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02-20

Palantir is definitely a good long term pick, currently averaging ard $13ish.

Palantir: A Solid Blend Of Growing Customer Base And Pricing Power

2023-11-23

Sounds good....👍

Alibaba Is Hugely Undervalued?

2023-11-22

Am in for a long term, my current pltr holding is almost 'free-of-cost'. (Bought at $9ish, sold half of my holdings at $17ish). Waiting for its inclusion into SnP500.

Palantir Is A Log Rolling Down A Hill

2023-11-20

Are you really serious?? Or telling us a joke [LOL]

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2023-09-02

How come Palantir is not on the list??[Victory]

7 Up-and-Coming AI Stocks to Put on Your Must-Buy List

2023-08-25

Great analysis/insights

It's Do Or Die For Apple Stock

2023-08-08

$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$ This is definitely along term 'keep'. My avg had been ard 9ish/share...I did sell off half of my holdings ard 18, the other half is now 'free of cost'....will keep it for long term. Shall continue to 'add on' during dips.

2023-08-01

$Alibaba(09988)$ 100 posing to be a tough resistance....

2023-07-25

$Alibaba(09988)$ Atleast now it's above my avg of hkd 89. Stop loss placed at 93 for half of the holdings....just to be on d safe side.🤞✌️ Other half is for long term...

2023-06-22

The new CEO is Jack Ma's close colleague, somehow it seems that Jack Ma, although retired...is getting involved in the restructuring planning. ✌️👍

Alibaba CEO Steps Down; Buy the Dip in the Stock?

2023-06-09

That's how the market works...[Happy]

Palantir: Perhaps An AI Stock That Isn't Overpriced

2023-06-09

One of my "bad investments"[Sweats]

NIO Stock Falls After Q1 Earnings - Here's Why

2023-06-07

Trio local banks are Good for dividend play....

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2023-06-07

Have been buying at dips, my avg is around HKD 83/share. Will keep it for long...

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2023-06-07

It definitely has potential, no harm keeping a small stake in this company. My entry was around $7+, share price has since doubled, sold half of the holdings, re-couped the initial investment. Thus the other half is now FOC, will keep monitoring and shall buy on dips.

Is Palantir Stock Too Hot To Handle? A Look At The Software Company's Stumbling Blocks

2023-03-31

Excited to hear that

Alibaba, JD.com Awaken China Tech’s Long-Dormant IPO Machine

2023-03-30

That was quite an insightful write-up...

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2023-02-28

$Alibaba(09988)$ Bullish Next week's National People's Congress meeting will set the tone for next leg of growth/bull-run. Keeping fingers crossed 🤞

2023-01-17

China/HK loosing steam🤔

Alibaba Gained 0.26%, JD.com Fell; Hang Seng Lost Over 200 Points

2023-01-14

2023 seems to have started on a good note, both US and CH/HK indexes are recovering furiously....especially CH/HK. ✌️🤞

