+Follow
Albert Teo
No personal profile
10
Follow
3
Followers
0
Topic
0
Badge
Posts
Hot
Albert Teo
07-31
$NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$
85
Albert Teo
06-10
Buy at split price for $120
Albert Teo
2023-11-10
$SINGAPORE AIRLINES LTD(C6L.SI)$
one and only one airline for sg,sure up
Albert Teo
2023-06-16
'
$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$
Albert Teo
2023-04-05
[财迷]
good
Tesla Stock: Headed to $150?
Albert Teo
2023-03-30
Ok
Sorry, the original content has been removed
Albert Teo
2023-03-29
Let see who have the guts and able to invest with wisdom
Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You
Albert Teo
2023-03-20
Buy
Credit Suisse Shares Slump Almost 60% in Premarket Trading After UBS Deal
Albert Teo
2022-11-10
Expected
Wall Street Ends Lower After Midterm Election, CPI in Focus
Albert Teo
2022-09-27
[Great]
Investing in This ETF Right Now Could Make You a Millionaire Retiree
Albert Teo
2022-09-26
like
The Stock Market Is Reeling. Here's What Could Stop the Pain
Albert Teo
2022-09-21
Alibaba: The Charlie Munger And Li Lu Divergence
Go to Tiger App to see more news
{"i18n":{"language":"en_US"},"userPageInfo":{"id":"4116912402726192","uuid":"4116912402726192","gmtCreate":1661336442028,"gmtModify":1663747990524,"name":"Albert Teo","pinyin":"albertteoalbertteo","introduction":"","introductionEn":"","signature":"","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","hat":null,"hatId":null,"hatName":null,"vip":1,"status":2,"fanSize":3,"headSize":10,"tweetSize":12,"questionSize":0,"limitLevel":999,"accountStatus":4,"level":{"id":1,"name":"萌萌虎","nameTw":"萌萌虎","represent":"呱呱坠地","factor":"评论帖子3次或发布1条主帖(非转发)","iconColor":"3C9E83","bgColor":"A2F1D9"},"themeCounts":0,"badgeCounts":0,"badges":[],"moderator":false,"superModerator":false,"manageSymbols":null,"badgeLevel":null,"boolIsFan":false,"boolIsHead":false,"favoriteSize":0,"symbols":null,"coverImage":null,"realNameVerified":"init","userBadges":[{"badgeId":"972123088c9646f7b6091ae0662215be-3","templateUuid":"972123088c9646f7b6091ae0662215be","name":"Legendary Trader","description":"Total number of securities or futures transactions reached 300","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/656db16598a0b8f21429e10d6c1cb033","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/03f10910d4dd9234f9b5702a3342193a","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0c767e35268feb729d50d3fa9a386c5a","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2024.08.21","exceedPercentage":"93.01%","individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1100},{"badgeId":"44212b71d0be4ec88898348dbe882e03-2","templateUuid":"44212b71d0be4ec88898348dbe882e03","name":"Executive Tiger","description":"The transaction amount of the securities account reaches $300,000","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/9d20b23f1b6335407f882bc5c2ad12c0","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/ada3b4533518ace8404a3f6dd192bd29","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/177f283ba21d1c077054dac07f88f3bd","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2024.07.18","exceedPercentage":"80.02%","individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1101},{"badgeId":"1026c425416b44e0aac28c11a0848493-1","templateUuid":"1026c425416b44e0aac28c11a0848493","name":"Debut Tiger","description":"Join the tiger community for 500 days","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0e4d0ca1da0456dc7894c946d44bf9ab","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0f2f65e8ce4cfaae8db2bea9b127f58b","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c5948a31b6edf154422335b265235809","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2024.01.06","exceedPercentage":null,"individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1001},{"badgeId":"cbe1c45c584340f3bd9ae6c77e0e9981-1","templateUuid":"cbe1c45c584340f3bd9ae6c77e0e9981","name":"Academy Experiencer","description":"5 lessons learned","bigImgUrl":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/fb5ae275631fb96a92d475cdc85d2302","smallImgUrl":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/c2660a1935bd2105e97c9915619936c3","grayImgUrl":null,"redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2023.03.04","exceedPercentage":null,"individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":2006},{"badgeId":"7a9f168ff73447fe856ed6c938b61789-1","templateUuid":"7a9f168ff73447fe856ed6c938b61789","name":"Knowledgeable Investor","description":"Traded more than 10 stocks","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e74cc24115c4fbae6154ec1b1041bf47","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d48265cbfd97c57f9048db29f22227b0","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/76c6d6898b073c77e1c537ebe9ac1c57","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":1,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2022.10.28","exceedPercentage":null,"individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1102},{"badgeId":"a83d7582f45846ffbccbce770ce65d84-1","templateUuid":"a83d7582f45846ffbccbce770ce65d84","name":"Real Trader","description":"Completed a transaction","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2e08a1cc2087a1de93402c2c290fa65b","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4504a6397ce1137932d56e5f4ce27166","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/4b22c79415b4cd6e3d8ebc4a0fa32604","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":0,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2022.08.25","exceedPercentage":null,"individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1100}],"userBadgeCount":6,"currentWearingBadge":{"badgeId":"7a9f168ff73447fe856ed6c938b61789-1","templateUuid":"7a9f168ff73447fe856ed6c938b61789","name":"Knowledgeable Investor","description":"Traded more than 10 stocks","bigImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e74cc24115c4fbae6154ec1b1041bf47","smallImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/d48265cbfd97c57f9048db29f22227b0","grayImgUrl":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/76c6d6898b073c77e1c537ebe9ac1c57","redirectLinkEnabled":0,"redirectLink":null,"hasAllocated":1,"isWearing":1,"stamp":null,"stampPosition":0,"hasStamp":0,"allocationCount":1,"allocatedDate":"2022.10.28","exceedPercentage":null,"individualDisplayEnabled":0,"backgroundColor":null,"fontColor":null,"individualDisplaySort":0,"categoryType":1102},"individualDisplayBadges":null,"crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"location":null,"starInvestorFollowerNum":0,"starInvestorFlag":false,"starInvestorOrderShareNum":0,"subscribeStarInvestorNum":1,"ror":null,"winRationPercentage":null,"showRor":false,"investmentPhilosophy":null,"starInvestorSubscribeFlag":false},"baikeInfo":{},"tab":"post","tweets":[{"id":333344863797400,"gmtCreate":1722411054909,"gmtModify":1723446969116,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/NVDA\">$NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$ </a> 85","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/NVDA\">$NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$ </a> 85","text":"$NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$ 85","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/333344863797400","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":276,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":315244978065472,"gmtCreate":1717995483105,"gmtModify":1717995487099,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Buy at split price for $120","listText":"Buy at split price for $120","text":"Buy at split price for $120","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/315244978065472","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":338,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":239793665511504,"gmtCreate":1699580278435,"gmtModify":1699580282936,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/C6L.SI\">$SINGAPORE AIRLINES LTD(C6L.SI)$ </a>one and only one airline for sg,sure up","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/C6L.SI\">$SINGAPORE AIRLINES LTD(C6L.SI)$ </a>one and only one airline for sg,sure up","text":"$SINGAPORE AIRLINES LTD(C6L.SI)$ one and only one airline for sg,sure up","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/239793665511504","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":412,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":187789546205312,"gmtCreate":1686874871412,"gmtModify":1686874874228,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"' <a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ </a>","listText":"' <a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ </a>","text":"' $Tesla Motors(TSLA)$","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/187789546205312","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":330,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9948856058,"gmtCreate":1680680310374,"gmtModify":1680680313194,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"\">[财迷] </a>good","listText":"<a href=\"\">[财迷] </a>good","text":"[财迷] good","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9948856058","repostId":"2324887333","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2324887333","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1680647400,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2324887333?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-04-05 06:30","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock: Headed to $150?","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2324887333","media":"Motley Fool","summary":"One analyst thinks more price cuts could be on the way for the electric-car maker.","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2 style=\"text-align: start;\">KEY POINTS</h2><ul><li><p>Following Tesla's first-quarter vehicle deliveries update, this analyst thinks the stock will underperform.</p></li><li><p>The analyst's price target for the growth stock suggests shares could lose more than a fifth of their value.</p></li><li><p>But is the analyst's concern about Tesla's growing inventory fair?</p></li></ul><p>Shares of <strong>Tesla</strong> tanked on Monday, following the company's release of its first-quarter vehicle production and deliveries data. While deliveries grew nicely year over year, it apparently wasn't enough to excite Wall Street. As analysts digested the report, their published viewpoints on the update have been mixed. Some analysts were pleased with the 36% year-over-year growth. But others admitted that the nearly 423,000 deliveries were underwhelming.</p><p>In this article, we'll take a look at one of the more bearish analyst takes following Tesla's update on production and deliveries. One analyst reiterated an underperform rating for the stock and a $150 12-month price target. Here's what's behind his pessimistic view for the growth stock. </p><h2>More price cuts to come?</h2><p>Earlier this year, Tesla rolled out major price cuts for its vehicle lineup. This sparked concerns in the media about potential demand softening. But Tesla CEO Elon Musk said in the company's fourth-quarter earnings call that the lower prices were driving a significant surge in orders.</p><p>Investors ultimately warmed up to the idea of price cuts, evidenced by the stock's soaring price year to date. Further, part of the price cut was essentially giving back price increases that occurred in the prior year, as higher costs led Tesla to raise prices on its vehicles. As some of Tesla's costs started to normalize more recently, it made sense for the company to pass those savings on to customers through reduced prices. After all, lower prices do typically drive higher unit sales.</p><p>But Bernstein analyst Toni Sacconaghi thinks that there are more price cuts to come. He notes that Tesla's vehicle inventory, while still low, has been growing. Further, the wait time between a new order of a Tesla vehicle in the U.S. and the expected delivery window is currently low on all models except Tesla's Model Y, Sacconaghi says. He thinks these things point to signs of a tough demand environment, and potentially more price increases later this year.</p><p>With expectations for more price cuts, Bernstein thinks shares are overvalued. His 12-month price target of $150 for the stock implies nearly 23% downside from where the stock is trading at the time of this writing.</p><h2>There's a good explanation for more inventory</h2><p>While Sacconaghi's take is worth taking into consideration, investors should note that there's a good reason for Tesla's inventory build. The company explained in its fourth-quarter update that it has been working toward a gradual shift toward a more balanced regional mix of production and deliveries throughout the year. This effort could have led to some inventory build as Tesla prioritizes lower costs over delivery speed when it comes to shipping its vehicles. Given Tesla's effort to better balance and optimize its vehicle shipment process, its inventory of vehicles will likely gradually increase throughout the year.</p><p>With this said, more price cuts are certainly possible. If any do occur, investors may want to look for answers from management in earnings calls throughout the year.</p></body></html>","source":"fool_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock: Headed to $150?</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock: Headed to $150?\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-04-05 06:30 GMT+8 <a href=https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/04/04/tesla-stock-headed-to-150/><strong>Motley Fool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>KEY POINTSFollowing Tesla's first-quarter vehicle deliveries update, this analyst thinks the stock will underperform.The analyst's price target for the growth stock suggests shares could lose more ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/04/04/tesla-stock-headed-to-150/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4527":"明星科技股","IE00BSNM7G36.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN SYSTEMATIC GLOBAL SUSTAINABLE VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","BK4588":"碎股","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","LU2249611893.SGD":"BNP PARIBAS ENERGY TRANSITION \"CRH\" (SGD) ACC","LU0820561909.HKD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AM\" (HKD) INC","LU0234572021.USD":"高盛美国核心股票组合Acc","LU2063271972.USD":"富兰克林创新领域基金","BK4551":"寇图资本持仓","BK4574":"无人驾驶","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","LU0823414478.USD":"法巴经典能源转换基金","LU0097036916.USD":"贝莱德美国增长A2 USD","LU0689472784.USD":"安联收益及增长基金Cl AM AT Acc","BK4581":"高盛持仓","LU2087621335.USD":"ALLSPRING GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU2326559502.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity P/A SGD-H","LU1852331112.SGD":"Blackrock World Technology Fund A2 SGD-H","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU1720051017.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence AT Acc H2-SGD","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","BK4511":"特斯拉概念","LU0316494557.USD":"FRANKLIN GLOBAL FUNDAMENTAL STRATEGIES \"A\" ACC","BK4099":"汽车制造商","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","LU0820561818.USD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金Cl AM DIS","LU1861558580.USD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B","LU1551013425.SGD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS H2-SGD","LU0348723411.USD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL HI-TECH GROWTH \"A\" (USD) INC","LU0943347566.SGD":"安联收益及增长平衡基金AM H2-SGD","LU1720051108.HKD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE \"AT\" (HKD) ACC","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","LU0234570918.USD":"高盛全球核心股票组合Acc Close","LU2357305700.SGD":"Allianz Global Artificial Intelligence ET H2-SGD","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","LU1429558221.USD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA USD","LU1839511570.USD":"WELLS FARGO GLOBAL FACTOR ENHANCED EQUITY \"I\" (USD) ACC","LU1861559042.SGD":"日兴方舟颠覆性创新基金B SGD","LU0053666078.USD":"摩根大通基金-美国股票A(离岸)美元","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","LU0823411888.USD":"法巴消费创新基金 Cap","BK4555":"新能源车","LU1435385759.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity RA SGD-H","LU1551013342.USD":"Allianz Income and Growth Cl AMg2 DIS USD","LU0082616367.USD":"摩根大通美国科技A(dist)","LU0719512351.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - US Technology A (acc) SGD","LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","IE00B1XK9C88.USD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A\" (USD) ACC"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/04/04/tesla-stock-headed-to-150/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2324887333","content_text":"KEY POINTSFollowing Tesla's first-quarter vehicle deliveries update, this analyst thinks the stock will underperform.The analyst's price target for the growth stock suggests shares could lose more than a fifth of their value.But is the analyst's concern about Tesla's growing inventory fair?Shares of Tesla tanked on Monday, following the company's release of its first-quarter vehicle production and deliveries data. While deliveries grew nicely year over year, it apparently wasn't enough to excite Wall Street. As analysts digested the report, their published viewpoints on the update have been mixed. Some analysts were pleased with the 36% year-over-year growth. But others admitted that the nearly 423,000 deliveries were underwhelming.In this article, we'll take a look at one of the more bearish analyst takes following Tesla's update on production and deliveries. One analyst reiterated an underperform rating for the stock and a $150 12-month price target. Here's what's behind his pessimistic view for the growth stock. More price cuts to come?Earlier this year, Tesla rolled out major price cuts for its vehicle lineup. This sparked concerns in the media about potential demand softening. But Tesla CEO Elon Musk said in the company's fourth-quarter earnings call that the lower prices were driving a significant surge in orders.Investors ultimately warmed up to the idea of price cuts, evidenced by the stock's soaring price year to date. Further, part of the price cut was essentially giving back price increases that occurred in the prior year, as higher costs led Tesla to raise prices on its vehicles. As some of Tesla's costs started to normalize more recently, it made sense for the company to pass those savings on to customers through reduced prices. After all, lower prices do typically drive higher unit sales.But Bernstein analyst Toni Sacconaghi thinks that there are more price cuts to come. He notes that Tesla's vehicle inventory, while still low, has been growing. Further, the wait time between a new order of a Tesla vehicle in the U.S. and the expected delivery window is currently low on all models except Tesla's Model Y, Sacconaghi says. He thinks these things point to signs of a tough demand environment, and potentially more price increases later this year.With expectations for more price cuts, Bernstein thinks shares are overvalued. His 12-month price target of $150 for the stock implies nearly 23% downside from where the stock is trading at the time of this writing.There's a good explanation for more inventoryWhile Sacconaghi's take is worth taking into consideration, investors should note that there's a good reason for Tesla's inventory build. The company explained in its fourth-quarter update that it has been working toward a gradual shift toward a more balanced regional mix of production and deliveries throughout the year. This effort could have led to some inventory build as Tesla prioritizes lower costs over delivery speed when it comes to shipping its vehicles. Given Tesla's effort to better balance and optimize its vehicle shipment process, its inventory of vehicles will likely gradually increase throughout the year.With this said, more price cuts are certainly possible. If any do occur, investors may want to look for answers from management in earnings calls throughout the year.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":341,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9941885614,"gmtCreate":1680129256438,"gmtModify":1680129259436,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Ok","listText":"Ok","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941885614","repostId":"2323622606","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":342,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9941177549,"gmtCreate":1680090785382,"gmtModify":1680090789388,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Let see who have the guts and able to invest with wisdom ","listText":"Let see who have the guts and able to invest with wisdom ","text":"Let see who have the guts and able to invest with wisdom","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941177549","repostId":"1129951895","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1129951895","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1680056088,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129951895?