential risk that should be kept in mind, although it should also be noted that, for now, it seems like the Chinese government is very accommodating to Chinese EV companies.</p>\n<p>One could argue that valuations across the whole EV industry are too high, relative to how legacy auto companies are valued. Even those legacy players with attractive EV offerings such as Volkswagen or Ford trade at huge discounts compared to EV pureplays. But if one wants to invest in an EV pureplay, NIO doesn't seem like a bad choice. The company combines a strong brand, a unique BaaS offering, high growth rates, and shares trade at a discount compared to how the EV king Tesla is valued. At a little above 3x 2025 revenue, NIO does not seem overly expensive relative to other EV pureplays, although this still represents a premium versus legacy players, of course. If NIO manages to execute well and continues to roll out new models that are well-received by consumers, its shares could have significant upside potential in the long run. If EV stocks ever become an out-of-favor investment, NIO stock also could have considerable downside, however, this thus is not a low-risk pick. Depending on your risk tolerance, NIO could still be of value if you want a high-growth EV pureplay.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Will NIO Stock Follow Tesla's Footsteps? 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What To Consider Between These Two EV Stocks\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-07-24 09:16 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4440950-will-nio-stock-follow-tesla-what-to-consider-ev-stocks><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Summary\n\nLet's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.\nNIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4440950-will-nio-stock-follow-tesla-what-to-consider-ev-stocks\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","NIO":"蔚来"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4440950-will-nio-stock-follow-tesla-what-to-consider-ev-stocks","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1112927800","content_text":"Summary\n\nLet's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.\nNIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly expensive relative to how Tesla is valued.\nNIO is not a low-risk stock, however, and it may not be a good choice for everyone. Investors should also consider NIO's valuation versus legacy car companies.\n\nipopba/iStock via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nNIO, Inc. (NIO) is one of China's leading EV players, and has, through an attractive brand and its unique BaaS offering, attracted a lot of interest from consumers and investors. Today, however, the company is still way smaller than Tesla (TSLA), which is currently leading the global EV market. NIO is focused on its home market right now, which was true when Tesla was a smaller company as well, but NIO will try to grab market share in overseas markets as well. Shares are pricing in a lot of growth already, but if NIO can replicate Tesla's success, that could be more than justified.\nNIO And TSLA Stock Prices\nBoth companies have benefitted from growing interest in EVs during 2020, a trend that saw share prices of most EV pureplays rise rapidly. The combination of growing market share for EVs, accommodating policies such as subsidies for EV purchases, and massive monetary stimulus let shares of NIO and TSLA rise rapidly. NIO is up 245% over the last year, while TSLA is up 101% over the same time. Both companies are currently trading below their all-time highs, however, which were hit in early 2021 before market sentiment for EV pureplays cooled to some degree.\nData by YCharts\nTaking a quick look at analyst price targets, we see that Tesla is trading almost perfectly in line with the consensus, whereas NIO trades about 30% below the analyst target. If the analyst community is right, then NIO is a substantially better investment right here, as Tesla is not expected to see its shares rise meaningfully over the next year, whereas NIO has significant upside to the analyst price target.\nIs NIO Similar To Tesla?\nThe answer to that question depends on what you focus on. There are similarities between the two companies, but there are also differences. One could thus say that, in some ways, the two are similar, but in others, they are not. Let's look at a couple of things:\nBusiness Model\nBoth companies are focused on the EV space, although Tesla has, over the years, been building out a couple of other businesses as well, such as energy storage. Most of Tesla's revenues are generated through selling electric vehicles, which is also how NIO operates. Both companies are focused on the premium segment of EVs, selling higher-priced vehicles that compete with brands such as BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus. Both companies offer a small range of different vehicles, in Tesla's case those are the well-known S, X, 3, and Y, whereas NIO offers a sedan (ET7), and three SUVs (EC6, ES6, ES8). Despite the fact that NIO is a way smaller company today, the model lineups of the two companies do thus not differ too much.\nBoth companies offer some type of charging infrastructure to their customers, in Tesla's case, that's the Supercharger network, where Tesla owners can charge their cars with up to 250kW, depending on what version of Supercharger is installed. NIO is following a different approach, offering a battery-as-a-service solution to its customers. NIO owners can get their battery switched out to a fully-charged battery at NIO's stations, a process that takes a couple of minutes and is thus significantly quicker compared to the regular EV charging offered by Tesla and other EV players. BaaS thus has advantages when it comes to the time it takes for a charge/swap, but it should be noted that Tesla's Superchargers are way more common around the world compared to NIO's battery-swapping stations. Rolling out that feature in additional markets will require large capital expenditures, but NIO's offering is a unique selling point compared to what all other EV players, including Tesla, are offering. It remains to be seen whether that will ultimately pay off, but this could become a major advantage for NIO as competition in the EV space is heating up.\nSize, growth, and valuation\nThe two companies differ significantly in size, both when it comes to revenues and vehicle sales, as well as when it comes to the market value of the two companies. NIO has delivered22,000 vehicles in Q2, up 112% year over year, for an annual pace of around 90,000 vehicles. Tesla, meanwhile, has delivered 201,000 vehicles during Q2, up from 103,000 vehicles delivered during Q2 2020. This is strong growth on a year-over-year basis, although slightly below 100%, and thus below the growth rate that NIO is generating for now.\nTesla delivers around 9x as many vehicles compared to NIO per quarter, when we look at the market capitalizations of the two companies, we see that the ratio is almost exactly the same, as Tesla's market cap of $640 billion is ~9x as high as that of NIO, at $72 billion. At similar growth rates, that would make perfect sense, but it looks like NIO might be the better deal for now, as it trades at a comparable valuation while generating better growth. This will be especially true in the coming quarters, where Tesla's growth is expected to slow down:\nData by YCharts\nTesla is forecasted to grow its revenue from $49 billion in 2021 to $83 billion in 2023, for an annual growth rate of 30%. NIO, meanwhile, is expected to see its revenue explode upwards from $5.4 billion to $12.8 billion between 2021 and 2023, for an annual growth rate of 54%. NIO is thus expected to grow way faster than Tesla over the next two years, on a relative basis. This shouldn't be a surprise, to be honest, as the law of large numbers dictates that maintaining massive growth rates becomes increasingly hard for a company the bigger it gets, and Tesla seems to have hit that point by now -- adding 50%+ a year to its top line will not be possible forever. This isn't even necessarily Tesla's fault, in fact, many high-quality growth companies have experienced the same. But investors should still consider this important fact -- Tesla's growth in coming years will be less exciting compared to what we have seen in the past, and peers, such as NIO, are growing faster.\nThe same holds true when we take a longer-term view. Revenue estimates for 2025 rest at$22.6 billionfor NIO, up another 80% from the 2023 estimate, and up 320% from what analysts are forecasting for 2021. Tesla, meanwhile, is forecasted to generate revenues of $122.5 billion in 2025 -- a large number, but up by a comparatively weak 48% from 2023, and up by a total of 150% versus 2021. Between 2021 and 2025, NIO will thus 4x its revenue, while Tesla will 2.5x its revenue in the same time span -- a meaningful difference that should, all else equal, allow for a premium valuation for NIO, in the same way Tesla deserves a premium valuation versus legacy players such as Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY).\nLooking at revenue estimates for 2025 relative to how the two companies are valued today, we see that NIO trades at 3.2x 2025 sales, while the 2025 sales multiple for Tesla is 5.2. For a long-term oriented investor, NIO thus seems like the better value today, thanks to the fact that it is trading at a significantly lower sales multiple when we take a look into the future. This does not necessarily mean that NIO is cheap, however, as even a 3.2x 2025 sales multiple is relatively high compared to how legacy auto companies are valued. NIO is looking less expensive than Tesla, however, even if its shares are not cheap on an absolute basis.\nCan NIO Be Worth As Much As Tesla?\nThe answer to that depends on what time frame you are looking at. Today, NIO is significantly smaller than Tesla and thus rightfully trades at a way smaller market cap. It should also be noted that there is no guarantee that Tesla's shares are a great example of how an EV company should be valued -- it is, at least, possible that its shares are significantly overpriced today, I personally believe that as well (Note that some will argue that shares are underpriced, which is also among the possibilities, although I do not hold that belief personally).\nWhen we do, for a moment, assume that Tesla is correctly valued today and that EV companies do deserve a market cap in the $600 billion range when they sell about 800,000 vehicles a year, then NIO could eventually hit that as well, although not in the near term. NIO will sell about 90,000 vehicles this year, and that amount should grow to about 400,000 in 2025. If NIO were to grow its sales by 15% a year beyond that point, it could sell around 800,000 cars in 2030, or 9 years from now. If one wants to assume faster growth, the 800,000 vehicles a year line could also be crossed before 2030, e.g. in 2028 or 2029. If we do go with 2030 for now, then NIO could, at a similar deliveries-to-market capitalization ratio to Tesla, be valued at $600+ billion in 2030. In other words, NIO could be worth as much as Tesla (today) in nine years, when we assume that current growth projections are realistic and that a Tesla-like valuation is appropriate. Those are two major ifs, of course, and especially the second point is far from certain, I believe. I personally would not be too surprised to see Tesla's valuation compress, and thus NIO could trade well below the $600 billion market cap level in 2030, even if it continues to grow meaningfully. It is also possible that NIO's growth disappoints and that current projections are too bullish, although I think that NIO is well-positioned for growth thanks to its unique BaaS model and its strong brand that is especially well-recognized in its home market.\nIt should also be noted that Tesla's market cap in 2030 could be very different from $600 billion, thus even in case NIO hits that level, it is not at all guaranteed that the two companies will have a similar market cap. Tesla might be valued at a way higher valuation by then, e.g. if the ARK model is right (something I personally think is unlikely). To answer the above question, one could thus say that NIO might be worth hundreds of billions of dollars, like Tesla, in 8-10 years, but that is not at all guaranteed. And even if that were to happen, Tesla might be worth significantly more by then.\nIs NIO A Good Stock To Buy Or Sell Now?\nWhen considering NIO as an investment, it doesn't really matter all that much whether it will become as large or highly valued as Tesla eventually. Instead, investors should ask themselves what total returns they can expect over the next couple of years, and whether those expected returns are high enough relative to the risks in NIO's business model. Regarding those risks, one should mention the fact that the company isn't profitable yet, which means that NIO is dependent on cash on its balance sheet for growth investments. On top of that, competition in the EV space is growing, and market share battles could pressure margins in coming years, although NIO seems relatively well-positioned thanks to its battery-swapping, which is, I believe, a strong USP. Last but not least, the company's dependence on its home market China is a potential risk that should be kept in mind, although it should also be noted that, for now, it seems like the Chinese government is very accommodating to Chinese EV companies.\nOne could argue that valuations across the whole EV industry are too high, relative to how legacy auto companies are valued. Even those legacy players with attractive EV offerings such as Volkswagen or Ford trade at huge discounts compared to EV pureplays. But if one wants to invest in an EV pureplay, NIO doesn't seem like a bad choice. The company combines a strong brand, a unique BaaS offering, high growth rates, and shares trade at a discount compared to how the EV king Tesla is valued. At a little above 3x 2025 revenue, NIO does not seem overly expensive relative to other EV pureplays, although this still represents a premium versus legacy players, of course. If NIO manages to execute well and continues to roll out new models that are well-received by consumers, its shares could have significant upside potential in the long run. If EV stocks ever become an out-of-favor investment, NIO stock also could have considerable downside, however, this thus is not a low-risk pick. Depending on your risk tolerance, NIO could still be of value if you want a high-growth EV pureplay.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":504,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":175027335,"gmtCreate":1626999502327,"gmtModify":1703482071538,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Hi","listText":"Hi","text":"Hi","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/175027335","repostId":"1158008489","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":297,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":176246517,"gmtCreate":1626902184339,"gmtModify":1703480103091,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Hi","listText":"Hi","text":"Hi","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/176246517","repostId":"1162279901","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":285,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":142103260,"gmtCreate":1626134935250,"gmtModify":1703753925303,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Good","listText":"Good","text":"Good","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/142103260","repostId":"1144812338","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1144812338","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1626134605,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1144812338?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-07-13 08:03","market":"us","language":"en","title":"The Fed's Complete Taper Timeline","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1144812338","media":"zerohedge","summary":"Commenting on the Fed's recent communications debacle, Bank of America economist Michelle Meyer writ","content":"<p>Commenting on the Fed's recent communications debacle, Bank of America economist Michelle Meyer writes that the Fed was getting high marks for its communication \"up until the last meeting where the message got jumbled.\" Specifically, in light of the stunned market reaction following the last meeting, many commentators declared that the Fed had abandoned Flexible Average Inflation Targeting (FAIT), which Meyer strongly disagree with, conceding that while a growing number of Fed officials have become uncomfortable with rising inflation and are looking to remove accommodation faster, the reality is that Chair Powell and the majority of the Committee have not given up on FAIT. Indeed, Meyer notes, \"the gut reaction of the markets pulling forward rates hikes to 4Q 22 following the last meeting proved fleeting as the market has subsequently pushed out the first hike back to 1Q23.\"</p>\n<p>To help navigate the Fed's communication error, Meyer provides a guide for understanding the Fed’s (latest) reaction function and communication.</p>\n<p><b>First, the Taper</b></p>\n<p>Here Chair Powell has been crystal clear: the Fed will slowly guide the markets toward the taper. BofA shows the taper timeline in the chart below, with its expectations overlaid.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3d762173d94ce966d288af0927ed478c\" tg-width=\"1205\" tg-height=\"359\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>While Meyer concedes that it is possible for the Fed to signal tapering at the upcoming meeting in July, the BofA economist remain doubtful.<b>The reason to wait is that the market isn’t pricing in the announcement at this meeting, and the Fed wouldn’t want to risk surprising the market.</b>In the last meeting, Powell stated that taper was still “a ways away”. But on the other hand, they have been providing hints that an earlier move is possible, and the surprise will be minimal. Financial conditions are also very accommodative with yields significantly lower making it less painful if rates reset higher upon a taper announcement. Combining these two, BofA thinks it is much more likely that they signal in September.</p>\n<p>There is also a risk of the Fed pulling forward the actual taper from BofA's current forecast of January to perhaps December or even November.<b>This depends on how much quantitative guidance the Fed offers along with the taper signal.</b>According to Meyer, if the Fed is clear that they want to see a certain amount of job creation in order to taper - such as a range for the employment-to-population ratio or progress on the jobs deficit - it will be easier to wait to execute taper. Another option would be to offer calendar guidance but this seems to run counter to Powell’s desire for policy to be “outcome based” rather than “outlook based.” If the Fed keeps the language vague arguing for “substantial further progress”, it seems to leave options open.</p>\n<p><b>What about hikes</b></p>\n<p>The Fed laid out the criteria to hike rates as three-fold:</p>\n<ol>\n <li><b>inflation needs to reach 2% and stay there for a year;</b></li>\n <li><b>conditions be met to believe that inflation can run moderately above 2% allowing for the overshoot to offset the undershoot;</b></li>\n <li><b>maximum employment to be met with broad-based labor market recovery.</b></li>\n</ol>\n<p>The first has been satisfied. We are on the way to meeting the second, although doubts remain - especially among the FOMC - given the potential transitory nature of inflation. The third criteria hasn’t been satisfied and also a likely needed for the second to be met.</p>\n<p>The challenge, as Meyer explains, with declaring victory on the inflation overshoot is that we are vulnerable to inflation falling back below the target – at least temporarily – next year. For simplicity, let’s focus on the biggest source of transitory inflation: vehicles (defined here as used cars and trucks, rental cars and new vehicles). This makes up around 5% of core PCE. Over the last two months, about 40bp of the 1.2% gain in core PCE owed to these categories. To put this into perspective, if these categories were unchanged, core PCE would have been 0.48% mom in April (2.9% yoy) and 0.31% in May (3.0% yoy). For illustrative purposes, BofA also ran scenarios for %yoy core PCE inflation through next year based on the following paths for car prices: full mean reversion to preCOVID levels, 50% reversal and 25% reversal, assuming trend core inflation of 2.0% in all other categories. This would lead to core PCE of 1.3%, 1.6%, and 1.8%, respectively, as shown on the chart below.<b>This shows the sensitivity of inflation to a singular volatile category.</b></p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a4c7e3244a3f667a109b3b32257842ff\" tg-width=\"614\" tg-height=\"510\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>The path toward maximum employment is also uncertain for two reasons:</p>\n<ol>\n <li>it is unclear how much of the decline in the labor force will prove permanent; and</li>\n <li>the Fed has changed the definition of maximum employment.</li>\n</ol>\n<p>For the former, BofA has previously estimated that the vast majority of those that dropped out of the labor force will be able to return with about half of the decline likely directly attributable to the pandemic. However,<b>about 1.2 million reflects earlier retirement which is unlikely reversible.</b>This will make it more challenging to fully recover the employment-to-population ratio (EPOP). Perhaps a work-around is to look for the prime-working age EPOP to<b>return to pre-pandemic levels which can be achieved by March 2022 based on BofA's employment forecasts which currently is looking for a cumulative 5.9mn jobs to be created by 1Q 2022</b>.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4f782420c64c9d0bcc2f0472be6c6f43\" tg-width=\"581\" tg-height=\"510\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>The other consideration mentioned by BofA,<b>is that the Fed has changed its definition for maximum employment to be broad-based and \"inclusive.\"</b>This means that the recovery in the EPOP has to be felt throughout the population particularly for the most economically challenged cohort, i.e.,<b>no hikes until there is a surge in black employment</b>. To achieve this, it will require an even tighter labor market where the “fringe” of the labor market is offered greater opportunities. This in particular calls for the prime-age EPOP to exceed pre-pandemic levels, further pushing out when the Fed might declare victory. And since it is the minority workers who have repeatedly stated they will not return to the labor force unless they get far more preferential terms,<b>it is almost as if the Fed has engineered the current reaction function to one where it will continue to ease indefinitely and blame lack of \"recovery\" on black jobs for its refusal to stop the easing, as if injecting $120BN per month will somehow result in more black workers getting hired!</b></p>\n<p><b>The Committee: divided</b></p>\n<p>Last but not least, there is a growing divide on the Committee which complicates forward guidance. As of the June meeting there were 7 FOMC officials who expected hikes to start in 2022. According to BofA,<b>all of these officials are regional Fed Presidents</b>, some of whom have never fully embraced FAIT (below is Bloomberg's assumption of who is who on the dot plot).</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d638c3c8a49237058a24159586030dba\" tg-width=\"1280\" tg-height=\"690\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"></p>\n<p>And so, with the economy running strong and inflation pressures building – at least on the surface – these Fed officials are getting ready to remove accommodation. As BofA notes, this makes sense....<b>if you are still operating in the old regime:</b>remember that the Fed hiked rates for the first time with core PCE inflation well below target. The view was that it was preferable to slowly normalize policy based on expectations of future inflation and growth to avoid having to hike quickly and destabilize the recovery. Hence the challenge with keeping the new framework “flexible”. BofA believes the “core” of the Committee –<i><b>Powell, Brainard and Clarida</b></i>– are much more influential in setting the course for policy. The Board of Governors and NY Fed President Williams will generally be in agreement. It is this group that is still strongly committed to FAIT with more than a token overshoot of the 2% target, preferring to err on the side of too much rather than too little inflation. Moreover, they might not be as concerned about higher inflation: indeed, the Board staff forecast shows a slower trajectory for inflation based on the latest FOMC minutes. The Committee members’ voices will be heard and can influence the decisions of the FOMC with the force of their arguments. As such, Meyer's advice is to pay more attention to the centrist members of the FOMC – such as Bostic and Harker – whose arguments could resonate with the Board.</p>\n<p><b>Finally, markets, where we have seen a big moves in rates</b></p>\n<p>The bond market has had a significant rally; at 1.30% the 10-year is back to mid-February levels. In fact, the curve has also flattened significantly in a way that typically doesn’t happen until the hiking cycle has started. So what gives? According to BofA's in house rates expert, Mark Cabana, the move is partly technical, driven by investors closing out short positions and trend-following hedge funds exacerbating rate moves. But it could also reflect the market becoming increasingly worried about structurally lower growth and inflation once the cyclical lift fades. It may also be that the market is doubting the Fed’s resolve to overheat the economy and facilitate higher inflation. For what it's worth, Meyer says that while the former is a reasonable argument, she strongly disagrees with the argument that the Fed has already blinked. That's because Powell has been setting the stage for this new framework even before the pandemic - which was a welcome catalyst to implement FAIT - and sees this as a chance to reset monetary policy.</p>\n<p>In short: expect the flood of liquidity to continue for a long, long time.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>The Fed's Complete Taper Timeline</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThe Fed's Complete Taper Timeline\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-07-13 08:03 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/feds-complete-taper-timeline><strong>zerohedge</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Commenting on the Fed's recent communications debacle, Bank of America economist Michelle Meyer writes that the Fed was getting high marks for its communication \"up until the last meeting where the ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/feds-complete-taper-timeline\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".SPX":"S&P 500 Index",".