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stage of development. 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Therefore, Palantir still has vast room to expand its commercial business in the U.S., not to mention international expansion opportunities.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c12e8dca2131bf7530e2943f05d1cd7c\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"298\"/></p><p>Palantir</p><p>In my opinion, the consistent growth in customer count underscores the high appeal of the company&#39;s offerings. The expanding customer base allowed Palantir to improve its revenue side of the P&amp;L substantially, which looks like a straight line, quite an impressive dynamic. Wall Street analysts are quite optimistic about the company&#39;s revenue growth prospects for the next decade, expecting it to compound at double digits consistently.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d9881b9fd4ce031c4e3fb5f7b97a5985\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"424\"/></p><p>Data by YCharts</p><p>The multiplicative effect for revenue growth is achieved not only with the help of the number of contracts with customers but also with improving the quality of these contracts, i.e., the improved revenue per customer in strong dynamics in billings. The ability to expand average revenue per customer is a solid strength of the business model, meaning it provides Palantir with opportunities to cross-sell its services. The ability to involve more offerings sold to a single customer means increased switching costs for them, which will likely help Palantir to sustain its stellar 108% net dollar retention rate demonstrated in Q4 2023, according to the latest earnings presentation.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/70aed4926ce46bd3bbc3cfd35b9a9c1a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"295\"/></p><p>Palantir</p><p>It is obvious that there are two primary variables that drive revenue: volume/contract count and price/revenue per contract. Since Palantir demonstrates strength from both sides of the revenue equation, I think this is solid evidence that the company is able to sustain its revenue growth pace for longer.</p><p>Delivering impressive revenue growth is crucial for young technological companies like Palantir, but the ability to rapidly improve profitability metrics is something that separates genuinely great companies from just good companies. From the perspective of the profitability metrics dynamics, Palantir looks like it has the potential to become a great company. The EBITDA and operating margin are demonstrating very promising dynamics and give high conviction that as the revenue expands, profitability metrics are highly likely to follow further. That is another big positive sign for PLTR potential investors.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1583194c64c28cc7418e54a390873003\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"439\"/></p><p>Data by YCharts</p><p>Last but not least, Palantir is in a strong financial position, with an above $3 billion cash position and only $236 million in total debt. Being in this position means that Palantir&#39;s management is able to exercise very solid financial flexibility in case attractive investment opportunities emerge. Having a clean balance sheet like Palantir&#39;s does not only mean that the company can utilize its cash position to invest in new ventures, but is also likely to attract debt finance on favorable terms. While the strong balance sheet is not a positive catalyst itself, it opens a wide window for potential new growth opportunities.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4478f183598e90ba144aff3971759fed\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"606\"/></p><p>In conclusion, I am confident that Palantir possesses a comprehensive array of strengths poised to generate value for shareholders over the long term. The company&#39;s rapid customer base expansion, coupled with its ability to boost revenue per customer, presents robust revenue growth prospects. Moreover, its high net dollar retention rates and cross-selling opportunities are expected to contribute to further improvement in the cost of revenue.</p><h2 id=\"id_822613994\">Valuation analysis</h2><p>Despite the stock price having more than tripled from May 2023 lows, PLTR still trades substantially below its early 2021 all-time high. The momentum is strong, with the stock rallying by more than 50% over the last six months. The recent rally has led valuation ratios to spike, with the forward P/E ratio at around 169. However, ratios are rarely a good metric to use to assess the valuation of growth companies.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0cf388eb7190b505b25bf74bcec5aecc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"274\"/></p><p>SA</p><p>To check whether a staggering 169 P/E ratio is reasonable, I need to run the discounted cash flow (&#34;DCF&#34;) model. Future cash flows will be discounted at an 11% WACC. Given the many Wall Street analysts covering PLTR for the upcoming two years, I take revenue consensus estimates for FY 2024-2025. For years after 2025, I expect a natural 50 basis points revenue growth deceleration. To derive the free cash flow (&#34;FCF&#34;) for the base year, I multiply revenue by the TTM 29.64% levered FCF margin. For subsequent years, I projected a levered FCF margin expansion by one percentage point yearly. Considering all the company&#39;s strengths and secular tailwinds in place, I project a very ambitious 9% constant growth rate for the terminal value (&#34;TV&#34;) calculation. There are 2.16 billion PLTR shares outstanding at the moment.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cc501503562a68f66a1e7fc6818f167b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"306\"/></p><p>Calculated by the author</p><p>As my DCF model suggests, PLTR stock&#39;s fair price is $29.74, and I would prefer to round it up to $30. Therefore, there is around 22% upside potential for PLTR, and I consider this attractive.</p><h2 id=\"id_1847820832\">Mitigating factors</h2><p>As we have seen in the previous section, there are numerous assumptions that form the fair value of a growth stock. Out of the PLTR&#39;s total cumulative $64 billion DCF, almost $60 billion is represented by the terminal value. That said, if the company demonstrates a notable deceleration of revenue growth compared to consensus estimates, this might lead to a compression of valuation. For instance, dropping the constant growth rate by just 100 basis points decreases the estimated fair share price from $30 to $20.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/258c13f802068725a3a8add10359f598\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"308\"/></p><p>Calculated by the author</p><p>There are several factors that could potentially hinder PLTR&#39;s revenue growth trajectory. Chief among these is the rapidly evolving technological landscape, which presents a significant risk to Palantir&#39;s future revenue growth. The emergence of new disruptive technologies capable of addressing the same problems as Palantir&#39;s offerings, but in a more efficient manner, could result in a loss of market share for the company, thereby constraining its growth prospects.</p><p>Moreover, as a software company, Palantir stores a substantial amount of sensitive information belonging to both itself and its clients. Any breach or leakage of cybersecurity could severely damage Palantir&#39;s reputation and erode customer trust. This could prompt clients to seek alternative solutions that offer greater security, even if they provide less sophisticated analytical capabilities. Protecting sensitive information is paramount for clients, as any compromise could lead to reputational damage and loss of trust among their own customers. Therefore, maintaining robust cybersecurity measures is crucial for Palantir to safeguard its revenue streams and sustain its growth trajectory.</p><p>Another potential risk to Palantir&#39;s future financial performance is the uncertainty regarding regulations for the AI-powered tools. There is a significant public discussion at the moment regarding the regulation of advanced tools powered by AI. While AI presents promising opportunities to enhance efficiency across various domains, it also brings significant risks, such as job displacement, concerns regarding the reliability of AI-generated content, and legal implications. If stringent regulations are imposed on AI-powered tools, Palantir could face adverse outcomes. New potential rules may not only disrupt revenue growth potential but also boost compliance costs due to heightened regulatory scrutiny.</p><h2 id=\"id_308351130\">Conclusion</h2><p>I think that the company&#39;s superior performance makes it a good option for investors seeking a growth superstar. 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Palantir has revolutionized the field of deep analytical tools for governmental organizations and is now swiftly expanding into the commercial market. This allows PLTR to demonstrate impressive revenue growth by increasing its customer base and exercising pricing power via cross-selling. The exceptional profitability is reinvested into enhancing the company's offerings, fostering a continuous cycle of improvement that distinguishes Palantir and attracts new customers. This creates a snowball effect, wherein the company's enhanced capabilities and reputation further fuel its growth and market dominance. Additionally, my valuation analysis suggests there is a 22% upside potential for PLTR, reinforcing my belief that it merits a \"Strong Buy\" rating.Fundamental analysisPalantir is a software company that aims to empower organizations to integrate their data, decisions, and operations at scale effectively. According to PLTR's 10-Q form, there are three principal software platforms: Gotham, Foundry, and Apollo. Palantir serves a diverse range of clients, encompassing both governmental bodies and commercial enterprises. Its first large contracts were with the Pentagon.According to the latest earnings presentation, the company had 497 customers, out of which 375 were commercial customers. In the screenshot below, we can see that the growth of commercial customers has been the major growth driver in recent quarters. It is also quite important to underline that Palantir's commercial business is in the very early stages of development because a total of 375 customers since there are more than 1,500 public companies only in the U.S. with annual revenue exceeding $1 billion, which are large enterprises and highly likely can afford advanced tools from Palantir. Therefore, Palantir still has vast room to expand its commercial business in the U.S., not to mention international expansion opportunities.PalantirIn my opinion, the consistent growth in customer count underscores the high appeal of the company's offerings. The expanding customer base allowed Palantir to improve its revenue side of the P&L substantially, which looks like a straight line, quite an impressive dynamic. Wall Street analysts are quite optimistic about the company's revenue growth prospects for the next decade, expecting it to compound at double digits consistently.Data by YChartsThe multiplicative effect for revenue growth is achieved not only with the help of the number of contracts with customers but also with improving the quality of these contracts, i.e., the improved revenue per customer in strong dynamics in billings. The ability to expand average revenue per customer is a solid strength of the business model, meaning it provides Palantir with opportunities to cross-sell its services. The ability to involve more offerings sold to a single customer means increased switching costs for them, which will likely help Palantir to sustain its stellar 108% net dollar retention rate demonstrated in Q4 2023, according to the latest earnings presentation.PalantirIt is obvious that there are two primary variables that drive revenue: volume/contract count and price/revenue per contract. Since Palantir demonstrates strength from both sides of the revenue equation, I think this is solid evidence that the company is able to sustain its revenue growth pace for longer.Delivering impressive revenue growth is crucial for young technological companies like Palantir, but the ability to rapidly improve profitability metrics is something that separates genuinely great companies from just good companies. From the perspective of the profitability metrics dynamics, Palantir looks like it has the potential to become a great company. The EBITDA and operating margin are demonstrating very promising dynamics and give high conviction that as the revenue expands, profitability metrics are highly likely to follow further. That is another big positive sign for PLTR potential investors.Data by YChartsLast but not least, Palantir is in a strong financial position, with an above $3 billion cash position and only $236 million in total debt. Being in this position means that Palantir's management is able to exercise very solid financial flexibility in case attractive investment opportunities emerge. Having a clean balance sheet like Palantir's does not only mean that the company can utilize its cash position to invest in new ventures, but is also likely to attract debt finance on favorable terms. While the strong balance sheet is not a positive catalyst itself, it opens a wide window for potential new growth opportunities.In conclusion, I am confident that Palantir possesses a comprehensive array of strengths poised to generate value for shareholders over the long term. The company's rapid customer base expansion, coupled with its ability to boost revenue per customer, presents robust revenue growth prospects. Moreover, its high net dollar retention rates and cross-selling opportunities are expected to contribute to further improvement in the cost of revenue.Valuation analysisDespite the stock price having more than tripled from May 2023 lows, PLTR still trades substantially below its early 2021 all-time high. The momentum is strong, with the stock rallying by more than 50% over the last six months. The recent rally has led valuation ratios to spike, with the forward P/E ratio at around 169. However, ratios are rarely a good metric to use to assess the valuation of growth companies.SATo check whether a staggering 169 P/E ratio is reasonable, I need to run the discounted cash flow (\"DCF\") model. Future cash flows will be discounted at an 11% WACC. Given the many Wall Street analysts covering PLTR for the upcoming two years, I take revenue consensus estimates for FY 2024-2025. For years after 2025, I expect a natural 50 basis points revenue growth deceleration. To derive the free cash flow (\"FCF\") for the base year, I multiply revenue by the TTM 29.64% levered FCF margin. For subsequent years, I projected a levered FCF margin expansion by one percentage point yearly. Considering all the company's strengths and secular tailwinds in place, I project a very ambitious 9% constant growth rate for the terminal value (\"TV\") calculation. There are 2.16 billion PLTR shares outstanding at the moment.Calculated by the authorAs my DCF model suggests, PLTR stock's fair price is $29.74, and I would prefer to round it up to $30. Therefore, there is around 22% upside potential for PLTR, and I consider this attractive.Mitigating factorsAs we have seen in the previous section, there are numerous assumptions that form the fair value of a growth stock. Out of the PLTR's total cumulative $64 billion DCF, almost $60 billion is represented by the terminal value. That said, if the company demonstrates a notable deceleration of revenue growth compared to consensus estimates, this might lead to a compression of valuation. For instance, dropping the constant growth rate by just 100 basis points decreases the estimated fair share price from $30 to $20.Calculated by the authorThere are several factors that could potentially hinder PLTR's revenue growth trajectory. Chief among these is the rapidly evolving technological landscape, which presents a significant risk to Palantir's future revenue growth. The emergence of new disruptive technologies capable of addressing the same problems as Palantir's offerings, but in a more efficient manner, could result in a loss of market share for the company, thereby constraining its growth prospects.Moreover, as a software company, Palantir stores a substantial amount of sensitive information belonging to both itself and its clients. Any breach or leakage of cybersecurity could severely damage Palantir's reputation and erode customer trust. This could prompt clients to seek alternative solutions that offer greater security, even if they provide less sophisticated analytical capabilities. Protecting sensitive information is paramount for clients, as any compromise could lead to reputational damage and loss of trust among their own customers. Therefore, maintaining robust cybersecurity measures is crucial for Palantir to safeguard its revenue streams and sustain its growth trajectory.Another potential risk to Palantir's future financial performance is the uncertainty regarding regulations for the AI-powered tools. There is a significant public discussion at the moment regarding the regulation of advanced tools powered by AI. While AI presents promising opportunities to enhance efficiency across various domains, it also brings significant risks, such as job displacement, concerns regarding the reliability of AI-generated content, and legal implications. If stringent regulations are imposed on AI-powered tools, Palantir could face adverse outcomes. New potential rules may not only disrupt revenue growth potential but also boost compliance costs due to heightened regulatory scrutiny.ConclusionI think that the company's superior performance makes it a good option for investors seeking a growth superstar. The 22% undervaluation looks like a \"Strong Buy\" signal in my opinion, especially given the strong momentum of the improvement of the company's financial performance in recent quarters.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":234,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":244532142936256,"gmtCreate":1700724141508,"gmtModify":1700724146102,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Sounds good....👍","listText":"Sounds good....👍","text":"Sounds good....👍","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/244532142936256","repostId":"2385466779","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2385466779","pubTimestamp":1700722800,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2385466779?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-11-23 15:00","market":"hk","language":"en","title":"Alibaba Is Hugely Undervalued?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2385466779","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"Alibaba Group Holding Limited offers a compelling investment opportunity with a diversified portfolio spanning e-commerce, cloud services, logistics, and digital media, providing resilience in a dynam","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Alibaba Group Holding Limited offers a compelling investment opportunity with a diversified portfolio spanning e-commerce, cloud services, logistics, and digital media, providing resilience in a dynamic market.</p></li><li><p>Despite recent challenges and regulatory uncertainties, Alibaba&#39;s strategic segments, both domestically and internationally, showcase robust growth potential, emphasizing the company&#39;s adaptability and innovation.</p></li><li><p>The recent stock pullback, coupled with an undervaluation that could be as high as 161.9%, presents an attractive entry point for investors looking to capitalize on Alibaba&#39;s long-term growth prospects.</p></li><li><p>Investors must remain vigilant to potential risks, including governmental influence, economic downturns, and competition from foreign players, acknowledging the nuanced balance between Alibaba&#39;s strengths and external factors.</p></li><li><p>Alibaba&#39;s solid financial foundation, diversified revenue streams, and strategic positioning position it favorably for long-term growth, making it a promising investment choice.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/84b6aeab08dc480ef3a214462aadfcfd\" title=\"Robert Way\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/><span>Robert Way</span></p><h2 id=\"id_522885472\">Thesis</h2><p>After the release of FQ2 2024, <strong>Alibaba Group Holding Limited</strong> (NYSE:BABA) experienced a 10% decline as the company fell short of revenue expectations by $250 million, despite EPS estimates. Additionally, the company abandoned its plans to spin off its cloud business, citing uncertainties in the growth trajectory caused by the U.S.-imposed restrictions on AI chip imports.</p><p>Nevertheless, in this article, I will elucidate using two valuation models why Alibaba is significantly undervalued, marking an undervaluation of up to 80%. This substantial undervaluation provides a considerable margin of security for investors, warranting a &#34;strong buy&#34; recommendation. I propose a fair price of $148.1 for the stock.</p><h2 id=\"id_1987249582\">Overview</h2><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/081c2dd239fb542c7136a40c1b6c2ad1\" alt=\"FQ2 2024 Alibaba\" title=\"FQ2 2024 Alibaba\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"133\"/><span>FQ2 2024 Alibaba</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e6bb4b66323db07420db79ea50a4c420\" alt=\"FY 2023\" title=\"FY 2023\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"417\"/><span>FY 2023</span></p><h3 id=\"id_3914187007\">Q2 2024 Earnings</h3><p>In FQ2 2024, Alibaba outperformed expectations in earnings but fell short on revenue, with a notable miss of $230 million. Despite this, the company reported an impressive EPS of $2.14, surpassing the consensus by $0.05.</p><p>The most significant blow to these earnings results came as Alibaba opted to abandon its plan to spin off its cloud business. The rationale behind this decision was a belief that the spin-off would not deliver the anticipated shareholder value. Furthermore, the company pointed to the current export restrictions on AI chips imposed by the U.S., which has cast uncertainty over the prospects of its cloud segment.</p><p>Adding to the challenges, Alibaba disclosed that Jack Ma&#39;s family trust intends to sell 10 million shares valued at $870.71 million on November 21.</p><h3 id=\"id_2851468396\">Market</h3><h4 id=\"id_4264278908\">E-Commerce China</h4><p>Alibaba&#39;s primary focus lies in e-commerce, as illustrated in the table below, with a significant dependency on China, representing 67% of this segment. However, since 2021, Alibaba has successfully reduced its reliance on the Chinese market by 3%.</p><p>In addition to its Chinese and international e-commerce segments, Alibaba operates in the &#34;wholesale&#34; segment. This facet involves collaboration with Chinese factories, functioning in a producer-to-consumer model. Notably, the cost per unit decreases with higher purchase quantities.</p><p>Projections indicate an anticipated growth rate of 8.21% for the Chinese e-commerce market throughout 2027. In contrast, the global e-commerce market is expected to experience a more robust growth rate of approximately 15% by 2032.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cb5ffc078e262abf6dae01b3008e5789\" alt=\"Statista\" title=\"Statista\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"340\"/><span>Statista</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fa869592dad3d103e32094e603a07313\" alt=\"Precedence Research\" title=\"Precedence Research\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"592\"/><span>Precedence Research</span></p><h4 id=\"id_21983917\">Local Consumer Services</h4><p>The Local Consumer Services segment of Alibaba encompasses a range of diverse services designed to cater to various consumer needs. Among these services are Ele.me, a prominent on-demand delivery platform, Amap, providing digital mapping services along with real-time traffic information, Fliggy, an online travel platform, and Taoxianda, a platform aiding retailers in establishing and managing online stores.</p><h4 id=\"id_2699114686\">Cainiao - Platform Delivery China</h4><p>Cainiao, a company 70% owned by Alibaba following its acquisition of the majority stake in 2017, specializes in logistics. Serving as a crucial complement to Alibaba&#39;s e-commerce operations in China, Cainiao plays a pivotal role in ensuring timely deliveries within China, often achieving the impressive feat of completing deliveries in less than 24 hours.</p><p>Notably, the platform delivery segment has experienced recent growth, propelled by the surge in e-commerce sales. Projections indicate a continued growth rate of 5.15% for this market throughout 2027.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bd03ba9b4a58c40599efe510d0bd95e0\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations with base on Statista\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations with base on Statista\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"385\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations with base on Statista</span></p><h4 id=\"id_2806472205\">Cloud - China</h4><p>Alibaba also boasts a formidable presence in the cloud segment, initially slated for a significant spinoff as part of a major strategic plan. This move garnered widespread acclaim from investors, given the robust prospects of the cloud market in China. Projections estimate a noteworthy growth rate of 20.44%, and the autonomy of an independent Alibaba Cloud company is anticipated to drive rapid revenue expansion and robust cash-flow growth, particularly considering the high profitability associated with cloud services.</p><p>Notably, the projected growth rate of 20.44% for the Chinese cloud market closely aligns with the impressive revenue growth that Alibaba has consistently demonstrated within its cloud segment.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2c83a9ff7534361801c44c57f6842844\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations with base on Statista\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations with base on Statista\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"385\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations with base on Statista</span></p><h4 id=\"id_1524553402\">Digital Media &amp; Entertainment - China</h4><p>The final segment in Alibaba&#39;s diverse portfolio is Digital Media and Entertainment, featuring key components such as Youku, a prominent video platform, and Alibaba Pictures, which encompasses intellectual property, licensing, and cinema ticketing management for the movie industry. Additionally, the company provides other content platforms and engages in the online gaming sector.</p><p>Projections for the digital media market in China are optimistic, with an expected growth rate of 10.88%. This growth is anticipated to be fueled by the increasing revenue per user, projected to experience a substantial uptick of 7.6% from 2023 to 2027.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/68b6148617c06e49a88276236a24288e\" alt=\"Statista\" title=\"Statista\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"402\"/><span>Statista</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d15ed857ad6619ed880668554372e704\" alt=\"Statista\" title=\"Statista\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"378\"/><span>Statista</span></p><h2 id=\"id_3984174781\">Financial</h2><p>Alibaba has demonstrated remarkable revenue growth over the past six years. Since FY2018, the company has achieved an annual revenue growth rate of 35.68%. However, in a recent development, Alibaba experienced its first decline in revenue, with a year-over-year reduction of 5.97%.</p><p>What stands out is the company&#39;s ability to consistently grow its net income, a crucial factor influencing a discounted cash flow (&#34;DCF&#34;) model. The net income has grown at a commendable annual rate of 15.57%, currently standing at $18.16 billion, though below the 2021 all-time high of $22.98 billion.</p><p>In terms of margins, a noticeable downward trend is observed in both operating margin and net income margin. In FY2018, these metrics were above 25%, with the operating margin at 28.21% and the net income margin at 25.61%. As of the latest earnings release, both metrics have decreased to 14.66% and 14.50%, respectively.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/960c6966b32c3d6338927f89928133eb\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"384\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c879d4d20ebba8a4b090bf207e7fdaa6\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"389\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations</span></p><p>Alibaba&#39;s financial foundation appears robust, with a substantial cash reserve of $78.66 billion and a comparatively low debt burden. Long-term debt stands at $21.71 billion, while short-term debt is at $5.4 billion.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/29d34db56f2ac763355ca3f8ce4693ef\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"391\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations</span></p><p>Despite the overall positive financial outlook, Alibaba&#39;s free cash flow has experienced annual growth of 9.38%. The free cash flow margin, however, has seen a significant decrease from FY2018&#39;s 36.6% to the current level of 18.2%. This indicates a potential decrease in efficiency, and Alibaba attributes this shift to the presence of project-based contracts, which inherently have lower margins. The company is actively working to reduce the impact of these contracts to enhance overall margins.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bd64025d13a547be8d4e59fe5383e405\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"461\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b5ab121ecbf172e600e9baf213607a57\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"476\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1e791c46f8ca163f7aa30e11f9d6c939\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"358\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations</span></p><h2 id=\"id_3734509088\">Valuation</h2><p>In this valuation of Alibaba, I will employ two distinct models: the first relies on analysts&#39; estimates for revenue and net income, while the second model involves my own estimates formulated from scratch. These estimates are based on the anticipated growth rates within the markets of each of Alibaba&#39;s operating segments.</p><p>The table below outlines the assumptions integral to calculating Alibaba&#39;s fair stock price. Notably, D&amp;A, interest expenses, and CapEx will be computed using margins tied to revenue.</p><p>Ultimately, the WACC will be derived from variables such as equity value, debt value, and the cost of debt, utilizing the widely recognized formula.</p><p>For FY2023 and FY2024, analysts anticipate revenues of $133.3 billion and $145.93 billion, respectively. Subsequently, for FY2026-2029, I will apply an expected forward revenue growth rate of 4.87%.</p><table style=\"border-collapse:collapse;\"><colgroup><col/><col/></colgroup><tbody><tr><td colspan=\"2\" style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>TABLE OF ASSUMPTIONS</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>(Current data)</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Assumptions Part 1</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Equity Value</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>141,772.60</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Debt Value</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>27,182.30</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Cost of Debt</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>3.49%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Tax Rate</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>12.76%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>10y Treasury</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>4.80%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Beta</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>0.89</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Market Return</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>10.50%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Cost of Equity</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>9.87%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Assumptions Part 2</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>CapEx</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>4,702.10</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Capex Margin</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>3.75%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Net Income</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>18,168.20</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Interest</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>948.40</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Tax</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>2,656.80</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>D&amp;A</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>6,245.60</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Ebitda</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>28,019.00</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>D&amp;A Margin</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>4.98%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Interest Expense Margin</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>0.76%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Revenue</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>125,311.9</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p></p><h3 id=\"id_56021089\">Analysts&#39; Estimates</h3><p>For FY2023 and FY2024, analysts are anticipating revenues of $133.3 billion and $145.93 billion, respectively. Looking ahead to FY2026-2029, a forward revenue growth rate of 4.87% will be applied.</p><p>In terms of net income, analysts project an EPS of $8.92, translating to a net income of $22.63 billion for FY2024. For FY2025, the estimate increases to an EPS of $9.75, corresponding to a net income of $24.74 billion. Subsequently, for FY2026-2029, the anticipated 3-5 year long-term expected EPS growth rate of 17.45% will be applied.</p><table style=\"border-collapse:collapse;\"><colgroup><col/><col/><col/><col/><col/><col/></colgroup><tbody><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Revenue</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Net Income</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Plus Taxes</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Plus D&amp;A</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Plus Interest</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>2023</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$133,310.0</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$22,634.50</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$25,522.15</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$32,104.47</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$33,104.00</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>2024</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$145,930.0</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$24,740.63</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$27,896.97</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$34,479.29</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$35,478.82</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>2025</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$152,715.7</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$29,057.86</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$32,764.99</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$40,305.48</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$41,450.52</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>2026</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$159,817.0</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$34,128.46</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$38,482.48</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$46,373.61</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$47,571.88</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>2027</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$167,248.5</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$40,083.88</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$45,197.68</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$53,455.74</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$54,709.73</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>2028</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$175,025.6</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$47,078.51</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$53,084.67</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$61,726.73</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$63,039.04</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>^Final EBITA^</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/90a2b3d81905562e6d4cd4d6443240d7\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"679\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations</span></p><p>The initial model suggests that Alibaba is undervalued by a significant margin, approximately 161.9%. According to this model, the fair stock price is estimated to be $204.9, closely aligning with the stock price on July 9, 2021, when the stock traded at $205.94, a period within the onset of the bear market.</p><p>Additionally, the model indicates a projected future stock price of $274.7. This implies a potential gain of 41.9% until 2028, aligning with Alibaba&#39;s FY2029.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0901371041fe275255a832be806605b0\" alt=\"Seeking Alpha\" title=\"Seeking Alpha\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"344\"/><span>Seeking Alpha</span></p><h3 id=\"id_3561401362\">My Estimates</h3><p>In this alternative model, I have projected the growth of each of Alibaba&#39;s segments based on the expected CAGR in their respective markets. The Chinese Retail &amp; Wholesale segments are forecasted to grow at a CAGR of 8.21%, International Retail &amp; Wholesale at 15%, Cainiao in the Platform Delivery market at 5.15%, Chinese cloud at 20.44%, and Chinese Digital Media &amp; Entertainment at a rate of 10.88%. For Local Consumer Services, where estimating revenues is challenging, a conservative growth rate of 5% has been applied, which is notably below the current YoY growth of 16% for this segment.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a0aba12ef54f1700a42b67ae82e18682\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"98\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations</span></p><table style=\"border-collapse:collapse;\"><colgroup><col/><col/><col/><col/><col/><col/></colgroup><tbody><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Revenue</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Net Income</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Plus Taxes</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Plus D&amp;A</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Plus Interest</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>FY 2024</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$125,311.9</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$18,170.23</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$20,488.34</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$26,733.94</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$27,682.34</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>FY 2025</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$137,322.4</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$19,911.75</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$22,452.04</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$28,697.64</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$29,646.04</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>FY 2026</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$150,693.7</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$21,850.58</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$24,638.23</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$32,148.86</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$33,289.36</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>FY 2027</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$165,610.7</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$24,013.55</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$27,077.14</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$35,331.25</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$36,584.65</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>FY 2028</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$182,287.9</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$26,431.75</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$29,803.84</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$38,889.16</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$40,268.77</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>FY 2029</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$200,974.3</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$29,141.27</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$32,859.04</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$42,875.69</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$44,396.73</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>^Final EBITA^</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p>Author&#39;s Calculations</p><p>This more conservative model suggests a fair price of $148.1, indicating an upside of 89.3% from the current stock price of $78.2. Looking ahead to FY2029, the projected stock price is $184.2, translating into annual returns of 22.6%. While not as high as the previous model, these returns are still substantial and attractive.</p><h2 id=\"id_3686040600\">Risks to Thesis</h2><p>The primary risk factor in this bullish thesis revolves around the influence exerted by the Chinese Government. The government&#39;s control over corporations, as evidenced by the halt in the Ant Group&#39;s IPO in Hong Kong, poses a considerable risk. If there were a concerted effort to sideline Jack Ma, a key figure in the company&#39;s direction, it could deliver a significant intellectual blow to Alibaba. In such a scenario, the company would need to secure an equally capable protector, given Ma&#39;s influential role despite not holding the CEO position.</p><p>Secondly, there exists the risk of a severe Chinese recession impacting Alibaba&#39;s sales volume. With over 65% of e-commerce revenues hinging on the Chinese market, the company is vulnerable to economic downturns. This vulnerability extends beyond e-commerce to include entertainment platforms and Cainiao, which is intricately tied to e-commerce operations.</p><p>Lastly, there is the risk of a foreign competitor, such as Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN), succeeding in growing aggressively within the Chinese market. Alibaba&#39;s lack of logistical infrastructure in the US to counterbalance Amazon&#39;s influence could position the company unfavorably in the long term. To mitigate this risk, Alibaba would need to consider strategic expansion into other markets.</p><h2 id=\"id_2850560331\">Conclusion</h2><p>In conclusion, Alibaba Group Holdings Limited emerges as a compelling investment opportunity marked by a resilient business model and diversified revenue streams. Despite recent challenges and regulatory uncertainties, the company&#39;s strategic segments, including e-commerce, cloud, and logistics, showcase robust growth potential domestically and internationally.</p><p>Throughout two DCF models, we observe that Alibaba&#39;s undervaluation could be as high as 161.9% considering analysts&#39; estimates. However, to make it more conservative, I conducted my own estimates which suggest that Alibaba is undervalued by 89.3%. After conducting the two models, I am assigning Alibaba a stock price target of $148.1, which is an 89.3% upside from the current stock price of $78.2. Furthermore, the stock could reach a price of $184.2 in FY 2029 (year 2028), which translates into 22.4% annual returns.</p><p>The undervaluation indicators, coupled with the recent stock pullback, suggest this is an attractive entry point for Alibaba Group Holding Limited stock, but investors must remain vigilant to risks associated with governmental influence, economic downturns, and foreign competition. Alibaba&#39;s adeptness in navigating these challenges, coupled with its financial strength and strategic positioning, positions it favorably for long-term growth.</p><p>Editor&#39;s Note: This article discusses one or more securities that do not trade on a major U.S. exchange. 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Additionally, the company abandoned its plans to spin off its cloud business, citing uncertainties in the growth trajectory caused by the U.S.