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-29 10:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129951895","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a prob","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Tesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.</li><li>This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.</li><li>A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.</li><li>Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.</li><li>I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>jetcityimage</p><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla's news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle ("EV"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a "good" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the "next Apple" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8 <a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":296,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9943142579,"gmtCreate":1679312940292,"gmtModify":1679312944989,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Buy","listText":"Buy","text":"Buy","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9943142579","repostId":"1196849272","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1196849272","kind":"news","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Providing stock market headlines, business news, financials and earnings ","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Tiger Newspress","id":"1079075236","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba"},"pubTimestamp":1679300908,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1196849272?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-20 16:28","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Credit Suisse Shares Slump Almost 60% in Premarket Trading After UBS Deal","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1196849272","media":"Tiger Newspress","summary":"Shares in Credit Suisse dropped almost 60% in premarket trading Monday after rival UBS agreed at the","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Shares in Credit Suisse dropped almost 60% in premarket trading Monday after rival UBS agreed at the weekend to take over the 167-year old bank for $3 billion.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3a1aecc150b2a10dd54b1472798d5ce5\" tg-width=\"833\" tg-height=\"621\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>"The next few hours of trading will give us a better picture on whether the crisis is contained," Ipek Ozkardeskaya, a senior analyst at Swissquote Bank, said.</p><p>"In theory, there is no reason for the Credit Suisse crisis to extend, as what triggered the last quake for Credit Suisse was a confidence crisis – which doesn't concern UBS - a bank outside of the turmoil, with, in addition, ample liquidity and guarantee from the SNB and the government." SNB refers to the Swiss National Bank.</p><p>In a package orchestrated by Swiss regulators on Sunday, UBS will pay 3 billion Swiss francs ($3.23 billion) for 167-year-old Credit Suisse and assume up to $5.4 billion in losses.</p><p>($1 = 0.9274 Swiss francs)</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Credit Suisse Shares Slump Almost 60% in Premarket Trading After UBS Deal</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nCredit Suisse Shares Slump Almost 60% in Premarket Trading After UBS Deal\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1079075236\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/8274c5b9d4c2852bfb1c4d6ce16c68ba);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Tiger Newspress </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2023-03-20 16:28</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>Shares in Credit Suisse dropped almost 60% in premarket trading Monday after rival UBS agreed at the weekend to take over the 167-year old bank for $3 billion.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3a1aecc150b2a10dd54b1472798d5ce5\" tg-width=\"833\" tg-height=\"621\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>"The next few hours of trading will give us a better picture on whether the crisis is contained," Ipek Ozkardeskaya, a senior analyst at Swissquote Bank, said.</p><p>"In theory, there is no reason for the Credit Suisse crisis to extend, as what triggered the last quake for Credit Suisse was a confidence crisis – which doesn't concern UBS - a bank outside of the turmoil, with, in addition, ample liquidity and guarantee from the SNB and the government." SNB refers to the Swiss National Bank.</p><p>In a package orchestrated by Swiss regulators on Sunday, UBS will pay 3 billion Swiss francs ($3.23 billion) for 167-year-old Credit Suisse and assume up to $5.4 billion in losses.</p><p>($1 = 0.9274 Swiss francs)</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"UBS":"瑞银"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"1196849272","content_text":"Shares in Credit Suisse dropped almost 60% in premarket trading Monday after rival UBS agreed at the weekend to take over the 167-year old bank for $3 billion.\"The next few hours of trading will give us a better picture on whether the crisis is contained,\" Ipek Ozkardeskaya, a senior analyst at Swissquote Bank, said.\"In theory, there is no reason for the Credit Suisse crisis to extend, as what triggered the last quake for Credit Suisse was a confidence crisis – which doesn't concern UBS - a bank outside of the turmoil, with, in addition, ample liquidity and guarantee from the SNB and the government.\" SNB refers to the Swiss National Bank.In a package orchestrated by Swiss regulators on Sunday, UBS will pay 3 billion Swiss francs ($3.23 billion) for 167-year-old Credit Suisse and assume up to $5.4 billion in losses.($1 = 0.9274 Swiss francs)","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":449,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9960054352,"gmtCreate":1668037460376,"gmtModify":1676538001036,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Expected ","listText":"Expected ","text":"Expected","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":8,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9960054352","repostId":"2282353541","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2282353541","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Reuters.com brings you the latest news from around the world, covering breaking news in markets, business, politics, entertainment and technology","home_visible":1,"media_name":"Reuters","id":"1036604489","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868"},"pubTimestamp":1668047258,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2282353541?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-11-10 10:27","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Wall Street Ends Lower After Midterm Election, CPI in Focus","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2282353541","media":"Reuters","summary":"*$Meta Platforms(META)$ gains on decision to cut 11,000 jobs*Disney sees biggest one-day drop since 2001 after report*Indexes: S&P 500 -2.08%, Nasdaq -2.48%, Dow -1.95%Nov 9 (Reuters) - Wall Street en","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>* <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/META\">Meta Platforms</a> gains on decision to cut 11,000 jobs</p><p>* Disney sees biggest one-day drop since 2001 after report</p><p>* Indexes: S&P 500 -2.08%, Nasdaq -2.48%, Dow -1.95%</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c7d9dcea179028fdb2feafbd467d08d9\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"1920\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Nov 9 (Reuters) - Wall Street ended sharply lower on Wednesday as Republican gains in midterm elections appeared more modest than some expected, with investors also focusing on upcoming inflation data that will provide clues about the severity of future interest rate hikes.</p><p>Republicans were still favored to win control of the House of Representatives but key races were too close to call, with a better-than-expected showing by Democrats diminishing the prospect of a so-called red wave of Republican gains.</p><p>"What was really more expected in the market was a red wave," said Jay Hatfield, CEO of Infrastructure Capital Management in New York. "I think we were in a unique situation where the more the Republicans won, the better off the market would have been. At least there would have been some stocks strongly rallying, like defense and energy stocks."</p><p>Also hurting sentiment, Walt Disney Co tumbled 13% - its biggest one-day drop since 2001 - after the entertainment heavyweight reported more losses from its push into streaming video.</p><p>Tesla Inc dropped 7.2% to a two-year low after Chief Executive Elon Musk late on Tuesday disclosed that he sold $3.95 billion worth of shares in the electric-vehicle maker days after he closed the $44 billion deal for Twitter Inc.</p><p>Clean energy shares, which typically benefit under a Democratic leadership, rose, with the Invesco Solar ETF up almost 1%.</p><p>Wednesday's drop on Wall Street ended a three-day rally in which the S&P 500 had gained almost 3%.</p><p>With the election outcome still uncertain, investors were turning their attention to October inflation data due out on Thursday, which could shed more light on whether the Fed might soften its aggressive stance on interest rate hikes.</p><p>"CPI is one of the more important inputs in terms of the inflation environment. You'd be hard-pressed to find many investors that want to make a big bet in front of (the report)," said Art Hogan, chief market strategist at B. Riley Financial.</p><p>Major indexes added to declines as Treasury yields climbed further after a poor auction of 10-year notes by the U.S. Treasury. Treasury yields reversed and fell later in the day.</p><p>Traders are split over whether the Fed will raise rates by 50 basis points or 75 basis points in December, according to CME Group's Fedwatch tool.</p><p>The S&P 500 declined 2.08% to end the session at 3,748.57 points.</p><p>The Nasdaq declined 2.48% to 10,353.18 points, while the Dow Jones Industrial Average declined 1.95% to 32,513.94 points.</p><p>Investors also fretted about the health of major cryptocurrency exchange FTX after a deal to buy it collapsed as bigger rival Binance said it was pulling out.</p><p>Meta Platforms Inc jumped about 5% after the Facebook parent said it was cutting 13% of its workforce, or more than 11,000 employees, in one of the biggest tech layoffs this year.</p><p>Wendy's Co rallied 3% after the hamburger chain reported quarterly sales and profit that beat analysts' estimates.</p><p>Declining stocks outnumbered rising ones within the S&P 500 by a 11.9-to-one ratio.</p><p>The S&P 500 posted 10 new highs and 16 new lows; the Nasdaq recorded 69 new highs and 463 new lows.</p><p>Volume on U.S. exchanges was relatively light, with 11.6 billion shares traded, compared with an average of 11.8 billion shares over the previous 20 sessions.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Wall Street Ends Lower After Midterm Election, CPI in Focus</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nWall Street Ends Lower After Midterm Election, CPI in Focus\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<a class=\"head\" href=\"https://laohu8.com/wemedia/1036604489\">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/443ce19704621c837795676028cec868);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Reuters </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2022-11-10 10:27</p>\n</div>\n\n</a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>* <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/META\">Meta Platforms</a> gains on decision to cut 11,000 jobs</p><p>* Disney sees biggest one-day drop since 2001 after report</p><p>* Indexes: S&P 500 -2.08%, Nasdaq -2.48%, Dow -1.95%</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c7d9dcea179028fdb2feafbd467d08d9\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"1920\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>Nov 9 (Reuters) - Wall Street ended sharply lower on Wednesday as Republican gains in midterm elections appeared more modest than some expected, with investors also focusing on upcoming inflation data that will provide clues about the severity of future interest rate hikes.</p><p>Republicans were still favored to win control of the House of Representatives but key races were too close to call, with a better-than-expected showing by Democrats diminishing the prospect of a so-called red wave of Republican gains.</p><p>"What was really more expected in the market was a red wave," said Jay Hatfield, CEO of Infrastructure Capital Management in New York. "I think we were in a unique situation where the more the Republicans won, the better off the market would have been. At least there would have been some stocks strongly rallying, like defense and energy stocks."</p><p>Also hurting sentiment, Walt Disney Co tumbled 13% - its biggest one-day drop since 2001 - after the entertainment heavyweight reported more losses from its push into streaming video.</p><p>Tesla Inc dropped 7.2% to a two-year low after Chief Executive Elon Musk late on Tuesday disclosed that he sold $3.95 billion worth of shares in the electric-vehicle maker days after he closed the $44 billion deal for Twitter Inc.</p><p>Clean energy shares, which typically benefit under a Democratic leadership, rose, with the Invesco Solar ETF up almost 1%.</p><p>Wednesday's drop on Wall Street ended a three-day rally in which the S&P 500 had gained almost 3%.</p><p>With the election outcome still uncertain, investors were turning their attention to October inflation data due out on Thursday, which could shed more light on whether the Fed might soften its aggressive stance on interest rate hikes.</p><p>"CPI is one of the more important inputs in terms of the inflation environment. You'd be hard-pressed to find many investors that want to make a big bet in front of (the report)," said Art Hogan, chief market strategist at B. Riley Financial.</p><p>Major indexes added to declines as Treasury yields climbed further after a poor auction of 10-year notes by the U.S. Treasury. Treasury yields reversed and fell later in the day.</p><p>Traders are split over whether the Fed will raise rates by 50 basis points or 75 basis points in December, according to CME Group's Fedwatch tool.</p><p>The S&P 500 declined 2.08% to end the session at 3,748.57 points.</p><p>The Nasdaq declined 2.48% to 10,353.18 points, while the Dow Jones Industrial Average declined 1.95% to 32,513.94 points.</p><p>Investors also fretted about the health of major cryptocurrency exchange FTX after a deal to buy it collapsed as bigger rival Binance said it was pulling out.</p><p>Meta Platforms Inc jumped about 5% after the Facebook parent said it was cutting 13% of its workforce, or more than 11,000 employees, in one of the biggest tech layoffs this year.</p><p>Wendy's Co rallied 3% after the hamburger chain reported quarterly sales and profit that beat analysts' estimates.</p><p>Declining stocks outnumbered rising ones within the S&P 500 by a 11.9-to-one ratio.</p><p>The S&P 500 posted 10 new highs and 16 new lows; the Nasdaq recorded 69 new highs and 463 new lows.</p><p>Volume on U.S. exchanges was relatively light, with 11.6 billion shares traded, compared with an average of 11.8 billion shares over the previous 20 sessions.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{".IXIC":"NASDAQ Composite","META":"Meta Platforms, Inc.","WEN":"温蒂汉堡",".SPX":"S&P 500 Index","TSLA":"特斯拉","DIS":"迪士尼",".DJI":"道琼斯"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2282353541","content_text":"* Meta Platforms gains on decision to cut 11,000 jobs* Disney sees biggest one-day drop since 2001 after report* Indexes: S&P 500 -2.08%, Nasdaq -2.48%, Dow -1.95%Nov 9 (Reuters) - Wall Street ended sharply lower on Wednesday as Republican gains in midterm elections appeared more modest than some expected, with investors also focusing on upcoming inflation data that will provide clues about the severity of future interest rate hikes.Republicans were still favored to win control of the House of Representatives but key races were too close to call, with a better-than-expected showing by Democrats diminishing the prospect of a so-called red wave of Republican gains.\"What was really more expected in the market was a red wave,\" said Jay Hatfield, CEO of Infrastructure Capital Management in New York. \"I think we were in a unique situation where the more the Republicans won, the better off the market would have been. At least there would have been some stocks strongly rallying, like defense and energy stocks.\"Also hurting sentiment, Walt Disney Co tumbled 13% - its biggest one-day drop since 2001 - after the entertainment heavyweight reported more losses from its push into streaming video.Tesla Inc dropped 7.2% to a two-year low after Chief Executive Elon Musk late on Tuesday disclosed that he sold $3.95 billion worth of shares in the electric-vehicle maker days after he closed the $44 billion deal for Twitter Inc.Clean energy shares, which typically benefit under a Democratic leadership, rose, with the Invesco Solar ETF up almost 1%.Wednesday's drop on Wall Street ended a three-day rally in which the S&P 500 had gained almost 3%.With the election outcome still uncertain, investors were turning their attention to October inflation data due out on Thursday, which could shed more light on whether the Fed might soften its aggressive stance on interest rate hikes.\"CPI is one of the more important inputs in terms of the inflation environment. You'd be hard-pressed to find many investors that want to make a big bet in front of (the report),\" said Art Hogan, chief market strategist at B. Riley Financial.Major indexes added to declines as Treasury yields climbed further after a poor auction of 10-year notes by the U.S. Treasury. Treasury yields reversed and fell later in the day.Traders are split over whether the Fed will raise rates by 50 basis points or 75 basis points in December, according to CME Group's Fedwatch tool.The S&P 500 declined 2.08% to end the session at 3,748.57 points.The Nasdaq declined 2.48% to 10,353.18 points, while the Dow Jones Industrial Average declined 1.95% to 32,513.94 points.Investors also fretted about the health of major cryptocurrency exchange FTX after a deal to buy it collapsed as bigger rival Binance said it was pulling out.Meta Platforms Inc jumped about 5% after the Facebook parent said it was cutting 13% of its workforce, or more than 11,000 employees, in one of the biggest tech layoffs this year.Wendy's Co rallied 3% after the hamburger chain reported quarterly sales and profit that beat analysts' estimates.Declining stocks outnumbered rising ones within the S&P 500 by a 11.9-to-one ratio.The S&P 500 posted 10 new highs and 16 new lows; the Nasdaq recorded 69 new highs and 463 new lows.Volume on U.S. exchanges was relatively light, with 11.6 billion shares traded, compared with an average of 11.8 billion shares over the previous 20 sessions.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":536,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9911261674,"gmtCreate":1664223435098,"gmtModify":1676537411291,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"[Great] ","listText":"[Great] ","text":"[Great]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9911261674","repostId":"2270505400","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2270505400","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1664205741,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2270505400?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-09-26 23:22","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Investing in This ETF Right Now Could Make You a Millionaire Retiree","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2270505400","media":"MotleyFool","summary":"The SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust is a low-cost index ETF that attempts to track the S&P 500 index, which is often used as a proxy for the overall US stock market. With itd expense ratio of 0.09%, investors in that ETF can get returns that nearly perfectly match that index, while losing almost nothing to fund management fees.That combination of stock market like returns with very low internal costs makes the SPDR S&P 500 ETF trust a simple, one-stop shop for investors. It's especially potent for invest","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>With the market down substantially from its all-time highs, the benefits of dollar-cost averaging into a low-cost, broad-based stock index fund are becoming quite clear. By making regular investments every payday in this market, each dollar you're investing buys that many more shares while stocks are down. That may not seem like much benefit now, but it means you've got that many more shares available to compound in any recovery that follows.