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite","SPY":"标普500ETF",".DJI":"道琼斯"},"source_url":"https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/feds-complete-taper-timeline","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1144812338","content_text":"Commenting on the Fed's recent communications debacle, Bank of America economist Michelle Meyer writes that the Fed was getting high marks for its communication \"up until the last meeting where the message got jumbled.\" Specifically, in light of the stunned market reaction following the last meeting, many commentators declared that the Fed had abandoned Flexible Average Inflation Targeting (FAIT), which Meyer strongly disagree with, conceding that while a growing number of Fed officials have become uncomfortable with rising inflation and are looking to remove accommodation faster, the reality is that Chair Powell and the majority of the Committee have not given up on FAIT. Indeed, Meyer notes, \"the gut reaction of the markets pulling forward rates hikes to 4Q 22 following the last meeting proved fleeting as the market has subsequently pushed out the first hike back to 1Q23.\"\nTo help navigate the Fed's communication error, Meyer provides a guide for understanding the Fed’s (latest) reaction function and communication.\nFirst, the Taper\nHere Chair Powell has been crystal clear: the Fed will slowly guide the markets toward the taper. BofA shows the taper timeline in the chart below, with its expectations overlaid.\n\nWhile Meyer concedes that it is possible for the Fed to signal tapering at the upcoming meeting in July, the BofA economist remain doubtful.The reason to wait is that the market isn’t pricing in the announcement at this meeting, and the Fed wouldn’t want to risk surprising the market.In the last meeting, Powell stated that taper was still “a ways away”. But on the other hand, they have been providing hints that an earlier move is possible, and the surprise will be minimal. Financial conditions are also very accommodative with yields significantly lower making it less painful if rates reset higher upon a taper announcement. Combining these two, BofA thinks it is much more likely that they signal in September.\nThere is also a risk of the Fed pulling forward the actual taper from BofA's current forecast of January to perhaps December or even November.This depends on how much quantitative guidance the Fed offers along with the taper signal.According to Meyer, if the Fed is clear that they want to see a certain amount of job creation in order to taper - such as a range for the employment-to-population ratio or progress on the jobs deficit - it will be easier to wait to execute taper. Another option would be to offer calendar guidance but this seems to run counter to Powell’s desire for policy to be “outcome based” rather than “outlook based.” If the Fed keeps the language vague arguing for “substantial further progress”, it seems to leave options open.\nWhat about hikes\nThe Fed laid out the criteria to hike rates as three-fold:\n\ninflation needs to reach 2% and stay there for a year;\nconditions be met to believe that inflation can run moderately above 2% allowing for the overshoot to offset the undershoot;\nmaximum employment to be met with broad-based labor market recovery.\n\nThe first has been satisfied. We are on the way to meeting the second, although doubts remain - especially among the FOMC - given the potential transitory nature of inflation. The third criteria hasn’t been satisfied and also a likely needed for the second to be met.\nThe challenge, as Meyer explains, with declaring victory on the inflation overshoot is that we are vulnerable to inflation falling back below the target – at least temporarily – next year. For simplicity, let’s focus on the biggest source of transitory inflation: vehicles (defined here as used cars and trucks, rental cars and new vehicles). This makes up around 5% of core PCE. Over the last two months, about 40bp of the 1.2% gain in core PCE owed to these categories. To put this into perspective, if these categories were unchanged, core PCE would have been 0.48% mom in April (2.9% yoy) and 0.31% in May (3.0% yoy). For illustrative purposes, BofA also ran scenarios for %yoy core PCE inflation through next year based on the following paths for car prices: full mean reversion to preCOVID levels, 50% reversal and 25% reversal, assuming trend core inflation of 2.0% in all other categories. This would lead to core PCE of 1.3%, 1.6%, and 1.8%, respectively, as shown on the chart below.This shows the sensitivity of inflation to a singular volatile category.\n\nThe path toward maximum employment is also uncertain for two reasons:\n\nit is unclear how much of the decline in the labor force will prove permanent; and\nthe Fed has changed the definition of maximum employment.\n\nFor the former, BofA has previously estimated that the vast majority of those that dropped out of the labor force will be able to return with about half of the decline likely directly attributable to the pandemic. However,about 1.2 million reflects earlier retirement which is unlikely reversible.This will make it more challenging to fully recover the employment-to-population ratio (EPOP). Perhaps a work-around is to look for the prime-working age EPOP toreturn to pre-pandemic levels which can be achieved by March 2022 based on BofA's employment forecasts which currently is looking for a cumulative 5.9mn jobs to be created by 1Q 2022.\n\nThe other consideration mentioned by BofA,is that the Fed has changed its definition for maximum employment to be broad-based and \"inclusive.\"This means that the recovery in the EPOP has to be felt throughout the population particularly for the most economically challenged cohort, i.e.,no hikes until there is a surge in black employment. To achieve this, it will require an even tighter labor market where the “fringe” of the labor market is offered greater opportunities. This in particular calls for the prime-age EPOP to exceed pre-pandemic levels, further pushing out when the Fed might declare victory. And since it is the minority workers who have repeatedly stated they will not return to the labor force unless they get far more preferential terms,it is almost as if the Fed has engineered the current reaction function to one where it will continue to ease indefinitely and blame lack of \"recovery\" on black jobs for its refusal to stop the easing, as if injecting $120BN per month will somehow result in more black workers getting hired!\nThe Committee: divided\nLast but not least, there is a growing divide on the Committee which complicates forward guidance. As of the June meeting there were 7 FOMC officials who expected hikes to start in 2022. According to BofA,all of these officials are regional Fed Presidents, some of whom have never fully embraced FAIT (below is Bloomberg's assumption of who is who on the dot plot).\n\nAnd so, with the economy running strong and inflation pressures building – at least on the surface – these Fed officials are getting ready to remove accommodation. As BofA notes, this makes sense....if you are still operating in the old regime:remember that the Fed hiked rates for the first time with core PCE inflation well below target. The view was that it was preferable to slowly normalize policy based on expectations of future inflation and growth to avoid having to hike quickly and destabilize the recovery. Hence the challenge with keeping the new framework “flexible”. BofA believes the “core” of the Committee –Powell, Brainard and Clarida– are much more influential in setting the course for policy. The Board of Governors and NY Fed President Williams will generally be in agreement. It is this group that is still strongly committed to FAIT with more than a token overshoot of the 2% target, preferring to err on the side of too much rather than too little inflation. Moreover, they might not be as concerned about higher inflation: indeed, the Board staff forecast shows a slower trajectory for inflation based on the latest FOMC minutes. The Committee members’ voices will be heard and can influence the decisions of the FOMC with the force of their arguments. As such, Meyer's advice is to pay more attention to the centrist members of the FOMC – such as Bostic and Harker – whose arguments could resonate with the Board.\nFinally, markets, where we have seen a big moves in rates\nThe bond market has had a significant rally; at 1.30% the 10-year is back to mid-February levels. In fact, the curve has also flattened significantly in a way that typically doesn’t happen until the hiking cycle has started. So what gives? According to BofA's in house rates expert, Mark Cabana, the move is partly technical, driven by investors closing out short positions and trend-following hedge funds exacerbating rate moves. But it could also reflect the market becoming increasingly worried about structurally lower growth and inflation once the cyclical lift fades. It may also be that the market is doubting the Fed’s resolve to overheat the economy and facilitate higher inflation. For what it's worth, Meyer says that while the former is a reasonable argument, she strongly disagrees with the argument that the Fed has already blinked. That's because Powell has been setting the stage for this new framework even before the pandemic - which was a welcome catalyst to implement FAIT - and sees this as a chance to reset monetary policy.\nIn short: expect the flood of liquidity to continue for a long, long time.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":273,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":143181575,"gmtCreate":1625781546697,"gmtModify":1703748274750,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Hi","listText":"Hi","text":"Hi","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/143181575","repostId":"2149328960","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2149328960","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Reuters.com brings you the latest news from around the world, covering breaking news in markets, business, politics, entertainment and technology","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Reuters","id":"1036604489","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868"},"pubTimestamp":1625756309,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2149328960?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-07-08 22:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Wells Fargo Tells Customers It's Shuttering All Personal Lines Of Credit","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2149328960","media":"Reuters","summary":"Wells Fargo is ending a popular consumer lending product, angering some of its customers, CNBC has l","content":"<p>Wells Fargo&nbsp;is ending a popular consumer lending product, angering some of its customers, CNBC has learned.</p>\n<p>The bank is shutting down all existing personal lines of credit in coming weeks and no longer offers the product, according to customer letters reviewed by CNBC.</p>\n<p>The revolving credit lines, which typically let users borrow $3,000 to $100,000, were pitched as a way to consolidate higher-interest credit-card debt, pay for home renovations or avoid overdraft fees on linked checking accounts.</p>\n<p>\"Wells Fargo recently reviewed its product offerings and decided to discontinue offering new Personal and Portfolio line of credit accounts and close all existing accounts,\" the bank said in the six-page letter. The move would let the bank focus on credit cards and personal loans, it said.</p>\n<p>Wells Fargo CEOCharles Scharfhas been forced to make difficult decisions during the pandemic,offloadingassets and deposits and stepping back from some products because of limitations imposed by the Federal Reserve. In 2018, the Fed barred Wells Fargo from growing its balance sheet until it fixes compliance shortcomings revealed by thebank's fake accounts scandal.</p>\n<p>The asset cap has ultimately cost the bank billions of dollars in lost earnings, based on the balance sheet growth of rivals includingJPMorgan ChaseandBank of Americaover the past three years, analysts havesaid.</p>\n<p>It has also affected Wells Fargo's customers: Last year, the lender told staff it washalting allnew home equity lines of credit, CNBC reported. Months later, the bank also withdrew from a segment of theauto lending business.</p>\n<p>With its latest move, Wells Fargo warned customers that the account closures \"may have an impact on your credit score,\" according to a Frequently Asked Questions segment of the letter.</p>\n<p>Another part of the FAQ asserted that the account closures couldn't be reviewed or reversed: \"We apologize for the inconvenience this Line of Credit closure will cause,\" the bank said. \"The account closure is final.\"</p>\n<p>\"Simplify offerings\"</p>\n<p>Wells Fargo didn't directly answer questions as to what role, if any, the Fed asset cap played in its latest move.</p>\n<p>The bank gave this statement: \"In an effort to simplify our product offerings, we've made the decision to no longer offer personal lines of credit as we feel we can better meet the borrowing needs of our customers through credit card and personal loan products.\"</p>\n<p>Customers have been given a 60-day notice that their accounts will be shuttered, and remaining balances will require regular minimum payments, according to the statement.</p>\n<p>The move is a strange one given the banking industry's need to boost loan growth.</p>\n<p>After a burst of commercial lending during the early days of the pandemic, loan growth has been hard to muster. Corporations have used money raised in stock and debt issuance to retire bank credit lines, and consumers stuck at home had fewer reasons to use credit cards.</p>\n<p>In fact, last year big banks experienced the first aggregate drop in loans in more than a decade,accordingto Barclays bank analyst Jason Goldberg. Of the four largest U.S. banks, Wells Fargo saw the worst decline.</p>\n<p>After banks saw that borrowers held up far better than they had initially feared, the industry recently began marketingnew credit cardswith large sign-on bonuses in an effort to boost lending.</p>\n<p>Making the switch</p>\n<p>Wells Fargo doesn't disclose how many customers used the credit lines it is eliminating. It had$24.9 billionin loans in a category called \"other consumer\" as of March, which was 26% lower than the year-earlier period.</p>\n<p>One customer said the change is prompting him to switch banks after more than a decade with Wells Fargo. Tim Tomassi, a Portland, Oregon programmer, said that he used a personal line of credit linked to his checking account to avoid expensive overdraft fees.</p>\n<p>\"It's a bit upsetting,\" Tomassi said in a phone interview. \"They're a big bank, and I'm a small person, and it feels like they're making decisions for their bottom line and not for customers. A lot of people are in my position, they need a cushion every once in a while from a line of credit.\"</p>\n<p>Tomassi said he is considering opening an account at&nbsp;Allyor&nbsp;Chime, banking players that don't chargeoverdraft fees.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Wells Fargo Tells Customers It's Shuttering All Personal Lines Of Credit</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWells Fargo Tells Customers It's Shuttering All Personal Lines Of Credit\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1036604489\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Reuters </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2021-07-08 22:58</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Wells Fargo&nbsp;is ending a popular consumer lending product, angering some of its customers, CNBC has learned.</p>\n<p>The bank is shutting down all existing personal lines of credit in coming weeks and no longer offers the product, according to customer letters reviewed by CNBC.</p>\n<p>The revolving credit lines, which typically let users borrow $3,000 to $100,000, were pitched as a way to consolidate higher-interest credit-card debt, pay for home renovations or avoid overdraft fees on linked checking accounts.</p>\n<p>\"Wells Fargo recently reviewed its product offerings and decided to discontinue offering new Personal and Portfolio line of credit accounts and close all existing accounts,\" the bank said in the six-page letter. The move would let the bank focus on credit cards and personal loans, it said.</p>\n<p>Wells Fargo CEOCharles Scharfhas been forced to make difficult decisions during the pandemic,offloadingassets and deposits and stepping back from some products because of limitations imposed by the Federal Reserve. In 2018, the Fed barred Wells Fargo from growing its balance sheet until it fixes compliance shortcomings revealed by thebank's fake accounts scandal.</p>\n<p>The asset cap has ultimately cost the bank billions of dollars in lost earnings, based on the balance sheet growth of rivals includingJPMorgan ChaseandBank of Americaover the past three years, analysts havesaid.</p>\n<p>It has also affected Wells Fargo's customers: Last year, the lender told staff it washalting allnew home equity lines of credit, CNBC reported. Months later, the bank also withdrew from a segment of theauto lending business.</p>\n<p>With its latest move, Wells Fargo warned customers that the account closures \"may have an impact on your credit score,\" according to a Frequently Asked Questions segment of the letter.</p>\n<p>Another part of the FAQ asserted that the account closures couldn't be reviewed or reversed: \"We apologize for the inconvenience this Line of Credit closure will cause,\" the bank said. \"The account closure is final.\"</p>\n<p>\"Simplify offerings\"</p>\n<p>Wells Fargo didn't directly answer questions as to what role, if any, the Fed asset cap played in its latest move.</p>\n<p>The bank gave this statement: \"In an effort to simplify our product offerings, we've made the decision to no longer offer personal lines of credit as we feel we can better meet the borrowing needs of our customers through credit card and personal loan products.\"</p>\n<p>Customers have been given a 60-day notice that their accounts will be shuttered, and remaining balances will require regular minimum payments, according to the statement.</p>\n<p>The move is a strange one given the banking industry's need to boost loan growth.</p>\n<p>After a burst of commercial lending during the early days of the pandemic, loan growth has been hard to muster. Corporations have used money raised in stock and debt issuance to retire bank credit lines, and consumers stuck at home had fewer reasons to use credit cards.</p>\n<p>In fact, last year big banks experienced the first aggregate drop in loans in more than a decade,accordingto Barclays bank analyst Jason Goldberg. Of the four largest U.S. banks, Wells Fargo saw the worst decline.</p>\n<p>After banks saw that borrowers held up far better than they had initially feared, the industry recently began marketingnew credit cardswith large sign-on bonuses in an effort to boost lending.</p>\n<p>Making the switch</p>\n<p>Wells Fargo doesn't disclose how many customers used the credit lines it is eliminating. It had$24.9 billionin loans in a category called \"other consumer\" as of March, which was 26% lower than the year-earlier period.</p>\n<p>One customer said the change is prompting him to switch banks after more than a decade with Wells Fargo. Tim Tomassi, a Portland, Oregon programmer, said that he used a personal line of credit linked to his checking account to avoid expensive overdraft fees.</p>\n<p>\"It's a bit upsetting,\" Tomassi said in a phone interview. \"They're a big bank, and I'm a small person, and it feels like they're making decisions for their bottom line and not for customers. A lot of people are in my position, they need a cushion every once in a while from a line of credit.\"</p>\n<p>Tomassi said he is considering opening an account at&nbsp;Allyor&nbsp;Chime, banking players that don't chargeoverdraft fees.</p>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"CUBI":"Customers Bancorp Inc.","WFC":"富国银行"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2149328960","content_text":"Wells Fargo is ending a popular consumer lending product, angering some of its customers, CNBC has learned.\nThe bank is shutting down all existing personal lines of credit in coming weeks and no longer offers the product, according to customer letters reviewed by CNBC.\nThe revolving credit lines, which typically let users borrow $3,000 to $100,000, were pitched as a way to consolidate higher-interest credit-card debt, pay for home renovations or avoid overdraft fees on linked checking accounts.\n\"Wells Fargo recently reviewed its product offerings and decided to discontinue offering new Personal and Portfolio line of credit accounts and close all existing accounts,\" the bank said in the six-page letter. The move would let the bank focus on credit cards and personal loans, it said.\nWells Fargo CEOCharles Scharfhas been forced to make difficult decisions during the pandemic,offloadingassets and deposits and stepping back from some products because of limitations imposed by the Federal Reserve. In 2018, the Fed barred Wells Fargo from growing its balance sheet until it fixes compliance shortcomings revealed by thebank's fake accounts scandal.\nThe asset cap has ultimately cost the bank billions of dollars in lost earnings, based on the balance sheet growth of rivals includingJPMorgan ChaseandBank of Americaover the past three years, analysts havesaid.\nIt has also affected Wells Fargo's customers: Last year, the lender told staff it washalting allnew home equity lines of credit, CNBC reported. Months later, the bank also withdrew from a segment of theauto lending business.\nWith its latest move, Wells Fargo warned customers that the account closures \"may have an impact on your credit score,\" according to a Frequently Asked Questions segment of the letter.\nAnother part of the FAQ asserted that the account closures couldn't be reviewed or reversed: \"We apologize for the inconvenience this Line of Credit closure will cause,\" the bank said. \"The account closure is final.\"\n\"Simplify offerings\"\nWells Fargo didn't directly answer questions as to what role, if any, the Fed asset cap played in its latest move.\nThe bank gave this statement: \"In an effort to simplify our product offerings, we've made the decision to no longer offer personal lines of credit as we feel we can better meet the borrowing needs of our customers through credit card and personal loan products.\"\nCustomers have been given a 60-day notice that their accounts will be shuttered, and remaining balances will require regular minimum payments, according to the statement.\nThe move is a strange one given the banking industry's need to boost loan growth.\nAfter a burst of commercial lending during the early days of the pandemic, loan growth has been hard to muster. Corporations have used money raised in stock and debt issuance to retire bank credit lines, and consumers stuck at home had fewer reasons to use credit cards.\nIn fact, last year big banks experienced the first aggregate drop in loans in more than a decade,accordingto Barclays bank analyst Jason Goldberg. Of the four largest U.S. banks, Wells Fargo saw the worst decline.\nAfter banks saw that borrowers held up far better than they had initially feared, the industry recently began marketingnew credit cardswith large sign-on bonuses in an effort to boost lending.\nMaking the switch\nWells Fargo doesn't disclose how many customers used the credit lines it is eliminating. It had$24.9 billionin loans in a category called \"other consumer\" as of March, which was 26% lower than the year-earlier period.\nOne customer said the change is prompting him to switch banks after more than a decade with Wells Fargo. Tim Tomassi, a Portland, Oregon programmer, said that he used a personal line of credit linked to his checking account to avoid expensive overdraft fees.\n\"It's a bit upsetting,\" Tomassi said in a phone interview. \"They're a big bank, and I'm a small person, and it feels like they're making decisions for their bottom line and not for customers. A lot of people are in my position, they need a cushion every once in a while from a line of credit.\"\nTomassi said he is considering opening an account at Allyor Chime, banking players that don't chargeoverdraft fees.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":138,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":140936554,"gmtCreate":1625622735578,"gmtModify":1703745098919,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Very good","listText":"Very good","text":"Very good","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/140936554","repostId":"1189741956","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":20,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":158673475,"gmtCreate":1625149305397,"gmtModify":1703737219333,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Hi","listText":"Hi","text":"Hi","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/158673475","repostId":"1194368990","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":110,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":124905483,"gmtCreate":1624715264342,"gmtModify":1703844033715,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Hi","listText":"Hi","text":"Hi","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/124905483","repostId":"2146008543","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":258,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":129961749,"gmtCreate":1624352122381,"gmtModify":1703834175703,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Hao","listText":"Hao","text":"Hao","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/129961749","repostId":"2145035785","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":142,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":129961191,"gmtCreate":1624352083813,"gmtModify":1703834174378,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Hi","listText":"Hi","text":"Hi","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/129961191","repostId":"1130511444","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1130511444","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1624351539,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1130511444?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-06-22 16:45","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Nvidia Hedges Against Crypto Hangover With Chips Just for Miners","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1130511444","media":"Bloomberg","summary":"(Bloomberg) -- Nvidia Corp. has an unlikely message for some of its most voracious customers: please","content":"<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/38eb10ea6dbcda3cbe80cbebd5a56f10\" tg-width=\"704\" tg-height=\"396\">(Bloomberg) -- Nvidia Corp. has an unlikely message for some of its most voracious customers: please don’t buy our latest high-end computer-graphics chip.