-imposed restrictions on AI chip imports.Nevertheless, in this article, I will elucidate using two valuation models why Alibaba is significantly undervalued, marking an undervaluation of up to 80%. This substantial undervaluation provides a considerable margin of security for investors, warranting a \"strong buy\" recommendation. I propose a fair price of $148.1 for the stock.OverviewFQ2 2024 AlibabaFY 2023Q2 2024 EarningsIn FQ2 2024, Alibaba outperformed expectations in earnings but fell short on revenue, with a notable miss of $230 million. Despite this, the company reported an impressive EPS of $2.14, surpassing the consensus by $0.05.The most significant blow to these earnings results came as Alibaba opted to abandon its plan to spin off its cloud business. The rationale behind this decision was a belief that the spin-off would not deliver the anticipated shareholder value. Furthermore, the company pointed to the current export restrictions on AI chips imposed by the U.S., which has cast uncertainty over the prospects of its cloud segment.Adding to the challenges, Alibaba disclosed that Jack Ma's family trust intends to sell 10 million shares valued at $870.71 million on November 21.MarketE-Commerce ChinaAlibaba's primary focus lies in e-commerce, as illustrated in the table below, with a significant dependency on China, representing 67% of this segment. However, since 2021, Alibaba has successfully reduced its reliance on the Chinese market by 3%.In addition to its Chinese and international e-commerce segments, Alibaba operates in the \"wholesale\" segment. This facet involves collaboration with Chinese factories, functioning in a producer-to-consumer model. Notably, the cost per unit decreases with higher purchase quantities.Projections indicate an anticipated growth rate of 8.21% for the Chinese e-commerce market throughout 2027. In contrast, the global e-commerce market is expected to experience a more robust growth rate of approximately 15% by 2032.StatistaPrecedence ResearchLocal Consumer ServicesThe Local Consumer Services segment of Alibaba encompasses a range of diverse services designed to cater to various consumer needs. Among these services are Ele.me, a prominent on-demand delivery platform, Amap, providing digital mapping services along with real-time traffic information, Fliggy, an online travel platform, and Taoxianda, a platform aiding retailers in establishing and managing online stores.Cainiao - Platform Delivery ChinaCainiao, a company 70% owned by Alibaba following its acquisition of the majority stake in 2017, specializes in logistics. Serving as a crucial complement to Alibaba's e-commerce operations in China, Cainiao plays a pivotal role in ensuring timely deliveries within China, often achieving the impressive feat of completing deliveries in less than 24 hours.Notably, the platform delivery segment has experienced recent growth, propelled by the surge in e-commerce sales. Projections indicate a continued growth rate of 5.15% for this market throughout 2027.Author's Calculations with base on StatistaCloud - ChinaAlibaba also boasts a formidable presence in the cloud segment, initially slated for a significant spinoff as part of a major strategic plan. This move garnered widespread acclaim from investors, given the robust prospects of the cloud market in China. Projections estimate a noteworthy growth rate of 20.44%, and the autonomy of an independent Alibaba Cloud company is anticipated to drive rapid revenue expansion and robust cash-flow growth, particularly considering the high profitability associated with cloud services.Notably, the projected growth rate of 20.44% for the Chinese cloud market closely aligns with the impressive revenue growth that Alibaba has consistently demonstrated within its cloud segment.Author's Calculations with base on StatistaDigital Media & Entertainment - ChinaThe final segment in Alibaba's diverse portfolio is Digital Media and Entertainment, featuring key components such as Youku, a prominent video platform, and Alibaba Pictures, which encompasses intellectual property, licensing, and cinema ticketing management for the movie industry. Additionally, the company provides other content platforms and engages in the online gaming sector.Projections for the digital media market in China are optimistic, with an expected growth rate of 10.88%. This growth is anticipated to be fueled by the increasing revenue per user, projected to experience a substantial uptick of 7.6% from 2023 to 2027.StatistaStatistaFinancialAlibaba has demonstrated remarkable revenue growth over the past six years. Since FY2018, the company has achieved an annual revenue growth rate of 35.68%. However, in a recent development, Alibaba experienced its first decline in revenue, with a year-over-year reduction of 5.97%.What stands out is the company's ability to consistently grow its net income, a crucial factor influencing a discounted cash flow (\"DCF\") model. The net income has grown at a commendable annual rate of 15.57%, currently standing at $18.16 billion, though below the 2021 all-time high of $22.98 billion.In terms of margins, a noticeable downward trend is observed in both operating margin and net income margin. In FY2018, these metrics were above 25%, with the operating margin at 28.21% and the net income margin at 25.61%. As of the latest earnings release, both metrics have decreased to 14.66% and 14.50%, respectively.Author's CalculationsAuthor's CalculationsAlibaba's financial foundation appears robust, with a substantial cash reserve of $78.66 billion and a comparatively low debt burden. Long-term debt stands at $21.71 billion, while short-term debt is at $5.4 billion.Author's CalculationsDespite the overall positive financial outlook, Alibaba's free cash flow has experienced annual growth of 9.38%. The free cash flow margin, however, has seen a significant decrease from FY2018's 36.6% to the current level of 18.2%. This indicates a potential decrease in efficiency, and Alibaba attributes this shift to the presence of project-based contracts, which inherently have lower margins. The company is actively working to reduce the impact of these contracts to enhance overall margins.Author's CalculationsAuthor's CalculationsAuthor's CalculationsValuationIn this valuation of Alibaba, I will employ two distinct models: the first relies on analysts' estimates for revenue and net income, while the second model involves my own estimates formulated from scratch. These estimates are based on the anticipated growth rates within the markets of each of Alibaba's operating segments.The table below outlines the assumptions integral to calculating Alibaba's fair stock price. Notably, D&A, interest expenses, and CapEx will be computed using margins tied to revenue.Ultimately, the WACC will be derived from variables such as equity value, debt value, and the cost of debt, utilizing the widely recognized formula.For FY2023 and FY2024, analysts anticipate revenues of $133.3 billion and $145.93 billion, respectively. Subsequently, for FY2026-2029, I will apply an expected forward revenue growth rate of 4.87%.TABLE OF ASSUMPTIONS(Current data)Assumptions Part 1Equity Value141,772.60Debt Value27,182.30Cost of Debt3.49%Tax Rate12.76%10y Treasury4.80%Beta0.89Market Return10.50%Cost of Equity9.87%Assumptions Part 2CapEx4,702.10Capex Margin3.75%Net Income18,168.20Interest948.40Tax2,656.80D&A6,245.60Ebitda28,019.00D&A Margin4.98%Interest Expense Margin0.76%Revenue125,311.9Analysts' EstimatesFor FY2023 and FY2024, analysts are anticipating revenues of $133.3 billion and $145.93 billion, respectively. Looking ahead to FY2026-2029, a forward revenue growth rate of 4.87% will be applied.In terms of net income, analysts project an EPS of $8.92, translating to a net income of $22.63 billion for FY2024. For FY2025, the estimate increases to an EPS of $9.75, corresponding to a net income of $24.74 billion. Subsequently, for FY2026-2029, the anticipated 3-5 year long-term expected EPS growth rate of 17.45% will be applied.RevenueNet IncomePlus TaxesPlus D&APlus Interest2023$133,310.0$22,634.50$25,522.15$32,104.47$33,104.002024$145,930.0$24,740.63$27,896.97$34,479.29$35,478.822025$152,715.7$29,057.86$32,764.99$40,305.48$41,450.522026$159,817.0$34,128.46$38,482.48$46,373.61$47,571.882027$167,248.5$40,083.88$45,197.68$53,455.74$54,709.732028$175,025.6$47,078.51$53,084.67$61,726.73$63,039.04^Final EBITA^Author's CalculationsThe initial model suggests that Alibaba is undervalued by a significant margin, approximately 161.9%. According to this model, the fair stock price is estimated to be $204.9, closely aligning with the stock price on July 9, 2021, when the stock traded at $205.94, a period within the onset of the bear market.Additionally, the model indicates a projected future stock price of $274.7. This implies a potential gain of 41.9% until 2028, aligning with Alibaba's FY2029.Seeking AlphaMy EstimatesIn this alternative model, I have projected the growth of each of Alibaba's segments based on the expected CAGR in their respective markets. The Chinese Retail & Wholesale segments are forecasted to grow at a CAGR of 8.21%, International Retail & Wholesale at 15%, Cainiao in the Platform Delivery market at 5.15%, Chinese cloud at 20.44%, and Chinese Digital Media & Entertainment at a rate of 10.88%. For Local Consumer Services, where estimating revenues is challenging, a conservative growth rate of 5% has been applied, which is notably below the current YoY growth of 16% for this segment.Author's CalculationsRevenueNet IncomePlus TaxesPlus D&APlus InterestFY 2024$125,311.9$18,170.23$20,488.34$26,733.94$27,682.34FY 2025$137,322.4$19,911.75$22,452.04$28,697.64$29,646.04FY 2026$150,693.7$21,850.58$24,638.23$32,148.86$33,289.36FY 2027$165,610.7$24,013.55$27,077.14$35,331.25$36,584.65FY 2028$182,287.9$26,431.75$29,803.84$38,889.16$40,268.77FY 2029$200,974.3$29,141.27$32,859.04$42,875.69$44,396.73^Final EBITA^Author's CalculationsThis more conservative model suggests a fair price of $148.1, indicating an upside of 89.3% from the current stock price of $78.2. Looking ahead to FY2029, the projected stock price is $184.2, translating into annual returns of 22.6%. While not as high as the previous model, these returns are still substantial and attractive.Risks to ThesisThe primary risk factor in this bullish thesis revolves around the influence exerted by the Chinese Government. The government's control over corporations, as evidenced by the halt in the Ant Group's IPO in Hong Kong, poses a considerable risk. If there were a concerted effort to sideline Jack Ma, a key figure in the company's direction, it could deliver a significant intellectual blow to Alibaba. In such a scenario, the company would need to secure an equally capable protector, given Ma's influential role despite not holding the CEO position.Secondly, there exists the risk of a severe Chinese recession impacting Alibaba's sales volume. With over 65% of e-commerce revenues hinging on the Chinese market, the company is vulnerable to economic downturns. This vulnerability extends beyond e-commerce to include entertainment platforms and Cainiao, which is intricately tied to e-commerce operations.Lastly, there is the risk of a foreign competitor, such as Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN), succeeding in growing aggressively within the Chinese market. Alibaba's lack of logistical infrastructure in the US to counterbalance Amazon's influence could position the company unfavorably in the long term. To mitigate this risk, Alibaba would need to consider strategic expansion into other markets.ConclusionIn conclusion, Alibaba Group Holdings Limited emerges as a compelling investment opportunity marked by a resilient business model and diversified revenue streams. Despite recent challenges and regulatory uncertainties, the company's strategic segments, including e-commerce, cloud, and logistics, showcase robust growth potential domestically and internationally.Throughout two DCF models, we observe that Alibaba's undervaluation could be as high as 161.9% considering analysts' estimates. However, to make it more conservative, I conducted my own estimates which suggest that Alibaba is undervalued by 89.3%. After conducting the two models, I am assigning Alibaba a stock price target of $148.1, which is an 89.3% upside from the current stock price of $78.2. Furthermore, the stock could reach a price of $184.2 in FY 2029 (year 2028), which translates into 22.4% annual returns.The undervaluation indicators, coupled with the recent stock pullback, suggest this is an attractive entry point for Alibaba Group Holding Limited stock, but investors must remain vigilant to risks associated with governmental influence, economic downturns, and foreign competition. Alibaba's adeptness in navigating these challenges, coupled with its financial strength and strategic positioning, positions it favorably for long-term growth.Editor's Note: This article discusses one or more securities that do not trade on a major U.S. exchange. 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Waiting for its inclusion into SnP500.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/244139414519944","repostId":"2385036105","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2385036105","pubTimestamp":1700617200,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2385036105?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-11-22 09:40","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir Is A Log Rolling Down A Hill","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2385036105","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$ is a big data analytics company that is performing well with the rise of artificial intelligence.The company had strong quarterly results, with its 4th consecutive q","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PLTR\">Palantir Technologies Inc.</a> is a big data analytics company that is performing well with the rise of artificial intelligence.</p></li><li><p>The company had strong quarterly results, with its 4th consecutive quarter of GAAP profitability and a 17% YoY revenue growth.</p></li><li><p>Palantir&#39;s opportunity lies in its impressive software and the continued desire for it from major corporations, with the potential for increased profits and valuation.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ca0459f275b9aed733014624cae2dc80\" alt=\"Michael Vi\" title=\"Michael Vi\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/><span>Michael Vi</span></p><p><strong>Palantir Technologies Inc.</strong> (NYSE:PLTR) is a big data analytics company. Especially with the rise of artificial intelligence, or AI, the company has performed well recently. We think the company is in a great position. Amazon&#39;s (AMZN) Amazon Web Services, or AWS, revolutionized the compute industry, despite its higher cost per unit-compute, because of how it freed up resources for major companies.</p><p>With the growth of artificial intelligence, we expect Palantir to do the same for artificial intelligence and big data.</p><h2 id=\"id_3976357080\">Palantir Quarterly Results</h2><p>The company had strong results in the most recent quarter.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7e19be0ac5264148e507755a6827ed9e\" alt=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" title=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"302\"/><span>Palantir Investor Presentation</span></p><p>The company had its 4th consecutive quarter of GAAP profitability in Q3. Profitability remains low, but for a growing company, it&#39;s still impressive. The company&#39;s margin of 7% is up substantially YoY. Continued improvement in margins will enable profits to grow faster than revenues that are already growing quickly. That growth in profits will justify investing today.</p><p>The company&#39;s revenue managed to grow a very respectable 17% YoY and is now annualized at well over $2 billion. That was supported by incredibly strong growth in the company&#39;s commercial business as the company continues to take advantage of the artificial intelligence wave. Growing revenue and growing margins are essential for long-term returns.</p><p>At the end of the day the company earned $141 million in adjusted free cash flow (&#34;FCF&#34;), or annualized FCF of more than $550 million. The company has a market cap more almost $44 billion, meaning a FCF yield of more than 1%. That shows the company&#39;s financial and cash flow strength.</p><h2 id=\"id_2948552223\">Palantir Opportunity</h2><p>The opportunity for Palantir is based on organizations continuing to see the benefits to their operations.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5b8c878a43a7194573cbcf208dc081d6\" alt=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" title=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"305\"/><span>Palantir Investor Presentation</span></p><p>The company&#39;s opportunity is evident in its growth from being used by 1% of hospital beds across the U.S. a year ago. Now it is being utilized at 16% of hospital beds across the U.S.. That growth is substantial. The same kind of growth is being seen at the company&#39;s commercial partners. The company has an effective multi-stage process.</p><p>First, the company incentivizes and grabs a new customer. From that point, the company rapidly grows its scale with the customers. It shows them the opportunity it offers and gains larger and larger contracts. That double-whammy of new customers and rapid revenue growth per customer results in much faster overall medical growth.</p><p>The company grew its revenue 17% YoY, showing the continued desire for its products, and its profit growing even faster, shows that same desire.</p><h2 id=\"id_3436228380\">Palantir Financials</h2><p>Another exciting thing is the company&#39;s commercial financial growth.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1b0177c72327780466d9528352603e06\" alt=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" title=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"298\"/><span>Palantir Investor Presentation</span></p><p>For a long time, the company was the preferred partner of governments, and to be fair it remains so. It continued to offer strong solutions to governments, and continued to win massive contracts to help them modernize and improve. While that was exciting to see, that growth for the company was relatively much slower.</p><p>A trend has come in the past year. Commercial companies are increasingly recognizing the company&#39;s potential, supported by the overall movement for artificial intelligence.</p><h2 id=\"id_3347772233\">Palantir Opportunity</h2><p>The opportunity in Palantir is in the company&#39;s impressive software and the continued desire for that software from major corporations. It enables those corporations to improve their workflows and operations at a much lower cost than what it would traditionally cost them to build software operations and build out those divisions.</p><p>At the same time, as revenue grows, Palantir&#39;s margins will increase. That&#39;s because the fixed costs will be increasingly spread outwards. That enables profits to increase even faster, which eventually justifies the company&#39;s valuation. That opportunity, versus Palantir&#39;s current valuation, is immense. In the meantime, the company has a strong cash position to support operations.</p><h2 id=\"id_1344189110\">Thesis Risk</h2><p>The largest risk to our thesis is the converse. That the trend changes and companies simply don&#39;t see sufficient opportunity in the company&#39;s software offerings. Given the company&#39;s lofty valuation that its current profits don&#39;t justify, that could lead to rapid poor returns in its share price, making the company a poor investment.</p><h2 id=\"id_3275605160\">Conclusion</h2><p>Palantir Technologies Inc. is a log rolling down a hill. The pace is picking up. The company continues to see strong growth in its government business, but now, thanks to artificial intelligence, the company&#39;s commercial segment is picking up even quicker. In our view, the company offers to customers what AWS did for computing.</p><p>The company&#39;s revenue is growing and its profits are growing even faster. That helps to make the company a valuable investment, as its profits continue to grow, justifying its valuation. Let us know your thoughts in the comments below.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir Is A Log Rolling Down A Hill</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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(NYSE:PLTR) is a big data analytics company. Especially with the rise of artificial intelligence, or AI, the company has performed well recently. We think the company is in a great position. Amazon's (AMZN) Amazon Web Services, or AWS, revolutionized the compute industry, despite its higher cost per unit-compute, because of how it freed up resources for major companies.With the growth of artificial intelligence, we expect Palantir to do the same for artificial intelligence and big data.Palantir Quarterly ResultsThe company had strong results in the most recent quarter.Palantir Investor PresentationThe company had its 4th consecutive quarter of GAAP profitability in Q3. Profitability remains low, but for a growing company, it's still impressive. The company's margin of 7% is up substantially YoY. Continued improvement in margins will enable profits to grow faster than revenues that are already growing quickly. That growth in profits will justify investing today.The company's revenue managed to grow a very respectable 17% YoY and is now annualized at well over $2 billion. That was supported by incredibly strong growth in the company's commercial business as the company continues to take advantage of the artificial intelligence wave. Growing revenue and growing margins are essential for long-term returns.At the end of the day the company earned $141 million in adjusted free cash flow (\"FCF\"), or annualized FCF of more than $550 million. The company has a market cap more almost $44 billion, meaning a FCF yield of more than 1%. That shows the company's financial and cash flow strength.Palantir OpportunityThe opportunity for Palantir is based on organizations continuing to see the benefits to their operations.Palantir Investor PresentationThe company's opportunity is evident in its growth from being used by 1% of hospital beds across the U.S. a year ago. Now it is being utilized at 16% of hospital beds across the U.S.. That growth is substantial. The same kind of growth is being seen at the company's commercial partners. The company has an effective multi-stage process.First, the company incentivizes and grabs a new customer. From that point, the company rapidly grows its scale with the customers. It shows them the opportunity it offers and gains larger and larger contracts. That double-whammy of new customers and rapid revenue growth per customer results in much faster overall medical growth.The company grew its revenue 17% YoY, showing the continued desire for its products, and its profit growing even faster, shows that same desire.Palantir FinancialsAnother exciting thing is the company's commercial financial growth.Palantir Investor PresentationFor a long time, the company was the preferred partner of governments, and to be fair it remains so. It continued to offer strong solutions to governments, and continued to win massive contracts to help them modernize and improve. While that was exciting to see, that growth for the company was relatively much slower.A trend has come in the past year. Commercial companies are increasingly recognizing the company's potential, supported by the overall movement for artificial intelligence.Palantir OpportunityThe opportunity in Palantir is in the company's impressive software and the continued desire for that software from major corporations. It enables those corporations to improve their workflows and operations at a much lower cost than what it would traditionally cost them to build software operations and build out those divisions.At the same time, as revenue grows, Palantir's margins will increase. That's because the fixed costs will be increasingly spread outwards. That enables profits to increase even faster, which eventually justifies the company's valuation. That opportunity, versus Palantir's current valuation, is immense. In the meantime, the company has a strong cash position to support operations.Thesis RiskThe largest risk to our thesis is the converse. That the trend changes and companies simply don't see sufficient opportunity in the company's software offerings. Given the company's lofty valuation that its current profits don't justify, that could lead to rapid poor returns in its share price, making the company a poor investment.ConclusionPalantir Technologies Inc. is a log rolling down a hill. The pace is picking up. The company continues to see strong growth in its government business, but now, thanks to artificial intelligence, the company's commercial segment is picking up even quicker. In our view, the company offers to customers what AWS did for computing.The company's revenue is growing and its profits are growing even faster. That helps to make the company a valuable investment, as its profits continue to grow, justifying its valuation. Let us know your thoughts in the comments below.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":450,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":243519168040976,"gmtCreate":1700489928814,"gmtModify":1700489934212,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Are you really&nbsp;serious?? Or telling us a joke&nbsp;[LOL]&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;","listText":"Are you really&nbsp;serious?? Or telling us a joke&nbsp;[LOL]&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;","text":"Are you really serious?? Or telling us a joke [LOL]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/243519168040976","repostId":"2384589323","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":182,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":215509951156256,"gmtCreate":1693645557783,"gmtModify":1693645563196,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"How come Palantir is not on the list??[Victory]&nbsp;","listText":"How come Palantir is not on the list??[Victory]&nbsp;","text":"How come Palantir is not on the list??[Victory]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/215509951156256","repostId":"2364241574","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2364241574","pubTimestamp":1693625874,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2364241574?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-09-02 11:37","market":"us","language":"en","title":"7 Up-and-Coming AI Stocks to Put on Your Must-Buy List","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2364241574","media":"InvestorPlace","summary":"Looking to generate higher returns with top AI stocks? These up-and-coming AI stocks may outperform the market.","content":"<html><head></head><body><p><strong>Nvidia</strong> (NASDAQ:<strong>NVDA</strong>) proved the artificial intelligence (<strong>AI</strong>) boom is here to stay. Revenue jumped by 101% year-over-year, as net income soared by 843% year-over-year. While these growth rates won’t last forever, they are here right now and can make Nvidia’s valuation more manageable in future quarters, especially for investors who scoop up shares at current price levels. It’s just one of the top AI stocks with huge potential.</p><p>While I have been bearish on Nvidia solely due to its valuation, other AI stocks don’t have the same disadvantage. These stocks also give investors an opportunity to ride the AI boom, but they don’t have the frothy valuation Nvidia has built up over the years. Investors looking for a promising investment in the AI boom may want to consider these seven up-and-coming AI stocks.</p><h2 id=\"id_1394862499\">AI Stocks with Huge Potential: Super Micro Computer (SMCI)</h2><p><strong>Super Micro Computer</strong> (NASDAQ: <strong>SMCI</strong>) has stayed in stride with Nvidia’s year-to-date returns and has comfortably outperformed it over the past five years. It gained over 228% year-to-date and has appreciated by 1,200% over the past five years.</p><p>Those types of returns can make any shareholder happy, but the company’s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio of 23, and its ideal positioning for the AI boom suggest more gains are on the way. The company offers AI infrastructure solutions that will gain demand as more companies embrace artificial intelligence. It also has a close partnership with Nvidia, which means rising demand for the latter will contribute to stronger financials for Super Micro Computer.</p><p>Super Micro Computer’s net income more than doubled in fiscal year 2023. The company expects to generate $9.5 billion to $10.5 billion in net sales in fiscal year 2024. The midpoint, $10 billion, represents a 40.5% year-over-year growth rate. The rising demand for AI can help the company exceed its guidance as Nvidia did for its investors. Either way, strong revenue and earnings growth bode well for a reasonably priced company.</p><h2 id=\"id_3929729199\">Axcelis Technologies (ACLS)</h2><p><strong>Axcelis Technologies</strong> (NASDAQ: <strong>ACLS</strong>) is another AI beneficiary that rewarded shareholders before talks about artificial intelligence became mainstream. Shares have gained 139% year-to-date and are up by 850% over the past five years. The company is smaller than some of the other artificial intelligence stocks on this list. ACLS has a market cap below $6 billion and a P/E ratio under 30.</p><p>The company has been a semiconductor leader for over 40 years and produces the transistors companies use to create semiconductors. Axcelis’ ion implantation technology is critical for the industry and has led to strong financials.</p><p>Axcelis Technologies comfortably beat earnings expectations and set new guidance above what analysts expected. Revenue in the second quarter reached $274.0 million, marking a 23.9% year-over-year improvement. Net income hit $61.6 million which equates to a 39.4% year-over-year increase. Artificial intelligence relies on semiconductors and stands to gain more business as AI chips become more popular.</p><h2 id=\"id_773165869\">AI Stocks with Huge Potential: Broadcom (AVGO)</h2><p><strong>Broadcom</strong> (NASDAQ: <strong>AVGO</strong>) is a semiconductor leader that has rewarded investors for several years. Its history of growing its dividend is hard to match. Plus,   shares have almost quadrupled over the past five years. They are also up by 66% year-to-date.</p><p>The firm serves data centers, enterprise software companies, telecom giants, and other leaders across several business verticals. Broadcom is strengthening its cloud computing and cybersecurity initiatives through the acquisition of VMware. Broadcom recently affirmed that the acquisition will be completed on October 30th. The VMware acquisition will strengthen Broadcom’s financials, and the firm’s numbers are already solid. Broadcom has high profit margins and a good history of year-over-year revenue and earnings growth.</p><p>Broadcom shares currently trades with a P/E of 27, with a forward P/E ratio of 19. Those valuation metrics indicate AVGO stock has more to gain.</p><h2 id=\"id_2650798771\">Arista Networks (ANET)</h2><p><strong>Arista Networks</strong> (NYSE: <strong>ANET</strong>) has been another tech winner. Shares have gained 61% year-to-date and are up by 161% over the past five years. Shares currently trade at a 33 P/E ratio, and financials look promising. In the second quarter, Arista reported 38.7% year-over-year revenue growth and 64.5% year-over-year GAAP net income growth. The firm set revenue guidance for $1.45 billion to $1.50 billion in the third quarter. The $1.475 billion midpoint represents 25% year-over-year revenue growth.</p><p>Arista Networks provides GPU and Storage interconnects which are critical for artificial intelligence. The company provides high-performing networks while seeking to lower operational costs for customers. Arista Networks isn’t only an artificial intelligence pick. It also provides cloud networking and cybersecurity solutions. The stock currently has a $55 billion market cap and is less than 10% away from its all-time high.</p><h2 id=\"id_433992020\">AI Stocks with Huge Potential: Qualcomm (QCOM)</h2><p><strong>Qualcomm</strong> (NASDAQ: <strong>QCOM</strong>) makes semiconductors that many smartphone makers use in their devices. Although Qualcomm stands to benefit from the AI boom, investors wouldn’t get that indication from the stock’s measly 1% year-to-date return.</p><p>Shares are also down by 14% over the past year, but they have gained 64% over the past five years. Why do the uninspiring year-to-date and 1-year performances make Qualcomm worthy of a closer look? The stock has less to lose if the AI boom ever fizzles. Shares trade at a 14 P/E ratio, and the dividend yield is close to 3%. The company reported Q2 revenue of $8.5 billion which is down by roughly 20% year-over-year. The company made some progress by having EPS exceed the midpoint of guidance.</p><p>Qualcomm also has a PEG ratio close to one, a metric that usually indicates the stock is reasonably valued. Management remains confident that Qualcomm is in a good position to capitalize on the AI boom, a development that can lead to a higher stock price. QCOM stock has less to lose if an AI boom fades, but it still has plenty to gain due to its low valuation.</p><h2 id=\"id_1401016750\">Digital Realty Trust (DLR)</h2><p><strong>Digital Realty Trust</strong> (NYSE: <strong>DLR</strong>) is a real estate investment trust (<strong>REIT</strong>) that invests in data centers. These properties are critical for artificial intelligence, but they also serve other uses, such as web server storage. Top internet companies like <strong><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/META\">Meta Platforms</a></strong> (NASDAQ: <strong>META</strong>) and banking conglomerates like <strong>J.P. Morgan</strong> (NYSE: <strong>JPM</strong>) use Digital Realty Trust’s properties.</p><p>The stock has been mostly flat over the past five years, but artificial intelligence is set to change that trend. DLR stock has increased by 28% year-to-date and offers a dividend yield hovering close to 4%.</p><p>Digital Realty Trust has over 5,000 customers spread across over 300 data centers. Those customers’ needs will grow if some of them embrace artificial intelligence tools and software. Digital Realty Trust has been able to raise its prices for many of its properties while securing high occupancy rates. Price hikes and the firm’s large customer base contributed to a 24.1% year-over-year revenue jump and 86.3% year-over-year net income growth in the second quarter.</p><h2 id=\"id_389863098\">Equinix (EQIX)</h2><p><strong>Equinix</strong> (NASDAQ: <strong>EQIX</strong>) competes with Digital Realty Trust as a data center REIT. The company enjoys the same tailwinds as DLR but has performed better over the past five years. During that time, EQIX shares have been up by 79%. However, EQIX stock’s year-to-date returns are only 17.9% which trails DLR stock.</p><p>Second quarter revenue grew by 11% year-over-year. Equinix’s updated guidance suggests the company will achieve 12%-14% year-over-year revenue growth for Fiscal Year 2023. The firm has data centers spread across the Americas, Eurasia, Africa, and Australia. In addition, 53 major projects are currently underway in 40 cities and 23 countries.</p><p>While investors wait for the developments to play out, they get to enjoy a 1.75% dividend yield. The company hiked its dividend by 10% in 2023, taking the quarterly cash distribution from $3.10/share to $3.41/share. 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Revenue jumped by 101% year-over-year, as net income soared by 843% year-over-year. While these growth rates won’t ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/2023/08/7-up-and-coming-ai-stocks-to-put-on-your-must-buy-list/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"DLR":"数字房地产信托公司","ACLS":"Axcelis科技设计公司","AVGO":"博通","ANET":"Arista Networks, Inc.","EQIX":"易昆尼克斯","SMCI":"超微电脑","QCOM":"高通"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/2023/08/7-up-and-coming-ai-stocks-to-put-on-your-must-buy-list/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2364241574","content_text":"Nvidia (NASDAQ:NVDA) proved the artificial intelligence (AI) boom is here to stay. Revenue jumped by 101% year-over-year, as net income soared by 843% year-over-year. While these growth rates won’t last forever, they are here right now and can make Nvidia’s valuation more manageable in future quarters, especially for investors who scoop up shares at current price levels. It’s just one of the top AI stocks with huge potential.While I have been bearish on Nvidia solely due to its valuation, other AI stocks don’t have the same disadvantage. These stocks also give investors an opportunity to ride the AI boom, but they don’t have the frothy valuation Nvidia has built up over the years. Investors looking for a promising investment in the AI boom may want to consider these seven up-and-coming AI stocks.AI Stocks with Huge Potential: Super Micro Computer (SMCI)Super Micro Computer (NASDAQ: SMCI) has stayed in stride with Nvidia’s year-to-date returns and has comfortably outperformed it over the past five years. It gained over 228% year-to-date and has appreciated by 1,200% over the past five years.Those types of returns can make any shareholder happy, but the company’s price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio of 23, and its ideal positioning for the AI boom suggest more gains are on the way. The company offers AI infrastructure solutions that will gain demand as more companies embrace artificial intelligence. It also has a close partnership with Nvidia, which means rising demand for the latter will contribute to stronger financials for Super Micro Computer.Super Micro Computer’s net income more than doubled in fiscal year 2023. The company expects to generate $9.5 billion to $10.5 billion in net sales in fiscal year 2024. The midpoint, $10 billion, represents a 40.5% year-over-year growth rate. The rising demand for AI can help the company exceed its guidance as Nvidia did for its investors. Either way, strong revenue and earnings growth bode well for a reasonably priced company.Axcelis Technologies (ACLS)Axcelis Technologies (NASDAQ: ACLS) is another AI beneficiary that rewarded shareholders before talks about artificial intelligence became mainstream. Shares have gained 139% year-to-date and are up by 850% over the past five years. The company is smaller than some of the other artificial intelligence stocks on this list. ACLS has a market cap below $6 billion and a P/E ratio under 30.The company has been a semiconductor leader for over 40 years and produces the transistors companies use to create semiconductors. Axcelis’ ion implantation technology is critical for the industry and has led to strong financials.Axcelis Technologies comfortably beat earnings expectations and set new guidance above what analysts expected. Revenue in the second quarter reached $274.0 million, marking a 23.9% year-over-year improvement. Net income hit $61.6 million which equates to a 39.4% year-over-year increase. Artificial intelligence relies on semiconductors and stands to gain more business as AI chips become more popular.AI Stocks with Huge Potential: Broadcom (AVGO)Broadcom (NASDAQ: AVGO) is a semiconductor leader that has rewarded investors for several years. Its history of growing its dividend is hard to match. Plus,   shares have almost quadrupled over the past five years. They are also up by 66% year-to-date.The firm serves data centers, enterprise software companies, telecom giants, and other leaders across several business verticals. Broadcom is strengthening its cloud computing and cybersecurity initiatives through the acquisition of VMware. Broadcom recently affirmed that the acquisition will be completed on October 30th. The VMware acquisition will strengthen Broadcom’s financials, and the firm’s numbers are already solid. Broadcom has high profit margins and a good history of year-over-year revenue and earnings growth.Broadcom shares currently trades with a P/E of 27, with a forward P/E ratio of 19. Those valuation metrics indicate AVGO stock has more to gain.Arista Networks (ANET)Arista Networks (NYSE: ANET) has been another tech winner. Shares have gained 61% year-to-date and are up by 161% over the past five years. Shares currently trade at a 33 P/E ratio, and financials look promising. In the second quarter, Arista reported 38.7% year-over-year revenue growth and 64.5% year-over-year GAAP net income growth. The firm set revenue guidance for $1.45 billion to $1.50 billion in the third quarter. The $1.475 billion midpoint represents 25% year-over-year revenue growth.Arista Networks provides GPU and Storage interconnects which are critical for artificial intelligence. The company provides high-performing networks while seeking to lower operational costs for customers. Arista Networks isn’t only an artificial intelligence pick. It also provides cloud networking and cybersecurity solutions. The stock currently has a $55 billion market cap and is less than 10% away from its all-time high.AI Stocks with Huge Potential: Qualcomm (QCOM)Qualcomm (NASDAQ: QCOM) makes semiconductors that many smartphone makers use in their devices. Although Qualcomm stands to benefit from the AI boom, investors wouldn’t get that indication from the stock’s measly 1% year-to-date return.Shares are also down by 14% over the past year, but they have gained 64% over the past five years. Why do the uninspiring year-to-date and 1-year performances make Qualcomm worthy of a closer look? The stock has less to lose if the AI boom ever fizzles. Shares trade at a 14 P/E ratio, and the dividend yield is close to 3%. The company reported Q2 revenue of $8.5 billion which is down by roughly 20% year-over-year. The company made some progress by having EPS exceed the midpoint of guidance.Qualcomm also has a PEG ratio close to one, a metric that usually indicates the stock is reasonably valued. Management remains confident that Qualcomm is in a good position to capitalize on the AI boom, a development that can lead to a higher stock price. QCOM stock has less to lose if an AI boom fades, but it still has plenty to gain due to its low valuation.Digital Realty Trust (DLR)Digital Realty Trust (NYSE: DLR) is a real estate investment trust (REIT) that invests in data centers. These properties are critical for artificial intelligence, but they also serve other uses, such as web server storage. Top internet companies like Meta Platforms (NASDAQ: META) and banking conglomerates like J.P. Morgan (NYSE: JPM) use Digital Realty Trust’s properties.The stock has been mostly flat over the past five years, but artificial intelligence is set to change that trend. DLR stock has increased by 28% year-to-date and offers a dividend yield hovering close to 4%.Digital Realty Trust has over 5,000 customers spread across over 300 data centers. Those customers’ needs will grow if some of them embrace artificial intelligence tools and software. Digital Realty Trust has been able to raise its prices for many of its properties while securing high occupancy rates. Price hikes and the firm’s large customer base contributed to a 24.1% year-over-year revenue jump and 86.3% year-over-year net income growth in the second quarter.Equinix (EQIX)Equinix (NASDAQ: EQIX) competes with Digital Realty Trust as a data center REIT. The company enjoys the same tailwinds as DLR but has performed better over the past five years. During that time, EQIX shares have been up by 79%. However, EQIX stock’s year-to-date returns are only 17.9% which trails DLR stock.Second quarter revenue grew by 11% year-over-year. Equinix’s updated guidance suggests the company will achieve 12%-14% year-over-year revenue growth for Fiscal Year 2023. The firm has data centers spread across the Americas, Eurasia, Africa, and Australia. In addition, 53 major projects are currently underway in 40 cities and 23 countries.While investors wait for the developments to play out, they get to enjoy a 1.75% dividend yield. The company hiked its dividend by 10% in 2023, taking the quarterly cash distribution from $3.10/share to $3.41/share. The company has been reliable with dividend hikes ranging from high single digits to low double digits.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":331,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":212705494687848,"gmtCreate":1692969891826,"gmtModify":1692969896756,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Great analysis/insights","listText":"Great analysis/insights","text":"Great analysis/insights","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/212705494687848","repostId":"2361969892","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2361969892","pubTimestamp":1692969090,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2361969892?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-08-25 21:11","market":"us","language":"en","title":"It's Do Or Die For Apple Stock","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2361969892","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"We remain concerned over the adverse impact higher interest rates will have on demand for its iPhone, iPads and MacBooks in the US.We do not anticipate significant earnings growth for Apple for the re","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul><li><p>We remain concerned over the adverse impact higher interest rates will have on demand for its iPhone, iPads and MacBooks in the US.</p></li><li><p>We do not anticipate significant earnings growth for Apple for the remaining 2023 calendar year and we remain on the sideline.</p></li><li><p>From a technical perspective, Apple’s long-term chart was at a significant resistance level. Apple giving us a 5-wave drop from the recent high is a big warning to the bulls.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d4a1186a40265ca1754b87e5dc51f973\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"498\"/></p><p>Wirestock</p><p>As inflation continues to fade in the US economy, along with a higher stock market, many are now celebrating a successful soft-landing maneuvered by the FED.</p><p>What these investors fail to realize in my view is: 1) the speed at which the FED raised rates in 2022 was one of the steepest rate hiking cycles in modern market history. This means that we haven’t had enough time to feel the effects of these hikes, which can give a false sense of security. 2) The lag time between a rate hike and the effects felt on the economy have a 9-12 month lag, while some estimate a 18-24 month lag. Assuming the best-case scenario, this would have us just now starting to experience the first rounds of the sequential 75 bps hikes from mid-2022.</p><p>As these rate hikes continue to filter into the economy, we will only see the consumer get weaker as a result. Therefore, entering this current earnings season, we were closely monitoring the impact of higher interest rates on consumer demand. In particular, segments where consumers rely on financing to make purchases and make monthly payments toward them. Higher interest rates are effectively price hikes above the purchase price and result in higher monthly payments.</p><p>For example, we recently exited Enphase around the $180 region over these concerns. Enphase sells solar inverters to installers who then sell them to consumers for home installation. Typically, installers rely on banks to provide financing to consumers for these purchases, who then pay monthly. Higher interest rates are making the economics of solar installation less attractive. Consumer demand has declined and inventory has accumulated in the channel. Enphase expects it will take at least a quarter for it to be cleared.</p><p>We also closed most of our TSLA position for a +60% profit over similar concerns. In the article “Tesla Q2 Earnings – It’s About Margins” we stated: “While some will talk about recurring software revenue from robotaxis as the most important catalyst, the harsh reality is that the FED lowering rates is the most important catalyst for Tesla today.” For consumers who chose to finance their electric vehicles, Tesla has reduced prices of its cars in part to reduce the monthly costs consumers have to pay due to higher interest rates. As a result, Tesla’s group operating margins have declined from 16% at the end of 2022 to 9.6% in Q223. Tesla signaled it will continue to lower prices to offset the “price increase” from higher rates.</p><h2 id=\"id_1029048872\">Interest rates are taking a bite out of Apple</h2><p>We had previously written about Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL) with a Hold rating in January this year and the solace in the near term is that the stock benefits from China&#39;s reopening trade. <em>&#34;The divergence between Apple Inc. and the Dow Jones Industrial Average Index is alarming. More times than not, when important stocks/markets start moving in opposite directions, it&#39;s a warning sign that one market needs to catch up with the other.&#34;</em></p><p>We do not believe Apple is immune to the interest rate dynamics, considering their exposure to the consumer. We remain concerned over the adverse impact higher interest rates will have on demand for its iPhone, iPads and MacBooks in the US. In Apple’s most recent Q3FY23 call, they stated the following:</p><blockquote><p>The majority of iPhones, at this point, are sold using some kind of a program, trade-ins, installments, some kind of financing. And that percentage, which again, it&#39;s well over 50%, is very similar across developed and emerging markets.”</p></blockquote><p>In its recent Q3FY23 earnings release, the Americas region which is primarily the US market declined by 6% while ROW showed moderate declines over the most recent 9 months. China and Emerging Markets have been a relative bright spot although the stronger USD continues to be a headwind. On the product side, iPhone sales were down 4% and Mac sales down 24%. Services are an important segment that has been growing, which has helped both from a sales and margin perspective.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f4dc3e722dc452f4ad28d1a0f7786e25\" tg-width=\"404\" tg-height=\"351\"/></p><p>Tech Insider Network</p><p>This is how Apple described the US market.</p><blockquote><p>… the Americas is still declining somewhat year-over-year, as you can see on the data sheet. The primary reason for that is that it&#39;s a challenging smartphone market in the U.S. currently.”</p></blockquote><p>The uncertain macro, cell phone penetration maturation, and people holding off on upgrading to a new phone are all likely contributing factors to the current challenges in the US market. Meanwhile, the average price of an iPhone is approaching $1,000. We believe that given that over 50% of iPhones (likely higher in the US) are purchased through financing, higher interest rates are having an impact much like we’ve seen across other consumer discretionary segments.</p><p>Another factor we’re monitoring is the promotional activity by the major US carriers - ATT, Verizon and T-Mobile - who have become more focused on cashflow. Historically, this has been a very large market for iPhones. For example, the carriers may have promotional programs to help consumers upgrade by giving a cash rebate if they bring in their old phone.