</p><p>It's with that backdrop that making regular investments in the <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SPY\">SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust</a> starting now could make you a millionaire retiree. It's a process that takes time no matter what the market is doing, which is a great reason to consider starting those investments now, even if the market continues to fall.</p><h2>Why invest in the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust?</h2><p>The SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust is a low-cost index ETF that attempts to track the <b>S&P 500</b> index, which is often used as a proxy for the overall US stock market. With itd expense ratio of 0.09%, investors in that ETF can get returns that nearly perfectly match that index, while losing almost nothing to fund management fees.</p><p>That combination of stock market like returns with very low internal costs makes the SPDR S&P 500 ETF trust a simple, one-stop shop for investors. It's especially potent for investors who don't want or are otherwise unable to put a lot of time and effort into digging through financial reports to pick individual stocks. When you add the fact that index investing tends to beat funds managed by Wall Street's best and brightest over time, the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust become an even more compelling option.</p><h2>How long will it take to become a millionaire?</h2><p>The path from $0 to $1 million depends heavily on two key factors: how much you're able to invest every month and what rate of return you earn along the way. The good news is that if you've got a long enough time horizon, reaching millionaire status by retirement age is feasible, even for people with modest incomes.</p><p>The following table shows how many years it takes to reach that millionaire status, depending on what you can save each month and what annual rate of return you earn along the way.</p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8d66accc5150914ff4292fce34ed09aa\" tg-width=\"1210\" tg-height=\"408\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data source: author.<table><thead><tr></tr></thead></table><p>The top end of that savings rate -- $2,200 per month -- represents a savings rate that can be contributed to tax-advantaged, retirement-focused accounts for most people. Workers under age 50 can generally contribute up to $20,500 per year in a company-sponsored retirement plan like a 401(k). They can also typically sock away up to $6,000 per year in their own IRA. (The contribution limits are even higher for workers ages 50 and up. )</p><p>The bottom end of that savings rate -- $300 per month -- works out to around $10 per day. Even at that savings level, as long as you invest consistently throughout the length of a typical working career, you've got a decent shot at reaching millionaire status by the time you retire.</p><h2>Get started now</h2><p>Regardless of where you are in your career, you'll never again have more time before you retire than you do right now. That makes today a great day to get your plan in place. The sooner you get started, the more of the cells in that table will be within your reach, improving your chances of retiring a millionaire.</p></body></html>","source":"motleyfoolau_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Investing in This ETF Right Now Could Make You a Millionaire Retiree</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nInvesting in This ETF Right Now Could Make You a Millionaire Retiree\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-09-26 23:22 GMT+8 <a href=https://www.fool.com.au/2022/09/26/investing-in-this-etf-right-now-could-make-you-a-millionaire-retiree-usfeed/><strong>MotleyFool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>With the market down substantially from its all-time highs, the benefits of dollar-cost averaging into a low-cost, broad-based stock index fund are becoming quite clear. By making regular investments ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com.au/2022/09/26/investing-in-this-etf-right-now-could-make-you-a-millionaire-retiree-usfeed/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"SPY":"标普500ETF"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com.au/2022/09/26/investing-in-this-etf-right-now-could-make-you-a-millionaire-retiree-usfeed/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2270505400","content_text":"With the market down substantially from its all-time highs, the benefits of dollar-cost averaging into a low-cost, broad-based stock index fund are becoming quite clear. By making regular investments every payday in this market, each dollar you're investing buys that many more shares while stocks are down. That may not seem like much benefit now, but it means you've got that many more shares available to compound in any recovery that follows.It's with that backdrop that making regular investments in the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust starting now could make you a millionaire retiree. It's a process that takes time no matter what the market is doing, which is a great reason to consider starting those investments now, even if the market continues to fall.Why invest in the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust?The SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust is a low-cost index ETF that attempts to track the S&P 500 index, which is often used as a proxy for the overall US stock market. With itd expense ratio of 0.09%, investors in that ETF can get returns that nearly perfectly match that index, while losing almost nothing to fund management fees.That combination of stock market like returns with very low internal costs makes the SPDR S&P 500 ETF trust a simple, one-stop shop for investors. It's especially potent for investors who don't want or are otherwise unable to put a lot of time and effort into digging through financial reports to pick individual stocks. When you add the fact that index investing tends to beat funds managed by Wall Street's best and brightest over time, the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust become an even more compelling option.How long will it take to become a millionaire?The path from $0 to $1 million depends heavily on two key factors: how much you're able to invest every month and what rate of return you earn along the way. The good news is that if you've got a long enough time horizon, reaching millionaire status by retirement age is feasible, even for people with modest incomes.The following table shows how many years it takes to reach that millionaire status, depending on what you can save each month and what annual rate of return you earn along the way.Data source: author.The top end of that savings rate -- $2,200 per month -- represents a savings rate that can be contributed to tax-advantaged, retirement-focused accounts for most people. Workers under age 50 can generally contribute up to $20,500 per year in a company-sponsored retirement plan like a 401(k). They can also typically sock away up to $6,000 per year in their own IRA. (The contribution limits are even higher for workers ages 50 and up. )The bottom end of that savings rate -- $300 per month -- works out to around $10 per day. Even at that savings level, as long as you invest consistently throughout the length of a typical working career, you've got a decent shot at reaching millionaire status by the time you retire.Get started nowRegardless of where you are in your career, you'll never again have more time before you retire than you do right now. That makes today a great day to get your plan in place. The sooner you get started, the more of the cells in that table will be within your reach, improving your chances of retiring a millionaire.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":548,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9911856201,"gmtCreate":1664179456803,"gmtModify":1676537404038,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"like","listText":"like","text":"like","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9911856201","repostId":"2270412558","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2270412558","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Dow Jones publishes the world’s most trusted business news and financial information in a variety of media.","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Dow Jones","id":"106","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99"},"pubTimestamp":1664154917,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2270412558?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-09-26 09:15","market":"us","language":"en","title":"The Stock Market Is Reeling. Here's What Could Stop the Pain","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2270412558","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"After one of the worst weeks for the stock market in 2022, two factors could swing the market over t","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>After one of the worst weeks for the stock market in 2022, two factors could swing the market over the next few days and set investors up for a tumultuous fourth quarter.</p><p>The market is reeling after a broad selloff on Friday, capping off a two-week swoon that took the S&P 500 down 9.2%, to 3693. The index is down 23% from its January peak. Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell has made it clear that the Fed’s primary concern is inflation, and the central bank is willing to impose financial pain to bring it down. Investors are increasingly believing him.</p><p>That means that the market is likely to swing on two main themes over the next few weeks—inflation data and any hints of what the Fed plans to do in their next few meetings. In the next week, more of those hints could be on their way.</p><p>Investors will hear from quite a few Fed officials and will be watching closely for language that indicates any splits among the board members. Twelve of the 19 Fed governors and presidents are speaking this coming week, “with virtually all appearances potentially touching on the economic outlook or monetary policy,” notes Deutsche Bank economists led by Brett Ryan.</p><p>While all of the Fed members appear intent on continuing to increase rates from the current 3.0%-3.25% range, there are important disagreements too. For instance, the “dot-plots” that track where Fed officials see economic data and interest rates in the future show that members are evenly split between those who expect Federal Funds rates to peak at 4.75% next year, and those who see 4.5% and 4.25% as the top rates. Those might seem like relatively small differences, but they could make a big difference in the market, given how closely investors are watching rates. If Fed officials start leaning toward more dovish policy—raising interest rates more gradually—the market is likely to rise. But that still feels like a long shot. Deutsche Bank, for its part, expects rates will have to rise to 5%, which would likely be a negative for investors.</p><p>Powell himself will appear twice in the coming week. “All three members of Fed leadership will speak, with Powell taking part in a panel on digital currencies on Tuesday and on Wednesday giving welcoming remarks at a community banking conference, at which Gov. Bowman will also appear,” Ryan wrote.</p><p>In addition, there will be some data releases that could impact the market. On Thursday, the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) will release its third estimate of second-quarter gross domestic product, and potentially revise some older figures too. Because it’s a backward-looking number, GDP often doesn’t move the market much. But any further sign that the economy is already in recession could impact investor sentiment. It could also impact the Fed’s willingness to plunge the economy into a deeper recession if it becomes more clear that a recession has begun. The last estimate of second-quarter GDP was a decline of 0.6%, following a 1.3% decline in the first quarter.</p><p>New data on durable goods, consumption, and other economic activity will also help forecasters estimate third-quarter gross domestic product. Another quarter of declines would make it more clear that the economy is already in recession—and test the Fed’s willingness to make the economic pain worse.</p><p>The biggest news is likely to come on Friday, though. The BEA will release the personal-consumption expenditures price index, a key measure of inflation that the Fed watches closely. That index rose 6.8% year over year in June—its highest level since 1982—and moderated to 6.3% in July. The core PCE index, taking out food and energy, was up 4.6%. Analysts expect the core PCE to rise 4.7% in August.</p><p>Even with all these Fed officials planning to speak and important data releases, it’s unlikely that there will be enough clarity in the coming week about the path of rate hikes to determine where stocks will head for the rest of the year. Goldman Sachs on Friday reduced its 2022 S&P 500 target to 3,600 from 4,300—another sign that Wall Street does not see a near-term reprieve for the market.</p><p>“Over the next couple of weeks, long-term investors may hesitate buying into weakness because it doesn’t seem like any economic data release or Fed speak will convince markets that a downshift from this aggressive tightening campaign will be happening anytime soon,” wrote Oanda analyst Edward Moya. “Downside targets for the S&P 500 include the 3,470 level, which might look attractive for some long-term investors.”</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>The Stock Market Is Reeling. Here's What Could Stop the Pain</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThe Stock Market Is Reeling. Here's What Could Stop the Pain\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2022-09-26 09:15</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>After one of the worst weeks for the stock market in 2022, two factors could swing the market over the next few days and set investors up for a tumultuous fourth quarter.</p><p>The market is reeling after a broad selloff on Friday, capping off a two-week swoon that took the S&P 500 down 9.2%, to 3693. The index is down 23% from its January peak. Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell has made it clear that the Fed’s primary concern is inflation, and the central bank is willing to impose financial pain to bring it down. Investors are increasingly believing him.</p><p>That means that the market is likely to swing on two main themes over the next few weeks—inflation data and any hints of what the Fed plans to do in their next few meetings. In the next week, more of those hints could be on their way.</p><p>Investors will hear from quite a few Fed officials and will be watching closely for language that indicates any splits among the board members. Twelve of the 19 Fed governors and presidents are speaking this coming week, “with virtually all appearances potentially touching on the economic outlook or monetary policy,” notes Deutsche Bank economists led by Brett Ryan.</p><p>While all of the Fed members appear intent on continuing to increase rates from the current 3.0%-3.25% range, there are important disagreements too. For instance, the “dot-plots” that track where Fed officials see economic data and interest rates in the future show that members are evenly split between those who expect Federal Funds rates to peak at 4.75% next year, and those who see 4.5% and 4.25% as the top rates. Those might seem like relatively small differences, but they could make a big difference in the market, given how closely investors are watching rates. If Fed officials start leaning toward more dovish policy—raising interest rates more gradually—the market is likely to rise. But that still feels like a long shot. Deutsche Bank, for its part, expects rates will have to rise to 5%, which would likely be a negative for investors.</p><p>Powell himself will appear twice in the coming week. “All three members of Fed leadership will speak, with Powell taking part in a panel on digital currencies on Tuesday and on Wednesday giving welcoming remarks at a community banking conference, at which Gov. Bowman will also appear,” Ryan wrote.</p><p>In addition, there will be some data releases that could impact the market. On Thursday, the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) will release its third estimate of second-quarter gross domestic product, and potentially revise some older figures too. Because it’s a backward-looking number, GDP often doesn’t move the market much. But any further sign that the economy is already in recession could impact investor sentiment. It could also impact the Fed’s willingness to plunge the economy into a deeper recession if it becomes more clear that a recession has begun. The last estimate of second-quarter GDP was a decline of 0.6%, following a 1.3% decline in the first quarter.</p><p>New data on durable goods, consumption, and other economic activity will also help forecasters estimate third-quarter gross domestic product. Another quarter of declines would make it more clear that the economy is already in recession—and test the Fed’s willingness to make the economic pain worse.</p><p>The biggest news is likely to come on Friday, though. The BEA will release the personal-consumption expenditures price index, a key measure of inflation that the Fed watches closely. That index rose 6.8% year over year in June—its highest level since 1982—and moderated to 6.3% in July. The core PCE index, taking out food and energy, was up 4.6%. Analysts expect the core PCE to rise 4.7% in August.</p><p>Even with all these Fed officials planning to speak and important data releases, it’s unlikely that there will be enough clarity in the coming week about the path of rate hikes to determine where stocks will head for the rest of the year. Goldman Sachs on Friday reduced its 2022 S&P 500 target to 3,600 from 4,300—another sign that Wall Street does not see a near-term reprieve for the market.</p><p>“Over the next couple of weeks, long-term investors may hesitate buying into weakness because it doesn’t seem like any economic data release or Fed speak will convince markets that a downshift from this aggressive tightening campaign will be happening anytime soon,” wrote Oanda analyst Edward Moya. “Downside targets for the S&P 500 include the 3,470 level, which might look attractive for some long-term investors.”</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"161125":"标普500","513500":"标普500ETF","SPXU":"三倍做空标普500ETF","UPRO":"三倍做多标普500ETF","BK4504":"桥水持仓",".SPX":"S&P 500 Index","OEX":"标普100","SSO":"两倍做多标普500ETF","SDS":"两倍做空标普500ETF","SH":"标普500反向ETF","IVV":"标普500指数ETF","BK4559":"巴菲特持仓","SPY":"标普500ETF","OEF":"标普100指数ETF-iShares","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","BK4581":"高盛持仓","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2270412558","content_text":"After one of the worst weeks for the stock market in 2022, two factors could swing the market over the next few days and set investors up for a tumultuous fourth quarter.The market is reeling after a broad selloff on Friday, capping off a two-week swoon that took the S&P 500 down 9.2%, to 3693. The index is down 23% from its January peak. Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell has made it clear that the Fed’s primary concern is inflation, and the central bank is willing to impose financial pain to bring it down. Investors are increasingly believing him.That means that the market is likely to swing on two main themes over the next few weeks—inflation data and any hints of what the Fed plans to do in their next few meetings. In the next week, more of those hints could be on their way.Investors will hear from quite a few Fed officials and will be watching closely for language that indicates any splits among the board members. Twelve of the 19 Fed governors and presidents are speaking this coming week, “with virtually all appearances potentially touching on the economic outlook or monetary policy,” notes Deutsche Bank economists led by Brett Ryan.While all of the Fed members appear intent on continuing to increase rates from the current 3.0%-3.25% range, there are important disagreements too. For instance, the “dot-plots” that track where Fed officials see economic data and interest rates in the future show that members are evenly split between those who expect Federal Funds rates to peak at 4.75% next year, and those who see 4.5% and 4.25% as the top rates. Those might seem like relatively small differences, but they could make a big difference in the market, given how closely investors are watching rates. If Fed officials start leaning toward more dovish policy—raising interest rates more gradually—the market is likely to rise. But that still feels like a long shot. Deutsche Bank, for its part, expects rates will have to rise to 5%, which would likely be a negative for investors.Powell himself will appear twice in the coming week. “All three members of Fed leadership will speak, with Powell taking part in a panel on digital currencies on Tuesday and on Wednesday giving welcoming remarks at a community banking conference, at which Gov. Bowman will also appear,” Ryan wrote.In addition, there will be some data releases that could impact the market. On Thursday, the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) will release its third estimate of second-quarter gross domestic product, and potentially revise some older figures too. Because it’s a backward-looking number, GDP often doesn’t move the market much. But any further sign that the economy is already in recession could impact investor sentiment. It could also impact the Fed’s willingness to plunge the economy into a deeper recession if it becomes more clear that a recession has begun. The last estimate of second-quarter GDP was a decline of 0.6%, following a 1.3% decline in the first quarter.New data on durable goods, consumption, and other economic activity will also help forecasters estimate third-quarter gross domestic product. Another quarter of declines would make it more clear that the economy is already in recession—and test the Fed’s willingness to make the economic pain worse.The biggest news is likely to come on Friday, though. The BEA will release the personal-consumption expenditures price index, a key measure of inflation that the Fed watches closely. That index rose 6.8% year over year in June—its highest level since 1982—and moderated to 6.3% in July. The core PCE index, taking out food and energy, was up 4.6%. Analysts expect the core PCE to rise 4.7% in August.Even with all these Fed officials planning to speak and important data releases, it’s unlikely that there will be enough clarity in the coming week about the path of rate hikes to determine where stocks will head for the rest of the year. Goldman Sachs on Friday reduced its 2022 S&P 500 target to 3,600 from 4,300—another sign that Wall Street does not see a near-term reprieve for the market.“Over the next couple of weeks, long-term investors may hesitate buying into weakness because it doesn’t seem like any economic data release or Fed speak will convince markets that a downshift from this aggressive tightening campaign will be happening anytime soon,” wrote Oanda analyst Edward Moya. “Downside targets for the S&P 500 include the 3,470 level, which might look attractive for some long-term investors.”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":385,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9919139218,"gmtCreate":1663747478835,"gmtModify":1676537328516,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"","listText":"","text":"","images":[{"img":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/3251a2e432586a1ec870880604f80a37"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9919139218","repostId":"2268917780","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2268917780","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1663732800,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2268917780?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-09-21 12:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Alibaba: The Charlie Munger And Li Lu Divergence","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2268917780","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryGreat minds think alike. But what is even more interesting is when they do not.Two of the mos","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Great minds think alike. But what is even more interesting is when they do not.</li><li>Two of the most successful investors of our time, Charlie Munger and Li Lu, diverge starkly on Alibaba.</li><li>A comparison of their views and actions best illustrates the opportunities and risks associated with the investment.</li><li>Risks commonly mentioned (VIE, delisting, etc.) are all symptoms to me, while Li Lu’s Civilization 2.5 theory offers a more fundamental explanation of the underlying cause.</li><li>Both bears and bulls can benefit from them and make more informed decisions.</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0942ec404ebc02752e62408a90fefc89\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"607\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>JuSun</span></p><h2>The investment thesis</h2><p>Charlie Munger needs no introduction, but some readers may need a bit more information on Li Lu. They have been close friends for almost 2 decades. Charlie Munger described Li Lu as the “Chinese Warren Buffett.” And to Li Lu, Munger has been a "mentor and good friend" (in Li Lu's own words). The following brief bio taken from Wikipedia provides a bit more info on Li Lu (slightly edited by me):</p><blockquote>Li Lu (born April 6, 1966) is a Chinese-born American value investor, businessman, and philanthropist. In 1997, he founded Himalaya Capital Management, known for its disciplined and value-oriented approach to investing. Li met Charlie Munger on Thanksgiving 2003 and they have been friends since. With Munger's help, Li transformed his hedge fund into a long-only investment vehicle which is currently focused on global investment opportunities. Munger has stated that Li Lu is the only outside manager he’s ever invested with and he’s described him as the “Chinese Warren Buffett.” Li Lu has been known as the man who introduced the Chinese battery and electric car maker BYD Company to Charlie Munger and Warren Buffett.</blockquote><p>It is interesting to observe that these two investors, who share both close friendship and also investing principles, diverge starkly on Alibaba Group Holding Limited (NYSE:BABA,OTCPK:BABAF). Munger has a large position in BABA, but Li Lu does not. And this leads us to the main topic of today. You will see a comparison of their views and actions best illustrates the opportunities and risks associated with the BABA investment. On the one side, the current BABA situation presents an opportunity to buy a good business on the operation table, a hallmark investment strategy from Munger. On the other hand, this article will also dive into the view of Li Lu, especially his view on the civilization 2.5 status in China, as elaborated immediately below.</p><h2>Li Lu, BABA, and Civilization 2.5</h2><p>Li Lu’s current holdings in his Himalaya Capital Management are shown in the chart below. As mentioned above, Munger described him as the “Chinese Warren Buffett.” But from his holdings, he is more Buffett than Buffett himself in terms of concentration. His portfolio consists of a total of 6 positions only and the largest position - Micron (MU) - represents almost 34% of the total portfolio size.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a0cfbdc8a33a6b476b854ac581dd6f60\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"157\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Source: dataroma.com</span></p><p>You can also see that half of his picks overlap with Munger and Warren Buffett. All three of them like Bank of America (BAC), Apple (AAPL), and of course Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A,BRK.B).</p><p>However, BABA is where he and Munger diverge. As to be detailed in the next Section, Munger holds a sizeable BABA position, but Li Lu does not. So naturally, it triggers the question: Why? Seeking Alpha authors have detailed many risks such as VIE, delisting, et al. To me, these are symptoms. In my view, Li Lu’s following Civilization 2.5 theory offers a more fundamental explanation of the underlying cause. The theory was presented in a lecture he gave in 2015, and I think it is worth quoting in full (the emphases were added by me). And readers are highly encouraged to read the transcript in its entirety:</p><blockquote>I believe China is at interim stage between Civilization 2.0 and Civilization 3.0.<i>Let’s call it Civilization 2.5. China has come a long way but still has a long road ahead.</i>Therefore, <i>I think there is a high probability that China will continue on the main track of Civilization 3.0, as the cost of deviation is very high.</i>If you have a good understanding of China’s culture, people and history, you will agree that China will forge forward. This is particularly the case now that you have a better understanding of the essence of modern civilization. There is almost no chance of China leaving the common market, and the probability of China changing its market rules is also very small. Thus, it is highly probable that, in the next 2 to 3 decades, China will remain in the global market system, and adhere to free market principles, in addition to promoting science & technology development.</blockquote><p>It will take time to go from Civilization 2.5 to 3.0. And surprises and setbacks like VIE and delisting are likely (plus a bunch more that we cannot even imagine today). So, given the timeframe and uncertainties, it is an understandable decision that some investors, Li Lu himself included, decided to stay on the sideline.</p><p>While Munger, apparently focused more on the opportunity side of the coin given that China will have no choice but to keep upgrading to 3.0 because “the cost of deviation is very high.” And we will elaborate on Munger's thinking and actions immediately below.</p><h2>Munger and BABA</h2><p>The following chart summarizes the key events that led to Munger’s actions. As you can see from the chart below, he started buying BABA shares in 2021 Q1, after a large correction in its share price caused by the cancellation of the highly anticipated Ant Group IPO. He then doubled down his stake in Alibaba twice: first in 2021 Q3, and then again in 2021 Q4.</p><p>There are certainly good reasons for Munger’s decision. In the near term, the market reacted too quickly to a series of short-term events based on perception (based on the information available at that time). And there is no lack of major events in the past 1 or 2 years as summarized in the chart (including a war, specifically the Russian/Ukraine war). As a result, even though BABA’s core business is intact, its valuation became too compressed when Munger pulled the trigger to double down his bets. It is a textbook reflection of his wisdom of buying a good business on the operating table. At the prices he bought into BABA, it was valued as a terminally cheap and stagnating business, while its core fundamentals not only remain intact but also well-positioned for growth.</p><p>In the longer term, as just mentioned, not only China will continue to upgrade to Civilization 3.0, but also other countries in the Asian Pacific region. And such an upgrade will present spectacular growth opportunities, and BABA is well-positioned to benefit from such an upgrade, as to be discussed next.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5f64d51b9956d82d5a712c375aa004d1\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"266\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Source: Author based on Yahoo data</span></p><h2>The upgrade to civilization 3.0 and BABA</h2><p>It is an unstopped trend that our world is moving toward e-commerce, and the epicenter of the remaining movement will be China and the Asian-Pacific region. Even though many of us are already impressed by the success of e-commerce giants like BABA and Amazon (AMZN), the movement toward e-commerce has just actually gotten started and the bulk of the growth is yet to come. The global e-commerce market size was valued at USD 9.09 trillion in 2019 and is expected to grow at a compound annual growth rate ("CAGR") of 14.7% from 2020 to 2027. The secular support is even stronger for BABA as the Asia Pacific region is already dominating the market for e-commerce with a share of 55.3% in 2019. Furthermore, this region is expected to witness the fastest growth from 2020 to 2027 as seen below. Even by as early as 2023 – in about 2 years that is - retail e-commerce sales in Asia-Pacific are projected to be greater than the rest of the world combined.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3e1c49046f66ec88ec7e79914feb0658\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"335\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>And BABA stands best poised to benefit from this upgrade, especially from the Asian-Pacific momentum. As argued in my earlier article:</p><blockquote><i>Capitalizing on the continued e-commerce growth requires a combination of scale and reach, government support, and technology. And also, finally, geographical proximity and cultural compatibility certainly help. And BABA has all these stars aligned for its further expansion – especially in the Asian-Pacific region. The China government might be tightening its regulations on its domestic market, but it certainly encourages the overseas expansion of its tech giants like BABA. And BABA has already accomplished a substantial lead in capturing overseas markets, with its close neighbors such as Indonesia and Vietnam posting revenue growth of over 100% YoY recently.</i></blockquote><p>Risks and final thoughts</p><p>To recap, the current BABA situation is a textbook example of high-risk and high-return investment opportunities. There are plenty of risks in the near term and also in the long term. There has been no lack of major events in the past 1- or 2-years surrounding BABA (Ant IPO, fine, VEI, delisting, et al). In the near term, the China-U.S. trade tension and global geopolitical frictions will keep the stock prices in a highly volatile state. And I am sure there be more hiccups and surprises that investors have not thought about yet showing up in the near future.</p><p>In the long term, China is going through an upgrade from civilization 2.5 to 3.0. I agree with Li Lu’s view that China will have no choice but to keep upgrading to 3.0 because “the cost of deviation is very high.” But at the same time, the path of the upgrade will be long and full of setbacks. Independent thinkers like Munger and Li, despite their opposite actions, are essentially betting on the two sides of the same coin.</p><p>I am siding with Munger there and betting on the opportunity side. All the risks and opportunities mentioned above should apply equally to major China tech firms. However, I think the market now overly exaggerates the risk side for BABA and underestimates the opportunity side, creating an asymmetric opportunity. As you can see from the following chart, both the valuation of BABA and JD.com (JD) has been compressed substantially in the past two years. You can see that by the downward trend of the three-year medium of their price to CFO multiple. Despite the common risks/opportunities and also comparable (or even superior profitability as argued in our recent article), BABA was so much more compressed than JD. Its current P/CFO stands at only 10.55x, about 25% below JD’s 13,.98x, and a whopping 43% below its 3-year median of 18.44x.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c588d4b31a546d6b45775d98e8bd545b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"312\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>This article was written by</span></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Alibaba: The Charlie Munger And Li Lu Divergence</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAlibaba: The Charlie Munger And Li Lu Divergence\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-09-21 12:00 GMT+8 <a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4541883-alibaba-the-charlie-munger-and-li-lu-divergence><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryGreat minds think alike. But what is even more interesting is when they do not.Two of the most successful investors of our time, Charlie Munger and Li Lu, diverge starkly on Alibaba.A ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4541883-alibaba-the-charlie-munger-and-li-lu-divergence\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"09988":"阿里巴巴-W","BABA":"阿里巴巴"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4541883-alibaba-the-charlie-munger-and-li-lu-divergence","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2268917780","content_text":"SummaryGreat minds think alike. But what is even more interesting is when they do not.Two of the most successful investors of our time, Charlie Munger and Li Lu, diverge starkly on Alibaba.A comparison of their views and actions best illustrates the opportunities and risks associated with the investment.Risks commonly mentioned (VIE, delisting, etc.) are all symptoms to me, while Li Lu’s Civilization 2.5 theory offers a more fundamental explanation of the underlying cause.Both bears and bulls can benefit from them and make more informed decisions.JuSunThe investment thesisCharlie Munger needs no introduction, but some readers may need a bit more information on Li Lu. They have been close friends for almost 2 decades. Charlie Munger described Li Lu as the “Chinese Warren Buffett.” And to Li Lu, Munger has been a \"mentor and good friend\" (in Li Lu's own words). The following brief bio taken from Wikipedia provides a bit more info on Li Lu (slightly edited by me):Li Lu (born April 6, 1966) is a Chinese-born American value investor, businessman, and philanthropist. In 1997, he founded Himalaya Capital Management, known for its disciplined and value-oriented approach to investing. Li met Charlie Munger on Thanksgiving 2003 and they have been friends since. With Munger's help, Li transformed his hedge fund into a long-only investment vehicle which is currently focused on global investment opportunities. Munger has stated that Li Lu is the only outside manager he’s ever invested with and he’s described him as the “Chinese Warren Buffett.” Li Lu has been known as the man who introduced the Chinese battery and electric car maker BYD Company to Charlie Munger and Warren Buffett.It is interesting to observe that these two investors, who share both close friendship and also investing principles, diverge starkly on Alibaba Group Holding Limited (NYSE:BABA,OTCPK:BABAF). Munger has a large position in BABA, but Li Lu does not. And this leads us to the main topic of today. You will see a comparison of their views and actions best illustrates the opportunities and risks associated with the BABA investment. On the one side, the current BABA situation presents an opportunity to buy a good business on the operation table, a hallmark investment strategy from Munger. On the other hand, this article will also dive into the view of Li Lu, especially his view on the civilization 2.5 status in China, as elaborated immediately below.Li Lu, BABA, and Civilization 2.5Li Lu’s current holdings in his Himalaya Capital Management are shown in the chart below. As mentioned above, Munger described him as the “Chinese Warren Buffett.” But from his holdings, he is more Buffett than Buffett himself in terms of concentration. His portfolio consists of a total of 6 positions only and the largest position - Micron (MU) - represents almost 34% of the total portfolio size.Source: dataroma.comYou can also see that half of his picks overlap with Munger and Warren Buffett. All three of them like Bank of America (BAC), Apple (AAPL), and of course Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A,BRK.B).However, BABA is where he and Munger diverge. As to be detailed in the next Section, Munger holds a sizeable BABA position, but Li Lu does not. So naturally, it triggers the question: Why? Seeking Alpha authors have detailed many risks such as VIE, delisting, et al. To me, these are symptoms. In my view, Li Lu’s following Civilization 2.5 theory offers a more fundamental explanation of the underlying cause. The theory was presented in a lecture he gave in 2015, and I think it is worth quoting in full (the emphases were added by me). And readers are highly encouraged to read the transcript in its entirety:I believe China is at interim stage between Civilization 2.0 and Civilization 3.0.Let’s call it Civilization 2.5. China has come a long way but still has a long road ahead.Therefore, I think there is a high probability that China will continue on the main track of Civilization 3.0, as the cost of deviation is very high.If you have a good understanding of China’s culture, people and history, you will agree that China will forge forward. This is particularly the case now that you have a better understanding of the essence of modern civilization. There is almost no chance of China leaving the common market, and the probability of China changing its market rules is also very small. Thus, it is