</p>\n<p>The GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, a $1,199 graphics card, and the RTX 3070 Ti, which costs about half that amount, have had some of their capabilities deliberately stripped out. Nvidia wants them to be the exclusive preserve of its core gamer customer base and is nixing the products’ ability to effectively mine cryptocurrencies like Ethereum and Bitcoin, seeking to discourage miners from snapping up all the supply to build massive crypto-processing farms. Instead, Nvidia is pushing a chip just for the miners.Nvidia’s extreme action is one result of the rising influence of cryptocurrencies, touching on the retail market, the environment and the worlds of finance and technology. Virtual currencies have been in the news as the preferred ransom payment method of cyber attackers. Elon Musk tweets about them more often than he does about his carmaker, Tesla Inc. And as they attract new investors and participants daily, cryptocurrencies have grown more unpredictable and hungrier for the hardware used to generate them.Jensen Huang, Nvidia’s chief executive officer, is swimming against this crypto tide. His company needs to avoid a repeat of the 2017 run-up in demand for its graphics chips, which are the most efficient off-the-shelf chips for solving math problems to create the codes that are the basis of cryptocurrencies.</p>\n<p>While surging demand is rarely a bad thing, in the past this particular trend has heralded a crash -- when the market price of digital currencies soars, miners tend to move on from graphics cards to pricier custom chips optimized for the algorithm they target. That has left graphics-card makers with a drop in demand even more sudden than the initial surge -- and a glut of unsold inventory made worse by a flood of used cards into the second-hand market as miners dumped them.</p>\n<p>In November 2018, having just witnessed such a reaction, Nvidia had to cut its annual sales forecast to $2.7 billion, falling $700 million shy of analysts’ estimates. That disappointment caused investors to dump the stock, resulting in a loss of 20% of its price in two trading days.</p>\n<p>To hedge against another round of this boom and bust, Nvidia has limited the so-called hash rate on its newest graphics chips and some existing products, a change that makes them inefficient for mining. Importantly, that limitation has no impact on the chips’ ability to make the gaming world more realistic in a way that players will pay heavily for.The problem for the most valuable U.S. chipmaker is the difficulty in knowing exactly how many graphics cards it’s selling to gamers -- a more consistent market with foreseeable surges in demand around gift-giving seasons and marquee game releases -- and how many wind up in the hands of crypto miners. Often, those groups overlap.</p>\n<p>Instead of buying finished PCs, crypto miners build a processing infrastructure more akin to a data center or a supercomputer: lots of task-specific components strung together into a unified system. A crypto farm is essentially the biggest accumulation of processors that the miner can assemble to generate tokens. One graphics card is good. Many graphics cards are better.</p>\n<p>Jon Peddie Research, which specializes in tracking the graphics card market, estimates that about 25% of the add-in graphics cards -- those built on their own circuit board and offering more power than embedded graphics -- that were shipped in the first quarter of 2021 went to miners or people looking to resell them for a profit. That’s about 700,000 cards, for a total value of $500 million, the research firm said.Shortages, compounded by the Covid-19 pandemic’s pressure on supply chains and demand across the gaming industry, have led to speculation in the cards. A quick check on EBay and other online retailers shows second-hand Nvidia cards -- of models that preceded the RTX 3080 Ti -- being offered at more than $500 more than the price Nvidia wants for its new top-tier model.</p>\n<p>Nvidia’s GeForce RTX 3080 graphics card first went on sale last September at $699. In May that part was going for $2,582 and is currently selling for a premium of 139% over the launch price, according to StockX, an online marketplace that tracks the prices of consumer goods.“The worry from here would be that things could be too good given the pesky crypto environment,” Stacy Rasgon, an analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein, wrote in a research note. “It is admittedly likely true that at least some gaming business is currently being driven by crypto, which has the potential to bring back some unpleasant investor memories.”Rasgon said he thinks the risk this time is more manageable and less likely to yield an unpleasant shock. Nvidia has taken some steps to silo its markets.</p>\n<p>Chief among them is the introduction of crypto-mining processors, or CMPs, which Nvidia has created exclusively for miners. A $400 million chunk of second-quarter revenue will come from them, according to the company’s projections. They can’t be used in computers for gaming or any other conventional graphics-related tasks, Huang said in an interview. That cuts off the possibility of them flooding the secondary market later when miners decide to dump them in bulk as they upgrade to faster hardware.</p>\n<p>“With CMP we learned to move faster,” the CEO said. Huang said he thinks he’s inoculated Nvidia from the worst of any potential crash caused by crypto-mining graphics card use and disposal.</p>\n<p>Huang said he thinks crypto mining will continue and that the currencies are here to stay. He told reporters at the Computex show this month that he’s hoping that digital currency markets have reached the size that will make the special-purpose chips a worthwhile investment.</p>\n<p>Nvidia’s ideal position is one where it benefits from the crypto boom without jeopardizing its core market. It’s a lucrative prospect if the company strikes the right balance, since the CMPs are made from the rejects from its graphics card production. Chips deemed unfit to sell to gamers because of some fabrication or functional flaw would usually be discarded, but because they don’t need their full capabilities to be useful for mining, the company can repurpose them. It’s a bit of added operational efficiency that’s desperately needed at a time when the entire chip industry struggles to secure production capacity.Scale is key to Huang’s optimism about Nvidia getting things right this time. The company’s 2021 revenue will be more than double its 2018 total of $11.95 billion, according to analyst estimates. Its gaming business alone is now bigger than the whole company in 2018 and it has successfully grown its data center business, with those chips providing 36% of its revenue in the most recent quarter. Nvidia is now bigger and more diversified, and is taking preemptive measures to avoid another crypto collapse.</p>\n<p>Still, just like the volatile price of cryptocurrencies and the unpredictable new uses that they’re put to, fluctuations in the chip industry in recent times have grown bigger and more difficult to predict.</p>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Nvidia Hedges Against Crypto Hangover With Chips Just for Miners</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nNvidia Hedges Against Crypto Hangover With Chips Just for Miners\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-22 16:45 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-hedges-against-crypto-hangover-080000949.html><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>(Bloomberg) -- Nvidia Corp. has an unlikely message for some of its most voracious customers: please don’t buy our latest high-end computer-graphics chip.\nThe GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, a $1,199 graphics ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-hedges-against-crypto-hangover-080000949.html\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"NVDA":"英伟达"},"source_url":"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-hedges-against-crypto-hangover-080000949.html","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1130511444","content_text":"(Bloomberg) -- Nvidia Corp. has an unlikely message for some of its most voracious customers: please don’t buy our latest high-end computer-graphics chip.\nThe GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, a $1,199 graphics card, and the RTX 3070 Ti, which costs about half that amount, have had some of their capabilities deliberately stripped out. Nvidia wants them to be the exclusive preserve of its core gamer customer base and is nixing the products’ ability to effectively mine cryptocurrencies like Ethereum and Bitcoin, seeking to discourage miners from snapping up all the supply to build massive crypto-processing farms. Instead, Nvidia is pushing a chip just for the miners.Nvidia’s extreme action is one result of the rising influence of cryptocurrencies, touching on the retail market, the environment and the worlds of finance and technology. Virtual currencies have been in the news as the preferred ransom payment method of cyber attackers. Elon Musk tweets about them more often than he does about his carmaker, Tesla Inc. And as they attract new investors and participants daily, cryptocurrencies have grown more unpredictable and hungrier for the hardware used to generate them.Jensen Huang, Nvidia’s chief executive officer, is swimming against this crypto tide. His company needs to avoid a repeat of the 2017 run-up in demand for its graphics chips, which are the most efficient off-the-shelf chips for solving math problems to create the codes that are the basis of cryptocurrencies.\nWhile surging demand is rarely a bad thing, in the past this particular trend has heralded a crash -- when the market price of digital currencies soars, miners tend to move on from graphics cards to pricier custom chips optimized for the algorithm they target. That has left graphics-card makers with a drop in demand even more sudden than the initial surge -- and a glut of unsold inventory made worse by a flood of used cards into the second-hand market as miners dumped them.\nIn November 2018, having just witnessed such a reaction, Nvidia had to cut its annual sales forecast to $2.7 billion, falling $700 million shy of analysts’ estimates. That disappointment caused investors to dump the stock, resulting in a loss of 20% of its price in two trading days.\nTo hedge against another round of this boom and bust, Nvidia has limited the so-called hash rate on its newest graphics chips and some existing products, a change that makes them inefficient for mining. Importantly, that limitation has no impact on the chips’ ability to make the gaming world more realistic in a way that players will pay heavily for.The problem for the most valuable U.S. chipmaker is the difficulty in knowing exactly how many graphics cards it’s selling to gamers -- a more consistent market with foreseeable surges in demand around gift-giving seasons and marquee game releases -- and how many wind up in the hands of crypto miners. Often, those groups overlap.\nInstead of buying finished PCs, crypto miners build a processing infrastructure more akin to a data center or a supercomputer: lots of task-specific components strung together into a unified system. A crypto farm is essentially the biggest accumulation of processors that the miner can assemble to generate tokens. One graphics card is good. Many graphics cards are better.\nJon Peddie Research, which specializes in tracking the graphics card market, estimates that about 25% of the add-in graphics cards -- those built on their own circuit board and offering more power than embedded graphics -- that were shipped in the first quarter of 2021 went to miners or people looking to resell them for a profit. That’s about 700,000 cards, for a total value of $500 million, the research firm said.Shortages, compounded by the Covid-19 pandemic’s pressure on supply chains and demand across the gaming industry, have led to speculation in the cards. A quick check on EBay and other online retailers shows second-hand Nvidia cards -- of models that preceded the RTX 3080 Ti -- being offered at more than $500 more than the price Nvidia wants for its new top-tier model.\nNvidia’s GeForce RTX 3080 graphics card first went on sale last September at $699. In May that part was going for $2,582 and is currently selling for a premium of 139% over the launch price, according to StockX, an online marketplace that tracks the prices of consumer goods.“The worry from here would be that things could be too good given the pesky crypto environment,” Stacy Rasgon, an analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein, wrote in a research note. “It is admittedly likely true that at least some gaming business is currently being driven by crypto, which has the potential to bring back some unpleasant investor memories.”Rasgon said he thinks the risk this time is more manageable and less likely to yield an unpleasant shock. Nvidia has taken some steps to silo its markets.\nChief among them is the introduction of crypto-mining processors, or CMPs, which Nvidia has created exclusively for miners. A $400 million chunk of second-quarter revenue will come from them, according to the company’s projections. They can’t be used in computers for gaming or any other conventional graphics-related tasks, Huang said in an interview. That cuts off the possibility of them flooding the secondary market later when miners decide to dump them in bulk as they upgrade to faster hardware.\n“With CMP we learned to move faster,” the CEO said. Huang said he thinks he’s inoculated Nvidia from the worst of any potential crash caused by crypto-mining graphics card use and disposal.\nHuang said he thinks crypto mining will continue and that the currencies are here to stay. He told reporters at the Computex show this month that he’s hoping that digital currency markets have reached the size that will make the special-purpose chips a worthwhile investment.\nNvidia’s ideal position is one where it benefits from the crypto boom without jeopardizing its core market. It’s a lucrative prospect if the company strikes the right balance, since the CMPs are made from the rejects from its graphics card production. Chips deemed unfit to sell to gamers because of some fabrication or functional flaw would usually be discarded, but because they don’t need their full capabilities to be useful for mining, the company can repurpose them. It’s a bit of added operational efficiency that’s desperately needed at a time when the entire chip industry struggles to secure production capacity.Scale is key to Huang’s optimism about Nvidia getting things right this time. The company’s 2021 revenue will be more than double its 2018 total of $11.95 billion, according to analyst estimates. Its gaming business alone is now bigger than the whole company in 2018 and it has successfully grown its data center business, with those chips providing 36% of its revenue in the most recent quarter. Nvidia is now bigger and more diversified, and is taking preemptive measures to avoid another crypto collapse.\nStill, just like the volatile price of cryptocurrencies and the unpredictable new uses that they’re put to, fluctuations in the chip industry in recent times have grown bigger and more difficult to predict.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":241,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":372853675,"gmtCreate":1619193028797,"gmtModify":1704721138328,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Yes","listText":"Yes","text":"Yes","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/372853675","repostId":"1166519043","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1166519043","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1619192700,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1166519043?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-04-23 23:45","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock Split: Will It Happen Again?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1166519043","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Tesla not only has to contend with pure-play EV-makers. It will also face new entrants such as Apple and Chinese smartphone makers Huawei and Xiaomi.More traditional automakers will also be producing electric vehicles. Even if the demand side is plausible, it would mean Tesla needs to build many more factories.However, if analysts are right that Tesla's true potential lies in a future rollout of an autonomous ride-hailing fleet, its share price has much room to head north based on the consensus ","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>Tesla not only has to contend with pure-play EV-makers. It will also face new entrants such as Apple and Chinese smartphone makers Huawei and Xiaomi.</li>\n <li>More traditional automakers will also be producing electric vehicles. Even if the demand side is plausible, it would mean Tesla needs to build many more factories.</li>\n <li>It's a high chance that a great number of new plants would be in China which carries plenty of geopolitical risks. The headwinds from the uncertainties could suppress TSLA stock.</li>\n <li>However, if analysts are right that Tesla's true potential lies in a future rollout of an autonomous ride-hailing fleet, its share price has much room to head north based on the consensus projections.</li>\n <li>Tesla could consider another stock split to get&nbsp;\"more people in the stock.\" Past experiences suggest the EV titan could do one before the share price hit quadruple-digit again.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/59edf6c2b70d6c984dc825b7567439bc\" tg-width=\"768\" tg-height=\"512\"><span>Photo by Spencer Platt/Getty Images News via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>TSLA stock is poised to rise in line with its business growth</b></p>\n<p>In a recent article titled&nbsp;<i>Who Will Be The Biggest Competitors By 2025</i>, I questioned certain projections regarding Tesla's (TSLA) car sales. Some estimates implied that Tesla would take a lion's share of the EV market despite the rapid increase in the number of competitors.</p>\n<p>By 2025, Tesla not only has to contend with pure-play EV-makers. It will also face new entrants such as Apple Inc. (AAPL) as well as Chinese smartphone giants Huawei and Xiaomi Corporation (OTC:XIACF)(OTCPK:XIACY). More traditional automakers will also be producing electric vehicles, even as they continue to churn out internal combustion engine-based cars.</p>\n<p>Even if the demand side is plausible, it would mean Tesla, Inc. needs to build many more factories. Given the effusive praise we have heard from Elon Musk regarding the speed of factory construction and on China in general, we could expect additional new plants to be cited in the populous country. That could add more&nbsp;geopolitical risks&nbsp;to the stock, as SA author John Engle argued.</p>\n<p>Then again, as many readers on Seeking Alpha, analysts, and Cathie Wood have postulated, Tesla's true potential lies in a future rollout of an autonomous ride-hailing fleet. Consequently, Tesla's revenue is projected to rise from $31.54 billion in 2020 to a whopping $388.52 billion on a consensus basis in 2030. That would bring the price-to-sales ratio to a mere 1.84 times on a forward basis.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fac352f9c2ac9bac0412ed076c27c75a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"368\"><span>Source: Seeking Alpha Premium</span></p>\n<p>If Tesla did not disappoint the most bullish of the optimists forecasting its revenue to hit $600.7 billion in 2030, its P/S ratio would drop even lower to 1.19 times! You might say, all that sales are wonderful but what does their profitability look like? Well, the analysts believe TSLA would make boatloads of money. The consensus EPS estimate for 2030 is $33.48, a massive jump from the $0.64 it achieved in 2020. If the 2030 EPS estimate is realized, those earnings at today's price would reflect a ratio of 22.2 times, which could be seen as incredibly low.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7650450aa6230d6585a502b571ee3652\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"278\"><span>Source: Seeking Alpha Premium</span></p>\n<p>With EV sales projected by industry consultancy Canalys to remain below 50 percent of the total car sales by 2030, there remains significant growth potential for Tesla to increase its revenue. As such, assuming the analysts are correct, the share price of TSLA will not stay at the present level for the P/S ratio to be just 1.84 times and the P/E ratio at 22.2 times, the share price of TSLA would rise further than where it stands today.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0cd810d4171606b50d186b8d9bf10bf5\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"479\"></p>\n<p>Tesla stock split history: What was Tesla's stock price before the recent split?</p>\n<p>In other words, Tesla's share price would continue to rise over the next five to ten years. With that in mind, the question is, will TSLA split again? Before discussing that, let's review Tesla's previous split.</p>\n<p>On August 11, 2020, Tesla&nbsp;announced, after the market closed, that its board approved a five-for-one split of shares to \"make stock ownership more accessible to employees and investors.\" This marked Tesla's first-ever split announcement. The stock jumped from a pre-split price of $1374.4 to as high as $1585 the next day before closing at $1554.75. TSLA went on to clock further gains the rest of the month, appreciating over 80 percent by the end of August 2020.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c1b22a860341fe3bf36996d737680ddb\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"485\"></p>\n<p><b>How did Tesla's most recent stock split affect share prices?</b></p>\n<p>Interestingly, after the split was affected, Tesla stock lost much of the August gains in just a few trading sessions in early September. The share price decline was speculated by some to be due to shareholders paring their holdings since the split had resulted in them holding more TSLA shares. This seems logical as the purpose of the split was to accord shareholders with greater \"liquidity\" over their TSLA holding.</p>\n<p>However, the weakness in Tesla's share price was more likely attributable to a capital-raising exercise&nbsp;announced&nbsp;pre-market on September 1, 2020. Although only up to $5 billion worth of shares representing just over 1 percent of Tesla's market cap were to be sold, investors were probably looking for a trigger to take profit considering that TSLA was running in overbought territory for more than two weeks, according to the relative strength index [RSI] momentum indicator at that time.</p>\n<p>TSLA's strong run upwards had also led to the stock becoming \"overweight\" on many shareholders' portfolios. Ironically, that meant investors, whether individuals or fund managers had to reduce their Tesla holdings to avoid concentration risk. For funds with concentration guidelines or rules, it's not even a choice but a&nbsp;mandatory reduction&nbsp;exercise once the Tesla position became outsized.</p>\n<p>To make matters worse, Tesla stock was subsequently dragged down further into correction territory amid a sell-off by investors of tech favorites and \"all things frothy.\" The share price recovered some grounds quickly but the stock stagnated for a few months thereafter before a&nbsp;powerful wave of EV hypeswept TSLA up again to new heights.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/085a34d7256fb764f0652d6223057202\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"267\"><span>Source: Yahoo Finance</span></p>\n<p><b>When will Tesla stock split again?</b></p>\n<p>Although Tesla's share price has pulled back from the peak earlier in the year, it remains much higher than the post-split level last year. At $744.12 at the time of writing, TSLA is 49 percent higher than the $498.32 close on August 31, 2020, the day of the stock split.</p>\n<p>If the past is any reference, Tesla executives did the stock split when the share price was in quadruple-digit. TSLA will need to rise more than 34 percent for that to happen again. As I opined earlier, Tesla stock appears to be poised for further upside. I believe it's more of a question of when, not if, will TSLA hit above $1,000 per share.</p>\n<p>Nevertheless, even in the current investing environment where there are platforms allowing the trading of fractional shares, there are still benefits for stocks with smaller prices. One obvious advantage is the impact on psychology, as the mind interprets low prices as \"cheaply valued\" and having room to head north.</p>\n<p>The leadership at Apple must be thinking the same as the folks at Tesla when the company executed its stock split around the same time as the EV giant last August. The share price appreciation from pre-announcement to post-stock split date was less spectacular compared to Tesla but still a hefty 41 percent.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/46bd0bed00b03ba1d738fd84c9dfb0dc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"483\"></p>\n<p>Considering that Apple&nbsp;announced&nbsp;a stock split when the share price was much lower at $384.76, it goes to show there's value in considering a split in the stock even without the share price hitting quadruple-digit. Furthermore, AAPL has done this four times before - in 1987, 2000, 2005, and 2014 - when the share prices were all below $1,000. In 1987 and 2005, the stock was even trading at the sub-$100 level when the company did the split.</p>\n<p>Jim Cramer was quoted as saying during an interview last year that Tim Cook explained the 2020 stock split to him, telling him that he wanted \"more people in the stock.\" I suppose that's what Bill Gates and his team thought when the software giant performed eight stock splits from the listing of Microsoft (MSFT) until 1999 as MSFT climbed exponentially during the period. Elon Musk and Tim Cook are the odd couple but I believe the former would agree on having \"more people\" in TSLA stock.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/44957db620e86907bb72e9691bc726e6\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"250\"><span>Source: Yahoo Finance</span></p>\n<p><b>Should you buy Tesla now or wait for a split?</b></p>\n<p>Video-streaming leader Netflix (NFLX) announced a seven-for-one stock split in 2015 when its share was around $700 pre-split. NFLX went on to do very well though it's very much due to its business success than a simple cosmetic stock split exercise. The point of bringing this up is that Tesla's share price is around where Netflix's share price was when the split was completed.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f3cbb0c9bd178401bc6cc863a0934af2\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"271\"><span>Source: Yahoo Finance</span></p>\n<p>Although Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN) and Alphabet Inc. (GOOGL)(GOOG) are the odd tech companies trading at quadruple-digit levels, most others are trading in the triple-digit or smaller. With the favorable experience from the previous stock split, Tesla might not want to wait for the share price to hit quadruple-digit again before contemplating another split.