</p><p>For example, in its recent Q223 earnings call, Verizon stated</p><blockquote><p>Additionally, we expect less pressure from the amortization and promotional cost in the second half of the year, given the softer upgrade environment and our disciplined approach to promotional spending.”</p></blockquote><p>Apple provided guidance for the September quarter.</p><blockquote><p>We expect our September quarter year-over-year revenue performance to be similar to the June quarter, assuming that the macroeconomic outlook doesn&#39;t worsen from what we are projecting today for the current quarter […]</p><p>“We expect iPhone and Services year-over-year performance to accelerate from the June quarter. Also, we expect the revenue for both Mac and iPad to decline by double digits year-over-year due to difficult compares, particularly on the Mac.”</p></blockquote><p>Given the factors described, we do not anticipate significant earnings growth for Apple for the remaining 2023 calendar year and we remain on the sidelines. While Apple’s US market share has increased, overall US Smartphone shipments continue to decline according to Counterpoint Research.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e4d1ba8a76d1cd76188d72dfb4380a56\" tg-width=\"541\" tg-height=\"389\"/></p><p>Counterpoint Research</p><h4 id=\"id_1924082524\"></h4><h3 id=\"id_1692212976\">Our fundamental view has been supported by our technical view</h3><p>We were warning our members about Apple going into its recent earnings. From a technical perspective, Apple’s long-term chart was at a significant resistance level. If we place a Gann Fan at the 2003 low, which is just a sequence of significant angles that stock prices tend to respect, the red 1x1 line is the most important angle to monitor.</p><p>This angle is a true 45-degree angle, at which, big reactions tend to happen. Note the last time that Apple’s price touched this angle from the 2003 low. It marked the 2022 top. Interestingly, AAPL was testing this angle again going into earnings.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/26fa3cfcd3174dde8d2478930b54686a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"392\"/></p><p>Tech Insider Network</p><p>Further warning could be seen in AAPL’s forward valuations. Going into earnings, not only was Apple’s price at a significant angle, as shown above, but its forward Price to Sales was trading above the 2022 high.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ff76882c5dc67440f2fe3afc6970d368\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"284\"/></p><p>Ycharts</p><h2 id=\"id_1636645615\">It’s Do or Die for Apple Stock</h2><p>Apple is the largest stock in both the NASDAQ and in the S&amp;P 500. The direction it goes, so goes the market. For this reason, we put an outsized amount of analysis into this stock. We are not surprised by the market’s reaction to AAPL’s earnings. Now we’ll address the most important question – is this the start of a significant top, or is it a pitstop on its way to fresh highs?</p><p>In the below chart, I have two general counts that we are tracking based on the current price information:</p><ul><li><p>Blue – This count suggests that we are ending a large rally in an ongoing bear market. Some would call this a cyclical bull market in a secular bear market. Regardless, <strong>the structure of the next leg lower would have to be a 5-wave pattern</strong>, and ultimately break below the $154 critical support. If this happens, we will retest the January lows, at minimum.</p></li><li><p>Red – This count suggests that we are in a correction within a larger uptrend, which would ultimately take us to new highs. <strong>The key indicator of this scenario playing out would be a 3-wave drop</strong> that holds the $154 level. If this happens, Apple, and the market, would be providing an excellent buying opportunity.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/277a9fa5228692d6fabd55542e3460c8\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"333\"/></p><p>Tech Insider Network</p><p>Also worth pointing out, note the gap down on heavy volume. Gaps are important markers in a trend. More times than not, they tend to start counter moves, which is why this needs to be watched so closely. Reclaiming this gap will be challenging, and supports the blue count while it remains open.</p><p>Now, if we zoom into the structure of this drop, it is very clear that we have a 5-wave pattern pointing down from the high. This is concerning. The next criteria will be a break below $154 to confirm a larger top is in. Both scenarios suggest a bounce soon, and then lower levels. So, the time to risk-manage will be on this next bounce.</p><p>However, Apple giving us a 5-wave drop from the recent high is a big warning to the bulls. From a risk management perspective, we believe the evidence is high enough to plan around the Blue count. If we are wrong, we will know at lower levels, and have ample time to reverse for the next swing to new highs. But, for now, we prefer to play it safe based on what the technical and Apple’s management are telling us.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/219f7b122c02d8bcd0baf724f53e668c\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"335\"/></p><p>Tech Insider Network</p><h2 id=\"id_516102711\">What&#39;s next</h2><p>In conclusion, it takes time for rate hikes to filter into the economy. Some businesses feel the effects sooner, like manufacturing; however, if a business has heavy exposure to the consumer, they tend to be more sensitive to economic slowdowns. We saw this with Enphase, then Tesla, and now Apple is forecasting a continued slowdown in their core business, while the technical are providing warning signs of a potential significant trend change. We are due for a bounce, but the odds favor lower levels after.</p><p><em>The Tech Insider Network Analyst Team contributed to this article.</em></p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>It's Do Or Die For Apple Stock</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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Apple giving us a 5-wave drop from the recent high is a big warning to the bulls.WirestockAs inflation continues to fade in the US economy, along with a higher stock market, many are now celebrating a successful soft-landing maneuvered by the FED.What these investors fail to realize in my view is: 1) the speed at which the FED raised rates in 2022 was one of the steepest rate hiking cycles in modern market history. This means that we haven’t had enough time to feel the effects of these hikes, which can give a false sense of security. 2) The lag time between a rate hike and the effects felt on the economy have a 9-12 month lag, while some estimate a 18-24 month lag. Assuming the best-case scenario, this would have us just now starting to experience the first rounds of the sequential 75 bps hikes from mid-2022.As these rate hikes continue to filter into the economy, we will only see the consumer get weaker as a result. Therefore, entering this current earnings season, we were closely monitoring the impact of higher interest rates on consumer demand. In particular, segments where consumers rely on financing to make purchases and make monthly payments toward them. Higher interest rates are effectively price hikes above the purchase price and result in higher monthly payments.For example, we recently exited Enphase around the $180 region over these concerns. Enphase sells solar inverters to installers who then sell them to consumers for home installation. Typically, installers rely on banks to provide financing to consumers for these purchases, who then pay monthly. Higher interest rates are making the economics of solar installation less attractive. Consumer demand has declined and inventory has accumulated in the channel. Enphase expects it will take at least a quarter for it to be cleared.We also closed most of our TSLA position for a +60% profit over similar concerns. In the article “Tesla Q2 Earnings – It’s About Margins” we stated: “While some will talk about recurring software revenue from robotaxis as the most important catalyst, the harsh reality is that the FED lowering rates is the most important catalyst for Tesla today.” For consumers who chose to finance their electric vehicles, Tesla has reduced prices of its cars in part to reduce the monthly costs consumers have to pay due to higher interest rates. As a result, Tesla’s group operating margins have declined from 16% at the end of 2022 to 9.6% in Q223. Tesla signaled it will continue to lower prices to offset the “price increase” from higher rates.Interest rates are taking a bite out of AppleWe had previously written about Apple (NASDAQ:AAPL) with a Hold rating in January this year and the solace in the near term is that the stock benefits from China's reopening trade. \"The divergence between Apple Inc. and the Dow Jones Industrial Average Index is alarming. More times than not, when important stocks/markets start moving in opposite directions, it's a warning sign that one market needs to catch up with the other.\"We do not believe Apple is immune to the interest rate dynamics, considering their exposure to the consumer. We remain concerned over the adverse impact higher interest rates will have on demand for its iPhone, iPads and MacBooks in the US. In Apple’s most recent Q3FY23 call, they stated the following:The majority of iPhones, at this point, are sold using some kind of a program, trade-ins, installments, some kind of financing. And that percentage, which again, it's well over 50%, is very similar across developed and emerging markets.”In its recent Q3FY23 earnings release, the Americas region which is primarily the US market declined by 6% while ROW showed moderate declines over the most recent 9 months. China and Emerging Markets have been a relative bright spot although the stronger USD continues to be a headwind. On the product side, iPhone sales were down 4% and Mac sales down 24%. Services are an important segment that has been growing, which has helped both from a sales and margin perspective.Tech Insider NetworkThis is how Apple described the US market.… the Americas is still declining somewhat year-over-year, as you can see on the data sheet. The primary reason for that is that it's a challenging smartphone market in the U.S. currently.”The uncertain macro, cell phone penetration maturation, and people holding off on upgrading to a new phone are all likely contributing factors to the current challenges in the US market. Meanwhile, the average price of an iPhone is approaching $1,000. We believe that given that over 50% of iPhones (likely higher in the US) are purchased through financing, higher interest rates are having an impact much like we’ve seen across other consumer discretionary segments.Another factor we’re monitoring is the promotional activity by the major US carriers - ATT, Verizon and T-Mobile - who have become more focused on cashflow. Historically, this has been a very large market for iPhones. For example, the carriers may have promotional programs to help consumers upgrade by giving a cash rebate if they bring in their old phone.For example, in its recent Q223 earnings call, Verizon statedAdditionally, we expect less pressure from the amortization and promotional cost in the second half of the year, given the softer upgrade environment and our disciplined approach to promotional spending.”Apple provided guidance for the September quarter.We expect our September quarter year-over-year revenue performance to be similar to the June quarter, assuming that the macroeconomic outlook doesn't worsen from what we are projecting today for the current quarter […]“We expect iPhone and Services year-over-year performance to accelerate from the June quarter. Also, we expect the revenue for both Mac and iPad to decline by double digits year-over-year due to difficult compares, particularly on the Mac.”Given the factors described, we do not anticipate significant earnings growth for Apple for the remaining 2023 calendar year and we remain on the sidelines. While Apple’s US market share has increased, overall US Smartphone shipments continue to decline according to Counterpoint Research.Counterpoint ResearchOur fundamental view has been supported by our technical viewWe were warning our members about Apple going into its recent earnings. From a technical perspective, Apple’s long-term chart was at a significant resistance level. If we place a Gann Fan at the 2003 low, which is just a sequence of significant angles that stock prices tend to respect, the red 1x1 line is the most important angle to monitor.This angle is a true 45-degree angle, at which, big reactions tend to happen. Note the last time that Apple’s price touched this angle from the 2003 low. It marked the 2022 top. Interestingly, AAPL was testing this angle again going into earnings.Tech Insider NetworkFurther warning could be seen in AAPL’s forward valuations. Going into earnings, not only was Apple’s price at a significant angle, as shown above, but its forward Price to Sales was trading above the 2022 high.YchartsIt’s Do or Die for Apple StockApple is the largest stock in both the NASDAQ and in the S&P 500. The direction it goes, so goes the market. For this reason, we put an outsized amount of analysis into this stock. We are not surprised by the market’s reaction to AAPL’s earnings. Now we’ll address the most important question – is this the start of a significant top, or is it a pitstop on its way to fresh highs?In the below chart, I have two general counts that we are tracking based on the current price information:Blue – This count suggests that we are ending a large rally in an ongoing bear market. Some would call this a cyclical bull market in a secular bear market. Regardless, the structure of the next leg lower would have to be a 5-wave pattern, and ultimately break below the $154 critical support. If this happens, we will retest the January lows, at minimum.Red – This count suggests that we are in a correction within a larger uptrend, which would ultimately take us to new highs. The key indicator of this scenario playing out would be a 3-wave drop that holds the $154 level. If this happens, Apple, and the market, would be providing an excellent buying opportunity.Tech Insider NetworkAlso worth pointing out, note the gap down on heavy volume. Gaps are important markers in a trend. More times than not, they tend to start counter moves, which is why this needs to be watched so closely. Reclaiming this gap will be challenging, and supports the blue count while it remains open.Now, if we zoom into the structure of this drop, it is very clear that we have a 5-wave pattern pointing down from the high. This is concerning. The next criteria will be a break below $154 to confirm a larger top is in. Both scenarios suggest a bounce soon, and then lower levels. So, the time to risk-manage will be on this next bounce.However, Apple giving us a 5-wave drop from the recent high is a big warning to the bulls. From a risk management perspective, we believe the evidence is high enough to plan around the Blue count. If we are wrong, we will know at lower levels, and have ample time to reverse for the next swing to new highs. But, for now, we prefer to play it safe based on what the technical and Apple’s management are telling us.Tech Insider NetworkWhat's nextIn conclusion, it takes time for rate hikes to filter into the economy. Some businesses feel the effects sooner, like manufacturing; however, if a business has heavy exposure to the consumer, they tend to be more sensitive to economic slowdowns. We saw this with Enphase, then Tesla, and now Apple is forecasting a continued slowdown in their core business, while the technical are providing warning signs of a potential significant trend change. We are due for a bounce, but the odds favor lower levels after.The Tech Insider Network Analyst Team contributed to this article.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":257,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":206532983505024,"gmtCreate":1691454808622,"gmtModify":1691454811768,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/PLTR\">$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$&nbsp;</a> This is definitely along term 'keep'. My avg had been ard 9ish/share...I did sell off half of my holdings ard 18, the other half is now 'free of cost'....will keep it for long term. Shall continue to 'add on' during dips.","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/PLTR\">$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$&nbsp;</a> This is definitely along term 'keep'. My avg had been ard 9ish/share...I did sell off half of my holdings ard 18, the other half is now 'free of cost'....will keep it for long term. Shall continue to 'add on' during dips.","text":"$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$ This is definitely along term 'keep'. My avg had been ard 9ish/share...I did sell off half of my holdings ard 18, the other half is now 'free of cost'....will keep it for long term. Shall continue to 'add on' during dips.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/206532983505024","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":296,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":204069954629776,"gmtCreate":1690858641427,"gmtModify":1690858644218,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/09988\">$Alibaba(09988)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"1\"></v-v>100 posing to be a tough resistance....","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/09988\">$Alibaba(09988)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"1\"></v-v>100 posing to be a tough resistance....","text":"$Alibaba(09988)$ 100 posing to be a tough resistance....","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/204069954629776","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":430,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":201720260976720,"gmtCreate":1690256735131,"gmtModify":1690271390216,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/09988\">$Alibaba(09988)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"1\"></v-v> Atleast now it's above my avg of hkd 89. 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Stop loss placed at 93 for half of the holdings....just to be on d safe side.🤞✌️ Other half is for long term...","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/201720260976720","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":349,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":760376963891376,"gmtCreate":1687416170041,"gmtModify":1687416174039,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"The new CEO is Jack Ma's close colleague, somehow it seems that Jack Ma, although retired...is getting involved in the restructuring planning. ✌️👍","listText":"The new CEO is Jack Ma's close colleague, somehow it seems that Jack Ma, although retired...is getting involved in the restructuring planning. ✌️👍","text":"The new CEO is Jack Ma's close colleague, somehow it seems that Jack Ma, although retired...is getting involved in the restructuring planning. ✌️👍","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/760376963891376","repostId":"1192212512","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1192212512","pubTimestamp":1687412700,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1192212512?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-06-22 13:45","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Alibaba CEO Steps Down; Buy the Dip in the Stock?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1192212512","media":"The Street","summary":"Alibaba Chairman and CEO Daniel Zhang will step down from his role and serve as CEO of the company's","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Alibaba Chairman and CEO Daniel Zhang will step down from his role and serve as CEO of the company&#39;s upcoming spinoff. Here&#39;s the trade.</p><p>Alibaba shares were in focus on Tuesday after Chairman and CEO Daniel Zhang said he would step down from his role.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Zhang is stepping down to focus on the group&#39;s cloud division. TheStreet&#39;s Martin Baccardax reported that earlier this year, Alibaba unveiled plans to split each of its divisions into a separate company, with plans to pursue individual IPOs &#34;when they are ready.&#34;</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Alibaba stock, which finished off 0.1% on Friday after hitting its highest level since April 19, fell 4.5% on Tuesday. On Wednesday, the stock was off 1.3%, setting a three-day losing streak.</p><p>Some investors argue that the stock is being unfairly punished amid “positive change at the top.”</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">While Alibaba has become a dominant force in e-commerce — with many calling it the Amazon of China — U.S. investors have not treated it as such.</p><p>Not helping sentiment is that the company has sparred with the Chinese government and that Chinese companies listed on U.S. exchanges have faced delisting risk.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Still, one could make a good argument for Zhang leading Alibaba&#39;s soon-to-be-spun-off cloud division. Amazon’s cloud unit — AWS — is a major contributor to its top- and bottom-line results.</p><h2 style=\"text-align: start;\">Trading Alibaba Stock</h2><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8eb8968517c595bb78f8dc4945f0fcad\" title=\"Daily chart of Alibaba stock.\" tg-width=\"1200\" tg-height=\"949\"/><span>Daily chart of Alibaba stock.</span></p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Alibaba stock consolidated nicely in early June, then saw a four-day rally that sent it to multimonth highs.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">The rally also put the stock in a monthly-up rotation by clearing the May high near $91.50. Lastly, that rally put Alibaba above all its major daily moving averages and most of its key weekly moving averages.</p><p>Just a few days later, Alibaba has traded back below the May high while dipping below the 10-day, 200-day, 10-week, 21-week and 50-week moving averages.</p><p style=\"text-align: start;\">Basically, the $87 to $90 zone contains a number of key moving averages. 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Here's the trade.Alibaba shares were in focus on Tuesday after Chairman and CEO ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.thestreet.com/investing/stocks/alibaba-ceo-steps-down-buy-the-dip-in-the-stock-technical-analysis\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"89988":"阿里巴巴-WR","09988":"阿里巴巴-W","BABA":"阿里巴巴"},"source_url":"https://www.thestreet.com/investing/stocks/alibaba-ceo-steps-down-buy-the-dip-in-the-stock-technical-analysis","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1192212512","content_text":"Alibaba Chairman and CEO Daniel Zhang will step down from his role and serve as CEO of the company's upcoming spinoff. Here's the trade.Alibaba shares were in focus on Tuesday after Chairman and CEO Daniel Zhang said he would step down from his role.Zhang is stepping down to focus on the group's cloud division. TheStreet's Martin Baccardax reported that earlier this year, Alibaba unveiled plans to split each of its divisions into a separate company, with plans to pursue individual IPOs \"when they are ready.\"Alibaba stock, which finished off 0.1% on Friday after hitting its highest level since April 19, fell 4.5% on Tuesday. On Wednesday, the stock was off 1.3%, setting a three-day losing streak.Some investors argue that the stock is being unfairly punished amid “positive change at the top.”While Alibaba has become a dominant force in e-commerce — with many calling it the Amazon of China — U.S. investors have not treated it as such.Not helping sentiment is that the company has sparred with the Chinese government and that Chinese companies listed on U.S. exchanges have faced delisting risk.Still, one could make a good argument for Zhang leading Alibaba's soon-to-be-spun-off cloud division. Amazon’s cloud unit — AWS — is a major contributor to its top- and bottom-line results.Trading Alibaba StockDaily chart of Alibaba stock.Alibaba stock consolidated nicely in early June, then saw a four-day rally that sent it to multimonth highs.The rally also put the stock in a monthly-up rotation by clearing the May high near $91.50. Lastly, that rally put Alibaba above all its major daily moving averages and most of its key weekly moving averages.Just a few days later, Alibaba has traded back below the May high while dipping below the 10-day, 200-day, 10-week, 21-week and 50-week moving averages.Basically, the $87 to $90 zone contains a number of key moving averages. If the stock breaks below this level and fails to regain it, that's a significant blow to the bulls.If the shares can’t regain this area, then $85 is in play, which was recent support and currently marks the 21-day moving average. Failure to hold this level could open the door all the way down to the $78 to $80 area.On the upside, the bulls want to see Alibaba stock regain $90 (and thus all its daily moving averages) and ideally regain last month’s high at $91.43.Above the recent high of $94.29 and the shares could push to the $99 to $100 area.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":270,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":185453847646336,"gmtCreate":1686316100799,"gmtModify":1686316104408,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"That's how the market works...[Happy]&nbsp;","listText":"That's how the market works...[Happy]&nbsp;","text":"That's how the market works...[Happy]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":8,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/185453847646336","repostId":"2341138823","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2341138823","pubTimestamp":1686298220,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2341138823?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-06-09 16:10","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: Perhaps An AI Stock That Isn't Overpriced","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2341138823","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"Marco Bello Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR) is a big data analytics company that has been a recent beneficiary of the artificial intelligence, or AI, wave. From the start of May, the company's ","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2 style=\"text-align: left;\">Summary</h2><ul><li><p>The Palantir Technologies Inc. share price has more than doubled since the start of May, a strong result for those who invested with our prior recommendations.</p></li><li><p>Palantir has an impressive AI portfolio with new customers at its door and a proven ability to get large contracts.</p></li><li><p>Going forward, we expect Palantir to be able to start generating substantial cash flow and valuable shareholder returns.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7179834782ae9cbd6b827415fd0eb210\" alt=\"Marco Bello\" title=\"Marco Bello\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/><span>Marco Bello</span></p><p><strong><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PLTR\">Palantir Technologies Inc.</a></strong> (NYSE:PLTR) is a big data analytics company that has been a recent beneficiary of the artificial intelligence, or AI, wave. From the start of May, the company&#39;s share price has more than doubled, making it one of the largest beneficiaries as its market cap has soared past $30 billion. As we&#39;ll see throughout this article, Palantir is still undervalued with an ability to continue performing.</p><h2>Palantir 1Q 23 Highlights</h2><p>Palantir had a strong quarter, with the second consecutive quarter of GAAP net income profitability.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b2a1923c501ae7b174a0cead22050af7\" alt=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" title=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"242\"/><span>Palantir Investor Presentation</span></p><p>The company&#39;s adjusted operating margin of 24% remains incredibly strong, and the company&#39;s free cash flow (&#34;FCF&#34; has a 36% margin. With 18% year-over-year revenue growth (23% in the U.S. and 26% commercially), the company has a strong path to continue both revenue and FCF growth. That conversion pipeline is huge for future cash flow.</p><p>The company managed to grow U.S. commercial revenue 39% QoQ with its customer count growing 50% YoY. The company&#39;s strong focus on enterprise customers positions it incredibly well as these enterprises look to take advantage of AI. We expect the company to continue new customer acquisition and contract sizes from existing customers.</p><h2>Palantir Positioning</h2><p>Palantir is incredibly well positioned to bring its AI platform to the corporate masses.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2cf5d333fc9d0bdf26a27e46ed02ea89\" alt=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" title=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"313\"/><span>Palantir Investor Presentation</span></p><p>The strength of the company&#39;s portfolio is evident through, for example, the recent announcement that it bagged a $463 million contract with U.S. Special Forces for AI. Palantir is one of the strongest companies in the AI space, especially when looking at directly selling AI to customers. Its leadership will enable it to dominate as new companies move to the space.</p><p>The company&#39;s positioning is part of the reason why its share price has outperformed over the last month, but we don&#39;t see that as the end of things.</p><h2>Palantir Financial Results</h2><p>The company&#39;s financial results have been incredibly strong.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/65aac1ddea840ec12aae7b3b0a9f14f5\" alt=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" title=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"280\"/><span>Palantir Investor Presentation</span></p><p>The company signed 64 deals during the last quarter, and it&#39;s shown an increased ability to get large scale deals. The company has closed almost $400 million in new contracts, a 60% improvement YoY, foretelling strong potential revenue growth for the company versus prior growth rates. We see that as only having accelerated into the most recent quarter.</p><p>Palantir&#39;s scale is also evident through deal sizes, with 22 deals at least $5 million and 8 at least $10 million. The company has a proven ability as well to ramp up the size of prior deals as well as get new deals, so the large starting size here is exciting to see.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/79b0659463da26c607587e6040131f59\" alt=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" title=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"334\"/><span>Palantir Investor Presentation</span></p><p>The company also managed to achieve GAAP profitability for the first time in its history, although at a low level. It&#39;s a strong turnaround from 2022 when the company had -$160 million in GAAP income for the year. We expect the company to have positive GAAP income for the year, which combined with a strong cash position will enable shareholder returns.</p><h2>Palantir Revenue / Margin Growth</h2><p>The company is focused on growing both revenues and margins.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5e983c726c7f3d400e2ecd9ef31b62dc\" alt=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" title=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"234\"/><span>Palantir Investor Presentation</span></p><p>For Q2, 2023, Palantir expects $530 million in revenue, roughly the same as Q1. However, the company&#39;s FY 2023 target is $2.21 billion, meaning a strong growth to revenue in the second half of the year. The company&#39;s adjusted income from operations target is $530 million, which we expect to be primarily FCF.</p><p>That represents a ~2% FCF yield for the company and shows its financial strength. The company had 81% margins in the most recent quarter, a slight YoY increase from 80%. Those incredibly high adjusted gross margins will enable continued FCF strength and given the company&#39;s high fixed costs we expect revenue growth to lead to more increase.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/89ae97df08823e34ff8a232dbb0015bc\" alt=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" title=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"295\"/><span>Palantir Investor Presentation</span></p><p>Palantir&#39;s strength is shown less through its revenue growth and more so in the graph for the right. For the first time, the company&#39;s top 20 customers have crossed $1 billion in annual revenue. For these companies, Palantir has become an integral part in how they function.</p><p>The company&#39;s ability to acquire new customers and grow relationships with existing customers is a double whammy that will lead to long-term sustainable growth.</p><h2>Thesis Risk</h2><p>The largest risk to our thesis is Palantir&#39;s ability to continue growing cash flow to justify its valuation. On paper, it looks great, but the company has $750 million in annualized cash flow, which is a FCF yield of 2.5%. That&#39;s an atrocious long-term valuation and shows that the company has growth ahead to justify its current valuation.</p><p>Not achieving that growth would make the company a poor investment.</p><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Subtracting the cash, Palantir has a roughly $27 billion valuation, a substantial increase over the $12 billion non-cash valuation a month ago. Despite that, we still see the company as one of the unique opportunities in the AI market. Palantir is not only rapidly and sustainably growing revenue from existing customers, it&#39;s picking up numerous additional customers.</p><p>At a 2% FCF yield with a double-digit growth rate, Palantir Technologies Inc. has the ability to continue growing. It has no debt and a strong net cash position which means profits can be rapidly directed to shareholders. Putting all of this together, Palantir is a valuable long-term investment that can drive substantial returns.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: Perhaps An AI Stock That Isn't Overpriced</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nPalantir: Perhaps An AI Stock That Isn't Overpriced\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-06-09 16:10 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4610058-palantir-perhaps-an-ai-stock-that-isnt-overpriced><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryThe Palantir Technologies Inc. share price has more than doubled since the start of May, a strong result for those who invested with our prior recommendations.Palantir has an impressive AI ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4610058-palantir-perhaps-an-ai-stock-that-isnt-overpriced\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4543":"AI","PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc.","BK4547":"WSB热门概念","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","BK4588":"碎股","BK4023":"应用软件"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4610058-palantir-perhaps-an-ai-stock-that-isnt-overpriced","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"2341138823","content_text":"SummaryThe Palantir Technologies Inc. share price has more than doubled since the start of May, a strong result for those who invested with our prior recommendations.Palantir has an impressive AI portfolio with new customers at its door and a proven ability to get large contracts.Going forward, we expect Palantir to be able to start generating substantial cash flow and valuable shareholder returns.Marco BelloPalantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE:PLTR) is a big data analytics company that has been a recent beneficiary of the artificial intelligence, or AI, wave. From the start of May, the company's share price has more than doubled, making it one of the largest beneficiaries as its market cap has soared past $30 billion. As we'll see throughout this article, Palantir is still undervalued with an ability to continue performing.Palantir 1Q 23 HighlightsPalantir had a strong quarter, with the second consecutive quarter of GAAP net income profitability.Palantir Investor PresentationThe company's adjusted operating margin of 24% remains incredibly strong, and the company's free cash flow (\"FCF\" has a 36% margin. With 18% year-over-year revenue growth (23% in the U.S. and 26% commercially), the company has a strong path to continue both revenue and FCF growth. That conversion pipeline is huge for future cash flow.The company managed to grow U.S. commercial revenue 39% QoQ with its customer count growing 50% YoY. The company's strong focus on enterprise customers positions it incredibly well as these enterprises look to take advantage of AI. We expect the company to continue new customer acquisition and contract sizes from existing customers.Palantir PositioningPalantir is incredibly well positioned to bring its AI platform to the corporate masses.Palantir Investor PresentationThe strength of the company's portfolio is evident through, for example, the recent announcement that it bagged a $463 million contract with U.S. Special Forces for AI. Palantir is one of the strongest companies in the AI space, especially when looking at directly selling AI to customers. Its leadership will enable it to dominate as new companies move to the space.The company's positioning is part of the reason why its share price has outperformed over the last month, but we don't see that as the end of things.Palantir Financial ResultsThe company's financial results have been incredibly strong.Palantir Investor PresentationThe company signed 64 deals during the last quarter, and it's shown an increased ability to get large scale deals. The company has closed almost $400 million in new contracts, a 60% improvement YoY, foretelling strong potential revenue growth for the company versus prior growth rates. We see that as only having accelerated into the most recent quarter.Palantir's scale is also evident through deal sizes, with 22 deals at least $5 million and 8 at least $10 million. The company has a proven ability as well to ramp up the size of prior deals as well as get new deals, so the large starting size here is exciting to see.Palantir Investor PresentationThe company also managed to achieve GAAP profitability for the first time in its history, although at a low level. It's a strong turnaround from 2022 when the company had -$160 million in GAAP income for the year. We expect the company to have positive GAAP income for the year, which combined with a strong cash position will enable shareholder returns.Palantir Revenue / Margin GrowthThe company is focused on growing both revenues and margins.Palantir Investor PresentationFor Q2, 2023, Palantir expects $530 million in revenue, roughly the same as Q1. However, the company's FY 2023 target is $2.21 billion, meaning a strong growth to revenue in the second half of the year. The company's adjusted income from operations target is $530 million, which we expect to be primarily FCF.That represents a ~2% FCF yield for the company and shows its financial strength. The company had 81% margins in the most recent quarter, a slight YoY increase from 80%. Those incredibly high adjusted gross margins will enable continued FCF strength and given the company's high fixed costs we expect revenue growth to lead to more increase.Palantir Investor PresentationPalantir's strength is shown less through its revenue growth and more so in the graph for the right. For the first time, the company's top 20 customers have crossed $1 billion in annual revenue. For these companies, Palantir has become an integral part in how they function.The company's ability to acquire new customers and grow relationships with existing customers is a double whammy that will lead to long-term sustainable growth.Thesis RiskThe largest risk to our thesis is Palantir's ability to continue growing cash flow to justify its valuation. On paper, it looks great, but the company has $750 million in annualized cash flow, which is a FCF yield of 2.5%. That's an atrocious long-term valuation and shows that the company has growth ahead to justify its current valuation.Not achieving that growth would make the company a poor investment.ConclusionSubtracting the cash, Palantir has a roughly $27 billion valuation, a substantial increase over the $12 billion non-cash valuation a month ago. Despite that, we still see the company as one of the unique opportunities in the AI market. Palantir is not only rapidly and sustainably growing revenue from existing customers, it's picking up numerous additional customers.At a 2% FCF yield with a double-digit growth rate, Palantir Technologies Inc. has the ability to continue growing. It has no debt and a strong net cash position which means profits can be rapidly directed to shareholders. 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Adjusted EPS loss of $(0.36) beat the consensus loss of $(0.41).</p>\n<p>NIO held $5.5 billion in cash and equivalents as of March 31, 2023.</p>\n<p>\"NIO delivered 31,041 vehicles in the first quarter of 2023, ranking first in the premium battery electric vehicle market priced over RMB400,000 in China for 12 consecutive quarters,\" said William Bin Li, founder, chairman, and chief executive officer of NIO.</p>\n<p><strong>Outlook</strong>: NIO sees Q2 vehicle deliveries of 23,000 – 25,000, down by 8.2% - 0.2% Y/Y.</p>\n<p>The company expects Q2 revenue of RMB8.74 billion ($1.27 billion) and RMB9.37 billion ($1.36 billion), down by 15.1% - 9.0% Y/Y.</p>\n<p><strong>Price Action:</strong> NIO shares are trading lower by 3.59% at $7.51 in premarket on the last check Friday.</p>\n</body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>NIO Stock Falls After Q1 Earnings - Here's Why</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nNIO Stock Falls After Q1 Earnings - Here's Why\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/d08bf7808052c0ca9deb4e944cae32aa);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Benzinga </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2023-06-09 18:40</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><body><p><strong>NIO Inc</strong> (NYSE:NIO) reported first-quarter FY23 sales growth of 7.7% year-on-year to RMB10.7 billion ($1.56 billion), missing the consensus of $1.63 billion.</p>\n<p>Q1 vehicle deliveries increased 20.5% Y/Y to 31,041 units, down Q/Q by 22.5%. </p>\n<p>Vehicle sales declined by 0.2% Y/Y to RMB9.22 billion ($1.34 billion), and the vehicle margin contracted 1,300 basis points to 5.1% due to changes in product mix and increased battery cost per unit.</p>\n<p>Gross profit for the quarter decreased 88.8% to RMB162.3 million ($23.6 million), and the gross margin contracted by 1,310 basis points to 1.5% due to the reduced vehicle margin.</p>\n<p>Loss from operations widened to RMB(5.11) billion or $(744.3) million. Adjusted EPS loss of $(0.36) beat the consensus loss of $(0.41).</p>\n<p>NIO held $5.5 billion in cash and equivalents as of March 31, 2023.</p>\n<p>\"NIO delivered 31,041 vehicles in the first quarter of 2023, ranking first in the premium battery electric vehicle market priced over RMB400,000 in China for 12 consecutive quarters,\" said William Bin Li, founder, chairman, and chief executive officer of NIO.</p>\n<p><strong>Outlook</strong>: NIO sees Q2 vehicle deliveries of 23,000 – 25,000, down by 8.2% - 0.2% Y/Y.</p>\n<p>The company expects Q2 revenue of RMB8.74 billion ($1.27 billion) and RMB9.37 billion ($1.36 billion), down by 15.1% - 9.0% Y/Y.</p>\n<p><strong>Price Action:</strong> NIO shares are trading lower by 3.59% at $7.51 in premarket on the last check Friday.</p>\n</body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"NIO":"蔚来"},"source_url":"https://www.benzinga.com/news/earnings/23/06/32792373/nio-stock-falls-after-q1-earnings-heres-why","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2342056163","content_text":"NIO Inc (NYSE:NIO) reported first-quarter FY23 sales growth of 7.7% year-on-year to RMB10.7 billion ($1.56 billion), missing the consensus of $1.63 billion.\nQ1 vehicle deliveries increased 20.5% Y/Y to 31,041 units, down Q/Q by 22.5%. \nVehicle sales declined by 0.2% Y/Y to RMB9.22 billion ($1.34 billion), and the vehicle margin contracted 1,300 basis points to 5.1% due to changes in product mix and increased battery cost per unit.\nGross profit for the quarter decreased 88.8% to RMB162.3 million ($23.6 million), and the gross margin contracted by 1,310 basis points to 1.5% due to the reduced vehicle margin.\nLoss from operations widened to RMB(5.11) billion or $(744.3) million. Adjusted EPS loss of $(0.36) beat the consensus loss of $(0.41).\nNIO held $5.5 billion in cash and equivalents as of March 31, 2023.\n\"NIO delivered 31,041 vehicles in the first quarter of 2023, ranking first in the premium battery electric vehicle market priced over RMB400,000 in China for 12 consecutive quarters,\" said William Bin Li, founder, chairman, and chief executive officer of NIO.\nOutlook: NIO sees Q2 vehicle deliveries of 23,000 – 25,000, down by 8.2% - 0.2% Y/Y.\nThe company expects Q2 revenue of RMB8.74 billion ($1.27 billion) and RMB9.37 billion ($1.36 billion), down by 15.1% - 9.0% Y/Y.\nPrice Action: NIO shares are trading lower by 3.59% at $7.51 in premarket on the last check Friday.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":146,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":184700192100512,"gmtCreate":1686117207695,"gmtModify":1686117211537,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Trio local banks are&nbsp;Good for dividend play....","listText":"Trio local banks are&nbsp;Good for dividend play....","text":"Trio local banks are Good for dividend play....","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/184700192100512","repostId":"2341816761","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":161,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":184695535054880,"gmtCreate":1686116061783,"gmtModify":1686116186240,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Have been buying at dips, my avg is around HKD&nbsp;83/share. Will keep it for long...","listText":"Have been buying at dips, my avg is around HKD&nbsp;83/share. Will keep it for long...","text":"Have been buying at dips, my avg is around HKD 83/share. Will keep it for long...","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/184695535054880","repostId":"2341381639","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":273,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":184692236931248,"gmtCreate":1686115266668,"gmtModify":1686115270675,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"It definitely has potential, no harm keeping a small stake in this company.&nbsp; My entry was around $7+, share price&nbsp;has since doubled, sold half of the holdings, re-couped the initial investment. Thus the other half is now FOC, will keep monitoring and shall buy on dips.","listText":"It definitely has potential, no harm keeping a small stake in this company.&nbsp; My entry was around $7+, share price&nbsp;has since doubled, sold half of the holdings, re-couped the initial investment. Thus the other half is now FOC, will keep monitoring and shall buy on dips.","text":"It definitely has potential, no harm keeping a small stake in this company. My entry was around $7+, share price has since doubled, sold half of the holdings, re-couped the initial investment. Thus the other half is now FOC, will keep monitoring and shall buy on dips.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/184692236931248","repostId":"2341036895","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2341036895","pubTimestamp":1686108473,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2341036895?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-06-07 11:27","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Is Palantir Stock Too Hot To Handle? A Look At The Software Company's Stumbling Blocks","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2341036895","media":"Seekingalpha","summary":"SummaryGiven the hurdles Palantir encounters, including heightened stock valuations, scalability hur","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2 style=\"text-align: left;\">Summary</h2><ul><li><p>Given the hurdles Palantir encounters, including heightened stock valuations, scalability hurdles, and a partially unproven value delivery, I find myself leaning towards a &#34;Sell&#34; rating at the current price.