highly probable that, in the next 2 to 3 decades, China will remain in the global market system, and adhere to free market principles, in addition to promoting science & technology development.It will take time to go from Civilization 2.5 to 3.0. And surprises and setbacks like VIE and delisting are likely (plus a bunch more that we cannot even imagine today). So, given the timeframe and uncertainties, it is an understandable decision that some investors, Li Lu himself included, decided to stay on the sideline.While Munger, apparently focused more on the opportunity side of the coin given that China will have no choice but to keep upgrading to 3.0 because “the cost of deviation is very high.” And we will elaborate on Munger's thinking and actions immediately below.Munger and BABAThe following chart summarizes the key events that led to Munger’s actions. As you can see from the chart below, he started buying BABA shares in 2021 Q1, after a large correction in its share price caused by the cancellation of the highly anticipated Ant Group IPO. He then doubled down his stake in Alibaba twice: first in 2021 Q3, and then again in 2021 Q4.There are certainly good reasons for Munger’s decision. In the near term, the market reacted too quickly to a series of short-term events based on perception (based on the information available at that time). And there is no lack of major events in the past 1 or 2 years as summarized in the chart (including a war, specifically the Russian/Ukraine war). As a result, even though BABA’s core business is intact, its valuation became too compressed when Munger pulled the trigger to double down his bets. It is a textbook reflection of his wisdom of buying a good business on the operating table. At the prices he bought into BABA, it was valued as a terminally cheap and stagnating business, while its core fundamentals not only remain intact but also well-positioned for growth.In the longer term, as just mentioned, not only China will continue to upgrade to Civilization 3.0, but also other countries in the Asian Pacific region. And such an upgrade will present spectacular growth opportunities, and BABA is well-positioned to benefit from such an upgrade, as to be discussed next.Source: Author based on Yahoo dataThe upgrade to civilization 3.0 and BABAIt is an unstopped trend that our world is moving toward e-commerce, and the epicenter of the remaining movement will be China and the Asian-Pacific region. Even though many of us are already impressed by the success of e-commerce giants like BABA and Amazon (AMZN), the movement toward e-commerce has just actually gotten started and the bulk of the growth is yet to come. The global e-commerce market size was valued at USD 9.09 trillion in 2019 and is expected to grow at a compound annual growth rate (\"CAGR\") of 14.7% from 2020 to 2027. The secular support is even stronger for BABA as the Asia Pacific region is already dominating the market for e-commerce with a share of 55.3% in 2019. Furthermore, this region is expected to witness the fastest growth from 2020 to 2027 as seen below. Even by as early as 2023 – in about 2 years that is - retail e-commerce sales in Asia-Pacific are projected to be greater than the rest of the world combined.And BABA stands best poised to benefit from this upgrade, especially from the Asian-Pacific momentum. As argued in my earlier article:Capitalizing on the continued e-commerce growth requires a combination of scale and reach, government support, and technology. And also, finally, geographical proximity and cultural compatibility certainly help. And BABA has all these stars aligned for its further expansion – especially in the Asian-Pacific region. The China government might be tightening its regulations on its domestic market, but it certainly encourages the overseas expansion of its tech giants like BABA. And BABA has already accomplished a substantial lead in capturing overseas markets, with its close neighbors such as Indonesia and Vietnam posting revenue growth of over 100% YoY recently.Risks and final thoughtsTo recap, the current BABA situation is a textbook example of high-risk and high-return investment opportunities. There are plenty of risks in the near term and also in the long term. There has been no lack of major events in the past 1- or 2-years surrounding BABA (Ant IPO, fine, VEI, delisting, et al). In the near term, the China-U.S. trade tension and global geopolitical frictions will keep the stock prices in a highly volatile state. And I am sure there be more hiccups and surprises that investors have not thought about yet showing up in the near future.In the long term, China is going through an upgrade from civilization 2.5 to 3.0. I agree with Li Lu’s view that China will have no choice but to keep upgrading to 3.0 because “the cost of deviation is very high.” But at the same time, the path of the upgrade will be long and full of setbacks. Independent thinkers like Munger and Li, despite their opposite actions, are essentially betting on the two sides of the same coin.I am siding with Munger there and betting on the opportunity side. All the risks and opportunities mentioned above should apply equally to major China tech firms. However, I think the market now overly exaggerates the risk side for BABA and underestimates the opportunity side, creating an asymmetric opportunity. As you can see from the following chart, both the valuation of BABA and JD.com (JD) has been compressed substantially in the past two years. You can see that by the downward trend of the three-year medium of their price to CFO multiple. Despite the common risks/opportunities and also comparable (or even superior profitability as argued in our recent article), BABA was so much more compressed than JD. Its current P/CFO stands at only 10.55x, about 25% below JD’s 13,.98x, and a whopping 43% below its 3-year median of 18.44x.This article was written by","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":473,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"hots":[{"id":239793665511504,"gmtCreate":1699580278435,"gmtModify":1699580282936,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/C6L.SI\">$SINGAPORE AIRLINES LTD(C6L.SI)$ </a>one and only one airline for sg,sure up","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/C6L.SI\">$SINGAPORE AIRLINES LTD(C6L.SI)$ </a>one and only one airline for sg,sure up","text":"$SINGAPORE AIRLINES LTD(C6L.SI)$ one and only one airline for sg,sure up","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/239793665511504","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":412,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":187789546205312,"gmtCreate":1686874871412,"gmtModify":1686874874228,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"' <a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ </a>","listText":"' <a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/TSLA\">$Tesla Motors(TSLA)$ </a>","text":"' $Tesla Motors(TSLA)$","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/187789546205312","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":330,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9960054352,"gmtCreate":1668037460376,"gmtModify":1676538001036,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Expected ","listText":"Expected ","text":"Expected","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":8,"commentSize":3,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9960054352","repostId":"2282353541","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":536,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9941885614,"gmtCreate":1680129256438,"gmtModify":1680129259436,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Ok","listText":"Ok","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":6,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941885614","repostId":"2323622606","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2323622606","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1680102916,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2323622606?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-29 23:15","market":"us","language":"en","title":"7 Dangerous Dividend Stocks to Avoid at All Costs","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2323622606","media":"InvestorPlace","summary":"Ally Financial : Ally has heavy exposure to a possible ‘auto loan crisis.’Bank of America : Various ","content":"<html><head></head><body><ul><li><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ALLY\">Ally Financial </a>: Ally has heavy exposure to a possible ‘auto loan crisis.’</p></li><li><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BAC\">Bank of America </a>: Various factors could weigh on BAC’s performance, outweighing the appeal of its dividend.</p></li><li><p><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FRC\">First Republic </a>: The troubled bank recently suspended its dividend, and isn’t bringing it back soon.</p></li><li><p>Continue reading for the complete list of dividend stocks to avoid!</p></li></ul><p>In the aftermath of this month’s banking crisis, plenty of financial stocks appear appealing. However, far from bargains, many of these stocks are to be considered dividend stocks to avoid.</p><p>Despite recent moves to rescue distress institutions, don’t assume this banking crisis is close to resolution. More firms could be direct/indirectly affected, resulting in further price declines.</p><p>In addition, these stocks may have high trailing dividend yields, but their forward yields could end up being far different. Besides knocking them lower, a continued banking crisis may cause more names slashing or suspending their payout. In fact, one of these such stocks has already done just that.</p><p>Having said all this, there is also a high-yielding non-financial name, which, for other reasons, is a dividend stock you should skip on as well.</p><p>“Dividend trap” risk runs high with these seven dividend stocks to avoid, each of which currently earns either a D or F rating in <em>Portfolio Grader</em>.</p><table style=\"border-collapse:collapse;\"><tbody><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>ALLY</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>Ally Financial</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$24.43</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>BAC</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>Bank of America</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$28.34</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>FRC</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>First Republic</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$13.63</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>INTC</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>Intel</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$29.41</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>SCHW</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>Charles Schwab</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$54.71</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>USB</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/USBOV\">U.S. Bancorp</a></strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$35.07</p></td></tr><tr><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>WFC</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p><strong>Wells Fargo</strong></p></td><td style=\"text-align:left;\"><p>$37.38</p></td></tr></tbody></table><h2><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/ALLY\">Ally Financial </a></h2><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/60e6d7dcaa0a254b7a05aa788f8db134\" tg-width=\"300\" tg-height=\"169\"/></p><p>Source: JHVEPhoto/Shutterstock.com</p><p>In contrast to many other financial stocks listed below, <strong>Ally Financial</strong> already seemed in trouble well before banks such as <strong>SVB Financial’s</strong> (NASDAQ:<strong>SIVB</strong>) Silicon Valley Bank collapsed.</p><p>Investors have been concerned about ALLY stock, because of high exposure to a possible “auto loan crisis.” For the past decade, Ally has been diversifying its business, but this financial institution remains largely an auto lender. To make matters worse, Ally not only has high general exposure to auto loans.</p><p>It is also a major lender/financing source for troubled used car retailer <strong>Carvana</strong> (NYSE:<strong>CVNA</strong>). The risks associated with D-rated ALLY stock appear to be reflected in its valuation, as it is trading for only 6.5 times earnings. With a dividend yield of 4.95%, hardly a lock, but shares have likely found support thanks to some Warren Buffett rumors.</p><h2><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/BAC\">Bank of America </a></h2><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/e3aa6145a8b6fd9e6139fc57db08e1c5\" tg-width=\"300\" tg-height=\"169\"/></p><p>Source: Michael Vi / Shutterstock.com</p><p><strong>Bank of America</strong> has so far avoided heavy damage from the aforementioned crisis. However, alongside other stocks in the sector, shares in this big bank have tanked because of these recent events.</p><p>Falling from the mid-$30s to the high-$20s per share, BAC stock has become cheaper than it’s been in a long time. Presently, the stock trades at 8.5 times the profits and has a 3.24% dividend yield. Despite these positives, not to mention recent arguments some have made stating that SVB’s loss is BAC’s gain, keep in mind that the banking world is not out of the woods just yet.</p><p>As I argued recently, many factors could weigh on shares from here. That’s not to say BAC’s dividend is under threat, but shares get a D rating in Portfolio because of these risks, and it’s one of the dividend stocks to avoid.</p><h2><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/FRC\">First Republic </a></h2><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a5356eead71b52df5f390a8eeabb8d16\" tg-width=\"300\" tg-height=\"169\"/></p><p>Source: Tada Images / Shutterstock.com</p><p><strong>First Republic</strong> (NYSE:<strong>FRC</strong>) is one bank affected by the latest troubles in the banking sector. Shares in this San Francisco-based private banking and wealth management firm have dropped by nearly 90% in the course of a month, after getting rescued by several of the big banks.</p><p>FRC is also the bank that I hinted above had to suspend its dividend. With this massive collapse in price, and the dividend suspension, it may seem as if the worst is already over for FRC stock. Unfortunately, even after its much-publicized “rescue,” First Republic remains in trouble.</p><p>With so much up in the air, it’s not worth even trying to handicap whether wagering that F-rated FRC stock survives is worth the risk. As for FRC’s dividend, which if reinstated today would give the stock a 8.74% yield? Don’t count on it returning soon.</p><h2><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/INTC\">Intel </a></h2><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/2a476824c0b463d6539cda4c42b5fbed\" tg-width=\"300\" tg-height=\"169\"/></p><p>Source: Sundry Photography / Shutterstock.com</p><p>Much like with First Republic, it is perhaps too late to say that <strong>Intel</strong> (NASDAQ:<strong>INTC</strong>) is one of the dividend stocks to avoid. While the chip maker has not suspended paying out dividend, the company cut its payout by 66% last month, to conserve the cash necessary to fund its turnaround.</p><p>Some optimistic commentators have called this a wise move. However, while slashing the payout is preferable, don’t assume a rebound is in store. There’s a lot to suggest that Intel’s turnaround plan, which hinges on the company becoming a leading fabricator for other chip makers, will fail to fully play out.</p><p>Instead, the company’s operating performance could remain lackluster. The dividend may take a long time to climb back to the prior levels. This leaves D-rated INTC at risk of staying in a slump.</p><h2><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SCHW\">Charles Schwab </a></h2><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/fd89f32c3602dba0fceefc06ee5114c8\" tg-width=\"300\" tg-height=\"169\"/></p><p>Source: Isabelle OHara / Shutterstock.com</p><p>While known mainly as a brokerage firm, <strong>Charles Schwab</strong> (NYSE:<strong>SCHW</strong>) has become another financial stock under scrutiny because of the current banking crisis. These concerns are valid, given Schwab’s main source of revenue, which comes from taking uninvested funds from client accounts, and investing it in fixed-income securities.</p><p>With the rise in interest rates, clients have moved this excess cash out of their Schwab accounts, all while unrealized losses have increased in the firm’s fixed income portfolio. Although it may not be at risk of experiencing a SVB-esque liquidity crunch because of this, it may end up having a severe impact on future earnings.</p><p>Add in how shares aren’t really a bargain (trading for 15 times earnings), and this D-rated stock’s forward yield isn’t exactly high (1.88%), there’s no reason at all to ‘buy the dip’ here.</p><h2><a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/USB\">U.S. Bancorp </a></h2><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3e64f4dfbbb787a82048d6a905c9a1dc\" tg-width=\"300\" tg-height=\"169\"/></p><p>Source: Michael Vi / Shutterstock.com</p><p>With the banking crisis knocking <strong>U.S. Bancorp</strong> (NYSE:<strong>USB</strong>) to a low valuation (9.4 times earnings), and giving it a forward yield of 5.5%, it makes sense why many commentators are out there calling it a golden buying opportunity at present price levels.</p><p>But far from a no-brainer opportunity among dividend stocks, it’s best to consider USB stock one of the dividend stocks to sell. Sure, U.S. Bancorp has been vocal about its confidence to weather current storms.</p><p>However, there’s no getting around the fact that USB has a high level of unrealized losses. The market was clearly onto something when it bid down USB. Until USB works through this key issue, consider it best to avoid this D-rated dividend stock.</p><h2>Wells Fargo (WFC)</h2><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/170f1722dd6fd7f89d77c9b4987162eb\" tg-width=\"300\" tg-height=\"169\"/></p><p>Source: Kristi Blokhin / Shutterstock.com</p><p><strong>Wells Fargo</strong> (NYSE:<strong>WFC</strong>) is another big bank stock hammered as of late. Similar to BAC and USB, some investors believe this pullback has pushed shares to a heavily discounted valuation. This is debatable.</p><p>WFC stock trades for 11.5 times earnings, it’s technically pricier than BAC. Shares also don’t exactly offer a super high dividend to investors (3.31%). This calls any argument that WFC has become oversold into question.</p><p>Alongside this, it’s important to note that the fallout from the fake accounts scandal from a few years back continues to weigh on Wells Fargo’s operating performance.</p><p>The bank has also ended up in the crosshairs of regulators again, due to a more recent scandal. Far from overreacting, it seems investors aren’t yet bearish enough about WFC, which earns a D rating in <em>Portfolio Grader</em>.</p></body></html>","source":"investorplace","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>7 Dangerous Dividend Stocks to Avoid at All Costs</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\n7 Dangerous Dividend Stocks to Avoid at All Costs\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 23:15 GMT+8 <a href=https://investorplace.com/market360/2023/03/7-dangerous-dividend-stocks-to-avoid-at-all-costs/><strong>InvestorPlace</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>Ally Financial : Ally has heavy exposure to a possible ‘auto loan crisis.’Bank of America : Various factors could weigh on BAC’s performance, outweighing the appeal of its dividend.First Republic : ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://investorplace.com/market360/2023/03/7-dangerous-dividend-stocks-to-avoid-at-all-costs/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"BK4527":"明星科技股","BK4501":"段永平概念","ALLY":"Ally Financial Inc.","BK4579":"人工智能","BK4588":"碎股","INTC":"英特尔","BK4141":"半导体产品","BK4207":"综合性银行","BK4548":"巴美列捷福持仓","BK4127":"投资银行业与经纪业","BK4529":"IDC概念","USB":"美国合众银行","WFC":"富国银行","BAC":"美国银行","BK4515":"5G概念","BK4585":"ETF&股票定投概念","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","BK4533":"AQR资本管理(全球第二大对冲基金)","SCHW":"嘉信理财"},"source_url":"https://investorplace.com/market360/2023/03/7-dangerous-dividend-stocks-to-avoid-at-all-costs/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2323622606","content_text":"Ally Financial : Ally has heavy exposure to a possible ‘auto loan crisis.’Bank of America : Various factors could weigh on BAC’s performance, outweighing the appeal of its dividend.First Republic : The troubled bank recently suspended its dividend, and isn’t bringing it back soon.Continue reading for the complete list of dividend stocks to avoid!In the aftermath of this month’s banking crisis, plenty of financial stocks appear appealing. However, far from bargains, many of these stocks are to be considered dividend stocks to avoid.Despite recent moves to rescue distress institutions, don’t assume this banking crisis is close to resolution. More firms could be direct/indirectly affected, resulting in further price declines.In addition, these stocks may have high trailing dividend yields, but their forward yields could end up being far different. Besides knocking them lower, a continued banking crisis may cause more names slashing or suspending their payout. In fact, one of these such stocks has already done just that.Having said all this, there is also a high-yielding non-financial name, which, for other reasons, is a dividend stock you should skip on as well.