</p>\n<p>Furthermore, there is&nbsp;existing literature&nbsp;that reveals a strong correlation between stock splits and \"outstanding stock price performance\", giving Tesla the impetus to do so. Another potential trigger point for Elon Musk to announce a stock split could be when TSLA hit $840 per share. He would be able to claim that the company would do a two-for-one split so that the share price becomes $420 post-split.</p>\n<p>Of course, the share price wouldn't stay flat from the announcement date until the effective date. Nonetheless, the media would have gone into overdrive covering the announcement and speculating about the number's link to weed as well as Elon's past brush with the securities law on his previous take-Tesla-private-at-$420 claim. This would generate plenty of free publicity for the company.</p>\n<p>However, investors should not hang around for a stock split if they are intending to own shares in Tesla. It may not happen and the share price could still zoom upwards on speculations, improving sentiment, or due to business fundamentals.</p>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock Split: Will It Happen Again?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock Split: Will It Happen Again?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-04-23 23:45 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4420899-tesla-stock-split-will-it-happen-again><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Summary\n\nTesla not only has to contend with pure-play EV-makers. It will also face new entrants such as Apple and Chinese smartphone makers Huawei and Xiaomi.\nMore traditional automakers will also be ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4420899-tesla-stock-split-will-it-happen-again\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4420899-tesla-stock-split-will-it-happen-again","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1166519043","content_text":"Summary\n\nTesla not only has to contend with pure-play EV-makers. It will also face new entrants such as Apple and Chinese smartphone makers Huawei and Xiaomi.\nMore traditional automakers will also be producing electric vehicles. Even if the demand side is plausible, it would mean Tesla needs to build many more factories.\nIt's a high chance that a great number of new plants would be in China which carries plenty of geopolitical risks. The headwinds from the uncertainties could suppress TSLA stock.\nHowever, if analysts are right that Tesla's true potential lies in a future rollout of an autonomous ride-hailing fleet, its share price has much room to head north based on the consensus projections.\nTesla could consider another stock split to get \"more people in the stock.\" Past experiences suggest the EV titan could do one before the share price hit quadruple-digit again.\n\nPhoto by Spencer Platt/Getty Images News via Getty Images\nTSLA stock is poised to rise in line with its business growth\nIn a recent article titled Who Will Be The Biggest Competitors By 2025, I questioned certain projections regarding Tesla's (TSLA) car sales. Some estimates implied that Tesla would take a lion's share of the EV market despite the rapid increase in the number of competitors.\nBy 2025, Tesla not only has to contend with pure-play EV-makers. It will also face new entrants such as Apple Inc. (AAPL) as well as Chinese smartphone giants Huawei and Xiaomi Corporation (OTC:XIACF)(OTCPK:XIACY). More traditional automakers will also be producing electric vehicles, even as they continue to churn out internal combustion engine-based cars.\nEven if the demand side is plausible, it would mean Tesla, Inc. needs to build many more factories. Given the effusive praise we have heard from Elon Musk regarding the speed of factory construction and on China in general, we could expect additional new plants to be cited in the populous country. That could add more geopolitical risks to the stock, as SA author John Engle argued.\nThen again, as many readers on Seeking Alpha, analysts, and Cathie Wood have postulated, Tesla's true potential lies in a future rollout of an autonomous ride-hailing fleet. Consequently, Tesla's revenue is projected to rise from $31.54 billion in 2020 to a whopping $388.52 billion on a consensus basis in 2030. That would bring the price-to-sales ratio to a mere 1.84 times on a forward basis.\nSource: Seeking Alpha Premium\nIf Tesla did not disappoint the most bullish of the optimists forecasting its revenue to hit $600.7 billion in 2030, its P/S ratio would drop even lower to 1.19 times! You might say, all that sales are wonderful but what does their profitability look like? Well, the analysts believe TSLA would make boatloads of money. The consensus EPS estimate for 2030 is $33.48, a massive jump from the $0.64 it achieved in 2020. If the 2030 EPS estimate is realized, those earnings at today's price would reflect a ratio of 22.2 times, which could be seen as incredibly low.\nSource: Seeking Alpha Premium\nWith EV sales projected by industry consultancy Canalys to remain below 50 percent of the total car sales by 2030, there remains significant growth potential for Tesla to increase its revenue. As such, assuming the analysts are correct, the share price of TSLA will not stay at the present level for the P/S ratio to be just 1.84 times and the P/E ratio at 22.2 times, the share price of TSLA would rise further than where it stands today.\n\nTesla stock split history: What was Tesla's stock price before the recent split?\nIn other words, Tesla's share price would continue to rise over the next five to ten years. With that in mind, the question is, will TSLA split again? Before discussing that, let's review Tesla's previous split.\nOn August 11, 2020, Tesla announced, after the market closed, that its board approved a five-for-one split of shares to \"make stock ownership more accessible to employees and investors.\" This marked Tesla's first-ever split announcement. The stock jumped from a pre-split price of $1374.4 to as high as $1585 the next day before closing at $1554.75. TSLA went on to clock further gains the rest of the month, appreciating over 80 percent by the end of August 2020.\n\nHow did Tesla's most recent stock split affect share prices?\nInterestingly, after the split was affected, Tesla stock lost much of the August gains in just a few trading sessions in early September. The share price decline was speculated by some to be due to shareholders paring their holdings since the split had resulted in them holding more TSLA shares. This seems logical as the purpose of the split was to accord shareholders with greater \"liquidity\" over their TSLA holding.\nHowever, the weakness in Tesla's share price was more likely attributable to a capital-raising exercise announced pre-market on September 1, 2020. Although only up to $5 billion worth of shares representing just over 1 percent of Tesla's market cap were to be sold, investors were probably looking for a trigger to take profit considering that TSLA was running in overbought territory for more than two weeks, according to the relative strength index [RSI] momentum indicator at that time.\nTSLA's strong run upwards had also led to the stock becoming \"overweight\" on many shareholders' portfolios. Ironically, that meant investors, whether individuals or fund managers had to reduce their Tesla holdings to avoid concentration risk. For funds with concentration guidelines or rules, it's not even a choice but a mandatory reduction exercise once the Tesla position became outsized.\nTo make matters worse, Tesla stock was subsequently dragged down further into correction territory amid a sell-off by investors of tech favorites and \"all things frothy.\" The share price recovered some grounds quickly but the stock stagnated for a few months thereafter before a powerful wave of EV hypeswept TSLA up again to new heights.\nSource: Yahoo Finance\nWhen will Tesla stock split again?\nAlthough Tesla's share price has pulled back from the peak earlier in the year, it remains much higher than the post-split level last year. At $744.12 at the time of writing, TSLA is 49 percent higher than the $498.32 close on August 31, 2020, the day of the stock split.\nIf the past is any reference, Tesla executives did the stock split when the share price was in quadruple-digit. TSLA will need to rise more than 34 percent for that to happen again. As I opined earlier, Tesla stock appears to be poised for further upside. I believe it's more of a question of when, not if, will TSLA hit above $1,000 per share.\nNevertheless, even in the current investing environment where there are platforms allowing the trading of fractional shares, there are still benefits for stocks with smaller prices. One obvious advantage is the impact on psychology, as the mind interprets low prices as \"cheaply valued\" and having room to head north.\nThe leadership at Apple must be thinking the same as the folks at Tesla when the company executed its stock split around the same time as the EV giant last August. The share price appreciation from pre-announcement to post-stock split date was less spectacular compared to Tesla but still a hefty 41 percent.\n\nConsidering that Apple announced a stock split when the share price was much lower at $384.76, it goes to show there's value in considering a split in the stock even without the share price hitting quadruple-digit. Furthermore, AAPL has done this four times before - in 1987, 2000, 2005, and 2014 - when the share prices were all below $1,000. In 1987 and 2005, the stock was even trading at the sub-$100 level when the company did the split.\nJim Cramer was quoted as saying during an interview last year that Tim Cook explained the 2020 stock split to him, telling him that he wanted \"more people in the stock.\" I suppose that's what Bill Gates and his team thought when the software giant performed eight stock splits from the listing of Microsoft (MSFT) until 1999 as MSFT climbed exponentially during the period. Elon Musk and Tim Cook are the odd couple but I believe the former would agree on having \"more people\" in TSLA stock.\nSource: Yahoo Finance\nShould you buy Tesla now or wait for a split?\nVideo-streaming leader Netflix (NFLX) announced a seven-for-one stock split in 2015 when its share was around $700 pre-split. NFLX went on to do very well though it's very much due to its business success than a simple cosmetic stock split exercise. The point of bringing this up is that Tesla's share price is around where Netflix's share price was when the split was completed.\nSource: Yahoo Finance\nAlthough Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN) and Alphabet Inc. (GOOGL)(GOOG) are the odd tech companies trading at quadruple-digit levels, most others are trading in the triple-digit or smaller. With the favorable experience from the previous stock split, Tesla might not want to wait for the share price to hit quadruple-digit again before contemplating another split.\nFurthermore, there is existing literature that reveals a strong correlation between stock splits and \"outstanding stock price performance\", giving Tesla the impetus to do so. Another potential trigger point for Elon Musk to announce a stock split could be when TSLA hit $840 per share. He would be able to claim that the company would do a two-for-one split so that the share price becomes $420 post-split.\nOf course, the share price wouldn't stay flat from the announcement date until the effective date. Nonetheless, the media would have gone into overdrive covering the announcement and speculating about the number's link to weed as well as Elon's past brush with the securities law on his previous take-Tesla-private-at-$420 claim. This would generate plenty of free publicity for the company.\nHowever, investors should not hang around for a stock split if they are intending to own shares in Tesla. 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But the market may still be in trouble.</p>\n<p>An important reason for the move higher was the strength in the financial sector. But the bank stocks are still below an important level. This resistance could put a pause to the move higher in the broader market.</p>\n<p>The $50 level was important support for the<b>SPDR S&amp;P Bank ETF</b>KBE 2.02%. Now, after the selloff, the shares are trading below $50.</p>\n<p>This means investors who bought at $50 and haven’t sold are losing money. Many of them decide they want out, but they don’t want to take a loss.</p>\n<p>As a result, they will be placing their sell orders right around the $50 level. If there are enough of these sellers, it will form resistance. 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But the market may still be in trouble.</p>\n<p>An important reason for the move higher was the strength in the financial sector. But the bank stocks are still below an important level. This resistance could put a pause to the move higher in the broader market.</p>\n<p>The $50 level was important support for the<b>SPDR S&amp;P Bank ETF</b>KBE 2.02%. Now, after the selloff, the shares are trading below $50.</p>\n<p>This means investors who bought at $50 and haven’t sold are losing money. Many of them decide they want out, but they don’t want to take a loss.</p>\n<p>As a result, they will be placing their sell orders right around the $50 level. If there are enough of these sellers, it will form resistance. This could put a ceiling on KBE.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/df6b06322760de97861bea76ce5444f7\" tg-width=\"1615\" tg-height=\"825\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"></p>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"SPY":"标普500ETF"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1162279901","content_text":"After large moves lower on Friday and Monday, theSPDR S&P 500 ETF TrustSPY 0.58%traded up almost 1.5% Tuesday. But the market may still be in trouble.\nAn important reason for the move higher was the strength in the financial sector. But the bank stocks are still below an important level. This resistance could put a pause to the move higher in the broader market.\nThe $50 level was important support for theSPDR S&P Bank ETFKBE 2.02%. Now, after the selloff, the shares are trading below $50.\nThis means investors who bought at $50 and haven’t sold are losing money. Many of them decide they want out, but they don’t want to take a loss.\nAs a result, they will be placing their sell orders right around the $50 level. If there are enough of these sellers, it will form resistance. This could put a ceiling on KBE.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":285,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":158673475,"gmtCreate":1625149305397,"gmtModify":1703737219333,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Hi","listText":"Hi","text":"Hi","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/158673475","repostId":"1194368990","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1194368990","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1625149022,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1194368990?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-07-01 22:17","market":"us","language":"en","title":"GameStop Stock Has Stabilized, Putting the Pressure on New Executives","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1194368990","media":"InvestorPlace","summary":"Hold off on participating in the GameStop game\nAfter a volatile and exhausting run in the first half","content":"<p>Hold off on participating in the GameStop game</p>\n<p>After a volatile and exhausting run in the first half of this year,<b>GameStop</b>(NYSE:<b><u>GME</u></b>) stock look to finally be stabilizing somewhat.</p>\n<p>Of course, “stable” is a relative term when it comes to GME stock, which, at this point, seems to operate completely outside normal investing and trading rules. While the share price of the brick-and-mortar video game retailer remains up over 1,000% year-to-date, the stock opened on June 30 at $209.69, less than half its 52-week high of $483 per share.</p>\n<p>Since June 10, GameStop’s stock price has almost entirely been trading in a range of $200 to $230, which is about as stable as it has been since it was targeted by retail investors on r/WallStreetBets site in late January and became the original&nbsp;meme stock.</p>\n<p><b>The GME Stock Circus</b></p>\n<p>After wild, headline-grabbing swings throughout the spring that saw GME stock jump from $17 up to nearly $500, back down to $40 and up again above $300, GameStop has become one of the most infamous stocks in Wall Street history. It’s destined to be forever linked to the meme stock craze and short-selling. The stock has also entered the pop culture lexicon with phrases such as “to the moon,” “stonks” and “diamond hands,” and introduced the world to memorable characters such as trader&nbsp;Roaring Kitty.</p>\n<p>Given the circus-like atmosphere that has surrounded GameStop, a company headquartered near Dallas, Texas, that is the largest video game retailer in the world, many analysts and professional traders on Wall Street are, understandably, trying to determine where the stock goes from here.</p>\n<p>Investment bank Robert W. Baird &amp; Co. (commonly known as Baird) made headlines recently when it announced that it is&nbsp;suspending analyst coverage&nbsp;of GME stock, saying that continued speculative trading makes it nearly impossible to evaluate the company and make “reasonable” recommendations about it to clients.</p>\n<p>Many investment firms are steering clear of GameStop after the stock’s rally this year cost short sellers billions in losses. GameStop and fellow meme stock&nbsp;<b>AMC</b>(NYSE:<b><u>AMC</u></b>)cost short sellers&nbsp;nearly $1 billion in five trading days during May after their share prices leapt higher. Investment management firm Melvin Capital&nbsp;lost more than $4 billion&nbsp;in the first quarter betting against GameStop, which traders and analysts see as a troubled company that continues to sell video games at retail outlets as the industry increasingly moves online. Some critics compare GameStop to now-defunct movie rental chain&nbsp;Blockbuster video.</p>\n<p>Yet despite the disdain leveled at it, the management of GameStop insists that they have a plan to move the company forward and ensure it survives to become more than a cautionary tale for future investors.</p>\n<p><b>Under New Management</b></p>\n<p>In this year’s first half, as GME stock bounced all over the place, the company completely&nbsp;changed its management team. On June 9, GameStop announced that it had hired former Amazon executive Matt Furlong as its new chief executive officer (CEO), and also hired fellow Amazon executive Mike Recupero as its chief financial officer (CFO). The hiring of a pair of experienced Amazon executives was seen as an extremely practical decision amid a sea of irrational stock trading.</p>\n<p>Furlong, the new CEO, had previously worked at Amazon for nearly nine years and was instrumental in growing that online retailer’s business in Australia. The new CEO was the last of several new executives to join GameStop this year. The company also&nbsp;added to its senior ranks&nbsp;a new chief operating officer, its first chief technology officer, and&nbsp;a chief growth officer. Perhaps most importantly, GameStop named Ryan Cohen, the co-founder of online pet retailer&nbsp;<b>Chewy</b>(NYSE:<b><u>CHWY</u></b>) as chairman of its board of directors.</p>\n<p>Ryan Cohen, who made a success of Chewy, has been brought in to lead GameStop’s fledgling e-commerce strategy. While the Reddit traders have applauded all of the new executive hires at GameStop, they have been particularly enthusiastic about Ryan Cohen joining the company and seem to&nbsp;rally around the stock&nbsp;every time he comments publicly on the video game retailer’s future.</p>\n<p><b>Give GME Stock Time to Normalize</b></p>\n<p>GME stock has come to a fork in the road. The company and its stock are either going to experience a flameout and go down in infamy, or management will right the ship and ensure that GameStop remains a going concern as a hybrid online and brick-and-mortar video game retailer. Time will tell which way GameStop ultimately goes. But right now, GameStop is a&nbsp;troubled company&nbsp;that has brought in a new executive team to turn things around after a tumultuous time for its stock and shareholders.</p>\n<p>As such, its hard to recommend investors take a position in GameStop. Until GME stock legitimately stabilizes and demonstrates that it has normalized, investors should stay away from it. The&nbsp;median price target&nbsp;on GameStop shares is currently $73.75, implying a 65% decline from current levels. At this point, GameStop shares look to have more downside than upside.</p>","source":"lsy1606302653667","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>GameStop Stock Has Stabilized, Putting the Pressure on New Executives</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nGameStop Stock Has Stabilized, Putting the Pressure on New Executives\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-07-01 22:17 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://investorplace.com/2021/07/gme-stock-has-stabilized-putting-pressure-on-new-executives/><strong>InvestorPlace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Hold off on participating in the GameStop game\nAfter a volatile and exhausting run in the first half of this year,GameStop(NYSE:GME) stock look to finally be stabilizing somewhat.\nOf course, “stable” ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2021/07/gme-stock-has-stabilized-putting-pressure-on-new-executives/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"GME":"游戏驿站"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2021/07/gme-stock-has-stabilized-putting-pressure-on-new-executives/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1194368990","content_text":"Hold off on participating in the GameStop game\nAfter a volatile and exhausting run in the first half of this year,GameStop(NYSE:GME) stock look to finally be stabilizing somewhat.\nOf course, “stable” is a relative term when it comes to GME stock, which, at this point, seems to operate completely outside normal investing and trading rules. While the share price of the brick-and-mortar video game retailer remains up over 1,000% year-to-date, the stock opened on June 30 at $209.69, less than half its 52-week high of $483 per share.\nSince June 10, GameStop’s stock price has almost entirely been trading in a range of $200 to $230, which is about as stable as it has been since it was targeted by retail investors on r/WallStreetBets site in late January and became the original meme stock.\nThe GME Stock Circus\nAfter wild, headline-grabbing swings throughout the spring that saw GME stock jump from $17 up to nearly $500, back down to $40 and up again above $300, GameStop has become one of the most infamous stocks in Wall Street history. It’s destined to be forever linked to the meme stock craze and short-selling. The stock has also entered the pop culture lexicon with phrases such as “to the moon,” “stonks” and “diamond hands,” and introduced the world to memorable characters such as trader Roaring Kitty.\nGiven the circus-like atmosphere that has surrounded GameStop, a company headquartered near Dallas, Texas, that is the largest video game retailer in the world, many analysts and professional traders on Wall Street are, understandably, trying to determine where the stock goes from here.\nInvestment bank Robert W. Baird & Co. (commonly known as Baird) made headlines recently when it announced that it is suspending analyst coverage of GME stock, saying that continued speculative trading makes it nearly impossible to evaluate the company and make “reasonable” recommendations about it to clients.\nMany investment firms are steering clear of GameStop after the stock’s rally this year cost short sellers billions in losses. GameStop and fellow meme stock AMC(NYSE:AMC)cost short sellers nearly $1 billion in five trading days during May after their share prices leapt higher. Investment management firm Melvin Capital lost more than $4 billion in the first quarter betting against GameStop, which traders and analysts see as a troubled company that continues to sell video games at retail outlets as the industry increasingly moves online. Some critics compare GameStop to now-defunct movie rental chain Blockbuster video.\nYet despite the disdain leveled at it, the management of GameStop insists that they have a plan to move the company forward and ensure it survives to become more than a cautionary tale for future investors.\nUnder New Management\nIn this year’s first half, as GME stock bounced all over the place, the company completely changed its management team. On June 9, GameStop announced that it had hired former Amazon executive Matt Furlong as its new chief executive officer (CEO), and also hired fellow Amazon executive Mike Recupero as its chief financial officer (CFO). The hiring of a pair of experienced Amazon executives was seen as an extremely practical decision amid a sea of irrational stock trading.\nFurlong, the new CEO, had previously worked at Amazon for nearly nine years and was instrumental in growing that online retailer’s business in Australia. The new CEO was the last of several new executives to join GameStop this year. The company also added to its senior ranks a new chief operating officer, its first chief technology officer, and a chief growth officer. Perhaps most importantly, GameStop named Ryan Cohen, the co-founder of online pet retailer Chewy(NYSE:CHWY) as chairman of its board of directors.\nRyan Cohen, who made a success of Chewy, has been brought in to lead GameStop’s fledgling e-commerce strategy. While the Reddit traders have applauded all of the new executive hires at GameStop, they have been particularly enthusiastic about Ryan Cohen joining the company and seem to rally around the stock every time he comments publicly on the video game retailer’s future.\nGive GME Stock Time to Normalize\nGME stock has come to a fork in the road. The company and its stock are either going to experience a flameout and go down in infamy, or management will right the ship and ensure that GameStop remains a going concern as a hybrid online and brick-and-mortar video game retailer. Time will tell which way GameStop ultimately goes. But right now, GameStop is a troubled company that has brought in a new executive team to turn things around after a tumultuous time for its stock and shareholders.\nAs such, its hard to recommend investors take a position in GameStop. Until GME stock legitimately stabilizes and demonstrates that it has normalized, investors should stay away from it. The median price target on GameStop shares is currently $73.75, implying a 65% decline from current levels. At this point, GameStop shares look to have more downside than upside.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":110,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":177912045,"gmtCreate":1627175363687,"gmtModify":1703485005646,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Like pls","listText":"Like pls","text":"Like pls","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/177912045","repostId":"1112927800","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1112927800","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1627089375,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1112927800?