</p></li><li><p>Despite its presence in the growing data analytics sector, the tangible value of Palantir&#39;s offerings remains uncertain, as reflected in the company&#39;s Q1 revenue slowdown.</p></li><li><p>Palantir&#39;s struggles with customer acquisition and slow revenue growth raise concerns about its ability to scale and compete in growingly competitive space.</p></li></ul><p>Following a recent sharp uptick in its stock price, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PLTR\">Palantir Technologies</a>, a leading American software firm specializing in big data analytics, has become a hot topic among investors. This surge in attention and investor interest has resulted in a significant spike in the firm&#39;s share price. However, beneath the dazzling headlines and attractive figures, the company appears to be grappling with inherent challenges within its business model. My analysis uncovers certain uncomfortable truths about Palantir&#39;s current status and future potential, suggesting that investor exuberance might be premature. On account of these findings, I am issuing a &#34;Sell&#34; rating on Palantir&#39;s stock.</p><p>Here are key highlights that we believe warrant investor attention:</p><ul><li><p><strong>Stock Overvaluation</strong>: The recent uptick in Palantir&#39;s stock price has raised eyebrows, with the stock currently trading at approximately 16x its trailing twelve months revenue. This compares to a median multiple of 3.3x in the software industry. Although the company&#39;s expected growth rate is above-average, there is a concern that the current price levels might not be sustainable and could indicate overvaluation.</p></li><li><p><strong>Scalability Concerns</strong>: Since its inception, Palantir&#39;s growth has shown considerable volatility, largely due to its difficulty in rapidly acquiring new customers and expanding contracts with existing ones. Its Q1 2023 figures show an addition of only 24 net new paying customers, reflecting a constant decline of growth that is less than ideal.</p></li><li><p><strong>Unproven Value Proposition</strong>: Palantir operates in the fast-growing data analytics space, providing its clients with solutions to make data actionable. However, the real value of Palantir&#39;s offerings to its clients remains somewhat unproven as does the churn of earlier cohorts indicates.</p></li><li><p><strong>Financial Health Concerns</strong>: Palantir&#39;s Q1 results also revealed concerning revenue trends. The company&#39;s revenue growth slowed to 18% YoY, and its commercial revenue, once promised to be the catalyst justifying the high valuation sits even lower around 15%.</p></li></ul><p>With these findings in mind, I recommend a cautious approach toward Palantir&#39;s stock. Despite the positive market sentiment and the lure of Palantir&#39;s future potential, the risks associated with its current challenges and overvaluation appear to outweigh the potential benefits.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8214d77d7e529ac2c81aa310da073798\" alt=\"Palantir Government vs Commercial Revenue Growth (Palantir Q1 2023 Investor Presentation)\" title=\"Palantir Government vs Commercial Revenue Growth (Palantir Q1 2023 Investor Presentation)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"304\"/><span>Palantir Government vs Commercial Revenue Growth (Palantir Q1 2023 Investor Presentation)</span></p><h2>The Stock Surge: Beyond the Euphoria</h2><p>In recent months, Palantir&#39;s stock has seen a meteoric rise, largely buoyed by the anticipation and the prevailing euphoria around the company&#39;s artificial intelligence platform. Palantir&#39;s unique prowess in merging AI with data analytics to deliver solutions with unprecedented predictive power holds substantial transformative potential. This innovation is steering a new course in the field of data analysis, providing a compelling prospect for growth.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ab00807f68f4121fba70363ad8fb2c6b\" alt=\"Palantir AI Features (Palantir Website)\" title=\"Palantir AI Features (Palantir Website)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"306\"/><span>Palantir AI Features (Palantir Website)</span></p><p>However, the question remains as to whether the recent surge in Palantir&#39;s stock price accurately represents the intrinsic value of its AI capabilities. The stock has ascended rapidly in the last three months, but one must consider whether this increase, while justifiable on some fronts, may be an overextension. It&#39;s crucial to distinguish between the inherent potential of the company&#39;s AI platform and the actual, quantifiable impact it has had on Palantir&#39;s earnings to date. Market excitement around new technologies can sometimes outpace the reality of their implementation, and investors must be wary of this dynamic as it pertains to Palantir. The prudent course of action calls for a thorough, nuanced assessment of the company&#39;s fundamentals, as opposed to a singular focus on the potential of its AI platform.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a040ab05b89608dcee265cc5aa0cb38c\" alt=\"Data by YCharts\" title=\"Data by YCharts\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\"/><span>Data by YCharts</span></p><h2>Deciphering Palantir&#39;s Scalability Challenges</h2><p>Critical to understanding Palantir&#39;s trajectory is the thorough dissection of its scalability struggles. The company&#39;s growth pattern is marred by notable volatility, chiefly originating from its struggles to rapidly expand its customer base and to effectively enhance its existing contracts. This issue is far from being a fleeting concern; it represents a deep-seated obstacle that the company has yet to adequately address.</p><p>In the first quarter of 2023, this issue was brought into stark relief. Palantir only managed to onboard a modest count of 24 new paying customers, indicating a continual deceleration in growth. This disappointing addition to its customer roster casts a long shadow over the company&#39;s performance and future prospects. The situation is compounded by the fact that long-term growth in Palantir&#39;s business model is predicated heavily on scalable operations.</p><p>As a consequence, this erratic customer acquisition trend, in conjunction with an uninspiring contract expansion strategy, amplifies the alarm bells for potential investors. This growing concern serves as a cautionary tale, underscoring the necessity for circumspection when assessing Palantir&#39;s current investment potential. Thus, the path ahead for Palantir seems riddled with scalability challenges that demand urgent resolution.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e98b4748c991b88e433e81b93d131348\" alt=\"Palantir Q2 2023 Outlook (Palantir Q1 2023 Investor Presentation)\" title=\"Palantir Q2 2023 Outlook (Palantir Q1 2023 Investor Presentation)\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"301\"/><span>Palantir Q2 2023 Outlook (Palantir Q1 2023 Investor Presentation)</span></p><h2>The Value Conundrum: Unproven Benefit Amid Competitive Pressure</h2><p>Serving in the highly competitive and fast-paced data analytics realm, Palantir&#39;s mandate is to transform raw data into actionable insights for its clients. Innovation is at the heart of the company, yet a persisting conundrum leaves potential investors and clients bemused: how valuable is Palantir&#39;s technology, in real terms, to its customers?</p><p>Competitors such as <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SNOW\">Snowflake</a> (SNOW), Microsoft (MSFT), Alteryx (AYX), and Cognizant (CTSH) are also vying for a piece of the machine learning market, which Fortune Business Insights predicts to surge by 36.2% until 2030. Palantir has to do more than just compete; it must fully exploit this burgeoning opportunity to maintain its appeal to its customers and investors alike. Yet, discernible doubts cast a long shadow over Palantir&#39;s capability to scale up and transform its technological potential into substantial value for its clients.</p><p>The recent slowdown in Palantir&#39;s revenue growth during 2022 which continued in Q1 2023 raises a red flag. The subpar performance suggests that the company is grappling with challenges to effectively communicate and demonstrate the tangible benefits of its products to its customer base. Amidst mounting competition and rising market expectations, Palantir&#39;s ability to articulate and manifest its value proposition becomes ever more critical, and any shortfall in doing so could deal a severe blow to its market standing and growth trajectory.</p><h2>A Correction on the Horizon: Reversion to Fair Value</h2><p>Palantir&#39;s recent surge in stock price, largely fueled by optimism over its AI platform, could potentially be headed for a reality check. Two key factors could catalyze a shift back to more rational valuation levels:</p><ol><li><p><strong>Upcoming Financials:</strong> Palantir&#39;s financial performance for Q2, Q3, and Q4 of 2023 will be under intense scrutiny from both investors and analysts. Given the company&#39;s struggles with scalability and slow revenue growth, the possibility of subpar earnings results is looming. A failure to meet the high expectations currently baked into the stock price could trigger a significant market reassessment of Palantir&#39;s value.</p></li><li><p><strong>Market Realism:</strong> The financial markets have a historical tendency to gravitate towards rationality over the long term. This powerful force could correct any misalignment between Palantir&#39;s stock valuation and the company&#39;s fundamental performance. Considering Palantir&#39;s operational challenges, the stark gap between its current stock price and its intrinsic value may not be sustainable.</p></li></ol><p>In the face of these catalysts, a sober reevaluation of Palantir&#39;s prospects may be imminent. A reversion to fair value would bring much-needed balance between the company&#39;s current stock price and its underlying business realities.</p><h2>Playing Devil&#39;s Advocate: The Upside Risks for Palantir</h2><p>Despite the prevailing concerns, it&#39;s important to consider the potential upside risks that could spur Palantir&#39;s shares upwards. First, the vast market opportunity in the field of data analytics and AI could be underappreciated. If Palantir can prove its value proposition and unlock this potential, the narrative could change significantly. Second, if Palantir manages to resolve its scalability issue and add more clients rapidly, it could positively surprise the market, leading to an upward revision in the company&#39;s growth expectations. Lastly, any significant breakthroughs in the commercialization of their AI platforms could prove a game-changer, particularly if they lead to notable contract wins or enhanced revenue growth.</p><h2>Conclusion: Why Palantir Garners a &#39;Sell&#39; Rating</h2><p>In conclusion, Palantir&#39;s recent sharp surge in stock price and the fervor around its AI platform may make it an attractive proposition for momentum investors. However, the fundamentals tell a different story, one that is characterized by scalability concerns and unproven value proposition amidst stiff competition.</p><p>Given the upcoming financials, which are likely to underline these intrinsic weaknesses, along with the market&#39;s propensity to gravitate towards rationality, we foresee a potential correction. The gulf between the company&#39;s current valuation and its fundamental performance is too vast to ignore.</p><p>With the above factors in play, a &#39;Sell&#39; rating appears warranted. The current stock price does not seem to be a reflection of the underlying value of the business, thus calling for a reevaluation of its investment viability. As always, investors are advised to conduct their due diligence and invest in alignment with their risk tolerance and financial objectives.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Is Palantir Stock Too Hot To Handle? 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A Look At The Software Company's Stumbling Blocks\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-06-07 11:27 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4609727-palantir-stock-too-hot-to-handle-stumbling-blocks><strong>Seekingalpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryGiven the hurdles Palantir encounters, including heightened stock valuations, scalability hurdles, and a partially unproven value delivery, I find myself leaning towards a \"Sell\" rating at the ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4609727-palantir-stock-too-hot-to-handle-stumbling-blocks\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"PLTR":"Palantir Technologies Inc."},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4609727-palantir-stock-too-hot-to-handle-stumbling-blocks","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"2341036895","content_text":"SummaryGiven the hurdles Palantir encounters, including heightened stock valuations, scalability hurdles, and a partially unproven value delivery, I find myself leaning towards a \"Sell\" rating at the current price.Despite its presence in the growing data analytics sector, the tangible value of Palantir's offerings remains uncertain, as reflected in the company's Q1 revenue slowdown.Palantir's struggles with customer acquisition and slow revenue growth raise concerns about its ability to scale and compete in growingly competitive space.Following a recent sharp uptick in its stock price, Palantir Technologies, a leading American software firm specializing in big data analytics, has become a hot topic among investors. This surge in attention and investor interest has resulted in a significant spike in the firm's share price. However, beneath the dazzling headlines and attractive figures, the company appears to be grappling with inherent challenges within its business model. My analysis uncovers certain uncomfortable truths about Palantir's current status and future potential, suggesting that investor exuberance might be premature. On account of these findings, I am issuing a \"Sell\" rating on Palantir's stock.Here are key highlights that we believe warrant investor attention:Stock Overvaluation: The recent uptick in Palantir's stock price has raised eyebrows, with the stock currently trading at approximately 16x its trailing twelve months revenue. This compares to a median multiple of 3.3x in the software industry. Although the company's expected growth rate is above-average, there is a concern that the current price levels might not be sustainable and could indicate overvaluation.Scalability Concerns: Since its inception, Palantir's growth has shown considerable volatility, largely due to its difficulty in rapidly acquiring new customers and expanding contracts with existing ones. Its Q1 2023 figures show an addition of only 24 net new paying customers, reflecting a constant decline of growth that is less than ideal.Unproven Value Proposition: Palantir operates in the fast-growing data analytics space, providing its clients with solutions to make data actionable. However, the real value of Palantir's offerings to its clients remains somewhat unproven as does the churn of earlier cohorts indicates.Financial Health Concerns: Palantir's Q1 results also revealed concerning revenue trends. The company's revenue growth slowed to 18% YoY, and its commercial revenue, once promised to be the catalyst justifying the high valuation sits even lower around 15%.With these findings in mind, I recommend a cautious approach toward Palantir's stock. Despite the positive market sentiment and the lure of Palantir's future potential, the risks associated with its current challenges and overvaluation appear to outweigh the potential benefits.Palantir Government vs Commercial Revenue Growth (Palantir Q1 2023 Investor Presentation)The Stock Surge: Beyond the EuphoriaIn recent months, Palantir's stock has seen a meteoric rise, largely buoyed by the anticipation and the prevailing euphoria around the company's artificial intelligence platform. Palantir's unique prowess in merging AI with data analytics to deliver solutions with unprecedented predictive power holds substantial transformative potential. This innovation is steering a new course in the field of data analysis, providing a compelling prospect for growth.Palantir AI Features (Palantir Website)However, the question remains as to whether the recent surge in Palantir's stock price accurately represents the intrinsic value of its AI capabilities. The stock has ascended rapidly in the last three months, but one must consider whether this increase, while justifiable on some fronts, may be an overextension. It's crucial to distinguish between the inherent potential of the company's AI platform and the actual, quantifiable impact it has had on Palantir's earnings to date. Market excitement around new technologies can sometimes outpace the reality of their implementation, and investors must be wary of this dynamic as it pertains to Palantir. The prudent course of action calls for a thorough, nuanced assessment of the company's fundamentals, as opposed to a singular focus on the potential of its AI platform.Data by YChartsDeciphering Palantir's Scalability ChallengesCritical to understanding Palantir's trajectory is the thorough dissection of its scalability struggles. The company's growth pattern is marred by notable volatility, chiefly originating from its struggles to rapidly expand its customer base and to effectively enhance its existing contracts. This issue is far from being a fleeting concern; it represents a deep-seated obstacle that the company has yet to adequately address.In the first quarter of 2023, this issue was brought into stark relief. Palantir only managed to onboard a modest count of 24 new paying customers, indicating a continual deceleration in growth. This disappointing addition to its customer roster casts a long shadow over the company's performance and future prospects. The situation is compounded by the fact that long-term growth in Palantir's business model is predicated heavily on scalable operations.As a consequence, this erratic customer acquisition trend, in conjunction with an uninspiring contract expansion strategy, amplifies the alarm bells for potential investors. This growing concern serves as a cautionary tale, underscoring the necessity for circumspection when assessing Palantir's current investment potential. Thus, the path ahead for Palantir seems riddled with scalability challenges that demand urgent resolution.Palantir Q2 2023 Outlook (Palantir Q1 2023 Investor Presentation)The Value Conundrum: Unproven Benefit Amid Competitive PressureServing in the highly competitive and fast-paced data analytics realm, Palantir's mandate is to transform raw data into actionable insights for its clients. Innovation is at the heart of the company, yet a persisting conundrum leaves potential investors and clients bemused: how valuable is Palantir's technology, in real terms, to its customers?Competitors such as Snowflake (SNOW), Microsoft (MSFT), Alteryx (AYX), and Cognizant (CTSH) are also vying for a piece of the machine learning market, which Fortune Business Insights predicts to surge by 36.2% until 2030. Palantir has to do more than just compete; it must fully exploit this burgeoning opportunity to maintain its appeal to its customers and investors alike. Yet, discernible doubts cast a long shadow over Palantir's capability to scale up and transform its technological potential into substantial value for its clients.The recent slowdown in Palantir's revenue growth during 2022 which continued in Q1 2023 raises a red flag. The subpar performance suggests that the company is grappling with challenges to effectively communicate and demonstrate the tangible benefits of its products to its customer base. Amidst mounting competition and rising market expectations, Palantir's ability to articulate and manifest its value proposition becomes ever more critical, and any shortfall in doing so could deal a severe blow to its market standing and growth trajectory.A Correction on the Horizon: Reversion to Fair ValuePalantir's recent surge in stock price, largely fueled by optimism over its AI platform, could potentially be headed for a reality check. Two key factors could catalyze a shift back to more rational valuation levels:Upcoming Financials: Palantir's financial performance for Q2, Q3, and Q4 of 2023 will be under intense scrutiny from both investors and analysts. Given the company's struggles with scalability and slow revenue growth, the possibility of subpar earnings results is looming. A failure to meet the high expectations currently baked into the stock price could trigger a significant market reassessment of Palantir's value.Market Realism: The financial markets have a historical tendency to gravitate towards rationality over the long term. This powerful force could correct any misalignment between Palantir's stock valuation and the company's fundamental performance. Considering Palantir's operational challenges, the stark gap between its current stock price and its intrinsic value may not be sustainable.In the face of these catalysts, a sober reevaluation of Palantir's prospects may be imminent. A reversion to fair value would bring much-needed balance between the company's current stock price and its underlying business realities.Playing Devil's Advocate: The Upside Risks for PalantirDespite the prevailing concerns, it's important to consider the potential upside risks that could spur Palantir's shares upwards. First, the vast market opportunity in the field of data analytics and AI could be underappreciated. If Palantir can prove its value proposition and unlock this potential, the narrative could change significantly. Second, if Palantir manages to resolve its scalability issue and add more clients rapidly, it could positively surprise the market, leading to an upward revision in the company's growth expectations. Lastly, any significant breakthroughs in the commercialization of their AI platforms could prove a game-changer, particularly if they lead to notable contract wins or enhanced revenue growth.Conclusion: Why Palantir Garners a 'Sell' RatingIn conclusion, Palantir's recent sharp surge in stock price and the fervor around its AI platform may make it an attractive proposition for momentum investors. However, the fundamentals tell a different story, one that is characterized by scalability concerns and unproven value proposition amidst stiff competition.Given the upcoming financials, which are likely to underline these intrinsic weaknesses, along with the market's propensity to gravitate towards rationality, we foresee a potential correction. The gulf between the company's current valuation and its fundamental performance is too vast to ignore.With the above factors in play, a 'Sell' rating appears warranted. The current stock price does not seem to be a reflection of the underlying value of the business, thus calling for a reevaluation of its investment viability. As always, investors are advised to conduct their due diligence and invest in alignment with their risk tolerance and financial objectives.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":388,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9941677992,"gmtCreate":1680246111617,"gmtModify":1680246115476,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Excited to hear that&nbsp;","listText":"Excited to hear that&nbsp;","text":"Excited to hear that","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941677992","repostId":"2323701579","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2323701579","pubTimestamp":1680243113,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2323701579?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-31 14:11","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Alibaba, JD.com Awaken China Tech’s Long-Dormant IPO Machine","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2323701579","media":"Bloomberg","summary":"(Bloomberg) -- Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. and JD.com Inc. have begun preparations for a trio of the ","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>(Bloomberg) -- Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. and JD.com Inc. have begun preparations for a trio of the year’s biggest Chinese debuts, heralding a wave of initial public offerings that promise to breathe new life into the struggling technology industry and Hong Kong’s stock market.</p><p>Cainiao Network Technology Co., Alibaba’s logistics arm, has kicked off discussions with banks for what may become the first of several IPOs by units of the e-commerce giant. On Thursday, two JD subsidiaries filed for first-time share sales in the city. Those three listings could raise about $5 billion between them, people familiar with the matter said.</p><p>The moves ignited hopes that Beijing — keen to resuscitate the world’s second-largest economy — is unfettering the private sector, allowing its biggest names to again pursue business and fundraising. Alibaba got the ball rolling this week by unveiling a six-way split that could usher several businesses — including Cainiao — onto public markets. That shake-up accomplishes Beijing’s broader aim of carving up tech titans and diminishing their influence over swaths of the economy — while unlocking potentially billions of dollars in value.</p><p>The revival of the Chinese tech IPO train ends a year-long drought that set in after regulators pulled the plug on Ant Group Co.’s record IPO. Once among the world’s most lucrative investment banking plays, the business dried up around 2021 when Beijing launched a blistering attack on internet sectors from online commerce to gaming, and tightened requirements for overseas listings.</p><p>“For the big techs, spinoffs no doubt can boost shareholder return, unlock the company value and ease regulatory concerns related to anti-trust,” said Willer Chen, senior analyst at Forsyth Barr Asia Ltd. “For more than a year or so, there has been very light demand on the deal side as market conditions were weak and investors disheartened. Now, the environment seems more friendly for valuation, which make sense for big tech subsidiaries that have a mature business and strong cash need to consider IPOs.”</p><p>A number of Chinese tech names have lodged or resubmitted their Hong Kong listing applications in just the past week: Lalatech Holdings Ltd., another tech-driven logistics giant in China, social media app Soulgate Inc. and fitness app Keep Inc. But there are bigger candidates: TikTok-owner ByteDance Ltd., ride-hailing giant Didi Global Inc. and social media player Xiaohongshu are potentially waiting in the wings.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/6f8bb38d0b18335d4c4c858e98b8336a\" tg-width=\"737\" tg-height=\"498\"/></p><p>Alibaba’s announcement dovetailed with the return of its billionaire co-founder Jack Ma to China, as well as a series of official proclamations of support for the private sector. And there’s no guarantee that splitting up and spinning off actually propels businesses over the long haul.</p><p>But Alibaba and JD are adding fuel to a trend that’s emerged this year. Chinese firms have beaten their US and European peers early in the year on equity financing, buoyed by hopes about China’s post-Covid reopening while the rest of the world grapples with a potential recession.</p><p>It “indicates Beijing support for more buoyant capital market activities within China’s tech sector ahead,” said Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Catherine Lim. “This should help lift overall market sentiment and anticipation for the listing of other mammoth companies within the sector.”</p><p>Tapping the IPO market is key for Chinese firms to bankroll expansion and expand their investor base. A wave of listings will also benefit Hong Kong, long the prime venue for Chinese debuts until Beijing clamped down. The city has only seen about $852 million raised through IPOs so far this year, a fraction of the $4.1 billion raised in the same period in 2022.</p><p>Cainiao, which means amateur or rookie in Chinese, is on track to hit the market first in part because it’s had a long track-record as a standalone operation that supports other parts of the Alibaba empire. While loss-making, the unit has consistently racked up double-digit revenue growth and is one of the company’s most recognizable brands, a nationwide logistics giant that helps ship upwards of a billion packages during the company’s signature Singles’ Day shopping festival.</p><p>In the longer term, Alibaba’s burgeoning cloud business is attracting outsized anticipation. Group Chief Executive Officer Daniel Zhang will personally take the helm, underscoring hopes that artificial intelligence will lay the foundation for future growth. That unit houses its Slack-like DingTalk app and provides cloud computing and data-processing services worldwide. Much like Amazon Web Services, it grew out of the need for massive computing power to support e-commerce, and now is a leading regional player in the business of providing cloud and data services to corporate clients.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/77f8357b400d61cab95c975d47967182\" tg-width=\"740\" tg-height=\"437\"/></p><p>For JD, it had in past years spun off divisions including JD Health International Inc., which raised almost $4 billion in a 2020 Hong Kong IPO. JD Technology, its fintech arm, may be looking to list in the Asian financial hub.</p><p>There’s been speculation also about Tencent Holdings Ltd. potentially taking a page out of Alibaba’s book. </p><p>It runs China’s biggest mobile wallet and payments platform, alongside four main businesses with spinoff potential: gaming, cloud computing, WeChat and online content such as video. The company has already listed music and online literature.</p><p>“There are positive implications for the sector as investors get reminded that the Chinese Internet platforms are significantly undervalued, and these companies will continue to try to narrow the gap,” said Vey-Sern Ling, managing director at Union Bancaire Privee. “It also shows that the regulatory environment is supportive.”</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Alibaba, JD.com Awaken China Tech’s Long-Dormant IPO Machine</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAlibaba, JD.com Awaken China Tech’s Long-Dormant IPO Machine\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-31 14:11 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-31/alibaba-jd-com-awaken-china-tech-s-long-dormant-ipo-machine?srnd=premium-asia><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>(Bloomberg) -- Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. and JD.com Inc. have begun preparations for a trio of the year’s biggest Chinese debuts, heralding a wave of initial public offerings that promise to breathe ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-31/alibaba-jd-com-awaken-china-tech-s-long-dormant-ipo-machine?srnd=premium-asia\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BABA":"阿里巴巴","09988":"阿里巴巴-W","JD":"京东","09618":"京东集团-SW"},"source_url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-31/alibaba-jd-com-awaken-china-tech-s-long-dormant-ipo-machine?srnd=premium-asia","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2323701579","content_text":"(Bloomberg) -- Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. and JD.com Inc. have begun preparations for a trio of the year’s biggest Chinese debuts, heralding a wave of initial public offerings that promise to breathe new life into the struggling technology industry and Hong Kong’s stock market.Cainiao Network Technology Co., Alibaba’s logistics arm, has kicked off discussions with banks for what may become the first of several IPOs by units of the e-commerce giant. On Thursday, two JD subsidiaries filed for first-time share sales in the city. Those three listings could raise about $5 billion between them, people familiar with the matter said.The moves ignited hopes that Beijing — keen to resuscitate the world’s second-largest economy — is unfettering the private sector, allowing its biggest names to again pursue business and fundraising. Alibaba got the ball rolling this week by unveiling a six-way split that could usher several businesses — including Cainiao — onto public markets. That shake-up accomplishes Beijing’s broader aim of carving up tech titans and diminishing their influence over swaths of the economy — while unlocking potentially billions of dollars in value.The revival of the Chinese tech IPO train ends a year-long drought that set in after regulators pulled the plug on Ant Group Co.’s record IPO. Once among the world’s most lucrative investment banking plays, the business dried up around 2021 when Beijing launched a blistering attack on internet sectors from online commerce to gaming, and tightened requirements for overseas listings.“For the big techs, spinoffs no doubt can boost shareholder return, unlock the company value and ease regulatory concerns related to anti-trust,” said Willer Chen, senior analyst at Forsyth Barr Asia Ltd. “For more than a year or so, there has been very light demand on the deal side as market conditions were weak and investors disheartened. Now, the environment seems more friendly for valuation, which make sense for big tech subsidiaries that have a mature business and strong cash need to consider IPOs.”A number of Chinese tech names have lodged or resubmitted their Hong Kong listing applications in just the past week: Lalatech Holdings Ltd., another tech-driven logistics giant in China, social media app Soulgate Inc. and fitness app Keep Inc. But there are bigger candidates: TikTok-owner ByteDance Ltd., ride-hailing giant Didi Global Inc. and social media player Xiaohongshu are potentially waiting in the wings.Alibaba’s announcement dovetailed with the return of its billionaire co-founder Jack Ma to China, as well as a series of official proclamations of support for the private sector. And there’s no guarantee that splitting up and spinning off actually propels businesses over the long haul.But Alibaba and JD are adding fuel to a trend that’s emerged this year. Chinese firms have beaten their US and European peers early in the year on equity financing, buoyed by hopes about China’s post-Covid reopening while the rest of the world grapples with a potential recession.It “indicates Beijing support for more buoyant capital market activities within China’s tech sector ahead,” said Bloomberg Intelligence analyst Catherine Lim. “This should help lift overall market sentiment and anticipation for the listing of other mammoth companies within the sector.”Tapping the IPO market is key for Chinese firms to bankroll expansion and expand their investor base. A wave of listings will also benefit Hong Kong, long the prime venue for Chinese debuts until Beijing clamped down. The city has only seen about $852 million raised through IPOs so far this year, a fraction of the $4.1 billion raised in the same period in 2022.Cainiao, which means amateur or rookie in Chinese, is on track to hit the market first in part because it’s had a long track-record as a standalone operation that supports other parts of the Alibaba empire. While loss-making, the unit has consistently racked up double-digit revenue growth and is one of the company’s most recognizable brands, a nationwide logistics giant that helps ship upwards of a billion packages during the company’s signature Singles’ Day shopping festival.In the longer term, Alibaba’s burgeoning cloud business is attracting outsized anticipation. Group Chief Executive Officer Daniel Zhang will personally take the helm, underscoring hopes that artificial intelligence will lay the foundation for future growth. That unit houses its Slack-like DingTalk app and provides cloud computing and data-processing services worldwide. Much like Amazon Web Services, it grew out of the need for massive computing power to support e-commerce, and now is a leading regional player in the business of providing cloud and data services to corporate clients.For JD, it had in past years spun off divisions including JD Health International Inc., which raised almost $4 billion in a 2020 Hong Kong IPO. JD Technology, its fintech arm, may be looking to list in the Asian financial hub.There’s been speculation also about Tencent Holdings Ltd. potentially taking a page out of Alibaba’s book. It runs China’s biggest mobile wallet and payments platform, alongside four main businesses with spinoff potential: gaming, cloud computing, WeChat and online content such as video. The company has already listed music and online literature.“There are positive implications for the sector as investors get reminded that the Chinese Internet platforms are significantly undervalued, and these companies will continue to try to narrow the gap,” said Vey-Sern Ling, managing director at Union Bancaire Privee. “It also shows that the regulatory environment is supportive.”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":157,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9941608431,"gmtCreate":1680174496523,"gmtModify":1680174500357,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"That was quite an insightful write-up...","listText":"That was quite an insightful write-up...","text":"That was quite an insightful write-up...","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":3,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941608431","repostId":"1160443789","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":319,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9957775064,"gmtCreate":1677575072959,"gmtModify":1677575081471,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"$Alibaba(09988)$ Bullish Next week's National People's Congress meeting will set the tone for next leg of growth/bull-run. 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The market rumored that activist investor Ryan Cohen acquired BABA stakes and urged the company to conduct more buybacks. TENCENT (00700.HK) lost 0.81%. MEITUAN-W (03690.HK) sank 1.21%.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/df853d90b19af18a19476ace8796df0f\" tg-width=\"438\" tg-height=\"529\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p><b>Macro News:</b> Based on preliminary calculation, China&#39;s GDP stretched 3% YoY in 2022 to RMB121.02 trillion, data from the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) showed. The country&#39;s GDP elevated 2.9% YoY in the fourth quarter of 2022.</p><p><b>Company News:</b> TENCENT (00700.HK)&#39;s statement disclosed that it repurchased 950,000 shares of the company on the Stock Exchange on 16 January, at $364-376.2 per share, involving about $353 million.</p><p>NIO&#39;s ET5 electric sedan moved up in a China Passenger Car Association (CPCA) ranking of premium sedan sales, as it saw significant growth in deliveries in December. With 7,594 retail sales in December, the ET5 ranked No. 7 in China for premium sedan sales starting at more than 300,000 yuan ($44,310), according to the list released today by the China Passenger Car Association (CPCA).</p><p><b>Global News:</b> U.S. futures traded in the red on Tuesday morning Asia session. The Dow Jones futures fell 0.18% while the Nasdaq futures sank 0.54%. The S&amp;P 500 futures were trading lower by 0.35%.</p><p>Elsewhere in Asia-Pacific, Australia’s ASX 200 was trading lower by 0.12%. China’s Shanghai Composite index lost 0.25%.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Alibaba Gained 0.26%, JD.com Fell; Hang Seng Lost Over 200 Points</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAlibaba Gained 0.26%, JD.com Fell; Hang Seng Lost Over 200 Points\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2023-01-17 11:35</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>Hong Kong stocks were traded lower on Tuesday, with the benchmark Hang Seng falling 240.5 pts or 1.11%. The HSCEI dipped 0.93%; the HSTECH sank 0.8%.</p><p>As to techs, BABA-SW (09988.HK) rose 0.26% to. The market rumored that activist investor Ryan Cohen acquired BABA stakes and urged the company to conduct more buybacks. TENCENT (00700.HK) lost 0.81%. MEITUAN-W (03690.HK) sank 1.21%.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/df853d90b19af18a19476ace8796df0f\" tg-width=\"438\" tg-height=\"529\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p><b>Macro News:</b> Based on preliminary calculation, China&#39;s GDP stretched 3% YoY in 2022 to RMB121.02 trillion, data from the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) showed. The country&#39;s GDP elevated 2.9% YoY in the fourth quarter of 2022.</p><p><b>Company News:</b> TENCENT (00700.HK)&#39;s statement disclosed that it repurchased 950,000 shares of the company on the Stock Exchange on 16 January, at $364-376.2 per share, involving about $353 million.</p><p>NIO&#39;s ET5 electric sedan moved up in a China Passenger Car Association (CPCA) ranking of premium sedan sales, as it saw significant growth in deliveries in December. With 7,594 retail sales in December, the ET5 ranked No. 7 in China for premium sedan sales starting at more than 300,000 yuan ($44,310), according to the list released today by the China Passenger Car Association (CPCA).</p><p><b>Global News:</b> U.S. futures traded in the red on Tuesday morning Asia session. The Dow Jones futures fell 0.18% while the Nasdaq futures sank 0.54%. The S&amp;P 500 futures were trading lower by 0.35%.</p><p>Elsewhere in Asia-Pacific, Australia’s ASX 200 was trading lower by 0.12%. China’s Shanghai Composite index lost 0.25%.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"09618":"京东集团-SW","09866":"蔚来-SW","09988":"阿里巴巴-W"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1125584649","content_text":"Hong Kong stocks were traded lower on Tuesday, with the benchmark Hang Seng falling 240.5 pts or 1.11%. The HSCEI dipped 0.93%; the HSTECH sank 0.8%.As to techs, BABA-SW (09988.HK) rose 0.26% to. The market rumored that activist investor Ryan Cohen acquired BABA stakes and urged the company to conduct more buybacks. TENCENT (00700.HK) lost 0.81%. MEITUAN-W (03690.HK) sank 1.21%.Macro News: Based on preliminary calculation, China's GDP stretched 3% YoY in 2022 to RMB121.02 trillion, data from the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) showed. The country's GDP elevated 2.9% YoY in the fourth quarter of 2022.Company News: TENCENT (00700.HK)'s statement disclosed that it repurchased 950,000 shares of the company on the Stock Exchange on 16 January, at $364-376.2 per share, involving about $353 million.NIO's ET5 electric sedan moved up in a China Passenger Car Association (CPCA) ranking of premium sedan sales, as it saw significant growth in deliveries in December. With 7,594 retail sales in December, the ET5 ranked No. 7 in China for premium sedan sales starting at more than 300,000 yuan ($44,310), according to the list released today by the China Passenger Car Association (CPCA).Global News: U.S. futures traded in the red on Tuesday morning Asia session. The Dow Jones futures fell 0.18% while the Nasdaq futures sank 0.54%. The S&P 500 futures were trading lower by 0.35%.Elsewhere in Asia-Pacific, Australia’s ASX 200 was trading lower by 0.12%. 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JPMorgan shares climbed 2.5%.</p><p>Still, Wall Street&#39;s biggest banks stockpiled more rainy-day funds to prepare for a possible recession and reported weak investment banking results while showing caution about forecasting income growth. They said higher rates helped to boost profits.</p><p>Strategists said investors will be watching for further guidance from company executives in the coming weeks.</p><p>&#34;This has shifted the focus back to earnings,&#34; said Peter Tuz, president of Chase Investment Counsel in Charlottesville, Virginia.</p><p>&#34;Even though the earnings were basically OK, people are just kind of stepping back, and you&#39;re going to see a wait-and-see attitude with stocks&#34; as investors hear more from company executives.</p><p>Year-over-year earnings from S&amp;P 500 companies are expected to have declined 2.2% for the quarter, according to Refinitiv data.</p><p>Also giving some support to the market Friday, the University of Michigan&#39;s survey showed an improvement in U.S. consumer sentiment, with the one-year inflation outlook falling in January to the lowest level since the spring of 2021.</p><p>The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 112.64 points, or 0.33%, to 34,302.61, the S&amp;P 500    gained 15.92 points, or 0.40%, to 3,999.09 and the Nasdaq Composite added 78.05 points, or 0.71%, to 11,079.16.</p><p>The S&amp;P 500 closed at its highest level since Dec. 13, while the Nasdaq closed at its highest level since Dec. 14.</p><p>For the week, the S&amp;P 500 gained 2.7% and the Dow rose 2%. The Nasdaq increased 4.8% in its biggest weekly percentage gain since Nov. 11.</p><p>The U.S. stock market will be closed Monday for the Martin Luther King Jr. Day holiday.</p><p>Thursday&#39;s Consumer Price Index and other recent data have bolstered hopes that a sustained downward trend in inflation could give the Federal Reserve room to dial back on its interest rate hikes.</p><p>Money market participants now see a 91.6% chance the Fed will hike the benchmark rate by 25 basis points in February.</p><p>Among the day&#39;s decliners, Tesla shares fell 0.9% after it slashed prices on its electric vehicles in the United States and Europe by as much as 20% after missing 2022 deliveries estimates.</p><p>In other earnings news, UnitedHealth Group Inc shares rose after it beat Wall Street expectations for fourth-quarter profit but the stock ended down on the day.</p><p>Shares of Delta Air Lines Inc dropped 3.5% as the company forecast first-quarter profit below expectations.</p><p>Volume on U.S. exchanges was 10.77 billion shares, compared with the 10.81 billion average for the full session over the last 20 trading days.</p><p>Advancing issues outnumbered declining ones on the NYSE by a 1.79-to-1 ratio; 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Co and <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BOAPL\">Bank of America Corp</a> beat quarterly earnings estimates, while Wells Fargo &amp; Co and Citigroup Inc fell short of quarterly profit estimates.</p><p>But shares of all four firms rose, along with the S&amp;P 500 banks index, which ended up 1.6%. JPMorgan shares climbed 2.5%.</p><p>Still, Wall Street&#39;s biggest banks stockpiled more rainy-day funds to prepare for a possible recession and reported weak investment banking results while showing caution about forecasting income growth. They said higher rates helped to boost profits.</p><p>Strategists said investors will be watching for further guidance from company executives in the coming weeks.</p><p>&#34;This has shifted the focus back to earnings,&#34; said Peter Tuz, president of Chase Investment Counsel in Charlottesville, Virginia.</p><p>&#34;Even though the earnings were basically OK, people are just kind of stepping back, and you&#39;re going to see a wait-and-see attitude with stocks&#34; as investors hear more from company executives.</p><p>Year-over-year earnings from S&amp;P 500 companies are expected to have declined 2.2% for the quarter, according to Refinitiv data.</p><p>Also giving some support to the market Friday, the University of Michigan&#39;s survey showed an improvement in U.S. consumer sentiment, with the one-year inflation outlook falling in January to the lowest level since the spring of 2021.</p><p>The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 112.64 points, or 0.33%, to 34,302.61, the S&amp;P 500    gained 15.92 points, or 0.40%, to 3,999.09 and the Nasdaq Composite added 78.05 points, or 0.71%, to 11,079.16.</p><p>The S&amp;P 500 closed at its highest level since Dec. 13, while the Nasdaq closed at its highest level since Dec. 14.</p><p>For the week, the S&amp;P 500 gained 2.7% and the Dow rose 2%. The Nasdaq increased 4.8% in its biggest weekly percentage gain since Nov. 11.</p><p>The U.S. stock market will be closed Monday for the Martin Luther King Jr. Day holiday.