“Dividend trap” risk runs high with these seven dividend stocks to avoid, each of which currently earns either a D or F rating in Portfolio Grader.ALLYAlly Financial$24.43BACBank of America$28.34FRCFirst Republic$13.63INTCIntel$29.41SCHWCharles Schwab$54.71USBU.S. Bancorp$35.07WFCWells Fargo$37.38Ally Financial Source: JHVEPhoto/Shutterstock.comIn contrast to many other financial stocks listed below, Ally Financial already seemed in trouble well before banks such as SVB Financial’s (NASDAQ:SIVB) Silicon Valley Bank collapsed.Investors have been concerned about ALLY stock, because of high exposure to a possible “auto loan crisis.” For the past decade, Ally has been diversifying its business, but this financial institution remains largely an auto lender. To make matters worse, Ally not only has high general exposure to auto loans.It is also a major lender/financing source for troubled used car retailer Carvana (NYSE:CVNA). The risks associated with D-rated ALLY stock appear to be reflected in its valuation, as it is trading for only 6.5 times earnings. With a dividend yield of 4.95%, hardly a lock, but shares have likely found support thanks to some Warren Buffett rumors.Bank of America Source: Michael Vi / Shutterstock.comBank of America has so far avoided heavy damage from the aforementioned crisis. However, alongside other stocks in the sector, shares in this big bank have tanked because of these recent events.Falling from the mid-$30s to the high-$20s per share, BAC stock has become cheaper than it’s been in a long time. Presently, the stock trades at 8.5 times the profits and has a 3.24% dividend yield. Despite these positives, not to mention recent arguments some have made stating that SVB’s loss is BAC’s gain, keep in mind that the banking world is not out of the woods just yet.As I argued recently, many factors could weigh on shares from here. That’s not to say BAC’s dividend is under threat, but shares get a D rating in Portfolio because of these risks, and it’s one of the dividend stocks to avoid.First Republic Source: Tada Images / Shutterstock.comFirst Republic (NYSE:FRC) is one bank affected by the latest troubles in the banking sector. Shares in this San Francisco-based private banking and wealth management firm have dropped by nearly 90% in the course of a month, after getting rescued by several of the big banks.FRC is also the bank that I hinted above had to suspend its dividend. With this massive collapse in price, and the dividend suspension, it may seem as if the worst is already over for FRC stock. Unfortunately, even after its much-publicized “rescue,” First Republic remains in trouble.With so much up in the air, it’s not worth even trying to handicap whether wagering that F-rated FRC stock survives is worth the risk. As for FRC’s dividend, which if reinstated today would give the stock a 8.74% yield? Don’t count on it returning soon.Intel Source: Sundry Photography / Shutterstock.comMuch like with First Republic, it is perhaps too late to say that Intel (NASDAQ:INTC) is one of the dividend stocks to avoid. While the chip maker has not suspended paying out dividend, the company cut its payout by 66% last month, to conserve the cash necessary to fund its turnaround.Some optimistic commentators have called this a wise move. However, while slashing the payout is preferable, don’t assume a rebound is in store. There’s a lot to suggest that Intel’s turnaround plan, which hinges on the company becoming a leading fabricator for other chip makers, will fail to fully play out.Instead, the company’s operating performance could remain lackluster. The dividend may take a long time to climb back to the prior levels. This leaves D-rated INTC at risk of staying in a slump.Charles Schwab Source: Isabelle OHara / Shutterstock.comWhile known mainly as a brokerage firm, Charles Schwab (NYSE:SCHW) has become another financial stock under scrutiny because of the current banking crisis. These concerns are valid, given Schwab’s main source of revenue, which comes from taking uninvested funds from client accounts, and investing it in fixed-income securities.With the rise in interest rates, clients have moved this excess cash out of their Schwab accounts, all while unrealized losses have increased in the firm’s fixed income portfolio. Although it may not be at risk of experiencing a SVB-esque liquidity crunch because of this, it may end up having a severe impact on future earnings.Add in how shares aren’t really a bargain (trading for 15 times earnings), and this D-rated stock’s forward yield isn’t exactly high (1.88%), there’s no reason at all to ‘buy the dip’ here.U.S. Bancorp Source: Michael Vi / Shutterstock.comWith the banking crisis knocking U.S. Bancorp (NYSE:USB) to a low valuation (9.4 times earnings), and giving it a forward yield of 5.5%, it makes sense why many commentators are out there calling it a golden buying opportunity at present price levels.But far from a no-brainer opportunity among dividend stocks, it’s best to consider USB stock one of the dividend stocks to sell. Sure, U.S. Bancorp has been vocal about its confidence to weather current storms.However, there’s no getting around the fact that USB has a high level of unrealized losses. The market was clearly onto something when it bid down USB. Until USB works through this key issue, consider it best to avoid this D-rated dividend stock.Wells Fargo (WFC)Source: Kristi Blokhin / Shutterstock.comWells Fargo (NYSE:WFC) is another big bank stock hammered as of late. Similar to BAC and USB, some investors believe this pullback has pushed shares to a heavily discounted valuation. This is debatable.WFC stock trades for 11.5 times earnings, it’s technically pricier than BAC. Shares also don’t exactly offer a super high dividend to investors (3.31%). This calls any argument that WFC has become oversold into question.Alongside this, it’s important to note that the fallout from the fake accounts scandal from a few years back continues to weigh on Wells Fargo’s operating performance.The bank has also ended up in the crosshairs of regulators again, due to a more recent scandal. Far from overreacting, it seems investors aren’t yet bearish enough about WFC, which earns a D rating in Portfolio Grader.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":342,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9911261674,"gmtCreate":1664223435098,"gmtModify":1676537411291,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"[Great] ","listText":"[Great] ","text":"[Great]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":1,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9911261674","repostId":"2270505400","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2270505400","kind":"highlight","pubTimestamp":1664205741,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2270505400?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-09-26 23:22","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Investing in This ETF Right Now Could Make You a Millionaire Retiree","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2270505400","media":"MotleyFool","summary":"The SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust is a low-cost index ETF that attempts to track the S&P 500 index, which is often used as a proxy for the overall US stock market. With itd expense ratio of 0.09%, investors in that ETF can get returns that nearly perfectly match that index, while losing almost nothing to fund management fees.That combination of stock market like returns with very low internal costs makes the SPDR S&P 500 ETF trust a simple, one-stop shop for investors. It's especially potent for invest","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>With the market down substantially from its all-time highs, the benefits of dollar-cost averaging into a low-cost, broad-based stock index fund are becoming quite clear. By making regular investments every payday in this market, each dollar you're investing buys that many more shares while stocks are down. That may not seem like much benefit now, but it means you've got that many more shares available to compound in any recovery that follows.</p><p>It's with that backdrop that making regular investments in the <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/SPY\">SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust</a> starting now could make you a millionaire retiree. It's a process that takes time no matter what the market is doing, which is a great reason to consider starting those investments now, even if the market continues to fall.</p><h2>Why invest in the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust?</h2><p>The SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust is a low-cost index ETF that attempts to track the <b>S&P 500</b> index, which is often used as a proxy for the overall US stock market. With itd expense ratio of 0.09%, investors in that ETF can get returns that nearly perfectly match that index, while losing almost nothing to fund management fees.</p><p>That combination of stock market like returns with very low internal costs makes the SPDR S&P 500 ETF trust a simple, one-stop shop for investors. It's especially potent for investors who don't want or are otherwise unable to put a lot of time and effort into digging through financial reports to pick individual stocks. When you add the fact that index investing tends to beat funds managed by Wall Street's best and brightest over time, the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust become an even more compelling option.</p><h2>How long will it take to become a millionaire?</h2><p>The path from $0 to $1 million depends heavily on two key factors: how much you're able to invest every month and what rate of return you earn along the way. The good news is that if you've got a long enough time horizon, reaching millionaire status by retirement age is feasible, even for people with modest incomes.</p><p>The following table shows how many years it takes to reach that millionaire status, depending on what you can save each month and what annual rate of return you earn along the way.</p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/8d66accc5150914ff4292fce34ed09aa\" tg-width=\"1210\" tg-height=\"408\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data source: author.<table><thead><tr></tr></thead></table><p>The top end of that savings rate -- $2,200 per month -- represents a savings rate that can be contributed to tax-advantaged, retirement-focused accounts for most people. Workers under age 50 can generally contribute up to $20,500 per year in a company-sponsored retirement plan like a 401(k). They can also typically sock away up to $6,000 per year in their own IRA. (The contribution limits are even higher for workers ages 50 and up. )</p><p>The bottom end of that savings rate -- $300 per month -- works out to around $10 per day. Even at that savings level, as long as you invest consistently throughout the length of a typical working career, you've got a decent shot at reaching millionaire status by the time you retire.</p><h2>Get started now</h2><p>Regardless of where you are in your career, you'll never again have more time before you retire than you do right now. That makes today a great day to get your plan in place. The sooner you get started, the more of the cells in that table will be within your reach, improving your chances of retiring a millionaire.</p></body></html>","source":"motleyfoolau_stock","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Investing in This ETF Right Now Could Make You a Millionaire Retiree</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nInvesting in This ETF Right Now Could Make You a Millionaire Retiree\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-09-26 23:22 GMT+8 <a href=https://www.fool.com.au/2022/09/26/investing-in-this-etf-right-now-could-make-you-a-millionaire-retiree-usfeed/><strong>MotleyFool</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>With the market down substantially from its all-time highs, the benefits of dollar-cost averaging into a low-cost, broad-based stock index fund are becoming quite clear. By making regular investments ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://www.fool.com.au/2022/09/26/investing-in-this-etf-right-now-could-make-you-a-millionaire-retiree-usfeed/\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"SPY":"标普500ETF"},"source_url":"https://www.fool.com.au/2022/09/26/investing-in-this-etf-right-now-could-make-you-a-millionaire-retiree-usfeed/","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2270505400","content_text":"With the market down substantially from its all-time highs, the benefits of dollar-cost averaging into a low-cost, broad-based stock index fund are becoming quite clear. By making regular investments every payday in this market, each dollar you're investing buys that many more shares while stocks are down. That may not seem like much benefit now, but it means you've got that many more shares available to compound in any recovery that follows.It's with that backdrop that making regular investments in the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust starting now could make you a millionaire retiree. It's a process that takes time no matter what the market is doing, which is a great reason to consider starting those investments now, even if the market continues to fall.Why invest in the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust?The SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust is a low-cost index ETF that attempts to track the S&P 500 index, which is often used as a proxy for the overall US stock market. With itd expense ratio of 0.09%, investors in that ETF can get returns that nearly perfectly match that index, while losing almost nothing to fund management fees.That combination of stock market like returns with very low internal costs makes the SPDR S&P 500 ETF trust a simple, one-stop shop for investors. It's especially potent for investors who don't want or are otherwise unable to put a lot of time and effort into digging through financial reports to pick individual stocks. When you add the fact that index investing tends to beat funds managed by Wall Street's best and brightest over time, the SPDR S&P 500 ETF Trust become an even more compelling option.How long will it take to become a millionaire?The path from $0 to $1 million depends heavily on two key factors: how much you're able to invest every month and what rate of return you earn along the way. The good news is that if you've got a long enough time horizon, reaching millionaire status by retirement age is feasible, even for people with modest incomes.The following table shows how many years it takes to reach that millionaire status, depending on what you can save each month and what annual rate of return you earn along the way.Data source: author.The top end of that savings rate -- $2,200 per month -- represents a savings rate that can be contributed to tax-advantaged, retirement-focused accounts for most people. Workers under age 50 can generally contribute up to $20,500 per year in a company-sponsored retirement plan like a 401(k). They can also typically sock away up to $6,000 per year in their own IRA. (The contribution limits are even higher for workers ages 50 and up. )The bottom end of that savings rate -- $300 per month -- works out to around $10 per day. Even at that savings level, as long as you invest consistently throughout the length of a typical working career, you've got a decent shot at reaching millionaire status by the time you retire.Get started nowRegardless of where you are in your career, you'll never again have more time before you retire than you do right now. That makes today a great day to get your plan in place. The sooner you get started, the more of the cells in that table will be within your reach, improving your chances of retiring a millionaire.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":548,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":315244978065472,"gmtCreate":1717995483105,"gmtModify":1717995487099,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Buy at split price for $120","listText":"Buy at split price for $120","text":"Buy at split price for $120","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/315244978065472","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":338,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9948856058,"gmtCreate":1680680310374,"gmtModify":1680680313194,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"\">[财迷] </a>good","listText":"<a href=\"\">[财迷] </a>good","text":"[财迷] good","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9948856058","repostId":"2324887333","repostType":4,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":341,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9943142579,"gmtCreate":1679312940292,"gmtModify":1679312944989,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Buy","listText":"Buy","text":"Buy","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9943142579","repostId":"1196849272","repostType":2,"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":449,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9911856201,"gmtCreate":1664179456803,"gmtModify":1676537404038,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"like","listText":"like","text":"like","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9911856201","repostId":"2270412558","repostType":4,"repost":{"id":"2270412558","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Dow Jones publishes the world’s most trusted business news and financial information in a variety of media.","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Dow Jones","id":"106","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99"},"pubTimestamp":1664154917,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2270412558?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-09-26 09:15","market":"us","language":"en","title":"The Stock Market Is Reeling. Here's What Could Stop the Pain","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2270412558","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"After one of the worst weeks for the stock market in 2022, two factors could swing the market over t","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>After one of the worst weeks for the stock market in 2022, two factors could swing the market over the next few days and set investors up for a tumultuous fourth quarter.</p><p>The market is reeling after a broad selloff on Friday, capping off a two-week swoon that took the S&P 500 down 9.2%, to 3693. The index is down 23% from its January peak. Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell has made it clear that the Fed’s primary concern is inflation, and the central bank is willing to impose financial pain to bring it down. Investors are increasingly believing him.</p><p>That means that the market is likely to swing on two main themes over the next few weeks—inflation data and any hints of what the Fed plans to do in their next few meetings. In the next week, more of those hints could be on their way.</p><p>Investors will hear from quite a few Fed officials and will be watching closely for language that indicates any splits among the board members. Twelve of the 19 Fed governors and presidents are speaking this coming week, “with virtually all appearances potentially touching on the economic outlook or monetary policy,” notes Deutsche Bank economists led by Brett Ryan.</p><p>While all of the Fed members appear intent on continuing to increase rates from the current 3.0%-3.25% range, there are important disagreements too. For instance, the “dot-plots” that track where Fed officials see economic data and interest rates in the future show that members are evenly split between those who expect Federal Funds rates to peak at 4.75% next year, and those who see 4.5% and 4.25% as the top rates. Those might seem like relatively small differences, but they could make a big difference in the market, given how closely investors are watching rates. If Fed officials start leaning toward more dovish policy—raising interest rates more gradually—the market is likely to rise. But that still feels like a long shot. Deutsche Bank, for its part, expects rates will have to rise to 5%, which would likely be a negative for investors.