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-07-24 09:16","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Will NIO Stock Follow Tesla's Footsteps? What To Consider Between These Two EV Stocks","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1112927800","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Let's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.NIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly expensive relative to how Tesla is valued.NIO is not a low-risk stock, however, and it may not be a good choice for everyone. Investors should also consider NIO's valuation versus legacy car companies.Both companies have benefitted from growing interest in EVs during 2020, a trend that saw share prices of most EV p","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>Let's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.</li>\n <li>NIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly expensive relative to how Tesla is valued.</li>\n <li>NIO is not a low-risk stock, however, and it may not be a good choice for everyone. Investors should also consider NIO's valuation versus legacy car companies.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2f749c70c8a2af3e18d5f6cecc72bfbb\" tg-width=\"1536\" tg-height=\"704\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>ipopba/iStock via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>Article Thesis</b></p>\n<p>NIO, Inc. (NIO) is one of China's leading EV players, and has, through an attractive brand and its unique BaaS offering, attracted a lot of interest from consumers and investors. Today, however, the company is still way smaller than Tesla (TSLA), which is currently leading the global EV market. NIO is focused on its home market right now, which was true when Tesla was a smaller company as well, but NIO will try to grab market share in overseas markets as well. Shares are pricing in a lot of growth already, but if NIO can replicate Tesla's success, that could be more than justified.</p>\n<p><b>NIO And TSLA Stock Prices</b></p>\n<p>Both companies have benefitted from growing interest in EVs during 2020, a trend that saw share prices of most EV pureplays rise rapidly. The combination of growing market share for EVs, accommodating policies such as subsidies for EV purchases, and massive monetary stimulus let shares of NIO and TSLA rise rapidly. NIO is up 245% over the last year, while TSLA is up 101% over the same time. Both companies are currently trading below their all-time highs, however, which were hit in early 2021 before market sentiment for EV pureplays cooled to some degree.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5ff5ce865807df85283775d2293b41af\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"481\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>Taking a quick look at analyst price targets, we see that Tesla is trading almost perfectly in line with the consensus, whereas NIO trades about 30% below the analyst target. If the analyst community is right, then NIO is a substantially better investment right here, as Tesla is not expected to see its shares rise meaningfully over the next year, whereas NIO has significant upside to the analyst price target.</p>\n<p><b>Is NIO Similar To Tesla?</b></p>\n<p>The answer to that question depends on what you focus on. There are similarities between the two companies, but there are also differences. One could thus say that, in some ways, the two are similar, but in others, they are not. Let's look at a couple of things:</p>\n<p><b>Business Model</b></p>\n<p>Both companies are focused on the EV space, although Tesla has, over the years, been building out a couple of other businesses as well, such as energy storage. Most of Tesla's revenues are generated through selling electric vehicles, which is also how NIO operates. Both companies are focused on the premium segment of EVs, selling higher-priced vehicles that compete with brands such as BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus. Both companies offer a small range of different vehicles, in Tesla's case those are the well-known S, X, 3, and Y, whereas NIO offers a sedan (ET7), and three SUVs (EC6, ES6, ES8). Despite the fact that NIO is a way smaller company today, the model lineups of the two companies do thus not differ too much.</p>\n<p>Both companies offer some type of charging infrastructure to their customers, in Tesla's case, that's the Supercharger network, where Tesla owners can charge their cars with up to 250kW, depending on what version of Supercharger is installed. NIO is following a different approach, offering a battery-as-a-service solution to its customers. NIO owners can get their battery switched out to a fully-charged battery at NIO's stations, a process that takes a couple of minutes and is thus significantly quicker compared to the regular EV charging offered by Tesla and other EV players. BaaS thus has advantages when it comes to the time it takes for a charge/swap, but it should be noted that Tesla's Superchargers are way more common around the world compared to NIO's battery-swapping stations. Rolling out that feature in additional markets will require large capital expenditures, but NIO's offering is a unique selling point compared to what all other EV players, including Tesla, are offering. It remains to be seen whether that will ultimately pay off, but this could become a major advantage for NIO as competition in the EV space is heating up.</p>\n<p><b>Size, growth, and valuation</b></p>\n<p>The two companies differ significantly in size, both when it comes to revenues and vehicle sales, as well as when it comes to the market value of the two companies. NIO has delivered22,000 vehicles in Q2, up 112% year over year, for an annual pace of around 90,000 vehicles. Tesla, meanwhile, has delivered 201,000 vehicles during Q2, up from 103,000 vehicles delivered during Q2 2020. This is strong growth on a year-over-year basis, although slightly below 100%, and thus below the growth rate that NIO is generating for now.</p>\n<p>Tesla delivers around 9x as many vehicles compared to NIO per quarter, when we look at the market capitalizations of the two companies, we see that the ratio is almost exactly the same, as Tesla's market cap of $640 billion is ~9x as high as that of NIO, at $72 billion. At similar growth rates, that would make perfect sense, but it looks like NIO might be the better deal for now, as it trades at a comparable valuation while generating better growth. This will be especially true in the coming quarters, where Tesla's growth is expected to slow down:</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a986ea65130206f99961a46ce6cfed55\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"515\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>Data by YCharts</span></p>\n<p>Tesla is forecasted to grow its revenue from $49 billion in 2021 to $83 billion in 2023, for an annual growth rate of 30%. NIO, meanwhile, is expected to see its revenue explode upwards from $5.4 billion to $12.8 billion between 2021 and 2023, for an annual growth rate of 54%. NIO is thus expected to grow way faster than Tesla over the next two years, on a relative basis. This shouldn't be a surprise, to be honest, as the law of large numbers dictates that maintaining massive growth rates becomes increasingly hard for a company the bigger it gets, and Tesla seems to have hit that point by now -- adding 50%+ a year to its top line will not be possible forever. This isn't even necessarily Tesla's fault, in fact, many high-quality growth companies have experienced the same. But investors should still consider this important fact -- Tesla's growth in coming years will be less exciting compared to what we have seen in the past, and peers, such as NIO, are growing faster.</p>\n<p>The same holds true when we take a longer-term view. Revenue estimates for 2025 rest at$22.6 billionfor NIO, up another 80% from the 2023 estimate, and up 320% from what analysts are forecasting for 2021. Tesla, meanwhile, is forecasted to generate revenues of $122.5 billion in 2025 -- a large number, but up by a comparatively weak 48% from 2023, and up by a total of 150% versus 2021. Between 2021 and 2025, NIO will thus 4x its revenue, while Tesla will 2.5x its revenue in the same time span -- a meaningful difference that should, all else equal, allow for a premium valuation for NIO, in the same way Tesla deserves a premium valuation versus legacy players such as Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY).</p>\n<p>Looking at revenue estimates for 2025 relative to how the two companies are valued today, we see that NIO trades at 3.2x 2025 sales, while the 2025 sales multiple for Tesla is 5.2. For a long-term oriented investor, NIO thus seems like the better value today, thanks to the fact that it is trading at a significantly lower sales multiple when we take a look into the future. This does not necessarily mean that NIO is cheap, however, as even a 3.2x 2025 sales multiple is relatively high compared to how legacy auto companies are valued. NIO is looking less expensive than Tesla, however, even if its shares are not cheap on an absolute basis.</p>\n<p><b>Can NIO Be Worth As Much As Tesla?</b></p>\n<p>The answer to that depends on what time frame you are looking at. Today, NIO is significantly smaller than Tesla and thus rightfully trades at a way smaller market cap. It should also be noted that there is no guarantee that Tesla's shares are a great example of how an EV company should be valued -- it is, at least, possible that its shares are significantly&nbsp;overpriced&nbsp;today, I personally believe that as well (Note that some will argue that shares are&nbsp;underpriced, which is also among the possibilities, although I do not hold that belief personally).</p>\n<p>When we do, for a moment, assume that Tesla is correctly valued today and that EV companies do deserve a market cap in the $600 billion range when they sell about 800,000 vehicles a year, then NIO could eventually hit that as well, although not in the near term. NIO will sell about 90,000 vehicles this year, and that amount should grow to about 400,000 in 2025. If NIO were to grow its sales by 15% a year beyond that point, it could sell around 800,000 cars in 2030, or 9 years from now. If one wants to assume faster growth, the 800,000 vehicles a year line could also be crossed before 2030, e.g. in 2028 or 2029. If we do go with 2030 for now, then NIO could, at a similar deliveries-to-market capitalization ratio to Tesla, be valued at $600+ billion in 2030. In other words, NIO could be worth as much as Tesla (today) in nine years, when we assume that current growth projections are realistic and that a Tesla-like valuation is appropriate. Those are two major ifs, of course, and especially the second point is far from certain, I believe. I personally would not be too surprised to see Tesla's valuation compress, and thus NIO could trade well below the $600 billion market cap level in 2030, even if it continues to grow meaningfully. It is also possible that NIO's growth disappoints and that current projections are too bullish, although I think that NIO is well-positioned for growth thanks to its unique BaaS model and its strong brand that is especially well-recognized in its home market.</p>\n<p>It should also be noted that Tesla's market cap in 2030 could be very different from $600 billion, thus even in case NIO hits that level, it is not at all guaranteed that the two companies will have a similar market cap. Tesla might be valued at a way higher valuation by then, e.g. if the ARK model is right (something I personally think is unlikely). To answer the above question, one could thus say that NIO might be worth hundreds of billions of dollars, like Tesla, in 8-10 years, but that is not at all guaranteed. And even if that were to happen, Tesla might be worth significantly more by then.</p>\n<p><b>Is NIO A Good Stock To Buy Or Sell Now?</b></p>\n<p>When considering NIO as an investment, it doesn't really matter all that much whether it will become as large or highly valued as Tesla eventually. Instead, investors should ask themselves what total returns they can expect over the next couple of years, and whether those expected returns are high enough relative to the risks in NIO's business model. Regarding those risks, one should mention the fact that the company isn't profitable yet, which means that NIO is dependent on cash on its balance sheet for growth investments. On top of that, competition in the EV space is growing, and market share battles could pressure margins in coming years, although NIO seems relatively well-positioned thanks to its battery-swapping, which is, I believe, a strong USP. Last but not least, the company's dependence on its home market China is a potential risk that should be kept in mind, although it should also be noted that, for now, it seems like the Chinese government is very accommodating to Chinese EV companies.</p>\n<p>One could argue that valuations across the whole EV industry are too high, relative to how legacy auto companies are valued. Even those legacy players with attractive EV offerings such as Volkswagen or Ford trade at huge discounts compared to EV pureplays. But if one wants to invest in an EV pureplay, NIO doesn't seem like a bad choice. The company combines a strong brand, a unique BaaS offering, high growth rates, and shares trade at a discount compared to how the EV king Tesla is valued. At a little above 3x 2025 revenue, NIO does not seem overly expensive relative to other EV pureplays, although this still represents a premium versus legacy players, of course. If NIO manages to execute well and continues to roll out new models that are well-received by consumers, its shares could have significant upside potential in the long run. If EV stocks ever become an out-of-favor investment, NIO stock also could have considerable downside, however, this thus is not a low-risk pick. Depending on your risk tolerance, NIO could still be of value if you want a high-growth EV pureplay.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Will NIO Stock Follow Tesla's Footsteps? 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What To Consider Between These Two EV Stocks\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-07-24 09:16 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4440950-will-nio-stock-follow-tesla-what-to-consider-ev-stocks><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Summary\n\nLet's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.\nNIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4440950-will-nio-stock-follow-tesla-what-to-consider-ev-stocks\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉","NIO":"蔚来"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4440950-will-nio-stock-follow-tesla-what-to-consider-ev-stocks","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1112927800","content_text":"Summary\n\nLet's take a look at how NIO compares to Tesla today, NIO's unique selling points, and the similarities between the two companies.\nNIO is a high-growth choice that does not seem overly expensive relative to how Tesla is valued.\nNIO is not a low-risk stock, however, and it may not be a good choice for everyone. Investors should also consider NIO's valuation versus legacy car companies.\n\nipopba/iStock via Getty Images\nArticle Thesis\nNIO, Inc. (NIO) is one of China's leading EV players, and has, through an attractive brand and its unique BaaS offering, attracted a lot of interest from consumers and investors. Today, however, the company is still way smaller than Tesla (TSLA), which is currently leading the global EV market. NIO is focused on its home market right now, which was true when Tesla was a smaller company as well, but NIO will try to grab market share in overseas markets as well. Shares are pricing in a lot of growth already, but if NIO can replicate Tesla's success, that could be more than justified.\nNIO And TSLA Stock Prices\nBoth companies have benefitted from growing interest in EVs during 2020, a trend that saw share prices of most EV pureplays rise rapidly. The combination of growing market share for EVs, accommodating policies such as subsidies for EV purchases, and massive monetary stimulus let shares of NIO and TSLA rise rapidly. NIO is up 245% over the last year, while TSLA is up 101% over the same time. Both companies are currently trading below their all-time highs, however, which were hit in early 2021 before market sentiment for EV pureplays cooled to some degree.\nData by YCharts\nTaking a quick look at analyst price targets, we see that Tesla is trading almost perfectly in line with the consensus, whereas NIO trades about 30% below the analyst target. If the analyst community is right, then NIO is a substantially better investment right here, as Tesla is not expected to see its shares rise meaningfully over the next year, whereas NIO has significant upside to the analyst price target.\nIs NIO Similar To Tesla?\nThe answer to that question depends on what you focus on. There are similarities between the two companies, but there are also differences. One could thus say that, in some ways, the two are similar, but in others, they are not. Let's look at a couple of things:\nBusiness Model\nBoth companies are focused on the EV space, although Tesla has, over the years, been building out a couple of other businesses as well, such as energy storage. Most of Tesla's revenues are generated through selling electric vehicles, which is also how NIO operates. Both companies are focused on the premium segment of EVs, selling higher-priced vehicles that compete with brands such as BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus. Both companies offer a small range of different vehicles, in Tesla's case those are the well-known S, X, 3, and Y, whereas NIO offers a sedan (ET7), and three SUVs (EC6, ES6, ES8). Despite the fact that NIO is a way smaller company today, the model lineups of the two companies do thus not differ too much.\nBoth companies offer some type of charging infrastructure to their customers, in Tesla's case, that's the Supercharger network, where Tesla owners can charge their cars with up to 250kW, depending on what version of Supercharger is installed. NIO is following a different approach, offering a battery-as-a-service solution to its customers. NIO owners can get their battery switched out to a fully-charged battery at NIO's stations, a process that takes a couple of minutes and is thus significantly quicker compared to the regular EV charging offered by Tesla and other EV players. BaaS thus has advantages when it comes to the time it takes for a charge/swap, but it should be noted that Tesla's Superchargers are way more common around the world compared to NIO's battery-swapping stations. Rolling out that feature in additional markets will require large capital expenditures, but NIO's offering is a unique selling point compared to what all other EV players, including Tesla, are offering. It remains to be seen whether that will ultimately pay off, but this could become a major advantage for NIO as competition in the EV space is heating up.\nSize, growth, and valuation\nThe two companies differ significantly in size, both when it comes to revenues and vehicle sales, as well as when it comes to the market value of the two companies. NIO has delivered22,000 vehicles in Q2, up 112% year over year, for an annual pace of around 90,000 vehicles. Tesla, meanwhile, has delivered 201,000 vehicles during Q2, up from 103,000 vehicles delivered during Q2 2020. This is strong growth on a year-over-year basis, although slightly below 100%, and thus below the growth rate that NIO is generating for now.\nTesla delivers around 9x as many vehicles compared to NIO per quarter, when we look at the market capitalizations of the two companies, we see that the ratio is almost exactly the same, as Tesla's market cap of $640 billion is ~9x as high as that of NIO, at $72 billion. At similar growth rates, that would make perfect sense, but it looks like NIO might be the better deal for now, as it trades at a comparable valuation while generating better growth. This will be especially true in the coming quarters, where Tesla's growth is expected to slow down:\nData by YCharts\nTesla is forecasted to grow its revenue from $49 billion in 2021 to $83 billion in 2023, for an annual growth rate of 30%. NIO, meanwhile, is expected to see its revenue explode upwards from $5.4 billion to $12.8 billion between 2021 and 2023, for an annual growth rate of 54%. NIO is thus expected to grow way faster than Tesla over the next two years, on a relative basis. This shouldn't be a surprise, to be honest, as the law of large numbers dictates that maintaining massive growth rates becomes increasingly hard for a company the bigger it gets, and Tesla seems to have hit that point by now -- adding 50%+ a year to its top line will not be possible forever. This isn't even necessarily Tesla's fault, in fact, many high-quality growth companies have experienced the same. But investors should still consider this important fact -- Tesla's growth in coming years will be less exciting compared to what we have seen in the past, and peers, such as NIO, are growing faster.\nThe same holds true when we take a longer-term view. Revenue estimates for 2025 rest at$22.6 billionfor NIO, up another 80% from the 2023 estimate, and up 320% from what analysts are forecasting for 2021. Tesla, meanwhile, is forecasted to generate revenues of $122.5 billion in 2025 -- a large number, but up by a comparatively weak 48% from 2023, and up by a total of 150% versus 2021. Between 2021 and 2025, NIO will thus 4x its revenue, while Tesla will 2.5x its revenue in the same time span -- a meaningful difference that should, all else equal, allow for a premium valuation for NIO, in the same way Tesla deserves a premium valuation versus legacy players such as Volkswagen (OTCPK:VWAGY).\nLooking at revenue estimates for 2025 relative to how the two companies are valued today, we see that NIO trades at 3.2x 2025 sales, while the 2025 sales multiple for Tesla is 5.2. For a long-term oriented investor, NIO thus seems like the better value today, thanks to the fact that it is trading at a significantly lower sales multiple when we take a look into the future. This does not necessarily mean that NIO is cheap, however, as even a 3.2x 2025 sales multiple is relatively high compared to how legacy auto companies are valued. NIO is looking less expensive than Tesla, however, even if its shares are not cheap on an absolute basis.\nCan NIO Be Worth As Much As Tesla?\nThe answer to that depends on what time frame you are looking at. Today, NIO is significantly smaller than Tesla and thus rightfully trades at a way smaller market cap. It should also be noted that there is no guarantee that Tesla's shares are a great example of how an EV company should be valued -- it is, at least, possible that its shares are significantly overpriced today, I personally believe that as well (Note that some will argue that shares are underpriced, which is also among the possibilities, although I do not hold that belief personally).\nWhen we do, for a moment, assume that Tesla is correctly valued today and that EV companies do deserve a market cap in the $600 billion range when they sell about 800,000 vehicles a year, then NIO could eventually hit that as well, although not in the near term. NIO will sell about 90,000 vehicles this year, and that amount should grow to about 400,000 in 2025. If NIO were to grow its sales by 15% a year beyond that point, it could sell around 800,000 cars in 2030, or 9 years from now. If one wants to assume faster growth, the 800,000 vehicles a year line could also be crossed before 2030, e.g. in 2028 or 2029. If we do go with 2030 for now, then NIO could, at a similar deliveries-to-market capitalization ratio to Tesla, be valued at $600+ billion in 2030. In other words, NIO could be worth as much as Tesla (today) in nine years, when we assume that current growth projections are realistic and that a Tesla-like valuation is appropriate. Those are two major ifs, of course, and especially the second point is far from certain, I believe. I personally would not be too surprised to see Tesla's valuation compress, and thus NIO could trade well below the $600 billion market cap level in 2030, even if it continues to grow meaningfully. It is also possible that NIO's growth disappoints and that current projections are too bullish, although I think that NIO is well-positioned for growth thanks to its unique BaaS model and its strong brand that is especially well-recognized in its home market.\nIt should also be noted that Tesla's market cap in 2030 could be very different from $600 billion, thus even in case NIO hits that level, it is not at all guaranteed that the two companies will have a similar market cap. Tesla might be valued at a way higher valuation by then, e.g. if the ARK model is right (something I personally think is unlikely). To answer the above question, one could thus say that NIO might be worth hundreds of billions of dollars, like Tesla, in 8-10 years, but that is not at all guaranteed. And even if that were to happen, Tesla might be worth significantly more by then.\nIs NIO A Good Stock To Buy Or Sell Now?\nWhen considering NIO as an investment, it doesn't really matter all that much whether it will become as large or highly valued as Tesla eventually. Instead, investors should ask themselves what total returns they can expect over the next couple of years, and whether those expected returns are high enough relative to the risks in NIO's business model. Regarding those risks, one should mention the fact that the company isn't profitable yet, which means that NIO is dependent on cash on its balance sheet for growth investments. On top of that, competition in the EV space is growing, and market share battles could pressure margins in coming years, although NIO seems relatively well-positioned thanks to its battery-swapping, which is, I believe, a strong USP. Last but not least, the company's dependence on its home market China is a potential risk that should be kept in mind, although it should also be noted that, for now, it seems like the Chinese government is very accommodating to Chinese EV companies.\nOne could argue that valuations across the whole EV industry are too high, relative to how legacy auto companies are valued. Even those legacy players with attractive EV offerings such as Volkswagen or Ford trade at huge discounts compared to EV pureplays. But if one wants to invest in an EV pureplay, NIO doesn't seem like a bad choice. The company combines a strong brand, a unique BaaS offering, high growth rates, and shares trade at a discount compared to how the EV king Tesla is valued. At a little above 3x 2025 revenue, NIO does not seem overly expensive relative to other EV pureplays, although this still represents a premium versus legacy players, of course. If NIO manages to execute well and continues to roll out new models that are well-received by consumers, its shares could have significant upside potential in the long run. If EV stocks ever become an out-of-favor investment, NIO stock also could have considerable downside, however, this thus is not a low-risk pick. Depending on your risk tolerance, NIO could still be of value if you want a high-growth EV pureplay.