</p><p>Thursday&#39;s Consumer Price Index and other recent data have bolstered hopes that a sustained downward trend in inflation could give the Federal Reserve room to dial back on its interest rate hikes.</p><p>Money market participants now see a 91.6% chance the Fed will hike the benchmark rate by 25 basis points in February.</p><p>Among the day&#39;s decliners, Tesla shares fell 0.9% after it slashed prices on its electric vehicles in the United States and Europe by as much as 20% after missing 2022 deliveries estimates.</p><p>In other earnings news, UnitedHealth Group Inc shares rose after it beat Wall Street expectations for fourth-quarter profit but the stock ended down on the day.</p><p>Shares of Delta Air Lines Inc dropped 3.5% as the company forecast first-quarter profit below expectations.</p><p>Volume on U.S. exchanges was 10.77 billion shares, compared with the 10.81 billion average for the full session over the last 20 trading days.</p><p>Advancing issues outnumbered declining ones on the NYSE by a 1.79-to-1 ratio; on Nasdaq, a 1.78-to-1 ratio favored advancers.</p><p>The S&amp;P 500 posted 12 new 52-week highs and 2 new lows; the Nasdaq Composite recorded 105 new highs and 8 new lows.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".SPX":"S&P 500 Index",".DJI":"道琼斯",".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2303336685","content_text":"The S&P 500 and Nasdaq finished at their highest levels in a month on Friday, with shares of JPMorgan Chase and other banks rising following their quarterly results, which kicked off the earnings season.All three major indexes also registered strong gains for the week, leaving the S&P 500 up 4.2% so far in 2023, and the Cboe Volatility index    - Wall Street's fear gauge - closed at a one-year low.On Friday, financials were among sectors that gave the S&P 500 the most support.JPMorgan Chase & Co and Bank of America Corp beat quarterly earnings estimates, while Wells Fargo & Co and Citigroup Inc fell short of quarterly profit estimates.But shares of all four firms rose, along with the S&P 500 banks index, which ended up 1.6%. JPMorgan shares climbed 2.5%.Still, Wall Street's biggest banks stockpiled more rainy-day funds to prepare for a possible recession and reported weak investment banking results while showing caution about forecasting income growth. They said higher rates helped to boost profits.Strategists said investors will be watching for further guidance from company executives in the coming weeks.\"This has shifted the focus back to earnings,\" said Peter Tuz, president of Chase Investment Counsel in Charlottesville, Virginia.\"Even though the earnings were basically OK, people are just kind of stepping back, and you're going to see a wait-and-see attitude with stocks\" as investors hear more from company executives.Year-over-year earnings from S&P 500 companies are expected to have declined 2.2% for the quarter, according to Refinitiv data.Also giving some support to the market Friday, the University of Michigan's survey showed an improvement in U.S. consumer sentiment, with the one-year inflation outlook falling in January to the lowest level since the spring of 2021.The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 112.64 points, or 0.33%, to 34,302.61, the S&P 500    gained 15.92 points, or 0.40%, to 3,999.09 and the Nasdaq Composite added 78.05 points, or 0.71%, to 11,079.16.The S&P 500 closed at its highest level since Dec. 13, while the Nasdaq closed at its highest level since Dec. 14.For the week, the S&P 500 gained 2.7% and the Dow rose 2%. The Nasdaq increased 4.8% in its biggest weekly percentage gain since Nov. 11.The U.S. stock market will be closed Monday for the Martin Luther King Jr. Day holiday.Thursday's Consumer Price Index and other recent data have bolstered hopes that a sustained downward trend in inflation could give the Federal Reserve room to dial back on its interest rate hikes.Money market participants now see a 91.6% chance the Fed will hike the benchmark rate by 25 basis points in February.Among the day's decliners, Tesla shares fell 0.9% after it slashed prices on its electric vehicles in the United States and Europe by as much as 20% after missing 2022 deliveries estimates.In other earnings news, UnitedHealth Group Inc shares rose after it beat Wall Street expectations for fourth-quarter profit but the stock ended down on the day.Shares of Delta Air Lines Inc dropped 3.5% as the company forecast first-quarter profit below expectations.Volume on U.S. exchanges was 10.77 billion shares, compared with the 10.81 billion average for the full session over the last 20 trading days.Advancing issues outnumbered declining ones on the NYSE by a 1.79-to-1 ratio; on Nasdaq, a 1.78-to-1 ratio favored advancers.The S&P 500 posted 12 new 52-week highs and 2 new lows; the Nasdaq Composite recorded 105 new highs and 8 new lows.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":305,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9951765492,"gmtCreate":1673568530217,"gmtModify":1676538856951,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Good to know that CPI indeed is showing smaller increase as compared to previous year. Its a relief indeed","listText":"Good to know that CPI indeed is showing smaller increase as compared to previous year. Its a relief indeed","text":"Good to know that CPI indeed is showing smaller increase as compared to previous year. Its a relief indeed","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":5,"commentSize":2,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9951765492","repostId":"1116897397","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1116897397","pubTimestamp":1673560856,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1116897397?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-01-13 06:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Fed on Track for Rate-Hike Downshift After Cool Inflation Data","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1116897397","media":"Bloomberg","summary":"Officials voice support for quarter-point increase next monthKey inflation gauges post smallest 12-m","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul><li>Officials voice support for quarter-point increase next month</li><li>Key inflation gauges post smallest 12-month advances since ‘21</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cdc7f0861c39fcf6e2899e0d7990b4ed\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"666\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/><span>The Marriner S. Eccles Federal Reserve building in Washington, DC. Photographer: Al Drago/Bloomberg</span></p><p>The Federal Reserve is on track to downshift to smaller interest-rate increases following a further cooling in US inflation, though it’s likely to keep hiking until price pressures show more definitive signs of slowing.</p><p>Philadelphia Fed President Patrick Harker, speaking Thursday morning shortly after the Labor Department’s release of consumer price data, said rate hikes of a quarter-percentage point “will be appropriate going forward,” following bigger increases throughout most of 2022. Harker’s comments echoed remarks a day earlier from Susan Collins, his counterpart at the Boston Fed.</p><p>Consumer prices rose 6.5% in the 12 months through December, marking the slowest inflation rate in more than a year. So-called core inflation, which excludes food and energy, was up 5.7% over the same period, the smallest advance in a year. Both figures matched median forecasts.</p><p>“The trend in services inflation seems to be abating. That’s what the Fed will be looking at in today’s report,” said Thomas Costerg, a senior US economist at Pictet Wealth Management in Geneva, Switzerland. “At the margin, this means an increased probability of a 25-basis-point rate hike on February 1st.”</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9406042250fe47138167e9a26099e30f\" tg-width=\"930\" tg-height=\"523\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Investors seized on the numbers as a sign that the Fed would dial down the pace of its tightening campaign, which ramped into high gear last year amid the fastest inflation in four decades.</p><p>The message of moderation was later reinforced by Richmond Fed President Thomas Barkin, who told a bankers conference that “it makes sense to steer more deliberately as we work to bring inflation down.” On the other hand, his St. Louis colleague James Bullard separately said that he continued to favor front-loading policy moves to get rates above 5% “as soon as possible.”</p><p>Harker is the only voter this year on monetary policy among the four officials who spoke publicly on Thursday.</p><p>With the central bank’s benchmark rate now at 4.3%, market participants expect a quarter-point rate hike at the Jan. 31-Feb. 1 meeting. And traders have also started to price in a small possibility that the Fed will forego a rate hike in March. Swaps shifted to show less than 50 basis points of tightening priced in across the next two meetings.</p><p>While moderating inflation paves the way for a slower pace of rate increases in 2023, the market’s expectation of rate cuts later in the year is still at odds with Fed guidance. Policymakers have emphasized the need to hold rates at an elevated level for quite some time and cautioned against underestimating their will to do so.</p><p>The outlook for interest rates probably hinges on developments in services prices in particular, a category Fed Chair Jerome Powell and his colleagues have homed in on in recent months. Officials have voiced concern that elevated wage growth will feed into prices in the services sector, keeping inflation there elevated until the labor market softens.</p><p>So far, there are few signs of such weakness. A separate Labor Department report Thursday showed applications for unemployment benefits remained at a historically-low level last week. The latest monthly jobs report showed some cooling in wage growth in December, but hiring was still robust and the unemployment rate fell to match a five-decade low.</p><p>Stripping out energy, rent and owners’ equivalent rent, services prices were up 0.3% last month, according to Bloomberg calculations. Removing medical care as well — an adjustment that helps offset a quirk in the CPI’s calculation of health insurance — services prices were up by a similar amount.</p><blockquote>“A mostly favorable December CPI report gives the Fed room to further downshift the pace of rate hikes to 25 basis points at the Jan. 31-Feb. 1 meeting. We expect the Fed funds rate to peak at 5% in March and stay at that level for the rest of the year.”</blockquote><blockquote>—Anna Wong, economist</blockquote><p>Shelter costs — which are the biggest services component and make up about a third of the overall CPI index — increased 0.8% last month, an acceleration from November. Rents and owners’ equivalent rent both rose by the same amount, while hotel stays advanced 1.5% after falling in the prior month.</p><p>Because of the way this category is calculated, there’s a delay between real-time measures — which currently show rents are beginning to decline — and the Labor Department data.</p><p>Excluding food and energy, goods prices fell 0.3%, led by used cars. Gasoline prices dropped 9.4%, “by far” the largest contributor to the decrease in the headline figure, the Labor Department said.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/abd484fbc24057531abc738470479810\" tg-width=\"967\" tg-height=\"460\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>A rotation in spending from goods to services continues to weigh on merchandise prices. A further retreat in goods prices is expected to be a major driver of a rapid descent in annual core CPI in 2023, building on a pullback in the final months of last year.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/56c482a698628542653e77b649f235ec\" tg-width=\"930\" tg-height=\"523\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>While it’s broadly expected for annual price growth to substantially slow this year, a lot of uncertainty remains as to how far inflation may fall and whether the Fed’s rapid rate increases ultimately tip the US into recession.</p><p>Some Fed watchers cautioned that the coast is not yet clear for a downshift to quarter-point hikes, even despite the good news on inflation.</p><p>“The base case for the February meeting is 25 basis points, but with still notable risk of 50 basis points,” said Roberto Perli, the head of global policy research at Piper Sandler &amp; Co. in Washington. “What matters the most is the peak rate, and there is no reason to believe that the Fed changed its mind about it being north of 5% based on today’s report.”</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Fed on Track for Rate-Hike Downshift After Cool Inflation Data</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nFed on Track for Rate-Hike Downshift After Cool Inflation Data\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-01-13 06:00 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-12/fed-on-track-for-rate-hike-downshift-after-cool-inflation-data-lctajyci><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Officials voice support for quarter-point increase next monthKey inflation gauges post smallest 12-month advances since ‘21The Marriner S. Eccles Federal Reserve building in Washington, DC. ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-12/fed-on-track-for-rate-hike-downshift-after-cool-inflation-data-lctajyci\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite",".SPX":"S&P 500 Index",".DJI":"道琼斯"},"source_url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-12/fed-on-track-for-rate-hike-downshift-after-cool-inflation-data-lctajyci","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1116897397","content_text":"Officials voice support for quarter-point increase next monthKey inflation gauges post smallest 12-month advances since ‘21The Marriner S. Eccles Federal Reserve building in Washington, DC. Photographer: Al Drago/BloombergThe Federal Reserve is on track to downshift to smaller interest-rate increases following a further cooling in US inflation, though it’s likely to keep hiking until price pressures show more definitive signs of slowing.Philadelphia Fed President Patrick Harker, speaking Thursday morning shortly after the Labor Department’s release of consumer price data, said rate hikes of a quarter-percentage point “will be appropriate going forward,” following bigger increases throughout most of 2022. Harker’s comments echoed remarks a day earlier from Susan Collins, his counterpart at the Boston Fed.Consumer prices rose 6.5% in the 12 months through December, marking the slowest inflation rate in more than a year. So-called core inflation, which excludes food and energy, was up 5.7% over the same period, the smallest advance in a year. Both figures matched median forecasts.“The trend in services inflation seems to be abating. That’s what the Fed will be looking at in today’s report,” said Thomas Costerg, a senior US economist at Pictet Wealth Management in Geneva, Switzerland. “At the margin, this means an increased probability of a 25-basis-point rate hike on February 1st.”Investors seized on the numbers as a sign that the Fed would dial down the pace of its tightening campaign, which ramped into high gear last year amid the fastest inflation in four decades.The message of moderation was later reinforced by Richmond Fed President Thomas Barkin, who told a bankers conference that “it makes sense to steer more deliberately as we work to bring inflation down.” On the other hand, his St. Louis colleague James Bullard separately said that he continued to favor front-loading policy moves to get rates above 5% “as soon as possible.”Harker is the only voter this year on monetary policy among the four officials who spoke publicly on Thursday.With the central bank’s benchmark rate now at 4.3%, market participants expect a quarter-point rate hike at the Jan. 31-Feb. 1 meeting. And traders have also started to price in a small possibility that the Fed will forego a rate hike in March. Swaps shifted to show less than 50 basis points of tightening priced in across the next two meetings.While moderating inflation paves the way for a slower pace of rate increases in 2023, the market’s expectation of rate cuts later in the year is still at odds with Fed guidance. Policymakers have emphasized the need to hold rates at an elevated level for quite some time and cautioned against underestimating their will to do so.The outlook for interest rates probably hinges on developments in services prices in particular, a category Fed Chair Jerome Powell and his colleagues have homed in on in recent months. Officials have voiced concern that elevated wage growth will feed into prices in the services sector, keeping inflation there elevated until the labor market softens.So far, there are few signs of such weakness. A separate Labor Department report Thursday showed applications for unemployment benefits remained at a historically-low level last week. The latest monthly jobs report showed some cooling in wage growth in December, but hiring was still robust and the unemployment rate fell to match a five-decade low.Stripping out energy, rent and owners’ equivalent rent, services prices were up 0.3% last month, according to Bloomberg calculations. Removing medical care as well — an adjustment that helps offset a quirk in the CPI’s calculation of health insurance — services prices were up by a similar amount.“A mostly favorable December CPI report gives the Fed room to further downshift the pace of rate hikes to 25 basis points at the Jan. 31-Feb. 1 meeting. We expect the Fed funds rate to peak at 5% in March and stay at that level for the rest of the year.”—Anna Wong, economistShelter costs — which are the biggest services component and make up about a third of the overall CPI index — increased 0.8% last month, an acceleration from November. Rents and owners’ equivalent rent both rose by the same amount, while hotel stays advanced 1.5% after falling in the prior month.Because of the way this category is calculated, there’s a delay between real-time measures — which currently show rents are beginning to decline — and the Labor Department data.Excluding food and energy, goods prices fell 0.3%, led by used cars. Gasoline prices dropped 9.4%, “by far” the largest contributor to the decrease in the headline figure, the Labor Department said.A rotation in spending from goods to services continues to weigh on merchandise prices. A further retreat in goods prices is expected to be a major driver of a rapid descent in annual core CPI in 2023, building on a pullback in the final months of last year.While it’s broadly expected for annual price growth to substantially slow this year, a lot of uncertainty remains as to how far inflation may fall and whether the Fed’s rapid rate increases ultimately tip the US into recession.Some Fed watchers cautioned that the coast is not yet clear for a downshift to quarter-point hikes, even despite the good news on inflation.“The base case for the February meeting is 25 basis points, but with still notable risk of 50 basis points,” said Roberto Perli, the head of global policy research at Piper Sandler & Co. in Washington. “What matters the most is the peak rate, and there is no reason to believe that the Fed changed its mind about it being north of 5% based on today’s report.”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":115,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":185453847646336,"gmtCreate":1686316100799,"gmtModify":1686316104408,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"That's how the market works...[Happy]&nbsp;","listText":"That's how the market works...[Happy]&nbsp;","text":"That's how the market works...[Happy]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":8,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/185453847646336","repostId":"2341138823","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":336,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":243519168040976,"gmtCreate":1700489928814,"gmtModify":1700489934212,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Are you really&nbsp;serious?? Or telling us a joke&nbsp;[LOL]&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;","listText":"Are you really&nbsp;serious?? Or telling us a joke&nbsp;[LOL]&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;","text":"Are you really serious?? Or telling us a joke [LOL]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":4,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/243519168040976","repostId":"2384589323","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2384589323","pubTimestamp":1700488117,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2384589323?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-11-20 21:48","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Alibaba: Don't Fall For This Trap","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2384589323","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Let's figure it out. Alibaba's Q2 Results Weren't That Bad Alibaba Group experienced a 9% stock drop after reporting its second-quarter results, which included revenue of RMB224.79 billion , growing 8.5% year-over-year but falling short of analysts' expectations. But non-GAAP earnings per American depositary share  increased by 21% to RMB15.63 , surpassing estimates. Seeking Alpha News Segment-wise, revenue for Taobao and Tmall Group reached RMB97.7 billion, up 4%, with adjusted EBITDA increasing by 3% to RMB47.1 billion. Alibaba International Digital Commerce Group reported revenue of RMB24.5 billion, a 53% increase, while Cainiao's total revenue grew by 25% to RMB22.8 billion. Local Services Group revenue rose by 16% to RMB15.6 billion. Cloud Intelligence Group generated revenue of RMB27.6 billion, a 2% increase, while its adjusted EBITDA increased by 44% to RMB1.4 billion. The Digital Media Entertainment group reported revenue of RMB5.8 billion, marking an 11% increase, with an impr","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Alibaba&#39;s Q2 results fell short of expectations, but non-GAAP earnings per ADS surpassed estimates.</p></li><li><p>The bullish catalyst, which was supposed to facilitate BABA’s business processes and enable the individual companies to grow faster under conditions of relative independence, has not materialized.</p></li><li><p>Alibaba&#39;s low valuation is mainly due to a lack of growth, making it less attractive compared to other companies in the same industry.</p></li><li><p>I still don&#39;t see the point of buying the Chinese giant for 7.57x FY2029 P/E to get a 6-year EPS CAGR of 4.1% when I can buy <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/EBAY\">eBay</a> for 6.64x and get a CAGR of 6.6%.</p></li><li><p>I do not recommend investors buy BABA shares, no matter how cheap and promising they may seem at first glance.</p></li></ul><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4f805543ab3786cb8cb1d7d9034e0368\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/></p><p>Robert Way</p><h2 id=\"id_3023641657\">Introduction</h2><p>I&#39;ve been covering <strong>Alibaba Group Holding Limited</strong> (NYSE:BABA) here on Seeking Alpha since September 2021. I started with a &#39;Sell&#39; rating when Alibaba was trading at $150 per share and upgraded the stock to &#39;Hold&#39; in December 2021 when the shares started trading at $113. Since then, I&#39;ve not changed my rating, although BABA kept falling lower.</p><p>The last time I published my &#39;Hold&#39; article was at the end of August 2023: At that time, I noted that BABA&#39;s attractiveness for Western investors wasn&#39;t really changing from a fundamental perspective, despite the obvious undervaluation. As time has shown, that thesis was correct, as the already cheap Chinese tech giant became even cheaper.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7b2f2064f6a0cfcde1d0e9ba1c35b075\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"323\"/></p><p>Seeking Alpha, author&#39;s notes</p><p>On November 16, 2023, Alibaba published its reports for Q2 FY2024, which had a strong negative impact not only on its own shares but also on the entire tech sector in China. What happened and is it really that bad? Maybe BABA has now become a &#39;bargain&#39;? Let&#39;s figure it out.</p><h2 id=\"id_2364546700\">Alibaba&#39;s Q2 Results Weren&#39;t That Bad</h2><p>Alibaba Group experienced a 9% stock drop after reporting its second-quarter results, which included revenue of RMB224.79 billion ($30.81 billion), growing 8.5% year-over-year but falling short of analysts&#39; expectations. But non-GAAP earnings per American depositary share (ADS) increased by 21% to RMB15.63 ($2.14), surpassing estimates.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/abe690de6ca639b19d15e44fb7751e43\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"375\"/></p><p>Seeking Alpha News</p><p>Segment-wise, revenue for Taobao and Tmall Group reached RMB97.7 billion, up 4%, with adjusted EBITDA increasing by 3% to RMB47.1 billion. Alibaba International Digital Commerce Group reported revenue of RMB24.5 billion, a 53% increase, while Cainiao&#39;s total revenue grew by 25% to RMB22.8 billion. Local Services Group revenue rose by 16% to RMB15.6 billion.</p><p>Cloud Intelligence Group generated revenue of RMB27.6 billion, a 2% increase, while its adjusted EBITDA increased by 44% to RMB1.4 billion. The Digital Media Entertainment group reported revenue of RMB5.8 billion, marking an 11% increase, with an improved adjusted EBITDA loss of RMB201 million compared to RMB362 million. The All Other segment, including DingTalk and Intelligent Information Platform, reported stable revenue at RMB48.1 billion and an adjusted EBITDA loss of RMB1.4 billion compared to RMB2.9 billion in the same quarter last year, primarily due to improved operating results from various businesses within the segment.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/f079d95db1bcd6936771edae5f66ad82\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"343\"/></p><p>BABA&#39;s IR materials [November 2023]</p><p>Cost trends, excluding share-based compensation (SBC), revealed a decrease in the cost of revenue ratio to 62%, stability in product development expenses (5%), sales and marketing expenses (11%), and a 1% decrease in general and administrative expenses (3%).</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/801092f739134e38068d82e084028aa1\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"330\"/></p><p>BABA&#39;s IR materials [November 2023]</p><p>The company repurchased ~$3 billion worth of shares from July 1 to November 15, accounting for 1.3% of total shares outstanding [~18.6 million ADSs]. Free cash flow for the quarter was RMB45.2 billion or $6.2 billion, reflecting a massive 27% increase YoY.</p><p>During the latest earnings call, the management emphasized 3 priorities for cash deployment in the upcoming quarter: innovation for growth, reducing total shares outstanding through accretive stock repurchases, and rewarding long-term investors via dividends. In addition to the existing $40 billion share repurchase program, Alibaba&#39;s board approved an annual cash dividend of US$0.125 per ordinary share or US$1.00 per ADS for fiscal year 2023, totaling ~$2.5 billion, with a payment date expected around January 11, 2024, for ordinary shareholders and January 18, 2024, for ADS holders.</p><p>As of September 30, 2023, Alibaba maintained a strong net cash position of RMB457.8 billion or $62.7 billion. At the same time, the company&#39;s current ratio is 1.94 and the debt-to-equity ratio is only 0.16, which is very low. So BABA&#39;s financial strength looks solid with such a low level of debt and good liquidity.</p><h2 id=\"id_1338785005\">But A New Catalyst Is Already A Thing Of The Past</h2><p>I remember a few months ago when the Alibaba bulls were trying to assess the positive impact of the proposed split of the company into different companies. At the time, many thought that BABA would unlock tremendous value for its shareholders if it split into 6 separate companies that would not interfere with each other&#39;s potential growth rate.</p><p>As time has shown, this catalyst was not to prove true: During the earnings call, management announced that Alibaba had decided not to pursue a full spin-off of the Cloud Intelligence Group due to uncertainties caused by US export restrictions on advanced computer chips. That was a surprise to the market - I think this is why the stock fell so sharply after the announcement.</p><p>The emphasis now is on investing in the core businesses, including Taobao and Tmall Group, for sustainable growth. Alibaba wants to increase its ROIC to double digits in the next few years, focusing on core businesses and ensuring non-core businesses become profitable, potentially monetizing certain investments to increase cash flow.</p><p>In my subjective opinion, BABA’s problem for a long time was precisely the lack of appropriate growth in the cloud segment. While Google (GOOG), Microsoft (MSFT), and Amazon (AMZN), to which BABA is often compared, continue to grow revenue in their cloud business segments at solid double-digit rates, Alibaba&#39;s Cloud is stagnating and losing more and more global market share. AI technologies are an excellent growth driver for this niche, but for some reason, BABA&#39;s cloud still refuses to grow even though we keep hearing about AI constantly.</p><p>From the last earnings call, I realized that <strong>Alibaba&#39;s future growth will be closely linked to &#39;Value&#39; segments whose growth will heavily depend on the macroeconomic conditions in China</strong> after the post-COVID low-base effect disappears, which has not yet fully materialized.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b5ae8faa3881acff6c7b9e92ede4f2ed\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"455\"/></p><p>YCharts, author&#39;s notes</p><p>Goldman Sach notes in its October report [proprietary source], that slower growth, coupled with policy uncertainty and geopolitical risks, is lowering China&#39;s equity market fair value. However, the report suggests that while these factors are already priced in, investment opportunities lie more in alpha themes than broad market beta.</p><p>China&#39;s GDP will most likely stop growing as before. I assume that Alibaba&#39;s already high market penetration in various Chinese markets makes the company&#39;s growth more variable, which could justify its current low valuation.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ddee6c1ca09cb057d9f22c78e80fb06a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"511\"/></p><p>Goldman Sachs [October 2023] - proprietary source</p><p>Yes, it is hard to believe that the current valuation of the company may be fair: BABA looks extremely undervalued with a P/E ratio for next year of ~8.8x and an EV/EBITDA of ~6.7x.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cb157da684786f7e6ee0470b55d84105\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"467\"/></p><p>Data by YCharts</p><p>I think we could easily see price increases of 10-20-30% against this backdrop. But most likely these potential &#39;rips&#39; will be used by hedge funds to exit their positions, as has happened many times before. But even now that there are no &#34;rips&#34; in the Chinese market, hedge funds continue to exit their positions.</p><blockquote><p>US and European fund managers have sold a net $1.6 billion of Chinese shares so far this month, following $3.5 billion of outflows in September, data from EPFR Global and Morgan Stanley show.</p><p>Source: Bloomberg [October 19, 2023]</p></blockquote><p>I suggest we return to the burning issue - Alibaba&#39;s low valuation. Let&#39;s think for a moment about what might explain BABA&#39;s current cheapness. You might think that BABA&#39;s P/E ratio is probably below 10x due to geopolitics and market overreaction. I will answer you that this is true to some extent, but mainly BABA is cheap because there is no growth (almost). If we take the long-term consensus estimates for earnings per share and the implied P/E ratios, we see that BABA is actually valued slightly higher than eBay (EBAY) today:</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d7e2b3f55b77b3e323cd6e5ec8f19e32\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"385\"/></p><p>Author&#39;s calculations, Seeking Alpha data</p><p>By overpaying just 2x to BABA&#39;s long-term P/E ratio of BABA, you can buy <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/MELI\">MercadoLibre</a> (MELI), whose EPS is estimated to grow more than 8 times faster over the same period (6 years). <em>Could anyone find &#39;fairness&#39; in the valuation of the two companies?</em></p><h2 id=\"id_4226314352\">The Bottom Line</h2><p>I understand that when comparing BABA with MELI, I&#39;m doing a little wrong by comparing companies with different business cycles. But I still don&#39;t see the point of buying the Chinese giant for 7.57x FY2029 P/E to get a 6-year EPS CAGR of 4.1% when I can buy eBay for 6.64x and get a CAGR of 6.6% (these 2 companies are roughly in the same business cycle).</p><p>The bullish catalyst, which was supposed to facilitate BABA’s business processes and enable the individual companies to grow faster under conditions of relative independence, has not materialized. Now I expect Alibaba to constrain itself and have relatively modest growth rates for which it makes no sense to overpay and take a big country risk when there are cheaper analogs in the U.S. (and even more so in emerging markets like Brazil).</p><p>Yes, Alibaba&#39;s financial position is very solid as the company continues to recover operationally and continues to buy shares from the market in large quantities. Therefore, I wouldn&#39;t be surprised if the company&#39;s shares suddenly rebound strongly. However, this potential recovery in stock price will likely provide an opportunity for the remaining investors to get out.</p><p>Based on the above, I do not recommend investors buy BABA shares, no matter how cheap and promising they may seem at first glance.</p><p><em>Thanks for reading!</em></p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Alibaba: Don't Fall For This Trap</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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I started with a 'Sell' rating when Alibaba was trading at $150 per share and upgraded the stock to 'Hold' in December 2021 when the shares started trading at $113. Since then, I've not changed my rating, although BABA kept falling lower.The last time I published my 'Hold' article was at the end of August 2023: At that time, I noted that BABA's attractiveness for Western investors wasn't really changing from a fundamental perspective, despite the obvious undervaluation. As time has shown, that thesis was correct, as the already cheap Chinese tech giant became even cheaper.Seeking Alpha, author's notesOn November 16, 2023, Alibaba published its reports for Q2 FY2024, which had a strong negative impact not only on its own shares but also on the entire tech sector in China. What happened and is it really that bad? Maybe BABA has now become a 'bargain'? Let's figure it out.Alibaba's Q2 Results Weren't That BadAlibaba Group experienced a 9% stock drop after reporting its second-quarter results, which included revenue of RMB224.79 billion ($30.81 billion), growing 8.5% year-over-year but falling short of analysts' expectations. But non-GAAP earnings per American depositary share (ADS) increased by 21% to RMB15.63 ($2.14), surpassing estimates.Seeking Alpha NewsSegment-wise, revenue for Taobao and Tmall Group reached RMB97.7 billion, up 4%, with adjusted EBITDA increasing by 3% to RMB47.1 billion. Alibaba International Digital Commerce Group reported revenue of RMB24.5 billion, a 53% increase, while Cainiao's total revenue grew by 25% to RMB22.8 billion. Local Services Group revenue rose by 16% to RMB15.6 billion.Cloud Intelligence Group generated revenue of RMB27.6 billion, a 2% increase, while its adjusted EBITDA increased by 44% to RMB1.4 billion. The Digital Media Entertainment group reported revenue of RMB5.8 billion, marking an 11% increase, with an improved adjusted EBITDA loss of RMB201 million compared to RMB362 million. The All Other segment, including DingTalk and Intelligent Information Platform, reported stable revenue at RMB48.1 billion and an adjusted EBITDA loss of RMB1.4 billion compared to RMB2.9 billion in the same quarter last year, primarily due to improved operating results from various businesses within the segment.BABA's IR materials [November 2023]Cost trends, excluding share-based compensation (SBC), revealed a decrease in the cost of revenue ratio to 62%, stability in product development expenses (5%), sales and marketing expenses (11%), and a 1% decrease in general and administrative expenses (3%).BABA's IR materials [November 2023]The company repurchased ~$3 billion worth of shares from July 1 to November 15, accounting for 1.3% of total shares outstanding [~18.6 million ADSs]. Free cash flow for the quarter was RMB45.2 billion or $6.2 billion, reflecting a massive 27% increase YoY.During the latest earnings call, the management emphasized 3 priorities for cash deployment in the upcoming quarter: innovation for growth, reducing total shares outstanding through accretive stock repurchases, and rewarding long-term investors via dividends. In addition to the existing $40 billion share repurchase program, Alibaba's board approved an annual cash dividend of US$0.125 per ordinary share or US$1.00 per ADS for fiscal year 2023, totaling ~$2.5 billion, with a payment date expected around January 11, 2024, for ordinary shareholders and January 18, 2024, for ADS holders.As of September 30, 2023, Alibaba maintained a strong net cash position of RMB457.8 billion or $62.7 billion. At the same time, the company's current ratio is 1.94 and the debt-to-equity ratio is only 0.16, which is very low. So BABA's financial strength looks solid with such a low level of debt and good liquidity.But A New Catalyst Is Already A Thing Of The PastI remember a few months ago when the Alibaba bulls were trying to assess the positive impact of the proposed split of the company into different companies. At the time, many thought that BABA would unlock tremendous value for its shareholders if it split into 6 separate companies that would not interfere with each other's potential growth rate.As time has shown, this catalyst was not to prove true: During the earnings call, management announced that Alibaba had decided not to pursue a full spin-off of the Cloud Intelligence Group due to uncertainties caused by US export restrictions on advanced computer chips. That was a surprise to the market - I think this is why the stock fell so sharply after the announcement.The emphasis now is on investing in the core businesses, including Taobao and Tmall Group, for sustainable growth. Alibaba wants to increase its ROIC to double digits in the next few years, focusing on core businesses and ensuring non-core businesses become profitable, potentially monetizing certain investments to increase cash flow.In my subjective opinion, BABA’s problem for a long time was precisely the lack of appropriate growth in the cloud segment. While Google (GOOG), Microsoft (MSFT), and Amazon (AMZN), to which BABA is often compared, continue to grow revenue in their cloud business segments at solid double-digit rates, Alibaba's Cloud is stagnating and losing more and more global market share. AI technologies are an excellent growth driver for this niche, but for some reason, BABA's cloud still refuses to grow even though we keep hearing about AI constantly.From the last earnings call, I realized that Alibaba's future growth will be closely linked to 'Value' segments whose growth will heavily depend on the macroeconomic conditions in China after the post-COVID low-base effect disappears, which has not yet fully materialized.YCharts, author's notesGoldman Sach notes in its October report [proprietary source], that slower growth, coupled with policy uncertainty and geopolitical risks, is lowering China's equity market fair value. However, the report suggests that while these factors are already priced in, investment opportunities lie more in alpha themes than broad market beta.China's GDP will most likely stop growing as before. I assume that Alibaba's already high market penetration in various Chinese markets makes the company's growth more variable, which could justify its current low valuation.Goldman Sachs [October 2023] - proprietary sourceYes, it is hard to believe that the current valuation of the company may be fair: BABA looks extremely undervalued with a P/E ratio for next year of ~8.8x and an EV/EBITDA of ~6.7x.Data by YChartsI think we could easily see price increases of 10-20-30% against this backdrop. But most likely these potential 'rips' will be used by hedge funds to exit their positions, as has happened many times before. But even now that there are no \"rips\" in the Chinese market, hedge funds continue to exit their positions.US and European fund managers have sold a net $1.6 billion of Chinese shares so far this month, following $3.5 billion of outflows in September, data from EPFR Global and Morgan Stanley show.Source: Bloomberg [October 19, 2023]I suggest we return to the burning issue - Alibaba's low valuation. Let's think for a moment about what might explain BABA's current cheapness. You might think that BABA's P/E ratio is probably below 10x due to geopolitics and market overreaction. I will answer you that this is true to some extent, but mainly BABA is cheap because there is no growth (almost). If we take the long-term consensus estimates for earnings per share and the implied P/E ratios, we see that BABA is actually valued slightly higher than eBay (EBAY) today:Author's calculations, Seeking Alpha dataBy overpaying just 2x to BABA's long-term P/E ratio of BABA, you can buy MercadoLibre (MELI), whose EPS is estimated to grow more than 8 times faster over the same period (6 years). Could anyone find 'fairness' in the valuation of the two companies?The Bottom LineI understand that when comparing BABA with MELI, I'm doing a little wrong by comparing companies with different business cycles. But I still don't see the point of buying the Chinese giant for 7.57x FY2029 P/E to get a 6-year EPS CAGR of 4.1% when I can buy eBay for 6.64x and get a CAGR of 6.6% (these 2 companies are roughly in the same business cycle).The bullish catalyst, which was supposed to facilitate BABA’s business processes and enable the individual companies to grow faster under conditions of relative independence, has not materialized. Now I expect Alibaba to constrain itself and have relatively modest growth rates for which it makes no sense to overpay and take a big country risk when there are cheaper analogs in the U.S. (and even more so in emerging markets like Brazil).Yes, Alibaba's financial position is very solid as the company continues to recover operationally and continues to buy shares from the market in large quantities. Therefore, I wouldn't be surprised if the company's shares suddenly rebound strongly. However, this potential recovery in stock price will likely provide an opportunity for the remaining investors to get out.Based on the above, I do not recommend investors buy BABA shares, no matter how cheap and promising they may seem at first glance.Thanks for reading!","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":182,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":212705494687848,"gmtCreate":1692969891826,"gmtModify":1692969896756,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Great analysis/insights","listText":"Great analysis/insights","text":"Great 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Yet its track record and early comments indicate that some of these Baby Babas will be more highly prized than others.</p><p>Only Chief Executive Officer Daniel Zhang and Chief Financial Officer Toby Xu spoke on a conference call Thursday, and it lasted just 30 minutes. That none of the new business heads joined to outline their vision was a disappointment.</p><p>What we did learn is that the break up will be immediate. Alibaba’s financial year commences on April 1, Zhang said, which helps explain the timing of the announcement and gives meaning to the word “Holding” in the company’s name. Going forward, it will comprise: Taobao Tmall Commerce, Global Digital Commerce, Local Services, Cainiao Smart Logistics, Cloud Intelligence and Digital Media &amp; Entertainment.</p><p>Taobao Tmall is the only one excluded from the freedom each group will now have to spin off and IPO independently. Taobao is the crown jewel, accounting for 67% of revenue and more than 100% of its operating profit. That latter figure is not a typo; every other business burns money, with Cainiao the smallest loser.</p><h3>A Huge Difference Between Big &amp; Small</h3><p>Alibaba&#39;s children vary greatly in size and contribution, with local commerce the major driver.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b36aea7d3eef956e53b4600fdde21165\" tg-width=\"735\" tg-height=\"448\"/></p><p>Zhang believes the synergies across divisions will remain. This pronouncement seems heartening, on the one hand, yet confusing and unworkable on the other. Alibaba benefits from the ability to send users from its shopping platform to the logistics service, leverage its China business to build an overseas presence, use media and entertainment as a lure for customers, and run it all on a single cloud provider. </p><p>How this can continue once each is independently run will determine the future value of both Alibaba Group and these divisions. Keeping that interconnection will also remain an antitrust risk, a concern that was likely one of the sparks for this breakup in the first place.</p><h3>Alibaba&#39;s One-Hit Wonder</h3><p>Just one division is profitable. Everything else drags on earnings.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/11be256371e559ba59a6481bc90d6076\" tg-width=\"728\" tg-height=\"502\"/></p><p>“There are very stable cooperative relations across businesses, they serve one another, they work together,” Zhang said. All of Alibaba’s businesses are on Alibaba Cloud, for example, “and that’s created a lot of efficiency, including lower cost.” It’s notable that after the split, Zhang will be head of the new Cloud Intelligence business, in addition to his ongoing role atop the group.</p><p>That reliance on cross-company relations ought to serve as a red flag to investors. It’s one thing to benefit from synergistic efficiencies, but it’s altogether another matter if business leaders are then handcuffed to vendors within the group. The Cloud unit lost 4.2 billion yuan ($609 million) in the nine months to Dec. 31. It’s not a stretch to imagine that this business is pricing its services at a favorable rate so that others in the group, such as the loss-making entertainment division, can lower costs. </p><p>Conversely, the cloud unit gets a huge benefit by having the rest of the conglomerate send their business its way, instead of choosing alternative vendors. Investors need to consider what might happen if each group was given the freedom to choose another cloud provider, including from arch rival Tencent Holdings Ltd. If, for example, Alibaba’s cloud service is not priced at a favorable rate then there’d be every incentive to go into the market to shop for a better deal.</p><p>This interconnection may also be skewing the business model and financial results of those smaller units. Taobao Tmall is the cash cow, and everyone else feeds off it in one way or another.</p><p>Like many companies, Alibaba likes to play up non-standard earnings metrics to make the case that some divisions aren’t really losers after all. This is particularly relevant for Alibaba Cloud, where they also present a metric that strips out the cost of share-based compensation and amortization of goodwill. On that basis, the cloud business looks profitable. But let’s not be fooled. Paying employees is not some optional expense that can be removed just because a portion of that compensation is given as shares.</p><p>In fact, a closer look at this single data point reveals just how much Alibaba leans on equity as a way to pay staff while minimizing the drain on cash, a common tactic deployed to lure talent in a particularly competitive sector. Share-based salary stands at around 9% of revenue, compared to just 1.44% for the hugely lucrative Taobao Tmall, which enjoys 30% operating margins. Removing this line item will likely make the future Cloud Intelligence Group cash-flow positive, but that doesn’t mean it’s wildly profitable, or will be anytime soon.