</p><p>Powell himself will appear twice in the coming week. “All three members of Fed leadership will speak, with Powell taking part in a panel on digital currencies on Tuesday and on Wednesday giving welcoming remarks at a community banking conference, at which Gov. Bowman will also appear,” Ryan wrote.</p><p>In addition, there will be some data releases that could impact the market. On Thursday, the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) will release its third estimate of second-quarter gross domestic product, and potentially revise some older figures too. Because it’s a backward-looking number, GDP often doesn’t move the market much. But any further sign that the economy is already in recession could impact investor sentiment. It could also impact the Fed’s willingness to plunge the economy into a deeper recession if it becomes more clear that a recession has begun. The last estimate of second-quarter GDP was a decline of 0.6%, following a 1.3% decline in the first quarter.</p><p>New data on durable goods, consumption, and other economic activity will also help forecasters estimate third-quarter gross domestic product. Another quarter of declines would make it more clear that the economy is already in recession—and test the Fed’s willingness to make the economic pain worse.</p><p>The biggest news is likely to come on Friday, though. The BEA will release the personal-consumption expenditures price index, a key measure of inflation that the Fed watches closely. That index rose 6.8% year over year in June—its highest level since 1982—and moderated to 6.3% in July. The core PCE index, taking out food and energy, was up 4.6%. Analysts expect the core PCE to rise 4.7% in August.</p><p>Even with all these Fed officials planning to speak and important data releases, it’s unlikely that there will be enough clarity in the coming week about the path of rate hikes to determine where stocks will head for the rest of the year. Goldman Sachs on Friday reduced its 2022 S&P 500 target to 3,600 from 4,300—another sign that Wall Street does not see a near-term reprieve for the market.</p><p>“Over the next couple of weeks, long-term investors may hesitate buying into weakness because it doesn’t seem like any economic data release or Fed speak will convince markets that a downshift from this aggressive tightening campaign will be happening anytime soon,” wrote Oanda analyst Edward Moya. “Downside targets for the S&P 500 include the 3,470 level, which might look attractive for some long-term investors.”</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>The Stock Market Is Reeling. Here's What Could Stop the Pain</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nThe Stock Market Is Reeling. Here's What Could Stop the Pain\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2022-09-26 09:15</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>After one of the worst weeks for the stock market in 2022, two factors could swing the market over the next few days and set investors up for a tumultuous fourth quarter.</p><p>The market is reeling after a broad selloff on Friday, capping off a two-week swoon that took the S&P 500 down 9.2%, to 3693. The index is down 23% from its January peak. Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell has made it clear that the Fed’s primary concern is inflation, and the central bank is willing to impose financial pain to bring it down. Investors are increasingly believing him.</p><p>That means that the market is likely to swing on two main themes over the next few weeks—inflation data and any hints of what the Fed plans to do in their next few meetings. In the next week, more of those hints could be on their way.</p><p>Investors will hear from quite a few Fed officials and will be watching closely for language that indicates any splits among the board members. Twelve of the 19 Fed governors and presidents are speaking this coming week, “with virtually all appearances potentially touching on the economic outlook or monetary policy,” notes Deutsche Bank economists led by Brett Ryan.</p><p>While all of the Fed members appear intent on continuing to increase rates from the current 3.0%-3.25% range, there are important disagreements too. For instance, the “dot-plots” that track where Fed officials see economic data and interest rates in the future show that members are evenly split between those who expect Federal Funds rates to peak at 4.75% next year, and those who see 4.5% and 4.25% as the top rates. Those might seem like relatively small differences, but they could make a big difference in the market, given how closely investors are watching rates. If Fed officials start leaning toward more dovish policy—raising interest rates more gradually—the market is likely to rise. But that still feels like a long shot. Deutsche Bank, for its part, expects rates will have to rise to 5%, which would likely be a negative for investors.</p><p>Powell himself will appear twice in the coming week. “All three members of Fed leadership will speak, with Powell taking part in a panel on digital currencies on Tuesday and on Wednesday giving welcoming remarks at a community banking conference, at which Gov. Bowman will also appear,” Ryan wrote.</p><p>In addition, there will be some data releases that could impact the market. On Thursday, the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) will release its third estimate of second-quarter gross domestic product, and potentially revise some older figures too. Because it’s a backward-looking number, GDP often doesn’t move the market much. But any further sign that the economy is already in recession could impact investor sentiment. It could also impact the Fed’s willingness to plunge the economy into a deeper recession if it becomes more clear that a recession has begun. The last estimate of second-quarter GDP was a decline of 0.6%, following a 1.3% decline in the first quarter.</p><p>New data on durable goods, consumption, and other economic activity will also help forecasters estimate third-quarter gross domestic product. Another quarter of declines would make it more clear that the economy is already in recession—and test the Fed’s willingness to make the economic pain worse.</p><p>The biggest news is likely to come on Friday, though. The BEA will release the personal-consumption expenditures price index, a key measure of inflation that the Fed watches closely. That index rose 6.8% year over year in June—its highest level since 1982—and moderated to 6.3% in July. The core PCE index, taking out food and energy, was up 4.6%. Analysts expect the core PCE to rise 4.7% in August.</p><p>Even with all these Fed officials planning to speak and important data releases, it’s unlikely that there will be enough clarity in the coming week about the path of rate hikes to determine where stocks will head for the rest of the year. Goldman Sachs on Friday reduced its 2022 S&P 500 target to 3,600 from 4,300—another sign that Wall Street does not see a near-term reprieve for the market.</p><p>“Over the next couple of weeks, long-term investors may hesitate buying into weakness because it doesn’t seem like any economic data release or Fed speak will convince markets that a downshift from this aggressive tightening campaign will be happening anytime soon,” wrote Oanda analyst Edward Moya. “Downside targets for the S&P 500 include the 3,470 level, which might look attractive for some long-term investors.”</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"161125":"标普500","513500":"标普500ETF","SPXU":"三倍做空标普500ETF","UPRO":"三倍做多标普500ETF","BK4504":"桥水持仓",".SPX":"S&P 500 Index","OEX":"标普100","SSO":"两倍做多标普500ETF","SDS":"两倍做空标普500ETF","SH":"标普500反向ETF","IVV":"标普500指数ETF","BK4559":"巴菲特持仓","SPY":"标普500ETF","OEF":"标普100指数ETF-iShares","BK4534":"瑞士信贷持仓","BK4581":"高盛持仓","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓"},"source_url":"","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2270412558","content_text":"After one of the worst weeks for the stock market in 2022, two factors could swing the market over the next few days and set investors up for a tumultuous fourth quarter.The market is reeling after a broad selloff on Friday, capping off a two-week swoon that took the S&P 500 down 9.2%, to 3693. The index is down 23% from its January peak. Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell has made it clear that the Fed’s primary concern is inflation, and the central bank is willing to impose financial pain to bring it down. Investors are increasingly believing him.That means that the market is likely to swing on two main themes over the next few weeks—inflation data and any hints of what the Fed plans to do in their next few meetings. In the next week, more of those hints could be on their way.Investors will hear from quite a few Fed officials and will be watching closely for language that indicates any splits among the board members. Twelve of the 19 Fed governors and presidents are speaking this coming week, “with virtually all appearances potentially touching on the economic outlook or monetary policy,” notes Deutsche Bank economists led by Brett Ryan.While all of the Fed members appear intent on continuing to increase rates from the current 3.0%-3.25% range, there are important disagreements too. For instance, the “dot-plots” that track where Fed officials see economic data and interest rates in the future show that members are evenly split between those who expect Federal Funds rates to peak at 4.75% next year, and those who see 4.5% and 4.25% as the top rates. Those might seem like relatively small differences, but they could make a big difference in the market, given how closely investors are watching rates. If Fed officials start leaning toward more dovish policy—raising interest rates more gradually—the market is likely to rise. But that still feels like a long shot. Deutsche Bank, for its part, expects rates will have to rise to 5%, which would likely be a negative for investors.Powell himself will appear twice in the coming week. “All three members of Fed leadership will speak, with Powell taking part in a panel on digital currencies on Tuesday and on Wednesday giving welcoming remarks at a community banking conference, at which Gov. Bowman will also appear,” Ryan wrote.In addition, there will be some data releases that could impact the market. On Thursday, the Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) will release its third estimate of second-quarter gross domestic product, and potentially revise some older figures too. Because it’s a backward-looking number, GDP often doesn’t move the market much. But any further sign that the economy is already in recession could impact investor sentiment. It could also impact the Fed’s willingness to plunge the economy into a deeper recession if it becomes more clear that a recession has begun. The last estimate of second-quarter GDP was a decline of 0.6%, following a 1.3% decline in the first quarter.New data on durable goods, consumption, and other economic activity will also help forecasters estimate third-quarter gross domestic product. Another quarter of declines would make it more clear that the economy is already in recession—and test the Fed’s willingness to make the economic pain worse.The biggest news is likely to come on Friday, though. The BEA will release the personal-consumption expenditures price index, a key measure of inflation that the Fed watches closely. That index rose 6.8% year over year in June—its highest level since 1982—and moderated to 6.3% in July. The core PCE index, taking out food and energy, was up 4.6%. Analysts expect the core PCE to rise 4.7% in August.Even with all these Fed officials planning to speak and important data releases, it’s unlikely that there will be enough clarity in the coming week about the path of rate hikes to determine where stocks will head for the rest of the year. Goldman Sachs on Friday reduced its 2022 S&P 500 target to 3,600 from 4,300—another sign that Wall Street does not see a near-term reprieve for the market.“Over the next couple of weeks, long-term investors may hesitate buying into weakness because it doesn’t seem like any economic data release or Fed speak will convince markets that a downshift from this aggressive tightening campaign will be happening anytime soon,” wrote Oanda analyst Edward Moya. “Downside targets for the S&P 500 include the 3,470 level, which might look attractive for some long-term investors.”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":385,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":333344863797400,"gmtCreate":1722411054909,"gmtModify":1723446969116,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/NVDA\">$NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$ </a> 85","listText":"<a href=\"https://ttm.financial/S/NVDA\">$NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$ </a> 85","text":"$NVIDIA Corp(NVDA)$ 85","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/333344863797400","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":276,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9941177549,"gmtCreate":1680090785382,"gmtModify":1680090789388,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Let see who have the guts and able to invest with wisdom ","listText":"Let see who have the guts and able to invest with wisdom ","text":"Let see who have the guts and able to invest with wisdom","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9941177549","repostId":"1129951895","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"1129951895","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1680056088,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/1129951895?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2023-03-29 10:14","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=1129951895","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a prob","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Tesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.</li><li>This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.</li><li>A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.</li><li>Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.</li><li>I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.</li></ul><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/15402ca3ce706835733f8b286527cedb\" tg-width=\"750\" tg-height=\"500\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>jetcityimage</p><p><b>Tesla, Inc.</b>(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.</p><h2>Tesla's news</h2><p>Let me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle ("EV"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.</p><p>Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class cars<i>twice</i>. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/dc37395688a1638838e425bc1117e759\" tg-width=\"565\" tg-height=\"298\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/></p><p>Oilprice.com</p><p>Please have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.</p><p>Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts on<i>long-term</i>demand still remains to be seen.</p><p>Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about a<i>conservative</i>company not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has not<i>recently</i>come up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.</p><h2>The industries Tesla operates in</h2><p>I would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.</p><p>The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.</p><p>A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.</p><p>As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.</p><h2>Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stock</h2><p>The risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.</p><h2>Valuations</h2><p>Tesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.</p><p>Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/cad2e820c78b04f89b43d3fdd949bf1d\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Sure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.</p><p>The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0dacbf517cc9f522da89e3c5d66eaee2\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>The current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.</p><p>To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/632086a60cde6f6501cd8eefe9a3cb58\" tg-width=\"635\" tg-height=\"433\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\" width=\"100%\" height=\"auto\"/>Data byYCharts</p><p>Just a friendly reminder that a "good" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.</p><p>So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.</p><h2>Risks to my thesis</h2><ul><li>The first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.</li><li>The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.</li><li>Tesla will become the "next Apple" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.</li><li>After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.</li><li>Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.</li></ul><h2>Conclusion</h2><p>Overall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.</p></body></html>","source":"seekingalpha","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Tesla Stock - I Have Warned You</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nTesla Stock - I Have Warned You\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2023-03-29 10:14 GMT+8 <a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"TSLA":"特斯拉"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4590615-tesla-stock-i-have-warned-you","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/5a36db9d73b4222bc376d24ccc48c8a4","article_id":"1129951895","content_text":"SummaryTesla, Inc.'s prices for the most expensive models have been reduced.This is obviously a problem for the EV maker's profit margins.A recession is near, and the EV market is not going through its best days.Tesla stock is ridiculously overvalued.I would not recommend to short sell Tesla stock, either.jetcityimageTesla, Inc.