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":504,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":142103260,"gmtCreate":1626134935250,"gmtModify":1703753925303,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Good","listText":"Good","text":"Good","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/142103260","repostId":"1144812338","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":273,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":143181575,"gmtCreate":1625781546697,"gmtModify":1703748274750,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Hi","listText":"Hi","text":"Hi","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/143181575","repostId":"2149328960","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2149328960","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Reuters.com brings you the latest news from around the world, covering breaking news in markets, business, politics, entertainment and technology","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Reuters","id":"1036604489","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868"},"pubTimestamp":1625756309,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2149328960?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-07-08 22:58","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Wells Fargo Tells Customers It's Shuttering All Personal Lines Of Credit","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2149328960","media":"Reuters","summary":"Wells Fargo is ending a popular consumer lending product, angering some of its customers, CNBC has l","content":"<p>Wells Fargo&nbsp;is ending a popular consumer lending product, angering some of its customers, CNBC has learned.</p>\n<p>The bank is shutting down all existing personal lines of credit in coming weeks and no longer offers the product, according to customer letters reviewed by CNBC.</p>\n<p>The revolving credit lines, which typically let users borrow $3,000 to $100,000, were pitched as a way to consolidate higher-interest credit-card debt, pay for home renovations or avoid overdraft fees on linked checking accounts.</p>\n<p>\"Wells Fargo recently reviewed its product offerings and decided to discontinue offering new Personal and Portfolio line of credit accounts and close all existing accounts,\" the bank said in the six-page letter. The move would let the bank focus on credit cards and personal loans, it said.</p>\n<p>Wells Fargo CEOCharles Scharfhas been forced to make difficult decisions during the pandemic,offloadingassets and deposits and stepping back from some products because of limitations imposed by the Federal Reserve. In 2018, the Fed barred Wells Fargo from growing its balance sheet until it fixes compliance shortcomings revealed by thebank's fake accounts scandal.</p>\n<p>The asset cap has ultimately cost the bank billions of dollars in lost earnings, based on the balance sheet growth of rivals includingJPMorgan ChaseandBank of Americaover the past three years, analysts havesaid.</p>\n<p>It has also affected Wells Fargo's customers: Last year, the lender told staff it washalting allnew home equity lines of credit, CNBC reported. Months later, the bank also withdrew from a segment of theauto lending business.</p>\n<p>With its latest move, Wells Fargo warned customers that the account closures \"may have an impact on your credit score,\" according to a Frequently Asked Questions segment of the letter.</p>\n<p>Another part of the FAQ asserted that the account closures couldn't be reviewed or reversed: \"We apologize for the inconvenience this Line of Credit closure will cause,\" the bank said. \"The account closure is final.\"</p>\n<p>\"Simplify offerings\"</p>\n<p>Wells Fargo didn't directly answer questions as to what role, if any, the Fed asset cap played in its latest move.</p>\n<p>The bank gave this statement: \"In an effort to simplify our product offerings, we've made the decision to no longer offer personal lines of credit as we feel we can better meet the borrowing needs of our customers through credit card and personal loan products.\"</p>\n<p>Customers have been given a 60-day notice that their accounts will be shuttered, and remaining balances will require regular minimum payments, according to the statement.</p>\n<p>The move is a strange one given the banking industry's need to boost loan growth.</p>\n<p>After a burst of commercial lending during the early days of the pandemic, loan growth has been hard to muster. Corporations have used money raised in stock and debt issuance to retire bank credit lines, and consumers stuck at home had fewer reasons to use credit cards.</p>\n<p>In fact, last year big banks experienced the first aggregate drop in loans in more than a decade,accordingto Barclays bank analyst Jason Goldberg. Of the four largest U.S. banks, Wells Fargo saw the worst decline.</p>\n<p>After banks saw that borrowers held up far better than they had initially feared, the industry recently began marketingnew credit cardswith large sign-on bonuses in an effort to boost lending.</p>\n<p>Making the switch</p>\n<p>Wells Fargo doesn't disclose how many customers used the credit lines it is eliminating. It had$24.9 billionin loans in a category called \"other consumer\" as of March, which was 26% lower than the year-earlier period.</p>\n<p>One customer said the change is prompting him to switch banks after more than a decade with Wells Fargo. Tim Tomassi, a Portland, Oregon programmer, said that he used a personal line of credit linked to his checking account to avoid expensive overdraft fees.</p>\n<p>\"It's a bit upsetting,\" Tomassi said in a phone interview. \"They're a big bank, and I'm a small person, and it feels like they're making decisions for their bottom line and not for customers. A lot of people are in my position, they need a cushion every once in a while from a line of credit.\"</p>\n<p>Tomassi said he is considering opening an account at&nbsp;Allyor&nbsp;Chime, banking players that don't chargeoverdraft fees.</p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Wells Fargo Tells Customers It's Shuttering All Personal Lines Of Credit</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWells Fargo Tells Customers It's Shuttering All Personal Lines Of Credit\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1036604489\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Reuters </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2021-07-08 22:58</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<p>Wells Fargo&nbsp;is ending a popular consumer lending product, angering some of its customers, CNBC has learned.</p>\n<p>The bank is shutting down all existing personal lines of credit in coming weeks and no longer offers the product, according to customer letters reviewed by CNBC.</p>\n<p>The revolving credit lines, which typically let users borrow $3,000 to $100,000, were pitched as a way to consolidate higher-interest credit-card debt, pay for home renovations or avoid overdraft fees on linked checking accounts.</p>\n<p>\"Wells Fargo recently reviewed its product offerings and decided to discontinue offering new Personal and Portfolio line of credit accounts and close all existing accounts,\" the bank said in the six-page letter. The move would let the bank focus on credit cards and personal loans, it said.</p>\n<p>Wells Fargo CEOCharles Scharfhas been forced to make difficult decisions during the pandemic,offloadingassets and deposits and stepping back from some products because of limitations imposed by the Federal Reserve. In 2018, the Fed barred Wells Fargo from growing its balance sheet until it fixes compliance shortcomings revealed by thebank's fake accounts scandal.</p>\n<p>The asset cap has ultimately cost the bank billions of dollars in lost earnings, based on the balance sheet growth of rivals includingJPMorgan ChaseandBank of Americaover the past three years, analysts havesaid.</p>\n<p>It has also affected Wells Fargo's customers: Last year, the lender told staff it washalting allnew home equity lines of credit, CNBC reported. Months later, the bank also withdrew from a segment of theauto lending business.</p>\n<p>With its latest move, Wells Fargo warned customers that the account closures \"may have an impact on your credit score,\" according to a Frequently Asked Questions segment of the letter.</p>\n<p>Another part of the FAQ asserted that the account closures couldn't be reviewed or reversed: \"We apologize for the inconvenience this Line of Credit closure will cause,\" the bank said. \"The account closure is final.\"</p>\n<p>\"Simplify offerings\"</p>\n<p>Wells Fargo didn't directly answer questions as to what role, if any, the Fed asset cap played in its latest move.</p>\n<p>The bank gave this statement: \"In an effort to simplify our product offerings, we've made the decision to no longer offer personal lines of credit as we feel we can better meet the borrowing needs of our customers through credit card and personal loan products.\"</p>\n<p>Customers have been given a 60-day notice that their accounts will be shuttered, and remaining balances will require regular minimum payments, according to the statement.</p>\n<p>The move is a strange one given the banking industry's need to boost loan growth.</p>\n<p>After a burst of commercial lending during the early days of the pandemic, loan growth has been hard to muster. Corporations have used money raised in stock and debt issuance to retire bank credit lines, and consumers stuck at home had fewer reasons to use credit cards.</p>\n<p>In fact, last year big banks experienced the first aggregate drop in loans in more than a decade,accordingto Barclays bank analyst Jason Goldberg. Of the four largest U.S. banks, Wells Fargo saw the worst decline.</p>\n<p>After banks saw that borrowers held up far better than they had initially feared, the industry recently began marketingnew credit cardswith large sign-on bonuses in an effort to boost lending.</p>\n<p>Making the switch</p>\n<p>Wells Fargo doesn't disclose how many customers used the credit lines it is eliminating. It had$24.9 billionin loans in a category called \"other consumer\" as of March, which was 26% lower than the year-earlier period.</p>\n<p>One customer said the change is prompting him to switch banks after more than a decade with Wells Fargo. Tim Tomassi, a Portland, Oregon programmer, said that he used a personal line of credit linked to his checking account to avoid expensive overdraft fees.</p>\n<p>\"It's a bit upsetting,\" Tomassi said in a phone interview. \"They're a big bank, and I'm a small person, and it feels like they're making decisions for their bottom line and not for customers. A lot of people are in my position, they need a cushion every once in a while from a line of credit.\"</p>\n<p>Tomassi said he is considering opening an account at&nbsp;Allyor&nbsp;Chime, banking players that don't chargeoverdraft fees.</p>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"CUBI":"Customers Bancorp Inc.","WFC":"富国银行"},"is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2149328960","content_text":"Wells Fargo is ending a popular consumer lending product, angering some of its customers, CNBC has learned.\nThe bank is shutting down all existing personal lines of credit in coming weeks and no longer offers the product, according to customer letters reviewed by CNBC.\nThe revolving credit lines, which typically let users borrow $3,000 to $100,000, were pitched as a way to consolidate higher-interest credit-card debt, pay for home renovations or avoid overdraft fees on linked checking accounts.\n\"Wells Fargo recently reviewed its product offerings and decided to discontinue offering new Personal and Portfolio line of credit accounts and close all existing accounts,\" the bank said in the six-page letter. The move would let the bank focus on credit cards and personal loans, it said.\nWells Fargo CEOCharles Scharfhas been forced to make difficult decisions during the pandemic,offloadingassets and deposits and stepping back from some products because of limitations imposed by the Federal Reserve. In 2018, the Fed barred Wells Fargo from growing its balance sheet until it fixes compliance shortcomings revealed by thebank's fake accounts scandal.\nThe asset cap has ultimately cost the bank billions of dollars in lost earnings, based on the balance sheet growth of rivals includingJPMorgan ChaseandBank of Americaover the past three years, analysts havesaid.\nIt has also affected Wells Fargo's customers: Last year, the lender told staff it washalting allnew home equity lines of credit, CNBC reported. Months later, the bank also withdrew from a segment of theauto lending business.\nWith its latest move, Wells Fargo warned customers that the account closures \"may have an impact on your credit score,\" according to a Frequently Asked Questions segment of the letter.\nAnother part of the FAQ asserted that the account closures couldn't be reviewed or reversed: \"We apologize for the inconvenience this Line of Credit closure will cause,\" the bank said. \"The account closure is final.\"\n\"Simplify offerings\"\nWells Fargo didn't directly answer questions as to what role, if any, the Fed asset cap played in its latest move.\nThe bank gave this statement: \"In an effort to simplify our product offerings, we've made the decision to no longer offer personal lines of credit as we feel we can better meet the borrowing needs of our customers through credit card and personal loan products.\"\nCustomers have been given a 60-day notice that their accounts will be shuttered, and remaining balances will require regular minimum payments, according to the statement.\nThe move is a strange one given the banking industry's need to boost loan growth.\nAfter a burst of commercial lending during the early days of the pandemic, loan growth has been hard to muster. Corporations have used money raised in stock and debt issuance to retire bank credit lines, and consumers stuck at home had fewer reasons to use credit cards.\nIn fact, last year big banks experienced the first aggregate drop in loans in more than a decade,accordingto Barclays bank analyst Jason Goldberg. Of the four largest U.S. banks, Wells Fargo saw the worst decline.\nAfter banks saw that borrowers held up far better than they had initially feared, the industry recently began marketingnew credit cardswith large sign-on bonuses in an effort to boost lending.\nMaking the switch\nWells Fargo doesn't disclose how many customers used the credit lines it is eliminating. It had$24.9 billionin loans in a category called \"other consumer\" as of March, which was 26% lower than the year-earlier period.\nOne customer said the change is prompting him to switch banks after more than a decade with Wells Fargo. Tim Tomassi, a Portland, Oregon programmer, said that he used a personal line of credit linked to his checking account to avoid expensive overdraft fees.\n\"It's a bit upsetting,\" Tomassi said in a phone interview. \"They're a big bank, and I'm a small person, and it feels like they're making decisions for their bottom line and not for customers. A lot of people are in my position, they need a cushion every once in a while from a line of credit.\"\nTomassi said he is considering opening an account at Allyor Chime, banking players that don't chargeoverdraft fees.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":138,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":129961191,"gmtCreate":1624352083813,"gmtModify":1703834174378,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Hi","listText":"Hi","text":"Hi","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/129961191","repostId":"1130511444","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1130511444","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1624351539,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1130511444?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-06-22 16:45","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Nvidia Hedges Against Crypto Hangover With Chips Just for Miners","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1130511444","media":"Bloomberg","summary":"(Bloomberg) -- Nvidia Corp. has an unlikely message for some of its most voracious customers: please","content":"<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/38eb10ea6dbcda3cbe80cbebd5a56f10\" tg-width=\"704\" tg-height=\"396\">(Bloomberg) -- Nvidia Corp. has an unlikely message for some of its most voracious customers: please don’t buy our latest high-end computer-graphics chip.</p>\n<p>The GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, a $1,199 graphics card, and the RTX 3070 Ti, which costs about half that amount, have had some of their capabilities deliberately stripped out. Nvidia wants them to be the exclusive preserve of its core gamer customer base and is nixing the products’ ability to effectively mine cryptocurrencies like Ethereum and Bitcoin, seeking to discourage miners from snapping up all the supply to build massive crypto-processing farms. Instead, Nvidia is pushing a chip just for the miners.Nvidia’s extreme action is one result of the rising influence of cryptocurrencies, touching on the retail market, the environment and the worlds of finance and technology. Virtual currencies have been in the news as the preferred ransom payment method of cyber attackers. Elon Musk tweets about them more often than he does about his carmaker, Tesla Inc. And as they attract new investors and participants daily, cryptocurrencies have grown more unpredictable and hungrier for the hardware used to generate them.Jensen Huang, Nvidia’s chief executive officer, is swimming against this crypto tide. His company needs to avoid a repeat of the 2017 run-up in demand for its graphics chips, which are the most efficient off-the-shelf chips for solving math problems to create the codes that are the basis of cryptocurrencies.</p>\n<p>While surging demand is rarely a bad thing, in the past this particular trend has heralded a crash -- when the market price of digital currencies soars, miners tend to move on from graphics cards to pricier custom chips optimized for the algorithm they target. That has left graphics-card makers with a drop in demand even more sudden than the initial surge -- and a glut of unsold inventory made worse by a flood of used cards into the second-hand market as miners dumped them.</p>\n<p>In November 2018, having just witnessed such a reaction, Nvidia had to cut its annual sales forecast to $2.7 billion, falling $700 million shy of analysts’ estimates. That disappointment caused investors to dump the stock, resulting in a loss of 20% of its price in two trading days.</p>\n<p>To hedge against another round of this boom and bust, Nvidia has limited the so-called hash rate on its newest graphics chips and some existing products, a change that makes them inefficient for mining. Importantly, that limitation has no impact on the chips’ ability to make the gaming world more realistic in a way that players will pay heavily for.The problem for the most valuable U.S. chipmaker is the difficulty in knowing exactly how many graphics cards it’s selling to gamers -- a more consistent market with foreseeable surges in demand around gift-giving seasons and marquee game releases -- and how many wind up in the hands of crypto miners. Often, those groups overlap.</p>\n<p>Instead of buying finished PCs, crypto miners build a processing infrastructure more akin to a data center or a supercomputer: lots of task-specific components strung together into a unified system. A crypto farm is essentially the biggest accumulation of processors that the miner can assemble to generate tokens. One graphics card is good. Many graphics cards are better.</p>\n<p>Jon Peddie Research, which specializes in tracking the graphics card market, estimates that about 25% of the add-in graphics cards -- those built on their own circuit board and offering more power than embedded graphics -- that were shipped in the first quarter of 2021 went to miners or people looking to resell them for a profit. That’s about 700,000 cards, for a total value of $500 million, the research firm said.Shortages, compounded by the Covid-19 pandemic’s pressure on supply chains and demand across the gaming industry, have led to speculation in the cards. A quick check on EBay and other online retailers shows second-hand Nvidia cards -- of models that preceded the RTX 3080 Ti -- being offered at more than $500 more than the price Nvidia wants for its new top-tier model.</p>\n<p>Nvidia’s GeForce RTX 3080 graphics card first went on sale last September at $699. In May that part was going for $2,582 and is currently selling for a premium of 139% over the launch price, according to StockX, an online marketplace that tracks the prices of consumer goods.“The worry from here would be that things could be too good given the pesky crypto environment,” Stacy Rasgon, an analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein, wrote in a research note. “It is admittedly likely true that at least some gaming business is currently being driven by crypto, which has the potential to bring back some unpleasant investor memories.”Rasgon said he thinks the risk this time is more manageable and less likely to yield an unpleasant shock. Nvidia has taken some steps to silo its markets.</p>\n<p>Chief among them is the introduction of crypto-mining processors, or CMPs, which Nvidia has created exclusively for miners. A $400 million chunk of second-quarter revenue will come from them, according to the company’s projections. They can’t be used in computers for gaming or any other conventional graphics-related tasks, Huang said in an interview. That cuts off the possibility of them flooding the secondary market later when miners decide to dump them in bulk as they upgrade to faster hardware.</p>\n<p>“With CMP we learned to move faster,” the CEO said. Huang said he thinks he’s inoculated Nvidia from the worst of any potential crash caused by crypto-mining graphics card use and disposal.</p>\n<p>Huang said he thinks crypto mining will continue and that the currencies are here to stay. He told reporters at the Computex show this month that he’s hoping that digital currency markets have reached the size that will make the special-purpose chips a worthwhile investment.</p>\n<p>Nvidia’s ideal position is one where it benefits from the crypto boom without jeopardizing its core market. It’s a lucrative prospect if the company strikes the right balance, since the CMPs are made from the rejects from its graphics card production. Chips deemed unfit to sell to gamers because of some fabrication or functional flaw would usually be discarded, but because they don’t need their full capabilities to be useful for mining, the company can repurpose them. It’s a bit of added operational efficiency that’s desperately needed at a time when the entire chip industry struggles to secure production capacity.Scale is key to Huang’s optimism about Nvidia getting things right this time. The company’s 2021 revenue will be more than double its 2018 total of $11.95 billion, according to analyst estimates. Its gaming business alone is now bigger than the whole company in 2018 and it has successfully grown its data center business, with those chips providing 36% of its revenue in the most recent quarter. Nvidia is now bigger and more diversified, and is taking preemptive measures to avoid another crypto collapse.</p>\n<p>Still, just like the volatile price of cryptocurrencies and the unpredictable new uses that they’re put to, fluctuations in the chip industry in recent times have grown bigger and more difficult to predict.</p>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Nvidia Hedges Against Crypto Hangover With Chips Just for Miners</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nNvidia Hedges Against Crypto Hangover With Chips Just for Miners\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-06-22 16:45 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-hedges-against-crypto-hangover-080000949.html><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>(Bloomberg) -- Nvidia Corp. has an unlikely message for some of its most voracious customers: please don’t buy our latest high-end computer-graphics chip.\nThe GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, a $1,199 graphics ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-hedges-against-crypto-hangover-080000949.html\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"NVDA":"英伟达"},"source_url":"https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-hedges-against-crypto-hangover-080000949.html","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1130511444","content_text":"(Bloomberg) -- Nvidia Corp. has an unlikely message for some of its most voracious customers: please don’t buy our latest high-end computer-graphics chip.\nThe GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, a $1,199 graphics card, and the RTX 3070 Ti, which costs about half that amount, have had some of their capabilities deliberately stripped out. Nvidia wants them to be the exclusive preserve of its core gamer customer base and is nixing the products’ ability to effectively mine cryptocurrencies like Ethereum and Bitcoin, seeking to discourage miners from snapping up all the supply to build massive crypto-processing farms. Instead, Nvidia is pushing a chip just for the miners.Nvidia’s extreme action is one result of the rising influence of cryptocurrencies, touching on the retail market, the environment and the worlds of finance and technology. Virtual currencies have been in the news as the preferred ransom payment method of cyber attackers. Elon Musk tweets about them more often than he does about his carmaker, Tesla Inc. And as they attract new investors and participants daily, cryptocurrencies have grown more unpredictable and hungrier for the hardware used to generate them.Jensen Huang, Nvidia’s chief executive officer, is swimming against this crypto tide. His company needs to avoid a repeat of the 2017 run-up in demand for its graphics chips, which are the most efficient off-the-shelf chips for solving math problems to create the codes that are the basis of cryptocurrencies.\nWhile surging demand is rarely a bad thing, in the past this particular trend has heralded a crash -- when the market price of digital currencies soars, miners tend to move on from graphics cards to pricier custom chips optimized for the algorithm they target. That has left graphics-card makers with a drop in demand even more sudden than the initial surge -- and a glut of unsold inventory made worse by a flood of used cards into the second-hand market as miners dumped them.\nIn November 2018, having just witnessed such a reaction, Nvidia had to cut its annual sales forecast to $2.7 billion, falling $700 million shy of analysts’ estimates. That disappointment caused investors to dump the stock, resulting in a loss of 20% of its price in two trading days.