</p><h3>Head in the Clouds</h3><p>Alibaba&#39;s Cloud division pays a much higher rate of share-based compensation, an indication that the battle for talent is tougher in this division.</p><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/52263d507ce8246239a5cf7eefc11e24\" tg-width=\"743\" tg-height=\"559\"/></p><p>This break up, if it includes IPOs of individual divisions, makes share-based compensation even more relevant. Employees, who are the key to success in a services business like Alibaba’s, will likely have their salaries more closely tied to the fortunes of the individual unit, rather than the profitable group. If the value of those shares and options fall, then staff may start looking elsewhere.</p><p>The problem will be particularly acute in divisions where equity is a larger part of the pay packet. That then incentivizes the holding company — the controlling shareholder for the foreseeable future — to look favorably upon some divisions at the expense of others. This is common in families with many siblings, but it’s no way to run a business.</p></body></html>","source":"lsy1584095487587","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Even Alibaba Will Have a Favorite Child or Two</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nEven Alibaba Will Have a Favorite Child or Two\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-30 17:06 GMT+8&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-03-30/alibaba-the-split-should-raise-a-red-flag-to-investors><strong>Bloomberg</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Two days after the surprise announcement that it will split into six units, Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. is still not giving much away about how this new business will operate. Yet its track record and ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-03-30/alibaba-the-split-should-raise-a-red-flag-to-investors\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BABA":"阿里巴巴","09988":"阿里巴巴-W"},"source_url":"https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-03-30/alibaba-the-split-should-raise-a-red-flag-to-investors","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1160443789","content_text":"Two days after the surprise announcement that it will split into six units, Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. is still not giving much away about how this new business will operate. Yet its track record and early comments indicate that some of these Baby Babas will be more highly prized than others.Only Chief Executive Officer Daniel Zhang and Chief Financial Officer Toby Xu spoke on a conference call Thursday, and it lasted just 30 minutes. That none of the new business heads joined to outline their vision was a disappointment.What we did learn is that the break up will be immediate. Alibaba’s financial year commences on April 1, Zhang said, which helps explain the timing of the announcement and gives meaning to the word “Holding” in the company’s name. Going forward, it will comprise: Taobao Tmall Commerce, Global Digital Commerce, Local Services, Cainiao Smart Logistics, Cloud Intelligence and Digital Media & Entertainment.Taobao Tmall is the only one excluded from the freedom each group will now have to spin off and IPO independently. Taobao is the crown jewel, accounting for 67% of revenue and more than 100% of its operating profit. That latter figure is not a typo; every other business burns money, with Cainiao the smallest loser.A Huge Difference Between Big & SmallAlibaba's children vary greatly in size and contribution, with local commerce the major driver.Zhang believes the synergies across divisions will remain. This pronouncement seems heartening, on the one hand, yet confusing and unworkable on the other. Alibaba benefits from the ability to send users from its shopping platform to the logistics service, leverage its China business to build an overseas presence, use media and entertainment as a lure for customers, and run it all on a single cloud provider. How this can continue once each is independently run will determine the future value of both Alibaba Group and these divisions. Keeping that interconnection will also remain an antitrust risk, a concern that was likely one of the sparks for this breakup in the first place.Alibaba's One-Hit WonderJust one division is profitable. Everything else drags on earnings.“There are very stable cooperative relations across businesses, they serve one another, they work together,” Zhang said. All of Alibaba’s businesses are on Alibaba Cloud, for example, “and that’s created a lot of efficiency, including lower cost.” It’s notable that after the split, Zhang will be head of the new Cloud Intelligence business, in addition to his ongoing role atop the group.That reliance on cross-company relations ought to serve as a red flag to investors. It’s one thing to benefit from synergistic efficiencies, but it’s altogether another matter if business leaders are then handcuffed to vendors within the group. The Cloud unit lost 4.2 billion yuan ($609 million) in the nine months to Dec. 31. It’s not a stretch to imagine that this business is pricing its services at a favorable rate so that others in the group, such as the loss-making entertainment division, can lower costs. Conversely, the cloud unit gets a huge benefit by having the rest of the conglomerate send their business its way, instead of choosing alternative vendors. Investors need to consider what might happen if each group was given the freedom to choose another cloud provider, including from arch rival Tencent Holdings Ltd. If, for example, Alibaba’s cloud service is not priced at a favorable rate then there’d be every incentive to go into the market to shop for a better deal.This interconnection may also be skewing the business model and financial results of those smaller units. Taobao Tmall is the cash cow, and everyone else feeds off it in one way or another.Like many companies, Alibaba likes to play up non-standard earnings metrics to make the case that some divisions aren’t really losers after all. This is particularly relevant for Alibaba Cloud, where they also present a metric that strips out the cost of share-based compensation and amortization of goodwill. On that basis, the cloud business looks profitable. But let’s not be fooled. Paying employees is not some optional expense that can be removed just because a portion of that compensation is given as shares.In fact, a closer look at this single data point reveals just how much Alibaba leans on equity as a way to pay staff while minimizing the drain on cash, a common tactic deployed to lure talent in a particularly competitive sector. Share-based salary stands at around 9% of revenue, compared to just 1.44% for the hugely lucrative Taobao Tmall, which enjoys 30% operating margins. Removing this line item will likely make the future Cloud Intelligence Group cash-flow positive, but that doesn’t mean it’s wildly profitable, or will be anytime soon.Head in the CloudsAlibaba's Cloud division pays a much higher rate of share-based compensation, an indication that the battle for talent is tougher in this division.This break up, if it includes IPOs of individual divisions, makes share-based compensation even more relevant. Employees, who are the key to success in a services business like Alibaba’s, will likely have their salaries more closely tied to the fortunes of the individual unit, rather than the profitable group. If the value of those shares and options fall, then staff may start looking elsewhere.The problem will be particularly acute in divisions where equity is a larger part of the pay packet. That then incentivizes the holding company — the controlling shareholder for the foreseeable future — to look favorably upon some divisions at the expense of others. This is common in families with many siblings, but it’s no way to run a business.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":319,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":201720260976720,"gmtCreate":1690256735131,"gmtModify":1690271390216,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/09988\">$Alibaba(09988)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"1\"></v-v> Atleast now it's above my avg of hkd 89. Stop loss placed at 93 for half of the holdings....just to be on d safe side.🤞✌️ Other half is for long term...","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/09988\">$Alibaba(09988)$&nbsp;</a><v-v data-views=\"1\"></v-v> Atleast now it's above my avg of hkd 89. Stop loss placed at 93 for half of the holdings....just to be on d safe side.🤞✌️ Other half is for long term...","text":"$Alibaba(09988)$ Atleast now it's above my avg of hkd 89. Stop loss placed at 93 for half of the holdings....just to be on d safe side.🤞✌️ Other half is for long term...","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/201720260976720","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":349,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":184700192100512,"gmtCreate":1686117207695,"gmtModify":1686117211537,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Trio local banks are&nbsp;Good for dividend play....","listText":"Trio local banks are&nbsp;Good for dividend play....","text":"Trio local banks are Good for dividend 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and 8.9%, respectively.</p><p>Only <strong>OCBC Ltd</strong> (SGX: O39) has eked out a small year-to-date gain of 0.7%.</p><p>Investors are feeling jittery about the prospects for these blue-chip lenders as the economic outlook darkens, raising fears of a punishing recession.</p><p>The US Federal Reserve may also be pausing its aggressive rate hikes soon.</p><p>Interest rates may finally be stabilising after rising at their sharpest pace in history.</p><p>However, inflation remains elevated in both the US and Singapore, adding another headwind to the banks’ operating costs.</p><p>Are the local banks facing a perfect storm of negative events that may cause their earnings to plunge? </p><p>Let’s dig deeper to find out.</p><h2>The fading interest rate tailwind</h2><p>The three lenders enjoyed a strong boost to their net interest income (NII) as the net interest margin (NIM) soared in tandem with the rise in interest rates.</p><p>For its recent 2023 first quarter (1Q 2023) earnings, DBS saw NII surge by 69% year on year with its NIM hitting 2.12%, up significantly from 1Q 2022’s 1.46%.</p><p>UOB’s NII jumped 43% year on year while its NIM came in at 2.14%, up from 1.58% a year ago.</p><p>OCBC’s NII soared by 56% year on year along with a sharp jump in NIM from 1.55% to 2.3% in 1Q 2023.</p><p>The US Federal Reserve does not seem to be done with its interest rate hikes, as chairman Jerome Powell juggles between raising rates further and possibly triggering a recession.</p><p>The current consensus is that the central bank may skip an interest rate increase later this month but that the officials are not done yet with the increases as they assess more incoming economic data.</p><p>Whatever the final decision, the trio of banks are unlikely to enjoy the same surge in NIM as in 1Q 2023.</p><p>One reason is that the pace of interest rate hikes is now slowing as the Federal Funds Rate is now hovering in the range of 5% and 5.25%.</p><p>Further rate hikes may bring on more pain to consumers and businesses and the central bank needs to carefully calibrate its policy.</p><p>The Federal Reserve is also carefully assessing the impact of higher rates after several bank runs that led to the collapse of four US lenders.</p><p>Moreover, the Singapore banks have also seen mortgage rates decline due to competition and are also poised to further lower them.</p><p>On the other hand, fixed deposit rates have hovered between the 3% to 4% range for all three banks, raising their cost of deposits as they attract savers keen to park their money for better returns.</p><p>Hence, it is likely that NIMs have peaked or are close to peaking and will stabilise from the second quarter onwards.</p><p>Investors may not see the same NII surge witnessed in 1Q 2023 but the overall higher NIM should still ensure NII remains at current levels.</p><h2>An uncertain economic outlook</h2><p>The second worry is that banks may face an increased level of bad and doubtful loans if the economy weakens or falls into a recession.</p><p>On this front, the US has reported a strong jobs report for May, thus lowering the odds of a recession in the next 12 months.</p><p>However, several economists think that Singapore may be unable to avoid a recession as the country’s gross domestic product (GDP) comes from external trade.</p><p>Elsewhere, the Ministry of Trade and Industry (MTI) expects GDP to expand by 0.5% to 2.5% in 2023 and believes that the economy can avoid a technical recession because of the ongoing recovery in travel and tourism-related sectors.</p><p>The jury is out for now, but it appears that China’s reopening may also add a spark of growth to Singapore’s numbers.</p><p>DBS has strengthened its general provisions as a prudent measure while UOB remains confident of Asia’s growth.</p><p>The good news is that all three banks are no strangers to economic cycles and have positioned themselves well to tackle such challenges.</p><h2>Get Smart: Resilient and well-prepared</h2><p>If there are two adjectives to describe all three lenders, they are “resilient” and “prepared”.</p><p>Their 1Q 2023 commentary shows that they are aware that the NIM tailwind is temporary, while also positioning themselves for potential economic headwinds.</p><p>A storm may eventually arrive.</p><p>But the three banks will stand ready and should not falter even when the going gets tough.</p><p></p></body></html>","source":"thesmartinvestor_highlight","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Interest Rates Are Stabilising While the Economic Outlook is Cloudy: Are Singapore Banks Facing a Perfect Storm?</title>\n<style 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small year-to-date gain of 0.7%.Investors are feeling jittery about the prospects for these blue-chip lenders as the economic outlook darkens, raising fears of a punishing recession.The US Federal Reserve may also be pausing its aggressive rate hikes soon.Interest rates may finally be stabilising after rising at their sharpest pace in history.However, inflation remains elevated in both the US and Singapore, adding another headwind to the banks’ operating costs.Are the local banks facing a perfect storm of negative events that may cause their earnings to plunge? Let’s dig deeper to find out.The fading interest rate tailwindThe three lenders enjoyed a strong boost to their net interest income (NII) as the net interest margin (NIM) soared in tandem with the rise in interest rates.For its recent 2023 first quarter (1Q 2023) earnings, DBS saw NII surge by 69% year on year with its NIM hitting 2.12%, up significantly from 1Q 2022’s 1.46%.UOB’s NII jumped 43% year on year while its NIM came in at 2.14%, up from 1.58% a year ago.OCBC’s NII soared by 56% year on year along with a sharp jump in NIM from 1.55% to 2.3% in 1Q 2023.The US Federal Reserve does not seem to be done with its interest rate hikes, as chairman Jerome Powell juggles between raising rates further and possibly triggering a recession.The current consensus is that the central bank may skip an interest rate increase later this month but that the officials are not done yet with the increases as they assess more incoming economic data.Whatever the final decision, the trio of banks are unlikely to enjoy the same surge in NIM as in 1Q 2023.One reason is that the pace of interest rate hikes is now slowing as the Federal Funds Rate is now hovering in the range of 5% and 5.25%.Further rate hikes may bring on more pain to consumers and businesses and the central bank needs to carefully calibrate its policy.The Federal Reserve is also carefully assessing the impact of higher rates after several bank runs that led to the collapse of four US lenders.Moreover, the Singapore banks have also seen mortgage rates decline due to competition and are also poised to further lower them.On the other hand, fixed deposit rates have hovered between the 3% to 4% range for all three banks, raising their cost of deposits as they attract savers keen to park their money for better returns.Hence, it is likely that NIMs have peaked or are close to peaking and will stabilise from the second quarter onwards.Investors may not see the same NII surge witnessed in 1Q 2023 but the overall higher NIM should still ensure NII remains at current levels.An uncertain economic outlookThe second worry is that banks may face an increased level of bad and doubtful loans if the economy weakens or falls into a recession.On this front, the US has reported a strong jobs report for May, thus lowering the odds of a recession in the next 12 months.However, several economists think that Singapore may be unable to avoid a recession as the country’s gross domestic product (GDP) comes from external trade.Elsewhere, the Ministry of Trade and Industry (MTI) expects GDP to expand by 0.5% to 2.5% in 2023 and believes that the economy can avoid a technical recession because of the ongoing recovery in travel and tourism-related sectors.The jury is out for now, but it appears that China’s reopening may also add a spark of growth to Singapore’s numbers.DBS has strengthened its general provisions as a prudent measure while UOB remains confident of Asia’s growth.The good news is that all three banks are no strangers to economic cycles and have positioned themselves well to tackle such challenges.Get Smart: Resilient and well-preparedIf there are two adjectives to describe all three lenders, they are “resilient” and “prepared”.Their 1Q 2023 commentary shows that they are aware that the NIM tailwind is temporary, while also positioning themselves for potential economic headwinds.A storm may eventually arrive.But the three banks will 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$13ish.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/276094750838968","repostId":"2412617126","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2412617126","pubTimestamp":1708429449,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2412617126?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-02-20 19:44","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir: A Solid Blend Of Growing Customer Base And Pricing Power","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2412617126","media":"seekingalpha","summary":"Palantir has revolutionized deep analytical tools for governmental organizations and is expanding into the commercial market, leading to impressive revenue growth and profitability.The company's stron","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Palantir has revolutionized deep analytical tools for governmental organizations and is expanding into the commercial market, leading to impressive revenue growth and profitability.</p></li><li><p>The company&#39;s strong financial position and clean balance sheet provide flexibility for investment opportunities and attract favorable debt finance.</p></li><li><p>Despite the recent stock price rally, PLTR still trades below its early 2021 all-time high, presenting a 22% upside potential according to a valuation analysis.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ca0459f275b9aed733014624cae2dc80\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/></p><p>Michael Vi/iStock Editorial via Getty Images</p><h2 id=\"id_2347832484\">Introduction</h2><p>In my opinion, Palantir has the whole set of qualities that were inherent to the current technological hyper scalers when they were at a similar stage of development. Palantir has revolutionized the field of deep analytical tools for governmental organizations and is now swiftly expanding into the commercial market. This allows PLTR to demonstrate impressive revenue growth by increasing its customer base and exercising pricing power via cross-selling. The exceptional profitability is reinvested into enhancing the company&#39;s offerings, fostering a continuous cycle of improvement that distinguishes Palantir and attracts new customers. This creates a snowball effect, wherein the company&#39;s enhanced capabilities and reputation further fuel its growth and market dominance. Additionally, my valuation analysis suggests there is a 22% upside potential for PLTR, reinforcing my belief that it merits a &#34;Strong Buy&#34; rating.</p><h2 id=\"id_1336216092\">Fundamental analysis</h2><p>Palantir is a software company that aims to empower organizations to integrate their data, decisions, and operations at scale effectively. According to PLTR&#39;s 10-Q form, there are three principal software platforms: Gotham, Foundry, and Apollo. Palantir serves a diverse range of clients, encompassing both governmental bodies and commercial enterprises. Its first large contracts were with the Pentagon.</p><p>According to the latest earnings presentation, the company had 497 customers, out of which 375 were commercial customers. In the screenshot below, we can see that the growth of commercial customers has been the major growth driver in recent quarters. It is also quite important to underline that Palantir&#39;s commercial business is in the very early stages of development because a total of 375 customers since there are more than 1,500 public companies only in the U.S. with annual revenue exceeding $1 billion, which are large enterprises and highly likely can afford advanced tools from Palantir. Therefore, Palantir still has vast room to expand its commercial business in the U.S., not to mention international expansion opportunities.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c12e8dca2131bf7530e2943f05d1cd7c\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"298\"/></p><p>Palantir</p><p>In my opinion, the consistent growth in customer count underscores the high appeal of the company&#39;s offerings. The expanding customer base allowed Palantir to improve its revenue side of the P&amp;L substantially, which looks like a straight line, quite an impressive dynamic. Wall Street analysts are quite optimistic about the company&#39;s revenue growth prospects for the next decade, expecting it to compound at double digits consistently.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d9881b9fd4ce031c4e3fb5f7b97a5985\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"424\"/></p><p>Data by YCharts</p><p>The multiplicative effect for revenue growth is achieved not only with the help of the number of contracts with customers but also with improving the quality of these contracts, i.e., the improved revenue per customer in strong dynamics in billings. The ability to expand average revenue per customer is a solid strength of the business model, meaning it provides Palantir with opportunities to cross-sell its services. The ability to involve more offerings sold to a single customer means increased switching costs for them, which will likely help Palantir to sustain its stellar 108% net dollar retention rate demonstrated in Q4 2023, according to the latest earnings presentation.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/70aed4926ce46bd3bbc3cfd35b9a9c1a\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"295\"/></p><p>Palantir</p><p>It is obvious that there are two primary variables that drive revenue: volume/contract count and price/revenue per contract. Since Palantir demonstrates strength from both sides of the revenue equation, I think this is solid evidence that the company is able to sustain its revenue growth pace for longer.</p><p>Delivering impressive revenue growth is crucial for young technological companies like Palantir, but the ability to rapidly improve profitability metrics is something that separates genuinely great companies from just good companies. From the perspective of the profitability metrics dynamics, Palantir looks like it has the potential to become a great company. The EBITDA and operating margin are demonstrating very promising dynamics and give high conviction that as the revenue expands, profitability metrics are highly likely to follow further. That is another big positive sign for PLTR potential investors.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1583194c64c28cc7418e54a390873003\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"439\"/></p><p>Data by YCharts</p><p>Last but not least, Palantir is in a strong financial position, with an above $3 billion cash position and only $236 million in total debt. Being in this position means that Palantir&#39;s management is able to exercise very solid financial flexibility in case attractive investment opportunities emerge. Having a clean balance sheet like Palantir&#39;s does not only mean that the company can utilize its cash position to invest in new ventures, but is also likely to attract debt finance on favorable terms. While the strong balance sheet is not a positive catalyst itself, it opens a wide window for potential new growth opportunities.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4478f183598e90ba144aff3971759fed\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"606\"/></p><p>In conclusion, I am confident that Palantir possesses a comprehensive array of strengths poised to generate value for shareholders over the long term. The company&#39;s rapid customer base expansion, coupled with its ability to boost revenue per customer, presents robust revenue growth prospects. Moreover, its high net dollar retention rates and cross-selling opportunities are expected to contribute to further improvement in the cost of revenue.</p><h2 id=\"id_822613994\">Valuation analysis</h2><p>Despite the stock price having more than tripled from May 2023 lows, PLTR still trades substantially below its early 2021 all-time high. The momentum is strong, with the stock rallying by more than 50% over the last six months. The recent rally has led valuation ratios to spike, with the forward P/E ratio at around 169. However, ratios are rarely a good metric to use to assess the valuation of growth companies.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0cf388eb7190b505b25bf74bcec5aecc\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"274\"/></p><p>SA</p><p>To check whether a staggering 169 P/E ratio is reasonable, I need to run the discounted cash flow (&#34;DCF&#34;) model. Future cash flows will be discounted at an 11% WACC. Given the many Wall Street analysts covering PLTR for the upcoming two years, I take revenue consensus estimates for FY 2024-2025. For years after 2025, I expect a natural 50 basis points revenue growth deceleration. To derive the free cash flow (&#34;FCF&#34;) for the base year, I multiply revenue by the TTM 29.64% levered FCF margin. For subsequent years, I projected a levered FCF margin expansion by one percentage point yearly. Considering all the company&#39;s strengths and secular tailwinds in place, I project a very ambitious 9% constant growth rate for the terminal value (&#34;TV&#34;) calculation. There are 2.16 billion PLTR shares outstanding at the moment.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cc501503562a68f66a1e7fc6818f167b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"306\"/></p><p>Calculated by the author</p><p>As my DCF model suggests, PLTR stock&#39;s fair price is $29.74, and I would prefer to round it up to $30. Therefore, there is around 22% upside potential for PLTR, and I consider this attractive.</p><h2 id=\"id_1847820832\">Mitigating factors</h2><p>As we have seen in the previous section, there are numerous assumptions that form the fair value of a growth stock. Out of the PLTR&#39;s total cumulative $64 billion DCF, almost $60 billion is represented by the terminal value. That said, if the company demonstrates a notable deceleration of revenue growth compared to consensus estimates, this might lead to a compression of valuation. For instance, dropping the constant growth rate by just 100 basis points decreases the estimated fair share price from $30 to $20.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/258c13f802068725a3a8add10359f598\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"308\"/></p><p>Calculated by the author</p><p>There are several factors that could potentially hinder PLTR&#39;s revenue growth trajectory. Chief among these is the rapidly evolving technological landscape, which presents a significant risk to Palantir&#39;s future revenue growth. The emergence of new disruptive technologies capable of addressing the same problems as Palantir&#39;s offerings, but in a more efficient manner, could result in a loss of market share for the company, thereby constraining its growth prospects.</p><p>Moreover, as a software company, Palantir stores a substantial amount of sensitive information belonging to both itself and its clients. Any breach or leakage of cybersecurity could severely damage Palantir&#39;s reputation and erode customer trust. This could prompt clients to seek alternative solutions that offer greater security, even if they provide less sophisticated analytical capabilities. Protecting sensitive information is paramount for clients, as any compromise could lead to reputational damage and loss of trust among their own customers. Therefore, maintaining robust cybersecurity measures is crucial for Palantir to safeguard its revenue streams and sustain its growth trajectory.</p><p>Another potential risk to Palantir&#39;s future financial performance is the uncertainty regarding regulations for the AI-powered tools. There is a significant public discussion at the moment regarding the regulation of advanced tools powered by AI. While AI presents promising opportunities to enhance efficiency across various domains, it also brings significant risks, such as job displacement, concerns regarding the reliability of AI-generated content, and legal implications. If stringent regulations are imposed on AI-powered tools, Palantir could face adverse outcomes. New potential rules may not only disrupt revenue growth potential but also boost compliance costs due to heightened regulatory scrutiny.</p><h2 id=\"id_308351130\">Conclusion</h2><p>I think that the company&#39;s superior performance makes it a good option for investors seeking a growth superstar. The 22% undervaluation looks like a &#34;Strong Buy&#34; signal in my opinion, especially given the strong momentum of the improvement of the company&#39;s financial performance in recent quarters.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir: A Solid Blend Of Growing Customer Base And Pricing Power</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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Palantir has revolutionized the field of deep analytical tools for governmental organizations and is now swiftly expanding into the commercial market. This allows PLTR to demonstrate impressive revenue growth by increasing its customer base and exercising pricing power via cross-selling. The exceptional profitability is reinvested into enhancing the company's offerings, fostering a continuous cycle of improvement that distinguishes Palantir and attracts new customers. This creates a snowball effect, wherein the company's enhanced capabilities and reputation further fuel its growth and market dominance. Additionally, my valuation analysis suggests there is a 22% upside potential for PLTR, reinforcing my belief that it merits a \"Strong Buy\" rating.Fundamental analysisPalantir is a software company that aims to empower organizations to integrate their data, decisions, and operations at scale effectively. According to PLTR's 10-Q form, there are three principal software platforms: Gotham, Foundry, and Apollo. Palantir serves a diverse range of clients, encompassing both governmental bodies and commercial enterprises. Its first large contracts were with the Pentagon.According to the latest earnings presentation, the company had 497 customers, out of which 375 were commercial customers. In the screenshot below, we can see that the growth of commercial customers has been the major growth driver in recent quarters. It is also quite important to underline that Palantir's commercial business is in the very early stages of development because a total of 375 customers since there are more than 1,500 public companies only in the U.S. with annual revenue exceeding $1 billion, which are large enterprises and highly likely can afford advanced tools from Palantir. Therefore, Palantir still has vast room to expand its commercial business in the U.S., not to mention international expansion opportunities.PalantirIn my opinion, the consistent growth in customer count underscores the high appeal of the company's offerings. The expanding customer base allowed Palantir to improve its revenue side of the P&L substantially, which looks like a straight line, quite an impressive dynamic. Wall Street analysts are quite optimistic about the company's revenue growth prospects for the next decade, expecting it to compound at double digits consistently.Data by YChartsThe multiplicative effect for revenue growth is achieved not only with the help of the number of contracts with customers but also with improving the quality of these contracts, i.e., the improved revenue per customer in strong dynamics in billings. The ability to expand average revenue per customer is a solid strength of the business model, meaning it provides Palantir with opportunities to cross-sell its services. The ability to involve more offerings sold to a single customer means increased switching costs for them, which will likely help Palantir to sustain its stellar 108% net dollar retention rate demonstrated in Q4 2023, according to the latest earnings presentation.PalantirIt is obvious that there are two primary variables that drive revenue: volume/contract count and price/revenue per contract. Since Palantir demonstrates strength from both sides of the revenue equation, I think this is solid evidence that the company is able to sustain its revenue growth pace for longer.Delivering impressive revenue growth is crucial for young technological companies like Palantir, but the ability to rapidly improve profitability metrics is something that separates genuinely great companies from just good companies. From the perspective of the profitability metrics dynamics, Palantir looks like it has the potential to become a great company. The EBITDA and operating margin are demonstrating very promising dynamics and give high conviction that as the revenue expands, profitability metrics are highly likely to follow further. That is another big positive sign for PLTR potential investors.Data by YChartsLast but not least, Palantir is in a strong financial position, with an above $3 billion cash position and only $236 million in total debt. Being in this position means that Palantir's management is able to exercise very solid financial flexibility in case attractive investment opportunities emerge. Having a clean balance sheet like Palantir's does not only mean that the company can utilize its cash position to invest in new ventures, but is also likely to attract debt finance on favorable terms. While the strong balance sheet is not a positive catalyst itself, it opens a wide window for potential new growth opportunities.In conclusion, I am confident that Palantir possesses a comprehensive array of strengths poised to generate value for shareholders over the long term. The company's rapid customer base expansion, coupled with its ability to boost revenue per customer, presents robust revenue growth prospects. Moreover, its high net dollar retention rates and cross-selling opportunities are expected to contribute to further improvement in the cost of revenue.Valuation analysisDespite the stock price having more than tripled from May 2023 lows, PLTR still trades substantially below its early 2021 all-time high. The momentum is strong, with the stock rallying by more than 50% over the last six months. The recent rally has led valuation ratios to spike, with the forward P/E ratio at around 169. However, ratios are rarely a good metric to use to assess the valuation of growth companies.SATo check whether a staggering 169 P/E ratio is reasonable, I need to run the discounted cash flow (\"DCF\") model. Future cash flows will be discounted at an 11% WACC. Given the many Wall Street analysts covering PLTR for the upcoming two years, I take revenue consensus estimates for FY 2024-2025. For years after 2025, I expect a natural 50 basis points revenue growth deceleration. To derive the free cash flow (\"FCF\") for the base year, I multiply revenue by the TTM 29.64% levered FCF margin. For subsequent years, I projected a levered FCF margin expansion by one percentage point yearly. Considering all the company's strengths and secular tailwinds in place, I project a very ambitious 9% constant growth rate for the terminal value (\"TV\") calculation. There are 2.16 billion PLTR shares outstanding at the moment.Calculated by the authorAs my DCF model suggests, PLTR stock's fair price is $29.74, and I would prefer to round it up to $30. Therefore, there is around 22% upside potential for PLTR, and I consider this attractive.Mitigating factorsAs we have seen in the previous section, there are numerous assumptions that form the fair value of a growth stock. Out of the PLTR's total cumulative $64 billion DCF, almost $60 billion is represented by the terminal value. That said, if the company demonstrates a notable deceleration of revenue growth compared to consensus estimates, this might lead to a compression of valuation. For instance, dropping the constant growth rate by just 100 basis points decreases the estimated fair share price from $30 to $20.Calculated by the authorThere are several factors that could potentially hinder PLTR's revenue growth trajectory. Chief among these is the rapidly evolving technological landscape, which presents a significant risk to Palantir's future revenue growth. The emergence of new disruptive technologies capable of addressing the same problems as Palantir's offerings, but in a more efficient manner, could result in a loss of market share for the company, thereby constraining its growth prospects.Moreover, as a software company, Palantir stores a substantial amount of sensitive information belonging to both itself and its clients. Any breach or leakage of cybersecurity could severely damage Palantir's reputation and erode customer trust. This could prompt clients to seek alternative solutions that offer greater security, even if they provide less sophisticated analytical capabilities. Protecting sensitive information is paramount for clients, as any compromise could lead to reputational damage and loss of trust among their own customers. Therefore, maintaining robust cybersecurity measures is crucial for Palantir to safeguard its revenue streams and sustain its growth trajectory.Another potential risk to Palantir's future financial performance is the uncertainty regarding regulations for the AI-powered tools. There is a significant public discussion at the moment regarding the regulation of advanced tools powered by AI. While AI presents promising opportunities to enhance efficiency across various domains, it also brings significant risks, such as job displacement, concerns regarding the reliability of AI-generated content, and legal implications. If stringent regulations are imposed on AI-powered tools, Palantir could face adverse outcomes. New potential rules may not only disrupt revenue growth potential but also boost compliance costs due to heightened regulatory scrutiny.ConclusionI think that the company's superior performance makes it a good option for investors seeking a growth superstar. The 22% undervaluation looks like a \"Strong Buy\" signal in my opinion, especially given the strong momentum of the improvement of the company's financial performance in recent quarters.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":234,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":244532142936256,"gmtCreate":1700724141508,"gmtModify":1700724146102,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Sounds good....👍","listText":"Sounds good....👍","text":"Sounds good....👍","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/244532142936256","repostId":"2385466779","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2385466779","pubTimestamp":1700722800,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2385466779?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-11-23 15:00","market":"hk","language":"en","title":"Alibaba Is Hugely Undervalued?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2385466779","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"Alibaba Group Holding Limited offers a compelling investment opportunity with a diversified portfolio spanning e-commerce, cloud services, logistics, and digital media, providing resilience in a dynam","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p>Alibaba Group Holding Limited offers a compelling investment opportunity with a diversified portfolio spanning e-commerce, cloud services, logistics, and digital media, providing resilience in a dynamic market.</p></li><li><p>Despite recent challenges and regulatory uncertainties, Alibaba&#39;s strategic segments, both domestically and internationally, showcase robust growth potential, emphasizing the company&#39;s adaptability and innovation.</p></li><li><p>The recent stock pullback, coupled with an undervaluation that could be as high as 161.9%, presents an attractive entry point for investors looking to capitalize on Alibaba&#39;s long-term growth prospects.</p></li><li><p>Investors must remain vigilant to potential risks, including governmental influence, economic downturns, and competition from foreign players, acknowledging the nuanced balance between Alibaba&#39;s strengths and external factors.</p></li><li><p>Alibaba&#39;s solid financial foundation, diversified revenue streams, and strategic positioning position it favorably for long-term growth, making it a promising investment choice.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/84b6aeab08dc480ef3a214462aadfcfd\" title=\"Robert Way\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/><span>Robert Way</span></p><h2 id=\"id_522885472\">Thesis</h2><p>After the release of FQ2 2024, <strong>Alibaba Group Holding Limited</strong> (NYSE:BABA) experienced a 10% decline as the company fell short of revenue expectations by $250 million, despite EPS estimates. Additionally, the company abandoned its plans to spin off its cloud business, citing uncertainties in the growth trajectory caused by the U.S.-imposed restrictions on AI chip imports.</p><p>Nevertheless, in this article, I will elucidate using two valuation models why Alibaba is significantly undervalued, marking an undervaluation of up to 80%. This substantial undervaluation provides a considerable margin of security for investors, warranting a &#34;strong buy&#34; recommendation. I propose a fair price of $148.1 for the stock.</p><h2 id=\"id_1987249582\">Overview</h2><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/081c2dd239fb542c7136a40c1b6c2ad1\" alt=\"FQ2 2024 Alibaba\" title=\"FQ2 2024 Alibaba\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"133\"/><span>FQ2 2024 Alibaba</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e6bb4b66323db07420db79ea50a4c420\" alt=\"FY 2023\" title=\"FY 2023\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"417\"/><span>FY 2023</span></p><h3 id=\"id_3914187007\">Q2 2024 Earnings</h3><p>In FQ2 2024, Alibaba outperformed expectations in earnings but fell short on revenue, with a notable miss of $230 million. Despite this, the company reported an impressive EPS of $2.14, surpassing the consensus by $0.05.</p><p>The most significant blow to these earnings results came as Alibaba opted to abandon its plan to spin off its cloud business. The rationale behind this decision was a belief that the spin-off would not deliver the anticipated shareholder value. Furthermore, the company pointed to the current export restrictions on AI chips imposed by the U.S., which has cast uncertainty over the prospects of its cloud segment.</p><p>Adding to the challenges, Alibaba disclosed that Jack Ma&#39;s family trust intends to sell 10 million shares valued at $870.71 million on November 21.</p><h3 id=\"id_2851468396\">Market</h3><h4 id=\"id_4264278908\">E-Commerce China</h4><p>Alibaba&#39;s primary focus lies in e-commerce, as illustrated in the table below, with a significant dependency on China, representing 67% of this segment. However, since 2021, Alibaba has successfully reduced its reliance on the Chinese market by 3%.</p><p>In addition to its Chinese and international e-commerce segments, Alibaba operates in the &#34;wholesale&#34; segment. This facet involves collaboration with Chinese factories, functioning in a producer-to-consumer model. Notably, the cost per unit decreases with higher purchase quantities.</p><p>Projections indicate an anticipated growth rate of 8.21% for the Chinese e-commerce market throughout 2027. In contrast, the global e-commerce market is expected to experience a more robust growth rate of approximately 15% by 2032.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cb5ffc078e262abf6dae01b3008e5789\" alt=\"Statista\" title=\"Statista\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"340\"/><span>Statista</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fa869592dad3d103e32094e603a07313\" alt=\"Precedence Research\" title=\"Precedence Research\" tg-width=\"1000\" tg-height=\"592\"/><span>Precedence Research</span></p><h4 id=\"id_21983917\">Local Consumer Services</h4><p>The Local Consumer Services segment of Alibaba encompasses a range of diverse services designed to cater to various consumer needs. Among these services are Ele.me, a prominent on-demand delivery platform, Amap, providing digital mapping services along with real-time traffic information, Fliggy, an online travel platform, and Taoxianda, a platform aiding retailers in establishing and managing online stores.</p><h4 id=\"id_2699114686\">Cainiao - Platform Delivery China</h4><p>Cainiao, a company 70% owned by Alibaba following its acquisition of the majority stake in 2017, specializes in logistics. Serving as a crucial complement to Alibaba&#39;s e-commerce operations in China, Cainiao plays a pivotal role in ensuring timely deliveries within China, often achieving the impressive feat of completing deliveries in less than 24 hours.</p><p>Notably, the platform delivery segment has experienced recent growth, propelled by the surge in e-commerce sales. Projections indicate a continued growth rate of 5.15% for this market throughout 2027.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bd03ba9b4a58c40599efe510d0bd95e0\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations with base on Statista\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations with base on Statista\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"385\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations with base on Statista</span></p><h4 id=\"id_2806472205\">Cloud - China</h4><p>Alibaba also boasts a formidable presence in the cloud segment, initially slated for a significant spinoff as part of a major strategic plan. This move garnered widespread acclaim from investors, given the robust prospects of the cloud market in China. Projections estimate a noteworthy growth rate of 20.44%, and the autonomy of an independent Alibaba Cloud company is anticipated to drive rapid revenue expansion and robust cash-flow growth, particularly considering the high profitability associated with cloud services.</p><p>Notably, the projected growth rate of 20.44% for the Chinese cloud market closely aligns with the impressive revenue growth that Alibaba has consistently demonstrated within its cloud segment.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2c83a9ff7534361801c44c57f6842844\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations with base on Statista\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations with base on Statista\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"385\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations with base on Statista</span></p><h4 id=\"id_1524553402\">Digital Media &amp; Entertainment - China</h4><p>The final segment in Alibaba&#39;s diverse portfolio is Digital Media and Entertainment, featuring key components such as Youku, a prominent video platform, and Alibaba Pictures, which encompasses intellectual property, licensing, and cinema ticketing management for the movie industry. Additionally, the company provides other content platforms and engages in the online gaming sector.