\nTo hedge against another round of this boom and bust, Nvidia has limited the so-called hash rate on its newest graphics chips and some existing products, a change that makes them inefficient for mining. Importantly, that limitation has no impact on the chips’ ability to make the gaming world more realistic in a way that players will pay heavily for.The problem for the most valuable U.S. chipmaker is the difficulty in knowing exactly how many graphics cards it’s selling to gamers -- a more consistent market with foreseeable surges in demand around gift-giving seasons and marquee game releases -- and how many wind up in the hands of crypto miners. Often, those groups overlap.\nInstead of buying finished PCs, crypto miners build a processing infrastructure more akin to a data center or a supercomputer: lots of task-specific components strung together into a unified system. A crypto farm is essentially the biggest accumulation of processors that the miner can assemble to generate tokens. One graphics card is good. Many graphics cards are better.\nJon Peddie Research, which specializes in tracking the graphics card market, estimates that about 25% of the add-in graphics cards -- those built on their own circuit board and offering more power than embedded graphics -- that were shipped in the first quarter of 2021 went to miners or people looking to resell them for a profit. That’s about 700,000 cards, for a total value of $500 million, the research firm said.Shortages, compounded by the Covid-19 pandemic’s pressure on supply chains and demand across the gaming industry, have led to speculation in the cards. A quick check on EBay and other online retailers shows second-hand Nvidia cards -- of models that preceded the RTX 3080 Ti -- being offered at more than $500 more than the price Nvidia wants for its new top-tier model.\nNvidia’s GeForce RTX 3080 graphics card first went on sale last September at $699. In May that part was going for $2,582 and is currently selling for a premium of 139% over the launch price, according to StockX, an online marketplace that tracks the prices of consumer goods.“The worry from here would be that things could be too good given the pesky crypto environment,” Stacy Rasgon, an analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein, wrote in a research note. “It is admittedly likely true that at least some gaming business is currently being driven by crypto, which has the potential to bring back some unpleasant investor memories.”Rasgon said he thinks the risk this time is more manageable and less likely to yield an unpleasant shock. Nvidia has taken some steps to silo its markets.\nChief among them is the introduction of crypto-mining processors, or CMPs, which Nvidia has created exclusively for miners. A $400 million chunk of second-quarter revenue will come from them, according to the company’s projections. They can’t be used in computers for gaming or any other conventional graphics-related tasks, Huang said in an interview. That cuts off the possibility of them flooding the secondary market later when miners decide to dump them in bulk as they upgrade to faster hardware.\n“With CMP we learned to move faster,” the CEO said. Huang said he thinks he’s inoculated Nvidia from the worst of any potential crash caused by crypto-mining graphics card use and disposal.\nHuang said he thinks crypto mining will continue and that the currencies are here to stay. He told reporters at the Computex show this month that he’s hoping that digital currency markets have reached the size that will make the special-purpose chips a worthwhile investment.\nNvidia’s ideal position is one where it benefits from the crypto boom without jeopardizing its core market. It’s a lucrative prospect if the company strikes the right balance, since the CMPs are made from the rejects from its graphics card production. Chips deemed unfit to sell to gamers because of some fabrication or functional flaw would usually be discarded, but because they don’t need their full capabilities to be useful for mining, the company can repurpose them. It’s a bit of added operational efficiency that’s desperately needed at a time when the entire chip industry struggles to secure production capacity.Scale is key to Huang’s optimism about Nvidia getting things right this time. The company’s 2021 revenue will be more than double its 2018 total of $11.95 billion, according to analyst estimates. Its gaming business alone is now bigger than the whole company in 2018 and it has successfully grown its data center business, with those chips providing 36% of its revenue in the most recent quarter. Nvidia is now bigger and more diversified, and is taking preemptive measures to avoid another crypto collapse.\nStill, just like the volatile price of cryptocurrencies and the unpredictable new uses that they’re put to, fluctuations in the chip industry in recent times have grown bigger and more difficult to predict.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":241,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":819458710,"gmtCreate":1630100412730,"gmtModify":1676530222971,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Like","listText":"Like","text":"Like","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/819458710","repostId":"1111790802","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":260,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":803058292,"gmtCreate":1627397834116,"gmtModify":1703489221969,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Hi","listText":"Hi","text":"Hi","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/803058292","repostId":"1124516451","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":144,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":803053168,"gmtCreate":1627397726454,"gmtModify":1703489218663,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Ok","listText":"Ok","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/803053168","repostId":"1185029173","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":295,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":175027335,"gmtCreate":1626999502327,"gmtModify":1703482071538,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Hi","listText":"Hi","text":"Hi","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/175027335","repostId":"1158008489","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1158008489","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1626999353,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1158008489?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-07-23 08:15","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Faraday Future Stock Is Popping. Here’s Why.","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1158008489","media":"Barrons","summary":"Stock in electric vehicle start-up Faraday Future is popping Thursday morning, and not for its compe","content":"<p>Stock in electric vehicle start-up Faraday Future is popping Thursday morning, and not for its compelling strategy. It isn’t going directly after Tesla. It just completed its merger with a SPAC and now has another $1 billion to use in the EV battle.</p>\n<p>Faraday Future closed its acquisition with SPAC Property Solutions Acquisition Corp Wednesday evening. The deal closing brings in the roughly $1 billion which was on the SPACs balance sheet.</p>\n<p>The stock symbol has changed from “PSAC” to “FFIE.” The stock price isn’t affected though. At Wednesday’s closing price of $13.78, Faraday has a market capitalization of roughly $4.7 billion based on 338 million fully diluted shares outstanding after the merger closed. The stock was up 9.1% at $15.02 at 9:57 a.m. Thursday.</p>\n<p>That gives the company a value similar to Fisker (FSR), but far short of Lucid Motors. Lucid is merging with Churchill Capital Corp IV (CCIV). Its market cap based on the share count after the merger closes is about $37 billion.</p>\n<p>Right now, Lucid is the king of publicly tradable EV startups. Investors like a few things about it. They like the car. The Lucid Air is a very nice automobile. They like the fact that Lucid has manufacturing capacity that can churn out production vehicles and not just prototypes. They like management. CEO Peter Rawlinson worked at Tesla. They also like the strategy. Lucid is making a high-end sedan first, then it will make a high-end SUV and lower-priced cars down the road. It is a Tesla-like strategy.</p>\n<p>Faraday has a few similarities, but a few key differences. Faraday is starting high end, like Lucid, but it’s aiming even higher than a Tesla (TSLA) Model S which can retail for around $100,000. Faraday’s FF 91 crossover is more comparable to a Mercedes S-class Maybach. Faraday is after the likes of Bentley and Maserati. And like Lucid, Faraday has production capacity—an old Pirelli tire factory in California—though it isn’t making cars yet.</p>\n<p>Faraday differs in its market approach. The company has a dual market strategy with a presence in both the U.S. and China. China is the largest EV market in the world. A strong presence in that country will be important for the future success of any EV start-up.</p>\n<p>Faraday looks like it has all the elements of a winning strategy with the car being the most important part. The FF 91 feels like a mobile office complete with space-age seats and a huge drop-down display, which passengers in the back can use to take a Zoom call or watch a movie. Doors, entertainment, screens, and just about everything else can be controlled with natural voice commands.</p>\n<p>And the vehicle performance is, frankly, better than the highest-end luxury cars. A Bentley or Mercedes S-class can come with roughly 500 horsepower—a lot for a gasoline-powered car. The FF 91 has more than 1,000 horsepower and can go zero to 60 miles an hour in about 2.6 seconds. It’s getting tough for gasoline engines to keep up.</p>\n<p>PSAC shares, coming into Thursday, are up about 38% year to date, far better than comparable gains of the S&amp;P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average. Shares, however, popped to $17.07 the day after the SPAC merger was announced on January 28. So the stock has given back some of its postmerger announcement gains.</p>\n<p>SPAC merger stocks tend to shoot up the day the stock symbol changes. There is no great fundamental reason they should. But finishing the merger removes one risk for investors—the risk the deal won’t happen. What’s more, index and mutual fund buyers typically wait until deals are done to start buying.</p>\n<p>Wall Street typically also waits for mergers to wrap up. For now, there are two ratings on PSAC stock, which is now FFIE stock: Mike Ward of Benchmark Capital, who rates shares Buy and has a $26 price target, and Fox Advisors analyst Steven Fox, who rates shares Buy with a $20 a share target. Fisker has 11 analysts covering its stock.</p>\n<p>Now that the merger is completed, investors can expect some additional ratings in the coming months. 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It just completed its merger with a SPAC and ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.barrons.com/articles/ev-faraday-future-stock-spac-tesla-51626960429\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"FFIE":"Faraday Future","TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://www.barrons.com/articles/ev-faraday-future-stock-spac-tesla-51626960429","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1158008489","content_text":"Stock in electric vehicle start-up Faraday Future is popping Thursday morning, and not for its compelling strategy. It isn’t going directly after Tesla. It just completed its merger with a SPAC and now has another $1 billion to use in the EV battle.\nFaraday Future closed its acquisition with SPAC Property Solutions Acquisition Corp Wednesday evening. The deal closing brings in the roughly $1 billion which was on the SPACs balance sheet.\nThe stock symbol has changed from “PSAC” to “FFIE.” The stock price isn’t affected though. At Wednesday’s closing price of $13.78, Faraday has a market capitalization of roughly $4.7 billion based on 338 million fully diluted shares outstanding after the merger closed. The stock was up 9.1% at $15.02 at 9:57 a.m. Thursday.\nThat gives the company a value similar to Fisker (FSR), but far short of Lucid Motors. Lucid is merging with Churchill Capital Corp IV (CCIV). Its market cap based on the share count after the merger closes is about $37 billion.\nRight now, Lucid is the king of publicly tradable EV startups. Investors like a few things about it. They like the car. The Lucid Air is a very nice automobile. They like the fact that Lucid has manufacturing capacity that can churn out production vehicles and not just prototypes. They like management. CEO Peter Rawlinson worked at Tesla. They also like the strategy. Lucid is making a high-end sedan first, then it will make a high-end SUV and lower-priced cars down the road. It is a Tesla-like strategy.\nFaraday has a few similarities, but a few key differences. Faraday is starting high end, like Lucid, but it’s aiming even higher than a Tesla (TSLA) Model S which can retail for around $100,000. Faraday’s FF 91 crossover is more comparable to a Mercedes S-class Maybach. Faraday is after the likes of Bentley and Maserati. And like Lucid, Faraday has production capacity—an old Pirelli tire factory in California—though it isn’t making cars yet.\nFaraday differs in its market approach. The company has a dual market strategy with a presence in both the U.S. and China. China is the largest EV market in the world. A strong presence in that country will be important for the future success of any EV start-up.\nFaraday looks like it has all the elements of a winning strategy with the car being the most important part. The FF 91 feels like a mobile office complete with space-age seats and a huge drop-down display, which passengers in the back can use to take a Zoom call or watch a movie. Doors, entertainment, screens, and just about everything else can be controlled with natural voice commands.\nAnd the vehicle performance is, frankly, better than the highest-end luxury cars. A Bentley or Mercedes S-class can come with roughly 500 horsepower—a lot for a gasoline-powered car. The FF 91 has more than 1,000 horsepower and can go zero to 60 miles an hour in about 2.6 seconds. It’s getting tough for gasoline engines to keep up.\nPSAC shares, coming into Thursday, are up about 38% year to date, far better than comparable gains of the S&P 500 and Dow Jones Industrial Average. Shares, however, popped to $17.07 the day after the SPAC merger was announced on January 28. So the stock has given back some of its postmerger announcement gains.\nSPAC merger stocks tend to shoot up the day the stock symbol changes. There is no great fundamental reason they should. But finishing the merger removes one risk for investors—the risk the deal won’t happen. What’s more, index and mutual fund buyers typically wait until deals are done to start buying.\nWall Street typically also waits for mergers to wrap up. For now, there are two ratings on PSAC stock, which is now FFIE stock: Mike Ward of Benchmark Capital, who rates shares Buy and has a $26 price target, and Fox Advisors analyst Steven Fox, who rates shares Buy with a $20 a share target. Fisker has 11 analysts covering its stock.\nNow that the merger is completed, investors can expect some additional ratings in the coming months. 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This, coupled with the hopeful possibility of building wealth directly from one’s phone and/or couch, brought a new generation of retail traders to the market. They began to push speculative equities and securities around in their search for quick value.\nThe trading platform Robinhood has been central to this stock market tale, allowing commission-free trading with a streamlined, easy-to-use mobile application to “democratize finance for all,” as is its motto. Its popularity culminated in a one-in-a-lifetime short squeeze in late January 2021, wherein highly motivated Reddit users attempted, and succeeded, to push up the price of GameStop Corp. (GME) stock in order to force hedge funds to cover their massively shorted shares.\nThis particular instance brought about massive negative sentiment for the growing financial application company, as Robinhood was forced to halt buy orders for several high volatility stocks in order to not go bankrupt themselves. The phenomenon brought Robinhood into global headlines and even had U.S. government officials using terms like “meme stocks.”\nCritics of Robinhood’s platform accuse it of gamifying the stock market with a sensationalizing user interface, and essentially creating an accessible and legal casino for anyone willing to play. The app allows users to quickly trade even the most leveraged and risky positions, including complex derivatives such as options and other financial tools. While other similar mobile platforms also allow this, Robinhood users go through much less data and cautionary information before having their trades executed.\nDespite the bad press, including congressional hearings with Robinhood’s CEO, the platform has since continued to grow its user base.\nKeeping an eye on retail traders’ interest in stocks has become a full-time job, and can mean the difference between massive gains or just another week of FOMO. Many websites provide trending stock tickers or even analytics on subreddit mentions of publicly traded companies. As Robinhood is mostly used by younger retail traders, looking at its top-traded stocks can provide insight into what direction certain stocks may be going.\nTwo stocks frequently found at the top of Robinhood traders' accounts are Tesla Inc. and Apple Inc. Both tech-savvy companies have seen their share prices rise dramatically over the course of 2020. Furthermore, both underwent stock splits, which made their stocks accessible to more people, resulting in a lot of online buzz.\nTesla Inc. (TSLA) \nFive-star analyst Jed Dorsheimer of Canaccord Genuity Capital Markets reiterated a Buy rating on Tesla, with an optimistic price target of $812. This suggests a possible upside of 30.27% from Friday’s closing price of $623.31. (See Tesla stock charts on TipRanks)\nDorsheimer wrote that Tesla is “innovating past the battery” while other manufacturers are playing catch up. He was bullish on a long term basis, arguing that the car company is “creating an energy brand and an Apple-esque ecosystem of products with customer focused connectivity, seamlessly marrying car, solar, and back-up power.”\nThe analyst did, however, call the new Model S Plaid an “ostensibly unnecessary $130k car,” but that does not mean consumers won’t like the finished product enough to not buy it.\nOn TipRanks, TSLA has an analyst rating consensus of Hold, based on 9 Buy, 7 Hold, and 7 Sell ratings. The average analyst Tesla price target is $620.70, reflecting a potential downside of 0.42% over the next twelve months.\n\nApple Inc. (AAPL)\nAnother consistently top stock pick from Robinhood traders, Apple Inc. has seen its share price climb more than five-fold over the last five years. The most valuable company in the world, with a market cap of over $2 trillion, the company has always had a loyal customer base, which seems to translate into loyal shareholders as well. (See Apple stock charts on TipRanks)\nDaniel Ives of Wedbush Securities was bullish following Apple’s new updates, which were announced during its WWDC conference. Ives maintained a Buy rating and a $185 price target, indicating a possible 41.81% upside from Apple’s Friday closing price of $130.46.\nThe five-star analyst wrote that Apple had placed a strong focus on user privacy concerns, which puts the company “on a collision course with Facebook around the ability for users to block data tracking.” However, Ives was encouraged by the improvements made by the new macOS Monterey desktop operating system, stating that it will support the “broadest lineup of Macs in history.”\nOn TipRanks, AAPL has an analyst rating consensus of Moderate Buy, based on 20 Buy, 5 Hold, and 2 Sell ratings. The average analyst Apple price target is $157.88, reflecting a potential 12-month upside of 21.02%.\n\nDisclaimer: The opinions expressed in this article are solely those of the featured analyst. The content is intended to be used for informational purposes only. 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It will also face new entrants such as Apple and Chinese smartphone makers Huawei and Xiaomi.More traditional automakers will also be producing electric vehicles. Even if the demand side is plausible, it would mean Tesla needs to build many more factories.However, if analysts are right that Tesla's true potential lies in a future rollout of an autonomous ride-hailing fleet, its share price has much room to head north based on the consensus ","content":"<p><b>Summary</b></p>\n<ul>\n <li>Tesla not only has to contend with pure-play EV-makers. It will also face new entrants such as Apple and Chinese smartphone makers Huawei and Xiaomi.</li>\n <li>More traditional automakers will also be producing electric vehicles. Even if the demand side is plausible, it would mean Tesla needs to build many more factories.</li>\n <li>It's a high chance that a great number of new plants would be in China which carries plenty of geopolitical risks. The headwinds from the uncertainties could suppress TSLA stock.</li>\n <li>However, if analysts are right that Tesla's true potential lies in a future rollout of an autonomous ride-hailing fleet, its share price has much room to head north based on the consensus projections.</li>\n <li>Tesla could consider another stock split to get&nbsp;\"more people in the stock.\" Past experiences suggest the EV titan could do one before the share price hit quadruple-digit again.</li>\n</ul>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/59edf6c2b70d6c984dc825b7567439bc\" tg-width=\"768\" tg-height=\"512\"><span>Photo by Spencer Platt/Getty Images News via Getty Images</span></p>\n<p><b>TSLA stock is poised to rise in line with its business growth</b></p>\n<p>In a recent article titled&nbsp;<i>Who Will Be The Biggest Competitors By 2025</i>, I questioned certain projections regarding Tesla's (TSLA) car sales. Some estimates implied that Tesla would take a lion's share of the EV market despite the rapid increase in the number of competitors.</p>\n<p>By 2025, Tesla not only has to contend with pure-play EV-makers. It will also face new entrants such as Apple Inc. (AAPL) as well as Chinese smartphone giants Huawei and Xiaomi Corporation (OTC:XIACF)(OTCPK:XIACY). More traditional automakers will also be producing electric vehicles, even as they continue to churn out internal combustion engine-based cars.</p>\n<p>Even if the demand side is plausible, it would mean Tesla, Inc. needs to build many more factories. Given the effusive praise we have heard from Elon Musk regarding the speed of factory construction and on China in general, we could expect additional new plants to be cited in the populous country. That could add more&nbsp;geopolitical risks&nbsp;to the stock, as SA author John Engle argued.</p>\n<p>Then again, as many readers on Seeking Alpha, analysts, and Cathie Wood have postulated, Tesla's true potential lies in a future rollout of an autonomous ride-hailing fleet. Consequently, Tesla's revenue is projected to rise from $31.54 billion in 2020 to a whopping $388.52 billion on a consensus basis in 2030. That would bring the price-to-sales ratio to a mere 1.84 times on a forward basis.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fac352f9c2ac9bac0412ed076c27c75a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"368\"><span>Source: Seeking Alpha Premium</span></p>\n<p>If Tesla did not disappoint the most bullish of the optimists forecasting its revenue to hit $600.7 billion in 2030, its P/S ratio would drop even lower to 1.19 times! You might say, all that sales are wonderful but what does their profitability look like? Well, the analysts believe TSLA would make boatloads of money. The consensus EPS estimate for 2030 is $33.48, a massive jump from the $0.64 it achieved in 2020. If the 2030 EPS estimate is realized, those earnings at today's price would reflect a ratio of 22.2 times, which could be seen as incredibly low.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7650450aa6230d6585a502b571ee3652\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"278\"><span>Source: Seeking Alpha Premium</span></p>\n<p>With EV sales projected by industry consultancy Canalys to remain below 50 percent of the total car sales by 2030, there remains significant growth potential for Tesla to increase its revenue. As such, assuming the analysts are correct, the share price of TSLA will not stay at the present level for the P/S ratio to be just 1.84 times and the P/E ratio at 22.2 times, the share price of TSLA would rise further than where it stands today.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0cd810d4171606b50d186b8d9bf10bf5\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"479\"></p>\n<p>Tesla stock split history: What was Tesla's stock price before the recent split?</p>\n<p>In other words, Tesla's share price would continue to rise over the next five to ten years. With that in mind, the question is, will TSLA split again? Before discussing that, let's review Tesla's previous split.</p>\n<p>On August 11, 2020, Tesla&nbsp;announced, after the market closed, that its board approved a five-for-one split of shares to \"make stock ownership more accessible to employees and investors.\" This marked Tesla's first-ever split announcement. The stock jumped from a pre-split price of $1374.4 to as high as $1585 the next day before closing at $1554.75. TSLA went on to clock further gains the rest of the month, appreciating over 80 percent by the end of August 2020.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c1b22a860341fe3bf36996d737680ddb\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"485\"></p>\n<p><b>How did Tesla's most recent stock split affect share prices?</b></p>\n<p>Interestingly, after the split was affected, Tesla stock lost much of the August gains in just a few trading sessions in early September. The share price decline was speculated by some to be due to shareholders paring their holdings since the split had resulted in them holding more TSLA shares. This seems logical as the purpose of the split was to accord shareholders with greater \"liquidity\" over their TSLA holding.</p>\n<p>However, the weakness in Tesla's share price was more likely attributable to a capital-raising exercise&nbsp;announced&nbsp;pre-market on September 1, 2020. Although only up to $5 billion worth of shares representing just over 1 percent of Tesla's market cap were to be sold, investors were probably looking for a trigger to take profit considering that TSLA was running in overbought territory for more than two weeks, according to the relative strength index [RSI] momentum indicator at that time.</p>\n<p>TSLA's strong run upwards had also led to the stock becoming \"overweight\" on many shareholders' portfolios. Ironically, that meant investors, whether individuals or fund managers had to reduce their Tesla holdings to avoid concentration risk. For funds with concentration guidelines or rules, it's not even a choice but a&nbsp;mandatory reduction&nbsp;exercise once the Tesla position became outsized.</p>\n<p>To make matters worse, Tesla stock was subsequently dragged down further into correction territory amid a sell-off by investors of tech favorites and \"all things frothy.\" The share price recovered some grounds quickly but the stock stagnated for a few months thereafter before a&nbsp;powerful wave of EV hypeswept TSLA up again to new heights.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/085a34d7256fb764f0652d6223057202\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"267\"><span>Source: Yahoo Finance</span></p>\n<p><b>When will Tesla stock split again?</b></p>\n<p>Although Tesla's share price has pulled back from the peak earlier in the year, it remains much higher than the post-split level last year. At $744.12 at the time of writing, TSLA is 49 percent higher than the $498.32 close on August 31, 2020, the day of the stock split.</p>\n<p>If the past is any reference, Tesla executives did the stock split when the share price was in quadruple-digit. TSLA will need to rise more than 34 percent for that to happen again. As I opined earlier, Tesla stock appears to be poised for further upside. I believe it's more of a question of when, not if, will TSLA hit above $1,000 per share.</p>\n<p>Nevertheless, even in the current investing environment where there are platforms allowing the trading of fractional shares, there are still benefits for stocks with smaller prices. One obvious advantage is the impact on psychology, as the mind interprets low prices as \"cheaply valued\" and having room to head north.</p>\n<p>The leadership at Apple must be thinking the same as the folks at Tesla when the company executed its stock split around the same time as the EV giant last August. The share price appreciation from pre-announcement to post-stock split date was less spectacular compared to Tesla but still a hefty 41 percent.</p>\n<p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/46bd0bed00b03ba1d738fd84c9dfb0dc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"483\"></p>\n<p>Considering that Apple&nbsp;announced&nbsp;a stock split when the share price was much lower at $384.76, it goes to show there's value in considering a split in the stock even without the share price hitting quadruple-digit. Furthermore, AAPL has done this four times before - in 1987, 2000, 2005, and 2014 - when the share prices were all below $1,000. In 1987 and 2005, the stock was even trading at the sub-$100 level when the company did the split.</p>\n<p>Jim Cramer was quoted as saying during an interview last year that Tim Cook explained the 2020 stock split to him, telling him that he wanted \"more people in the stock.\" I suppose that's what Bill Gates and his team thought when the software giant performed eight stock splits from the listing of Microsoft (MSFT) until 1999 as MSFT climbed exponentially during the period. Elon Musk and Tim Cook are the odd couple but I believe the former would agree on having \"more people\" in TSLA stock.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/44957db620e86907bb72e9691bc726e6\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"250\"><span>Source: Yahoo Finance</span></p>\n<p><b>Should you buy Tesla now or wait for a split?</b></p>\n<p>Video-streaming leader Netflix (NFLX) announced a seven-for-one stock split in 2015 when its share was around $700 pre-split. NFLX went on to do very well though it's very much due to its business success than a simple cosmetic stock split exercise. The point of bringing this up is that Tesla's share price is around where Netflix's share price was when the split was completed.</p>\n<p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f3cbb0c9bd178401bc6cc863a0934af2\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"271\"><span>Source: Yahoo Finance</span></p>\n<p>Although Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN) and Alphabet Inc. (GOOGL)(GOOG) are the odd tech companies trading at quadruple-digit levels, most others are trading in the triple-digit or smaller. With the favorable experience from the previous stock split, Tesla might not want to wait for the share price to hit quadruple-digit again before contemplating another split.</p>\n<p>Furthermore, there is&nbsp;existing literature&nbsp;that reveals a strong correlation between stock splits and \"outstanding stock price performance\", giving Tesla the impetus to do so. Another potential trigger point for Elon Musk to announce a stock split could be when TSLA hit $840 per share. He would be able to claim that the company would do a two-for-one split so that the share price becomes $420 post-split.</p>\n<p>Of course, the share price wouldn't stay flat from the announcement date until the effective date. Nonetheless, the media would have gone into overdrive covering the announcement and speculating about the number's link to weed as well as Elon's past brush with the securities law on his previous take-Tesla-private-at-$420 claim. This would generate plenty of free publicity for the company.</p>\n<p>However, investors should not hang around for a stock split if they are intending to own shares in Tesla. It may not happen and the share price could still zoom upwards on speculations, improving sentiment, or due to business fundamentals.</p>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock Split: Will It Happen Again?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock Split: Will It Happen Again?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-04-23 23:45 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4420899-tesla-stock-split-will-it-happen-again><strong>seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Summary\n\nTesla not only has to contend with pure-play EV-makers. It will also face new entrants such as Apple and Chinese smartphone makers Huawei and Xiaomi.\nMore traditional automakers will also be ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4420899-tesla-stock-split-will-it-happen-again\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4420899-tesla-stock-split-will-it-happen-again","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1166519043","content_text":"Summary\n\nTesla not only has to contend with pure-play EV-makers. It will also face new entrants such as Apple and Chinese smartphone makers Huawei and Xiaomi.\nMore traditional automakers will also be producing electric vehicles. Even if the demand side is plausible, it would mean Tesla needs to build many more factories.\nIt's a high chance that a great number of new plants would be in China which carries plenty of geopolitical risks. The headwinds from the uncertainties could suppress TSLA stock.\nHowever, if analysts are right that Tesla's true potential lies in a future rollout of an autonomous ride-hailing fleet, its share price has much room to head north based on the consensus projections.\nTesla could consider another stock split to get \"more people in the stock.\" Past experiences suggest the EV titan could do one before the share price hit quadruple-digit again.\n\nPhoto by Spencer Platt/Getty Images News via Getty Images\nTSLA stock is poised to rise in line with its business growth\nIn a recent article titled Who Will Be The Biggest Competitors By 2025, I questioned certain projections regarding Tesla's (TSLA) car sales. Some estimates implied that Tesla would take a lion's share of the EV market despite the rapid increase in the number of competitors.\nBy 2025, Tesla not only has to contend with pure-play EV-makers. It will also face new entrants such as Apple Inc. (AAPL) as well as Chinese smartphone giants Huawei and Xiaomi Corporation (OTC:XIACF)(OTCPK:XIACY). More traditional automakers will also be producing electric vehicles, even as they continue to churn out internal combustion engine-based cars.\nEven if the demand side is plausible, it would mean Tesla, Inc. needs to build many more factories. Given the effusive praise we have heard from Elon Musk regarding the speed of factory construction and on China in general, we could expect additional new plants to be cited in the populous country. That could add more geopolitical risks to the stock, as SA author John Engle argued.\nThen again, as many readers on Seeking Alpha, analysts, and Cathie Wood have postulated, Tesla's true potential lies in a future rollout of an autonomous ride-hailing fleet. Consequently, Tesla's revenue is projected to rise from $31.54 billion in 2020 to a whopping $388.52 billion on a consensus basis in 2030. That would bring the price-to-sales ratio to a mere 1.84 times on a forward basis.\nSource: Seeking Alpha Premium\nIf Tesla did not disappoint the most bullish of the optimists forecasting its revenue to hit $600.7 billion in 2030, its P/S ratio would drop even lower to 1.19 times! You might say, all that sales are wonderful but what does their profitability look like? Well, the analysts believe TSLA would make boatloads of money. The consensus EPS estimate for 2030 is $33.48, a massive jump from the $0.64 it achieved in 2020. If the 2030 EPS estimate is realized, those earnings at today's price would reflect a ratio of 22.2 times, which could be seen as incredibly low.\nSource: Seeking Alpha Premium\nWith EV sales projected by industry consultancy Canalys to remain below 50 percent of the total car sales by 2030, there remains significant growth potential for Tesla to increase its revenue. As such, assuming the analysts are correct, the share price of TSLA will not stay at the present level for the P/S ratio to be just 1.84 times and the P/E ratio at 22.2 times, the share price of TSLA would rise further than where it stands today.\n\nTesla stock split history: What was Tesla's stock price before the recent split?\nIn other words, Tesla's share price would continue to rise over the next five to ten years. With that in mind, the question is, will TSLA split again? Before discussing that, let's review Tesla's previous split.\nOn August 11, 2020, Tesla announced, after the market closed, that its board approved a five-for-one split of shares to \"make stock ownership more accessible to employees and investors.\" This marked Tesla's first-ever split announcement. The stock jumped from a pre-split price of $1374.4 to as high as $1585 the next day before closing at $1554.75. TSLA went on to clock further gains the rest of the month, appreciating over 80 percent by the end of August 2020.\n\nHow did Tesla's most recent stock split affect share prices?\nInterestingly, after the split was affected, Tesla stock lost much of the August gains in just a few trading sessions in early September. The share price decline was speculated by some to be due to shareholders paring their holdings since the split had resulted in them holding more TSLA shares. This seems logical as the purpose of the split was to accord shareholders with greater \"liquidity\" over their TSLA holding.\nHowever, the weakness in Tesla's share price was more likely attributable to a capital-raising exercise announced pre-market on September 1, 2020. Although only up to $5 billion worth of shares representing just over 1 percent of Tesla's market cap were to be sold, investors were probably looking for a trigger to take profit considering that TSLA was running in overbought territory for more than two weeks, according to the relative strength index [RSI] momentum indicator at that time.\nTSLA's strong run upwards had also led to the stock becoming \"overweight\" on many shareholders' portfolios. Ironically, that meant investors, whether individuals or fund managers had to reduce their Tesla holdings to avoid concentration risk. For funds with concentration guidelines or rules, it's not even a choice but a mandatory reduction exercise once the Tesla position became outsized.\nTo make matters worse, Tesla stock was subsequently dragged down further into correction territory amid a sell-off by investors of tech favorites and \"all things frothy.\" The share price recovered some grounds quickly but the stock stagnated for a few months thereafter before a powerful wave of EV hypeswept TSLA up again to new heights.\nSource: Yahoo Finance\nWhen will Tesla stock split again?\nAlthough Tesla's share price has pulled back from the peak earlier in the year, it remains much higher than the post-split level last year. At $744.12 at the time of writing, TSLA is 49 percent higher than the $498.32 close on August 31, 2020, the day of the stock split.\nIf the past is any reference, Tesla executives did the stock split when the share price was in quadruple-digit. TSLA will need to rise more than 34 percent for that to happen again. As I opined earlier, Tesla stock appears to be poised for further upside. I believe it's more of a question of when, not if, will TSLA hit above $1,000 per share.\nNevertheless, even in the current investing environment where there are platforms allowing the trading of fractional shares, there are still benefits for stocks with smaller prices. One obvious advantage is the impact on psychology, as the mind interprets low prices as \"cheaply valued\" and having room to head north.\nThe leadership at Apple must be thinking the same as the folks at Tesla when the company executed its stock split around the same time as the EV giant last August. The share price appreciation from pre-announcement to post-stock split date was less spectacular compared to Tesla but still a hefty 41 percent.\n\nConsidering that Apple announced a stock split when the share price was much lower at $384.76, it goes to show there's value in considering a split in the stock even without the share price hitting quadruple-digit. Furthermore, AAPL has done this four times before - in 1987, 2000, 2005, and 2014 - when the share prices were all below $1,000. In 1987 and 2005, the stock was even trading at the sub-$100 level when the company did the split.\nJim Cramer was quoted as saying during an interview last year that Tim Cook explained the 2020 stock split to him, telling him that he wanted \"more people in the stock.\" I suppose that's what Bill Gates and his team thought when the software giant performed eight stock splits from the listing of Microsoft (MSFT) until 1999 as MSFT climbed exponentially during the period. Elon Musk and Tim Cook are the odd couple but I believe the former would agree on having \"more people\" in TSLA stock.\nSource: Yahoo Finance\nShould you buy Tesla now or wait for a split?\nVideo-streaming leader Netflix (NFLX) announced a seven-for-one stock split in 2015 when its share was around $700 pre-split. NFLX went on to do very well though it's very much due to its business success than a simple cosmetic stock split exercise. The point of bringing this up is that Tesla's share price is around where Netflix's share price was when the split was completed.\nSource: Yahoo Finance\nAlthough Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN) and Alphabet Inc. (GOOGL)(GOOG) are the odd tech companies trading at quadruple-digit levels, most others are trading in the triple-digit or smaller. With the favorable experience from the previous stock split, Tesla might not want to wait for the share price to hit quadruple-digit again before contemplating another split.\nFurthermore, there is existing literature that reveals a strong correlation between stock splits and \"outstanding stock price performance\", giving Tesla the impetus to do so. Another potential trigger point for Elon Musk to announce a stock split could be when TSLA hit $840 per share. He would be able to claim that the company would do a two-for-one split so that the share price becomes $420 post-split.\nOf course, the share price wouldn't stay flat from the announcement date until the effective date. Nonetheless, the media would have gone into overdrive covering the announcement and speculating about the number's link to weed as well as Elon's past brush with the securities law on his previous take-Tesla-private-at-$420 claim. This would generate plenty of free publicity for the company.\nHowever, investors should not hang around for a stock split if they are intending to own shares in Tesla. It may not happen and the share price could still zoom upwards on speculations, improving sentiment, or due to business fundamentals.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":218,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":140936554,"gmtCreate":1625622735578,"gmtModify":1703745098919,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Very good","listText":"Very good","text":"Very good","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/140936554","repostId":"1189741956","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":20,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":372825109,"gmtCreate":1619192623401,"gmtModify":1704721131183,"author":{"id":"3581973645036019","authorId":"3581973645036019","name":"AkitaAngel","avatar":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b53a133095959862eb9ceee3e17e4122","crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"authorIdStr":"3581973645036019","idStr":"3581973645036019"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Nice","listText":"Nice","text":"Nice","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/372825109","repostId":"1128911279","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"1128911279","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1619161805,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1128911279?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2021-04-23 15:10","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Would Tax Hikes Spell Doom for the Stock Market?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1128911279","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"Investors got spooked by a potential boost to capital-gains rates for high-income taxpayers.The stoc","content":"<p>Investors got spooked by a potential boost to capital-gains rates for high-income taxpayers.</p><p>The stock market had a turbulent day on Thursday, with initial gains during the first half of the trading session giving way to sharper losses in the mid-afternoon. By the end of the day, the&nbsp;<b>Dow Jones Industrial Average</b>&nbsp;(DJINDICES:^DJI),<b>S&amp;P 500</b>&nbsp;(SNPINDEX:^GSPC), and&nbsp;<b>Nasdaq Composite</b>&nbsp;(NASDAQINDEX:^IXIC)were all down close to 1% on the day, reversing most of the positive momentum that Wall Street built up in the previous day's session on Wednesday.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bffd9c86b9306074ca1ff042f238caed\" tg-width=\"1152\" tg-height=\"333\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>DATA SOURCE: YAHOO! FINANCE.</span></p><p>The midday decline came amid reports that the Biden administration would propose tax increases on high-income taxpayers. The proposal targets a provision that long-term investors have taken advantage of for decades: the favorable&nbsp;tax rate on capital gains, the profits they realize when they sell stocks or other investments.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/eeff2a6b63b58cdea2311005593d3979\" tg-width=\"2000\" tg-height=\"1332\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"><span>IMAGE SOURCE: GETTY IMAGES.</span></p><p><b>What taxes could go up, and on whom?</b></p><p>The proposal, as reported, would affect the way long-term capital gains get taxed for those with incomes above $1 million. Currently, investors pay the same tax rates on short-term capital gains on investments held for a year or less as they do on most other forms of income, such as wages and salaries or interest. However, if an investor holds onto an investment for longer than a year and then sells it, long-term capital-gains tax treatment applies.</p><p>Although the brackets aren't exactly aligned, in general, those who pay 10% or 12% in tax on ordinary income pay 0% on their long-term capital gains. Those paying 22% to 35% typically pay a 15% long-term capital-gains tax, while top-bracket taxpayers whose ordinary income tax rate is 37% have a 20% maximum rate on their investment gains for assets held long term.</p><p>Under the proposed new rules, favorable tax treatment for long-term capital gains would remain completely in place for everyone in the first two groups and even for many in the third group. However, for taxpayers with incomes above $1 million, the lower long-term capital-gains tax rates would go away and they'd instead have to pay ordinary income tax rates on those gains, as well.</p><p><b>Why investors shouldn't be surprised</b></p><p>The reported proposal isn't a new one. Biden&nbsp;discussed it during the 2020 presidential campaign&nbsp;as one of the aspects of his broader tax plan. It's likely that the final version of any actual bill introduced in Congress would also include an increase in the top tax bracket to 39.6%, which was the level in effect immediately before tax-reform efforts made major changes to tax laws for the 2018 tax year.</p><p>Moreover, the legislation is far from a done deal. Even with Democrats having control of both houses of Congress and the White House, the margins are razor-thin. Already, some Democratic lawmakers have balked at tax-policy proposals, and in the Senate, the loss of even a single vote would be sufficient to prevent a tax bill from becoming law.</p><p><b>Is a stock market crash imminent?</b></p><p>It's understandable that investors would worry that a capital-gains tax hike might cause the stock market to drop. If investors sell their stocks now to lock in current lower rates, it could create short-term selling pressure. In the long run, though, the fundamentals of underlying businesses should still control share-price movements.</p><p>Moreover, this wouldn't be the first time capital-gains taxes have risen. In 2012, maximum capital-gains rates rose from 15% to 20%. Yet that didn't stop U.S. stocks from continuing what would eventually become a decade-long bull market.</p><p>Tax-law changes require some planning, but investors shouldn't change their entire investing strategy because of taxes. Letting them&nbsp;<i>define</i>&nbsp;how you invest can be a huge mistake and distract you from the task of finding the best companies and owning their shares for the long haul.</p><p>Read more:<a href=\"https://laohu8.com/NW/1180283228\" target=\"_blank\">Stocks Will Get Over Their Big Biden Tax Wobble</a></p>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Would Tax Hikes Spell Doom for the Stock Market?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWould Tax Hikes Spell Doom for the Stock Market?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2021-04-23 15:10 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/04/22/would-tax-hikes-spell-doom-for-the-stock-market/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Investors got spooked by a potential boost to capital-gains rates for high-income taxpayers.The stock market had a turbulent day on Thursday, with initial gains during the first half of the trading ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/04/22/would-tax-hikes-spell-doom-for-the-stock-market/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".SPX":"S&P 500 Index",".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite",".DJI":"道琼斯"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2021/04/22/would-tax-hikes-spell-doom-for-the-stock-market/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1128911279","content_text":"Investors got spooked by a potential boost to capital-gains rates for high-income taxpayers.The stock market had a turbulent day on Thursday, with initial gains during the first half of the trading session giving way to sharper losses in the mid-afternoon. By the end of the day, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJINDICES:^DJI),S&P 500 (SNPINDEX:^GSPC), and Nasdaq Composite (NASDAQINDEX:^IXIC)were all down close to 1% on the day, reversing most of the positive momentum that Wall Street built up in the previous day's session on Wednesday.DATA SOURCE: YAHOO! FINANCE.The midday decline came amid reports that the Biden administration would propose tax increases on high-income taxpayers. The proposal targets a provision that long-term investors have taken advantage of for decades: the favorable tax rate on capital gains, the profits they realize when they sell stocks or other investments.IMAGE SOURCE: GETTY IMAGES.What taxes could go up, and on whom?The proposal, as reported, would affect the way long-term capital gains get taxed for those with incomes above $1 million. Currently, investors pay the same tax rates on short-term capital gains on investments held for a year or less as they do on most other forms of income, such as wages and salaries or interest. However, if an investor holds onto an investment for longer than a year and then sells it, long-term capital-gains tax treatment applies.Although the brackets aren't exactly aligned, in general, those who pay 10% or 12% in tax on ordinary income pay 0% on their long-term capital gains. Those paying 22% to 35% typically pay a 15% long-term capital-gains tax, while top-bracket taxpayers whose ordinary income tax rate is 37% have a 20% maximum rate on their investment gains for assets held long term.Under the proposed new rules, favorable tax treatment for long-term capital gains would remain completely in place for everyone in the first two groups and even for many in the third group. However, for taxpayers with incomes above $1 million, the lower long-term capital-gains tax rates would go away and they'd instead have to pay ordinary income tax rates on those gains, as well.Why investors shouldn't be surprisedThe reported proposal isn't a new one. Biden discussed it during the 2020 presidential campaign as one of the aspects of his broader tax plan. It's likely that the final version of any actual bill introduced in Congress would also include an increase in the top tax bracket to 39.6%, which was the level in effect immediately before tax-reform efforts made major changes to tax laws for the 2018 tax year.Moreover, the legislation is far from a done deal. Even with Democrats having control of both houses of Congress and the White House, the margins are razor-thin. Already, some Democratic lawmakers have balked at tax-policy proposals, and in the Senate, the loss of even a single vote would be sufficient to prevent a tax bill from becoming law.Is a stock market crash imminent?It's understandable that investors would worry that a capital-gains tax hike might cause the stock market to drop. If investors sell their stocks now to lock in current lower rates, it could create short-term selling pressure. In the long run, though, the fundamentals of underlying businesses should still control share-price movements.Moreover, this wouldn't be the first time capital-gains taxes have risen. In 2012, maximum capital-gains rates rose from 15% to 20%. Yet that didn't stop U.S. stocks from continuing what would eventually become a decade-long bull market.Tax-law changes require some planning, but investors shouldn't change their entire investing strategy because of taxes. Letting them define how you invest can be a huge mistake and distract you from the task of finding the best companies and owning their shares for the long haul.Read more:Stocks Will Get Over Their Big Biden Tax Wobble","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":339,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}