</p><p>Projections for the digital media market in China are optimistic, with an expected growth rate of 10.88%. This growth is anticipated to be fueled by the increasing revenue per user, projected to experience a substantial uptick of 7.6% from 2023 to 2027.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/68b6148617c06e49a88276236a24288e\" alt=\"Statista\" title=\"Statista\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"402\"/><span>Statista</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d15ed857ad6619ed880668554372e704\" alt=\"Statista\" title=\"Statista\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"378\"/><span>Statista</span></p><h2 id=\"id_3984174781\">Financial</h2><p>Alibaba has demonstrated remarkable revenue growth over the past six years. Since FY2018, the company has achieved an annual revenue growth rate of 35.68%. However, in a recent development, Alibaba experienced its first decline in revenue, with a year-over-year reduction of 5.97%.</p><p>What stands out is the company&#39;s ability to consistently grow its net income, a crucial factor influencing a discounted cash flow (&#34;DCF&#34;) model. The net income has grown at a commendable annual rate of 15.57%, currently standing at $18.16 billion, though below the 2021 all-time high of $22.98 billion.</p><p>In terms of margins, a noticeable downward trend is observed in both operating margin and net income margin. In FY2018, these metrics were above 25%, with the operating margin at 28.21% and the net income margin at 25.61%. As of the latest earnings release, both metrics have decreased to 14.66% and 14.50%, respectively.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/960c6966b32c3d6338927f89928133eb\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"384\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c879d4d20ebba8a4b090bf207e7fdaa6\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"389\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations</span></p><p>Alibaba&#39;s financial foundation appears robust, with a substantial cash reserve of $78.66 billion and a comparatively low debt burden. Long-term debt stands at $21.71 billion, while short-term debt is at $5.4 billion.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/29d34db56f2ac763355ca3f8ce4693ef\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"391\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations</span></p><p>Despite the overall positive financial outlook, Alibaba&#39;s free cash flow has experienced annual growth of 9.38%. The free cash flow margin, however, has seen a significant decrease from FY2018&#39;s 36.6% to the current level of 18.2%. This indicates a potential decrease in efficiency, and Alibaba attributes this shift to the presence of project-based contracts, which inherently have lower margins. The company is actively working to reduce the impact of these contracts to enhance overall margins.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/bd64025d13a547be8d4e59fe5383e405\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"461\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/b5ab121ecbf172e600e9baf213607a57\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"476\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations</span></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1e791c46f8ca163f7aa30e11f9d6c939\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"358\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations</span></p><h2 id=\"id_3734509088\">Valuation</h2><p>In this valuation of Alibaba, I will employ two distinct models: the first relies on analysts&#39; estimates for revenue and net income, while the second model involves my own estimates formulated from scratch. These estimates are based on the anticipated growth rates within the markets of each of Alibaba&#39;s operating segments.</p><p>The table below outlines the assumptions integral to calculating Alibaba&#39;s fair stock price. Notably, D&amp;A, interest expenses, and CapEx will be computed using margins tied to revenue.</p><p>Ultimately, the WACC will be derived from variables such as equity value, debt value, and the cost of debt, utilizing the widely recognized formula.</p><p>For FY2023 and FY2024, analysts anticipate revenues of $133.3 billion and $145.93 billion, respectively. Subsequently, for FY2026-2029, I will apply an expected forward revenue growth rate of 4.87%.</p><table style=\"border-collapse:collapse;\"><colgroup><col/><col/></colgroup><tbody><tr><td colspan=\"2\" style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>TABLE OF ASSUMPTIONS</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>(Current data)</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Assumptions Part 1</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Equity Value</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>141,772.60</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Debt Value</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>27,182.30</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Cost of Debt</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>3.49%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Tax Rate</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>12.76%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>10y Treasury</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>4.80%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Beta</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>0.89</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Market Return</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>10.50%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Cost of Equity</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>9.87%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Assumptions Part 2</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>CapEx</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>4,702.10</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Capex Margin</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>3.75%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Net Income</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>18,168.20</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Interest</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>948.40</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Tax</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>2,656.80</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>D&amp;A</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>6,245.60</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Ebitda</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>28,019.00</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>D&amp;A Margin</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>4.98%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Interest Expense Margin</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>0.76%</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Revenue</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>125,311.9</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p></p><h3 id=\"id_56021089\">Analysts&#39; Estimates</h3><p>For FY2023 and FY2024, analysts are anticipating revenues of $133.3 billion and $145.93 billion, respectively. Looking ahead to FY2026-2029, a forward revenue growth rate of 4.87% will be applied.</p><p>In terms of net income, analysts project an EPS of $8.92, translating to a net income of $22.63 billion for FY2024. For FY2025, the estimate increases to an EPS of $9.75, corresponding to a net income of $24.74 billion. Subsequently, for FY2026-2029, the anticipated 3-5 year long-term expected EPS growth rate of 17.45% will be applied.</p><table style=\"border-collapse:collapse;\"><colgroup><col/><col/><col/><col/><col/><col/></colgroup><tbody><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Revenue</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Net Income</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Plus Taxes</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Plus D&amp;A</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Plus Interest</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>2023</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$133,310.0</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$22,634.50</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$25,522.15</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$32,104.47</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$33,104.00</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>2024</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$145,930.0</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$24,740.63</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$27,896.97</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$34,479.29</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$35,478.82</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>2025</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$152,715.7</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$29,057.86</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$32,764.99</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$40,305.48</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$41,450.52</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>2026</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$159,817.0</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$34,128.46</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$38,482.48</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$46,373.61</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$47,571.88</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>2027</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$167,248.5</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$40,083.88</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$45,197.68</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$53,455.74</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$54,709.73</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>2028</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$175,025.6</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$47,078.51</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$53,084.67</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$61,726.73</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$63,039.04</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>^Final EBITA^</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p></p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/90a2b3d81905562e6d4cd4d6443240d7\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"679\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations</span></p><p>The initial model suggests that Alibaba is undervalued by a significant margin, approximately 161.9%. According to this model, the fair stock price is estimated to be $204.9, closely aligning with the stock price on July 9, 2021, when the stock traded at $205.94, a period within the onset of the bear market.</p><p>Additionally, the model indicates a projected future stock price of $274.7. This implies a potential gain of 41.9% until 2028, aligning with Alibaba&#39;s FY2029.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0901371041fe275255a832be806605b0\" alt=\"Seeking Alpha\" title=\"Seeking Alpha\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"344\"/><span>Seeking Alpha</span></p><h3 id=\"id_3561401362\">My Estimates</h3><p>In this alternative model, I have projected the growth of each of Alibaba&#39;s segments based on the expected CAGR in their respective markets. The Chinese Retail &amp; Wholesale segments are forecasted to grow at a CAGR of 8.21%, International Retail &amp; Wholesale at 15%, Cainiao in the Platform Delivery market at 5.15%, Chinese cloud at 20.44%, and Chinese Digital Media &amp; Entertainment at a rate of 10.88%. For Local Consumer Services, where estimating revenues is challenging, a conservative growth rate of 5% has been applied, which is notably below the current YoY growth of 16% for this segment.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a0aba12ef54f1700a42b67ae82e18682\" alt=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" title=\"Author&#39;s Calculations\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"98\"/><span>Author&#39;s Calculations</span></p><table style=\"border-collapse:collapse;\"><colgroup><col/><col/><col/><col/><col/><col/></colgroup><tbody><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Revenue</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Net Income</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Plus Taxes</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Plus D&amp;A</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>Plus Interest</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>FY 2024</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$125,311.9</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$18,170.23</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$20,488.34</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$26,733.94</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$27,682.34</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>FY 2025</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$137,322.4</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$19,911.75</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$22,452.04</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$28,697.64</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$29,646.04</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>FY 2026</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$150,693.7</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$21,850.58</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$24,638.23</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$32,148.86</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$33,289.36</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>FY 2027</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$165,610.7</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$24,013.55</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$27,077.14</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$35,331.25</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$36,584.65</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>FY 2028</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$182,287.9</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$26,431.75</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$29,803.84</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$38,889.16</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$40,268.77</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>FY 2029</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$200,974.3</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$29,141.27</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$32,859.04</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$42,875.69</p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$44,396.73</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>^Final EBITA^</p></td></tr></tbody></table><p>Author&#39;s Calculations</p><p>This more conservative model suggests a fair price of $148.1, indicating an upside of 89.3% from the current stock price of $78.2. Looking ahead to FY2029, the projected stock price is $184.2, translating into annual returns of 22.6%. While not as high as the previous model, these returns are still substantial and attractive.</p><h2 id=\"id_3686040600\">Risks to Thesis</h2><p>The primary risk factor in this bullish thesis revolves around the influence exerted by the Chinese Government. The government&#39;s control over corporations, as evidenced by the halt in the Ant Group&#39;s IPO in Hong Kong, poses a considerable risk. If there were a concerted effort to sideline Jack Ma, a key figure in the company&#39;s direction, it could deliver a significant intellectual blow to Alibaba. In such a scenario, the company would need to secure an equally capable protector, given Ma&#39;s influential role despite not holding the CEO position.</p><p>Secondly, there exists the risk of a severe Chinese recession impacting Alibaba&#39;s sales volume. With over 65% of e-commerce revenues hinging on the Chinese market, the company is vulnerable to economic downturns. This vulnerability extends beyond e-commerce to include entertainment platforms and Cainiao, which is intricately tied to e-commerce operations.</p><p>Lastly, there is the risk of a foreign competitor, such as Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN), succeeding in growing aggressively within the Chinese market. Alibaba&#39;s lack of logistical infrastructure in the US to counterbalance Amazon&#39;s influence could position the company unfavorably in the long term. To mitigate this risk, Alibaba would need to consider strategic expansion into other markets.</p><h2 id=\"id_2850560331\">Conclusion</h2><p>In conclusion, Alibaba Group Holdings Limited emerges as a compelling investment opportunity marked by a resilient business model and diversified revenue streams. Despite recent challenges and regulatory uncertainties, the company&#39;s strategic segments, including e-commerce, cloud, and logistics, showcase robust growth potential domestically and internationally.</p><p>Throughout two DCF models, we observe that Alibaba&#39;s undervaluation could be as high as 161.9% considering analysts&#39; estimates. However, to make it more conservative, I conducted my own estimates which suggest that Alibaba is undervalued by 89.3%. After conducting the two models, I am assigning Alibaba a stock price target of $148.1, which is an 89.3% upside from the current stock price of $78.2. Furthermore, the stock could reach a price of $184.2 in FY 2029 (year 2028), which translates into 22.4% annual returns.</p><p>The undervaluation indicators, coupled with the recent stock pullback, suggest this is an attractive entry point for Alibaba Group Holding Limited stock, but investors must remain vigilant to risks associated with governmental influence, economic downturns, and foreign competition. Alibaba&#39;s adeptness in navigating these challenges, coupled with its financial strength and strategic positioning, positions it favorably for long-term growth.</p><p>Editor&#39;s Note: This article discusses one or more securities that do not trade on a major U.S. exchange. 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Additionally, the company abandoned its plans to spin off its cloud business, citing uncertainties in the growth trajectory caused by the U.S.-imposed restrictions on AI chip imports.Nevertheless, in this article, I will elucidate using two valuation models why Alibaba is significantly undervalued, marking an undervaluation of up to 80%. This substantial undervaluation provides a considerable margin of security for investors, warranting a \"strong buy\" recommendation. I propose a fair price of $148.1 for the stock.OverviewFQ2 2024 AlibabaFY 2023Q2 2024 EarningsIn FQ2 2024, Alibaba outperformed expectations in earnings but fell short on revenue, with a notable miss of $230 million. Despite this, the company reported an impressive EPS of $2.14, surpassing the consensus by $0.05.The most significant blow to these earnings results came as Alibaba opted to abandon its plan to spin off its cloud business. The rationale behind this decision was a belief that the spin-off would not deliver the anticipated shareholder value. Furthermore, the company pointed to the current export restrictions on AI chips imposed by the U.S., which has cast uncertainty over the prospects of its cloud segment.Adding to the challenges, Alibaba disclosed that Jack Ma's family trust intends to sell 10 million shares valued at $870.71 million on November 21.MarketE-Commerce ChinaAlibaba's primary focus lies in e-commerce, as illustrated in the table below, with a significant dependency on China, representing 67% of this segment. However, since 2021, Alibaba has successfully reduced its reliance on the Chinese market by 3%.In addition to its Chinese and international e-commerce segments, Alibaba operates in the \"wholesale\" segment. This facet involves collaboration with Chinese factories, functioning in a producer-to-consumer model. Notably, the cost per unit decreases with higher purchase quantities.Projections indicate an anticipated growth rate of 8.21% for the Chinese e-commerce market throughout 2027. In contrast, the global e-commerce market is expected to experience a more robust growth rate of approximately 15% by 2032.StatistaPrecedence ResearchLocal Consumer ServicesThe Local Consumer Services segment of Alibaba encompasses a range of diverse services designed to cater to various consumer needs. Among these services are Ele.me, a prominent on-demand delivery platform, Amap, providing digital mapping services along with real-time traffic information, Fliggy, an online travel platform, and Taoxianda, a platform aiding retailers in establishing and managing online stores.Cainiao - Platform Delivery ChinaCainiao, a company 70% owned by Alibaba following its acquisition of the majority stake in 2017, specializes in logistics. Serving as a crucial complement to Alibaba's e-commerce operations in China, Cainiao plays a pivotal role in ensuring timely deliveries within China, often achieving the impressive feat of completing deliveries in less than 24 hours.Notably, the platform delivery segment has experienced recent growth, propelled by the surge in e-commerce sales. Projections indicate a continued growth rate of 5.15% for this market throughout 2027.Author's Calculations with base on StatistaCloud - ChinaAlibaba also boasts a formidable presence in the cloud segment, initially slated for a significant spinoff as part of a major strategic plan. This move garnered widespread acclaim from investors, given the robust prospects of the cloud market in China. Projections estimate a noteworthy growth rate of 20.44%, and the autonomy of an independent Alibaba Cloud company is anticipated to drive rapid revenue expansion and robust cash-flow growth, particularly considering the high profitability associated with cloud services.Notably, the projected growth rate of 20.44% for the Chinese cloud market closely aligns with the impressive revenue growth that Alibaba has consistently demonstrated within its cloud segment.Author's Calculations with base on StatistaDigital Media & Entertainment - ChinaThe final segment in Alibaba's diverse portfolio is Digital Media and Entertainment, featuring key components such as Youku, a prominent video platform, and Alibaba Pictures, which encompasses intellectual property, licensing, and cinema ticketing management for the movie industry. Additionally, the company provides other content platforms and engages in the online gaming sector.Projections for the digital media market in China are optimistic, with an expected growth rate of 10.88%. This growth is anticipated to be fueled by the increasing revenue per user, projected to experience a substantial uptick of 7.6% from 2023 to 2027.StatistaStatistaFinancialAlibaba has demonstrated remarkable revenue growth over the past six years. Since FY2018, the company has achieved an annual revenue growth rate of 35.68%. However, in a recent development, Alibaba experienced its first decline in revenue, with a year-over-year reduction of 5.97%.What stands out is the company's ability to consistently grow its net income, a crucial factor influencing a discounted cash flow (\"DCF\") model. The net income has grown at a commendable annual rate of 15.57%, currently standing at $18.16 billion, though below the 2021 all-time high of $22.98 billion.In terms of margins, a noticeable downward trend is observed in both operating margin and net income margin. In FY2018, these metrics were above 25%, with the operating margin at 28.21% and the net income margin at 25.61%. As of the latest earnings release, both metrics have decreased to 14.66% and 14.50%, respectively.Author's CalculationsAuthor's CalculationsAlibaba's financial foundation appears robust, with a substantial cash reserve of $78.66 billion and a comparatively low debt burden. Long-term debt stands at $21.71 billion, while short-term debt is at $5.4 billion.Author's CalculationsDespite the overall positive financial outlook, Alibaba's free cash flow has experienced annual growth of 9.38%. The free cash flow margin, however, has seen a significant decrease from FY2018's 36.6% to the current level of 18.2%. This indicates a potential decrease in efficiency, and Alibaba attributes this shift to the presence of project-based contracts, which inherently have lower margins. The company is actively working to reduce the impact of these contracts to enhance overall margins.Author's CalculationsAuthor's CalculationsAuthor's CalculationsValuationIn this valuation of Alibaba, I will employ two distinct models: the first relies on analysts' estimates for revenue and net income, while the second model involves my own estimates formulated from scratch. These estimates are based on the anticipated growth rates within the markets of each of Alibaba's operating segments.The table below outlines the assumptions integral to calculating Alibaba's fair stock price. Notably, D&A, interest expenses, and CapEx will be computed using margins tied to revenue.Ultimately, the WACC will be derived from variables such as equity value, debt value, and the cost of debt, utilizing the widely recognized formula.For FY2023 and FY2024, analysts anticipate revenues of $133.3 billion and $145.93 billion, respectively. Subsequently, for FY2026-2029, I will apply an expected forward revenue growth rate of 4.87%.TABLE OF ASSUMPTIONS(Current data)Assumptions Part 1Equity Value141,772.60Debt Value27,182.30Cost of Debt3.49%Tax Rate12.76%10y Treasury4.80%Beta0.89Market Return10.50%Cost of Equity9.87%Assumptions Part 2CapEx4,702.10Capex Margin3.75%Net Income18,168.20Interest948.40Tax2,656.80D&A6,245.60Ebitda28,019.00D&A Margin4.98%Interest Expense Margin0.76%Revenue125,311.9Analysts' EstimatesFor FY2023 and FY2024, analysts are anticipating revenues of $133.3 billion and $145.93 billion, respectively. Looking ahead to FY2026-2029, a forward revenue growth rate of 4.87% will be applied.In terms of net income, analysts project an EPS of $8.92, translating to a net income of $22.63 billion for FY2024. For FY2025, the estimate increases to an EPS of $9.75, corresponding to a net income of $24.74 billion. Subsequently, for FY2026-2029, the anticipated 3-5 year long-term expected EPS growth rate of 17.45% will be applied.RevenueNet IncomePlus TaxesPlus D&APlus Interest2023$133,310.0$22,634.50$25,522.15$32,104.47$33,104.002024$145,930.0$24,740.63$27,896.97$34,479.29$35,478.822025$152,715.7$29,057.86$32,764.99$40,305.48$41,450.522026$159,817.0$34,128.46$38,482.48$46,373.61$47,571.882027$167,248.5$40,083.88$45,197.68$53,455.74$54,709.732028$175,025.6$47,078.51$53,084.67$61,726.73$63,039.04^Final EBITA^Author's CalculationsThe initial model suggests that Alibaba is undervalued by a significant margin, approximately 161.9%. According to this model, the fair stock price is estimated to be $204.9, closely aligning with the stock price on July 9, 2021, when the stock traded at $205.94, a period within the onset of the bear market.Additionally, the model indicates a projected future stock price of $274.7. This implies a potential gain of 41.9% until 2028, aligning with Alibaba's FY2029.Seeking AlphaMy EstimatesIn this alternative model, I have projected the growth of each of Alibaba's segments based on the expected CAGR in their respective markets. The Chinese Retail & Wholesale segments are forecasted to grow at a CAGR of 8.21%, International Retail & Wholesale at 15%, Cainiao in the Platform Delivery market at 5.15%, Chinese cloud at 20.44%, and Chinese Digital Media & Entertainment at a rate of 10.88%. For Local Consumer Services, where estimating revenues is challenging, a conservative growth rate of 5% has been applied, which is notably below the current YoY growth of 16% for this segment.Author's CalculationsRevenueNet IncomePlus TaxesPlus D&APlus InterestFY 2024$125,311.9$18,170.23$20,488.34$26,733.94$27,682.34FY 2025$137,322.4$19,911.75$22,452.04$28,697.64$29,646.04FY 2026$150,693.7$21,850.58$24,638.23$32,148.86$33,289.36FY 2027$165,610.7$24,013.55$27,077.14$35,331.25$36,584.65FY 2028$182,287.9$26,431.75$29,803.84$38,889.16$40,268.77FY 2029$200,974.3$29,141.27$32,859.04$42,875.69$44,396.73^Final EBITA^Author's CalculationsThis more conservative model suggests a fair price of $148.1, indicating an upside of 89.3% from the current stock price of $78.2. Looking ahead to FY2029, the projected stock price is $184.2, translating into annual returns of 22.6%. While not as high as the previous model, these returns are still substantial and attractive.Risks to ThesisThe primary risk factor in this bullish thesis revolves around the influence exerted by the Chinese Government. The government's control over corporations, as evidenced by the halt in the Ant Group's IPO in Hong Kong, poses a considerable risk. If there were a concerted effort to sideline Jack Ma, a key figure in the company's direction, it could deliver a significant intellectual blow to Alibaba. In such a scenario, the company would need to secure an equally capable protector, given Ma's influential role despite not holding the CEO position.Secondly, there exists the risk of a severe Chinese recession impacting Alibaba's sales volume. With over 65% of e-commerce revenues hinging on the Chinese market, the company is vulnerable to economic downturns. This vulnerability extends beyond e-commerce to include entertainment platforms and Cainiao, which is intricately tied to e-commerce operations.Lastly, there is the risk of a foreign competitor, such as Amazon.com, Inc. (AMZN), succeeding in growing aggressively within the Chinese market. Alibaba's lack of logistical infrastructure in the US to counterbalance Amazon's influence could position the company unfavorably in the long term. To mitigate this risk, Alibaba would need to consider strategic expansion into other markets.ConclusionIn conclusion, Alibaba Group Holdings Limited emerges as a compelling investment opportunity marked by a resilient business model and diversified revenue streams. Despite recent challenges and regulatory uncertainties, the company's strategic segments, including e-commerce, cloud, and logistics, showcase robust growth potential domestically and internationally.Throughout two DCF models, we observe that Alibaba's undervaluation could be as high as 161.9% considering analysts' estimates. However, to make it more conservative, I conducted my own estimates which suggest that Alibaba is undervalued by 89.3%. After conducting the two models, I am assigning Alibaba a stock price target of $148.1, which is an 89.3% upside from the current stock price of $78.2. Furthermore, the stock could reach a price of $184.2 in FY 2029 (year 2028), which translates into 22.4% annual returns.The undervaluation indicators, coupled with the recent stock pullback, suggest this is an attractive entry point for Alibaba Group Holding Limited stock, but investors must remain vigilant to risks associated with governmental influence, economic downturns, and foreign competition. Alibaba's adeptness in navigating these challenges, coupled with its financial strength and strategic positioning, positions it favorably for long-term growth.Editor's Note: This article discusses one or more securities that do not trade on a major U.S. exchange. Please be aware of the risks associated with these stocks.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":316,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":206532983505024,"gmtCreate":1691454808622,"gmtModify":1691454811768,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/PLTR\">$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$&nbsp;</a> This is definitely along term 'keep'. My avg had been ard 9ish/share...I did sell off half of my holdings ard 18, the other half is now 'free of cost'....will keep it for long term. Shall continue to 'add on' during dips.","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/PLTR\">$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$&nbsp;</a> This is definitely along term 'keep'. My avg had been ard 9ish/share...I did sell off half of my holdings ard 18, the other half is now 'free of cost'....will keep it for long term. Shall continue to 'add on' during dips.","text":"$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$ This is definitely along term 'keep'. My avg had been ard 9ish/share...I did sell off half of my holdings ard 18, the other half is now 'free of cost'....will keep it for long term. Shall continue to 'add on' during dips.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/206532983505024","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":296,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":184692236931248,"gmtCreate":1686115266668,"gmtModify":1686115270675,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"It definitely has potential, no harm keeping a small stake in this company.&nbsp; My entry was around $7+, share price&nbsp;has since doubled, sold half of the holdings, re-couped the initial investment. Thus the other half is now FOC, will keep monitoring and shall buy on dips.","listText":"It definitely has potential, no harm keeping a small stake in this company.&nbsp; My entry was around $7+, share price&nbsp;has since doubled, sold half of the holdings, re-couped the initial investment. Thus the other half is now FOC, will keep monitoring and shall buy on dips.","text":"It definitely has potential, no harm keeping a small stake in this company. My entry was around $7+, share price has since doubled, sold half of the holdings, re-couped the initial investment. Thus the other half is now FOC, will keep monitoring and shall buy on dips.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/184692236931248","repostId":"2341036895","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":388,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":244139414519944,"gmtCreate":1700628375112,"gmtModify":1700628380042,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Am in for a long term, my current pltr holding is almost&nbsp;'free-of-cost'. (Bought at $9ish, sold half of my holdings at $17ish).&nbsp; Waiting for its inclusion into SnP500.","listText":"Am in for a long term, my current pltr holding is almost&nbsp;'free-of-cost'. (Bought at $9ish, sold half of my holdings at $17ish).&nbsp; Waiting for its inclusion into SnP500.","text":"Am in for a long term, my current pltr holding is almost 'free-of-cost'. (Bought at $9ish, sold half of my holdings at $17ish). Waiting for its inclusion into SnP500.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/244139414519944","repostId":"2385036105","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2385036105","pubTimestamp":1700617200,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2385036105?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-11-22 09:40","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Palantir Is A Log Rolling Down A Hill","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2385036105","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"$Palantir Technologies Inc.(PLTR)$ is a big data analytics company that is performing well with the rise of artificial intelligence.The company had strong quarterly results, with its 4th consecutive q","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul style=\"\"><li><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/PLTR\">Palantir Technologies Inc.</a> is a big data analytics company that is performing well with the rise of artificial intelligence.</p></li><li><p>The company had strong quarterly results, with its 4th consecutive quarter of GAAP profitability and a 17% YoY revenue growth.</p></li><li><p>Palantir&#39;s opportunity lies in its impressive software and the continued desire for it from major corporations, with the potential for increased profits and valuation.</p></li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ca0459f275b9aed733014624cae2dc80\" alt=\"Michael Vi\" title=\"Michael Vi\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\"/><span>Michael Vi</span></p><p><strong>Palantir Technologies Inc.</strong> (NYSE:PLTR) is a big data analytics company. Especially with the rise of artificial intelligence, or AI, the company has performed well recently. We think the company is in a great position. Amazon&#39;s (AMZN) Amazon Web Services, or AWS, revolutionized the compute industry, despite its higher cost per unit-compute, because of how it freed up resources for major companies.</p><p>With the growth of artificial intelligence, we expect Palantir to do the same for artificial intelligence and big data.</p><h2 id=\"id_3976357080\">Palantir Quarterly Results</h2><p>The company had strong results in the most recent quarter.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/7e19be0ac5264148e507755a6827ed9e\" alt=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" title=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"302\"/><span>Palantir Investor Presentation</span></p><p>The company had its 4th consecutive quarter of GAAP profitability in Q3. Profitability remains low, but for a growing company, it&#39;s still impressive. The company&#39;s margin of 7% is up substantially YoY. Continued improvement in margins will enable profits to grow faster than revenues that are already growing quickly. That growth in profits will justify investing today.</p><p>The company&#39;s revenue managed to grow a very respectable 17% YoY and is now annualized at well over $2 billion. That was supported by incredibly strong growth in the company&#39;s commercial business as the company continues to take advantage of the artificial intelligence wave. Growing revenue and growing margins are essential for long-term returns.</p><p>At the end of the day the company earned $141 million in adjusted free cash flow (&#34;FCF&#34;), or annualized FCF of more than $550 million. The company has a market cap more almost $44 billion, meaning a FCF yield of more than 1%. That shows the company&#39;s financial and cash flow strength.</p><h2 id=\"id_2948552223\">Palantir Opportunity</h2><p>The opportunity for Palantir is based on organizations continuing to see the benefits to their operations.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5b8c878a43a7194573cbcf208dc081d6\" alt=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" title=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"305\"/><span>Palantir Investor Presentation</span></p><p>The company&#39;s opportunity is evident in its growth from being used by 1% of hospital beds across the U.S. a year ago. Now it is being utilized at 16% of hospital beds across the U.S.. That growth is substantial. The same kind of growth is being seen at the company&#39;s commercial partners. The company has an effective multi-stage process.</p><p>First, the company incentivizes and grabs a new customer. From that point, the company rapidly grows its scale with the customers. It shows them the opportunity it offers and gains larger and larger contracts. That double-whammy of new customers and rapid revenue growth per customer results in much faster overall medical growth.</p><p>The company grew its revenue 17% YoY, showing the continued desire for its products, and its profit growing even faster, shows that same desire.</p><h2 id=\"id_3436228380\">Palantir Financials</h2><p>Another exciting thing is the company&#39;s commercial financial growth.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/1b0177c72327780466d9528352603e06\" alt=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" title=\"Palantir Investor Presentation\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"298\"/><span>Palantir Investor Presentation</span></p><p>For a long time, the company was the preferred partner of governments, and to be fair it remains so. It continued to offer strong solutions to governments, and continued to win massive contracts to help them modernize and improve. While that was exciting to see, that growth for the company was relatively much slower.</p><p>A trend has come in the past year. Commercial companies are increasingly recognizing the company&#39;s potential, supported by the overall movement for artificial intelligence.</p><h2 id=\"id_3347772233\">Palantir Opportunity</h2><p>The opportunity in Palantir is in the company&#39;s impressive software and the continued desire for that software from major corporations. It enables those corporations to improve their workflows and operations at a much lower cost than what it would traditionally cost them to build software operations and build out those divisions.</p><p>At the same time, as revenue grows, Palantir&#39;s margins will increase. That&#39;s because the fixed costs will be increasingly spread outwards. That enables profits to increase even faster, which eventually justifies the company&#39;s valuation. That opportunity, versus Palantir&#39;s current valuation, is immense. In the meantime, the company has a strong cash position to support operations.</p><h2 id=\"id_1344189110\">Thesis Risk</h2><p>The largest risk to our thesis is the converse. That the trend changes and companies simply don&#39;t see sufficient opportunity in the company&#39;s software offerings. Given the company&#39;s lofty valuation that its current profits don&#39;t justify, that could lead to rapid poor returns in its share price, making the company a poor investment.</p><h2 id=\"id_3275605160\">Conclusion</h2><p>Palantir Technologies Inc. is a log rolling down a hill. The pace is picking up. The company continues to see strong growth in its government business, but now, thanks to artificial intelligence, the company&#39;s commercial segment is picking up even quicker. In our view, the company offers to customers what AWS did for computing.</p><p>The company&#39;s revenue is growing and its profits are growing even faster. That helps to make the company a valuable investment, as its profits continue to grow, justifying its valuation. Let us know your thoughts in the comments below.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Palantir Is A Log Rolling Down A Hill</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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(NYSE:PLTR) is a big data analytics company. Especially with the rise of artificial intelligence, or AI, the company has performed well recently. We think the company is in a great position. Amazon's (AMZN) Amazon Web Services, or AWS, revolutionized the compute industry, despite its higher cost per unit-compute, because of how it freed up resources for major companies.With the growth of artificial intelligence, we expect Palantir to do the same for artificial intelligence and big data.Palantir Quarterly ResultsThe company had strong results in the most recent quarter.Palantir Investor PresentationThe company had its 4th consecutive quarter of GAAP profitability in Q3. Profitability remains low, but for a growing company, it's still impressive. The company's margin of 7% is up substantially YoY. Continued improvement in margins will enable profits to grow faster than revenues that are already growing quickly. That growth in profits will justify investing today.The company's revenue managed to grow a very respectable 17% YoY and is now annualized at well over $2 billion. That was supported by incredibly strong growth in the company's commercial business as the company continues to take advantage of the artificial intelligence wave. Growing revenue and growing margins are essential for long-term returns.At the end of the day the company earned $141 million in adjusted free cash flow (\"FCF\"), or annualized FCF of more than $550 million. The company has a market cap more almost $44 billion, meaning a FCF yield of more than 1%. That shows the company's financial and cash flow strength.Palantir OpportunityThe opportunity for Palantir is based on organizations continuing to see the benefits to their operations.Palantir Investor PresentationThe company's opportunity is evident in its growth from being used by 1% of hospital beds across the U.S. a year ago. Now it is being utilized at 16% of hospital beds across the U.S.. That growth is substantial. The same kind of growth is being seen at the company's commercial partners. The company has an effective multi-stage process.First, the company incentivizes and grabs a new customer. From that point, the company rapidly grows its scale with the customers. It shows them the opportunity it offers and gains larger and larger contracts. That double-whammy of new customers and rapid revenue growth per customer results in much faster overall medical growth.The company grew its revenue 17% YoY, showing the continued desire for its products, and its profit growing even faster, shows that same desire.Palantir FinancialsAnother exciting thing is the company's commercial financial growth.Palantir Investor PresentationFor a long time, the company was the preferred partner of governments, and to be fair it remains so. It continued to offer strong solutions to governments, and continued to win massive contracts to help them modernize and improve. While that was exciting to see, that growth for the company was relatively much slower.A trend has come in the past year. Commercial companies are increasingly recognizing the company's potential, supported by the overall movement for artificial intelligence.Palantir OpportunityThe opportunity in Palantir is in the company's impressive software and the continued desire for that software from major corporations. It enables those corporations to improve their workflows and operations at a much lower cost than what it would traditionally cost them to build software operations and build out those divisions.At the same time, as revenue grows, Palantir's margins will increase. That's because the fixed costs will be increasingly spread outwards. That enables profits to increase even faster, which eventually justifies the company's valuation. That opportunity, versus Palantir's current valuation, is immense. In the meantime, the company has a strong cash position to support operations.Thesis RiskThe largest risk to our thesis is the converse. That the trend changes and companies simply don't see sufficient opportunity in the company's software offerings. Given the company's lofty valuation that its current profits don't justify, that could lead to rapid poor returns in its share price, making the company a poor investment.ConclusionPalantir Technologies Inc. is a log rolling down a hill. The pace is picking up. The company continues to see strong growth in its government business, but now, thanks to artificial intelligence, the company's commercial segment is picking up even quicker. In our view, the company offers to customers what AWS did for computing.The company's revenue is growing and its profits are growing even faster. That helps to make the company a valuable investment, as its profits continue to grow, justifying its valuation. Let us know your thoughts in the comments below.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":450,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":185422414168168,"gmtCreate":1686308423891,"gmtModify":1686308428163,"author":{"id":"4110855522753532","authorId":"4110855522753532","name":"sjsjsj","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/5b28fa3a14f65b1818e59048a05a22ed","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4110855522753532","authorIdStr":"4110855522753532"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"One of my \"bad investments\"[Sweats]&nbsp;","listText":"One of my \"bad investments\"[Sweats]&nbsp;","text":"One of my \"bad investments\"[Sweats]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/185422414168168","repostId":"2342056163","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":146,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}