(NASDAQ:TSLA) stock has gained sincemy last article. Yet, the recent banking crisis and, most importantly, the fact the company was forced to decrease its Model S and Model X prices make me somewhat concerned. I mentioned inmy previous article that as a popular stock,Tesla might well risein value. However, the fundamentals were not there and are even worse now. But let me explain this later on.Tesla's newsLet me first mention that Model S and Model X models are considered to beluxurious. In my view, electric vehicles generally are considered to be premium-class goods. Indeed, it is much cheaper to buy a used car powered on normal petrol than it is to buy an electric vehicle (\"EV\"). But Model S and Model X are more expensive than other cars produced by Tesla. The demand for such premiumgoods produced by Tesla is normally inelastic to price cuts. Let me explain.Higher-income, environmentally cautious consumers that also like Elon Musk's brand are likely to be Tesla's potential customers. They want to buy a higher-class good and are not prevented from doing so even if the price of this good rises somewhat. But recently Tesla's management even had to decrease the prices of its higher-class carstwice. To me, this signals a substantial fall in demand. And the management is doing the best it can to somehow mitigate the situation.Oilprice.comPlease have a lookat the table above. Before January 12, Tesla's Model X Plaid used to cost $138,990. Now its price is only $109 990. This is Tesla's most expensive model, and the costs to produce it are also the highest of the whole product range. The prices for other models were also substantially cut.Obviously, this means that Tesla's profit margins should fall even lower. The impact of these price cuts onlong-termdemand still remains to be seen.Theinvestor's presentationalso signaled that Tesla did not provide specifics about the company's new models. There is nothing tragic about aconservativecompany not coming up with new products and outstanding innovations every year, indeed. But in order to compensate for this, it has to be a very stable cash cow to provide real value for its investors. Tesla, however, positions itself as a high-growth company but has notrecentlycome up with any innovations. Instead, a lot has been said about the company's past achievements.The industries Tesla operates inI would rather agree with the thesis that the industries Tesla operates in, namely electric vehicles, energy storage, and artificial intelligence, all have a bright future. After all, the green energy trend is very popular in many countries. Climate-conscious consumers are all of Tesla's existing and potential customers. However, there are too many unknowns, in my opinion.The whole electric vehicle market is facing fairly thin profit margins. But it is still quite strange to say that only Tesla would be the one to gain as soon as the whole sector manages to lower the costs and boost the revenues. I know many Tesla fans expect Elon Musk's company to become the next Apple (AAPL) in terms of profitability and cash reserves. They also say Tesla would maintain its leading market position and become a cash cow. But too many assumptions are made here.A relatively small proportion of Tesla's business is indeed devoted to energy storage. Obviously, quite little revenue is generated by this. Although this business division has been showing excellent growth, the company reportedly postponed its solar roof installations. Moreover, in autumn 2022 one of its Megapack batteries caught fire at a power storage site in California.As concerns Tesla's artificial intelligence technologies, the company is not monetizing these just yet. It has splendid projects to use AI to cut production costs, but these plans have not come true just yet. Moreover, artificial intelligence technologies are quite new and we cannot accurately predict just how profitable they may be for Tesla. Yet, the valuations take these mega-plans into account.Macroeconomic risks for Tesla stockThe risks for Tesla stock are obvious, in my view, now when the banking system is not going through its best days. TSLA is a typical glamorous and overvalued stock. It is rising during fair days and is doing bad when the global economy is suffering. The Fed still predicts one more interest hike this year in spite of the whole banking turmoil. All investors, myself included, would not do well in that case. But particularly at risk are companies that are not very profitable. Also, stocks that are overvalued would not do particularly well. The most obvious example is that of TSLA stock. I will explain this in the next section of my article.ValuationsTesla's stock is still overvalued in spite of the fact it is trading sufficiently below its all-time highs.Let's start with the company's price-to-earnings (P/E) ratio history.Data byYChartsSure, compared to what it used to be before, TSLA stock seems to be excellent value for money. But a P/E of 53 is unreasonable, even for a high-tech company with a bright future.The same is true of the company's price-to-free cash flow (P/CF) ratio.Data byYChartsThe current P/FCF of 88 is extremely high, especially given the fact the company's cash position has improved.To finish off my valuation analysis, let me also show you Tesla's price-to-book (P/B) ratio graph.Data byYChartsJust a friendly reminder that a \"good\" P/B ratio should ideally be between 1 and 3. Tesla's is almost 14.So, TSLA is extremely overvalued, especially if we assume a recession is near.Risks to my thesisThe first risk is the fact Tesla stock is very popular and many investors seek opportunities to add to their positions.The Fed will start easing, thus preventing recession. This is obviously bullish for all companies, not just Tesla.Tesla will become the \"next Apple\" in terms of debt, cash, profitability, and market size. However, it is still a risk to pay so much money for a company that is forced to substantially reduce its profit margins and is facing so much competition.After all, the company's cash position has improved. The revolving credit facility has been extended and Tesla's credit rating is finally one notch above junk.Tesla has some new technologies, including artificial intelligence and smart production innovations. I gave the company credit for these inmy previous article.ConclusionOverall, Tesla, Inc. is being forced to cut its pricing even for the most luxurious models, which is quite a worrying sign. TSLA stock is overvalued. We might face a recession in the near future, which would mean even more downside for both Tesla's EV business and its stock price. At the same time, I would not short-sell TSLA stock, either, given Tesla's cash and debt improvements. So, overall, I remain cautiously bearish on TSLA stock.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":296,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":9919139218,"gmtCreate":1663747478835,"gmtModify":1676537328516,"author":{"id":"4116912402726192","authorId":"4116912402726192","name":"Albert Teo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/b62fa5015b5e27d5c0e89fe0da149106","crmLevel":5,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4116912402726192","authorIdStr":"4116912402726192"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"","listText":"","text":"","images":[{"img":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/3251a2e432586a1ec870880604f80a37"}],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9919139218","repostId":"2268917780","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2268917780","kind":"news","pubTimestamp":1663732800,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2268917780?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2022-09-21 12:00","market":"us","language":"en","title":"Alibaba: The Charlie Munger And Li Lu Divergence","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2268917780","media":"Seeking Alpha","summary":"SummaryGreat minds think alike. But what is even more interesting is when they do not.Two of the mos","content":"<html><head></head><body><h2>Summary</h2><ul><li>Great minds think alike. But what is even more interesting is when they do not.</li><li>Two of the most successful investors of our time, Charlie Munger and Li Lu, diverge starkly on Alibaba.</li><li>A comparison of their views and actions best illustrates the opportunities and risks associated with the investment.</li><li>Risks commonly mentioned (VIE, delisting, etc.) are all symptoms to me, while Li Lu’s Civilization 2.5 theory offers a more fundamental explanation of the underlying cause.</li><li>Both bears and bulls can benefit from them and make more informed decisions.</li></ul><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/0942ec404ebc02752e62408a90fefc89\" tg-width=\"1080\" tg-height=\"607\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>JuSun</span></p><h2>The investment thesis</h2><p>Charlie Munger needs no introduction, but some readers may need a bit more information on Li Lu. They have been close friends for almost 2 decades. Charlie Munger described Li Lu as the “Chinese Warren Buffett.” And to Li Lu, Munger has been a "mentor and good friend" (in Li Lu's own words). The following brief bio taken from Wikipedia provides a bit more info on Li Lu (slightly edited by me):</p><blockquote>Li Lu (born April 6, 1966) is a Chinese-born American value investor, businessman, and philanthropist. In 1997, he founded Himalaya Capital Management, known for its disciplined and value-oriented approach to investing. Li met Charlie Munger on Thanksgiving 2003 and they have been friends since. With Munger's help, Li transformed his hedge fund into a long-only investment vehicle which is currently focused on global investment opportunities. Munger has stated that Li Lu is the only outside manager he’s ever invested with and he’s described him as the “Chinese Warren Buffett.” Li Lu has been known as the man who introduced the Chinese battery and electric car maker BYD Company to Charlie Munger and Warren Buffett.</blockquote><p>It is interesting to observe that these two investors, who share both close friendship and also investing principles, diverge starkly on Alibaba Group Holding Limited (NYSE:BABA,OTCPK:BABAF). Munger has a large position in BABA, but Li Lu does not. And this leads us to the main topic of today. You will see a comparison of their views and actions best illustrates the opportunities and risks associated with the BABA investment. On the one side, the current BABA situation presents an opportunity to buy a good business on the operation table, a hallmark investment strategy from Munger. On the other hand, this article will also dive into the view of Li Lu, especially his view on the civilization 2.5 status in China, as elaborated immediately below.</p><h2>Li Lu, BABA, and Civilization 2.5</h2><p>Li Lu’s current holdings in his Himalaya Capital Management are shown in the chart below. As mentioned above, Munger described him as the “Chinese Warren Buffett.” But from his holdings, he is more Buffett than Buffett himself in terms of concentration. His portfolio consists of a total of 6 positions only and the largest position - Micron (MU) - represents almost 34% of the total portfolio size.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/a0cfbdc8a33a6b476b854ac581dd6f60\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"157\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Source: dataroma.com</span></p><p>You can also see that half of his picks overlap with Munger and Warren Buffett. All three of them like Bank of America (BAC), Apple (AAPL), and of course Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A,BRK.B).</p><p>However, BABA is where he and Munger diverge. As to be detailed in the next Section, Munger holds a sizeable BABA position, but Li Lu does not. So naturally, it triggers the question: Why? Seeking Alpha authors have detailed many risks such as VIE, delisting, et al. To me, these are symptoms. In my view, Li Lu’s following Civilization 2.5 theory offers a more fundamental explanation of the underlying cause. The theory was presented in a lecture he gave in 2015, and I think it is worth quoting in full (the emphases were added by me). And readers are highly encouraged to read the transcript in its entirety:</p><blockquote>I believe China is at interim stage between Civilization 2.0 and Civilization 3.0.<i>Let’s call it Civilization 2.5. China has come a long way but still has a long road ahead.</i>Therefore, <i>I think there is a high probability that China will continue on the main track of Civilization 3.0, as the cost of deviation is very high.</i>If you have a good understanding of China’s culture, people and history, you will agree that China will forge forward. This is particularly the case now that you have a better understanding of the essence of modern civilization. There is almost no chance of China leaving the common market, and the probability of China changing its market rules is also very small. Thus, it is highly probable that, in the next 2 to 3 decades, China will remain in the global market system, and adhere to free market principles, in addition to promoting science & technology development.</blockquote><p>It will take time to go from Civilization 2.5 to 3.0. And surprises and setbacks like VIE and delisting are likely (plus a bunch more that we cannot even imagine today). So, given the timeframe and uncertainties, it is an understandable decision that some investors, Li Lu himself included, decided to stay on the sideline.</p><p>While Munger, apparently focused more on the opportunity side of the coin given that China will have no choice but to keep upgrading to 3.0 because “the cost of deviation is very high.” And we will elaborate on Munger's thinking and actions immediately below.</p><h2>Munger and BABA</h2><p>The following chart summarizes the key events that led to Munger’s actions. As you can see from the chart below, he started buying BABA shares in 2021 Q1, after a large correction in its share price caused by the cancellation of the highly anticipated Ant Group IPO. He then doubled down his stake in Alibaba twice: first in 2021 Q3, and then again in 2021 Q4.</p><p>There are certainly good reasons for Munger’s decision. In the near term, the market reacted too quickly to a series of short-term events based on perception (based on the information available at that time). And there is no lack of major events in the past 1 or 2 years as summarized in the chart (including a war, specifically the Russian/Ukraine war). As a result, even though BABA’s core business is intact, its valuation became too compressed when Munger pulled the trigger to double down his bets. It is a textbook reflection of his wisdom of buying a good business on the operating table. At the prices he bought into BABA, it was valued as a terminally cheap and stagnating business, while its core fundamentals not only remain intact but also well-positioned for growth.</p><p>In the longer term, as just mentioned, not only China will continue to upgrade to Civilization 3.0, but also other countries in the Asian Pacific region. And such an upgrade will present spectacular growth opportunities, and BABA is well-positioned to benefit from such an upgrade, as to be discussed next.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/5f64d51b9956d82d5a712c375aa004d1\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"266\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>Source: Author based on Yahoo data</span></p><h2>The upgrade to civilization 3.0 and BABA</h2><p>It is an unstopped trend that our world is moving toward e-commerce, and the epicenter of the remaining movement will be China and the Asian-Pacific region. Even though many of us are already impressed by the success of e-commerce giants like BABA and Amazon (AMZN), the movement toward e-commerce has just actually gotten started and the bulk of the growth is yet to come. The global e-commerce market size was valued at USD 9.09 trillion in 2019 and is expected to grow at a compound annual growth rate ("CAGR") of 14.7% from 2020 to 2027. The secular support is even stronger for BABA as the Asia Pacific region is already dominating the market for e-commerce with a share of 55.3% in 2019. Furthermore, this region is expected to witness the fastest growth from 2020 to 2027 as seen below. Even by as early as 2023 – in about 2 years that is - retail e-commerce sales in Asia-Pacific are projected to be greater than the rest of the world combined.</p><p><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/3e1c49046f66ec88ec7e79914feb0658\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"335\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/></p><p>And BABA stands best poised to benefit from this upgrade, especially from the Asian-Pacific momentum. As argued in my earlier article:</p><blockquote><i>Capitalizing on the continued e-commerce growth requires a combination of scale and reach, government support, and technology. And also, finally, geographical proximity and cultural compatibility certainly help. And BABA has all these stars aligned for its further expansion – especially in the Asian-Pacific region. The China government might be tightening its regulations on its domestic market, but it certainly encourages the overseas expansion of its tech giants like BABA. And BABA has already accomplished a substantial lead in capturing overseas markets, with its close neighbors such as Indonesia and Vietnam posting revenue growth of over 100% YoY recently.</i></blockquote><p>Risks and final thoughts</p><p>To recap, the current BABA situation is a textbook example of high-risk and high-return investment opportunities. There are plenty of risks in the near term and also in the long term. There has been no lack of major events in the past 1- or 2-years surrounding BABA (Ant IPO, fine, VEI, delisting, et al). In the near term, the China-U.S. trade tension and global geopolitical frictions will keep the stock prices in a highly volatile state. And I am sure there be more hiccups and surprises that investors have not thought about yet showing up in the near future.</p><p>In the long term, China is going through an upgrade from civilization 2.5 to 3.0. I agree with Li Lu’s view that China will have no choice but to keep upgrading to 3.0 because “the cost of deviation is very high.” But at the same time, the path of the upgrade will be long and full of setbacks. Independent thinkers like Munger and Li, despite their opposite actions, are essentially betting on the two sides of the same coin.</p><p>I am siding with Munger there and betting on the opportunity side. All the risks and opportunities mentioned above should apply equally to major China tech firms. However, I think the market now overly exaggerates the risk side for BABA and underestimates the opportunity side, creating an asymmetric opportunity. As you can see from the following chart, both the valuation of BABA and JD.com (JD) has been compressed substantially in the past two years. You can see that by the downward trend of the three-year medium of their price to CFO multiple. Despite the common risks/opportunities and also comparable (or even superior profitability as argued in our recent article), BABA was so much more compressed than JD. Its current P/CFO stands at only 10.55x, about 25% below JD’s 13,.98x, and a whopping 43% below its 3-year median of 18.44x.</p><p class=\"t-img-caption\"><img src=\"https://static.tigerbbs.com/c588d4b31a546d6b45775d98e8bd545b\" tg-width=\"640\" tg-height=\"312\" referrerpolicy=\"no-referrer\"/><span>This article was written by</span></p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Alibaba: The Charlie Munger And Li Lu Divergence</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; line-height:1.5; color:#999; background:transparent; }\n.wrapper{ overflow:hidden;word-break:break-all;padding:10px; }\nh1,h2{ font-weight:normal; line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:.6em; }\nh3,h4,h5,h6{ line-height:1.35; margin-bottom:1em; }\nh1{ font-size:24px; }\nh2{ font-size:20px; }\nh3{ font-size:18px; }\nh4{ font-size:16px; }\nh5{ font-size:14px; }\nh6{ font-size:12px; }\np,ul,ol,blockquote,dl,table{ margin:1.2em 0; }\nul,ol{ margin-left:2em; }\nul{ list-style:disc; }\nol{ list-style:decimal; }\nli,li p{ margin:10px 0;}\nimg{ max-width:100%;display:block;margin:0 auto 1em; }\nblockquote{ color:#B5B2B1; border-left:3px solid #aaa; padding:1em; }\nstrong,b{font-weight:bold;}\nem,i{font-style:italic;}\ntable{ width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;border-spacing:1px;margin:1em 0;font-size:.9em; }\nth,td{ padding:5px;text-align:left;border:1px solid #aaa; }\nth{ font-weight:bold;background:#5d5d5d; }\n.symbol-link{font-weight:bold;}\n/* header{ border-bottom:1px solid #494756; } */\n.title{ margin:0 0 8px;line-height:1.3;color:#ddd; }\n.meta {color:#5e5c6d;font-size:13px;margin:0 0 .5em; }\na{text-decoration:none; color:#2a4b87;}\n.meta .head { display: inline-block; overflow: hidden}\n.head .h-thumb { width: 30px; height: 30px; margin: 0; padding: 0; border-radius: 50%; float: left;}\n.head .h-content { margin: 0; padding: 0 0 0 9px; float: left;}\n.head .h-name {font-size: 13px; color: #eee; margin: 0;}\n.head .h-time {font-size: 11px; color: #7E829C; margin: 0;line-height: 11px;}\n.small {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.9); -webkit-transform: scale(0.9); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.smaller {font-size: 12.5px; display: inline-block; transform: scale(0.8); -webkit-transform: scale(0.8); transform-origin: left; -webkit-transform-origin: left;}\n.bt-text {font-size: 12px;margin: 1.5em 0 0 0}\n.bt-text p {margin: 0}\n</style>\n</head>\n<body>\n<div class=\"wrapper\">\n<header>\n<h2 class=\"title\">\nAlibaba: The Charlie Munger And Li Lu Divergence\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n2022-09-21 12:00 GMT+8 <a href=https://seekingalpha.com/article/4541883-alibaba-the-charlie-munger-and-li-lu-divergence><strong>Seeking Alpha</strong></a>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<div>\n<p>SummaryGreat minds think alike. But what is even more interesting is when they do not.Two of the most successful investors of our time, Charlie Munger and Li Lu, diverge starkly on Alibaba.A ...</p>\n\n<a href=\"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4541883-alibaba-the-charlie-munger-and-li-lu-divergence\">Web Link</a>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"09988":"阿里巴巴-W","BABA":"阿里巴巴"},"source_url":"https://seekingalpha.com/article/4541883-alibaba-the-charlie-munger-and-li-lu-divergence","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2268917780","content_text":"SummaryGreat minds think alike. But what is even more interesting is when they do not.Two of the most successful investors of our time, Charlie Munger and Li Lu, diverge starkly on Alibaba.A comparison of their views and actions best illustrates the opportunities and risks associated with the investment.Risks commonly mentioned (VIE, delisting, etc.) are all symptoms to me, while Li Lu’s Civilization 2.5 theory offers a more fundamental explanation of the underlying cause.Both bears and bulls can benefit from them and make more informed decisions.JuSunThe investment thesisCharlie Munger needs no introduction, but some readers may need a bit more information on Li Lu. They have been close friends for almost 2 decades. Charlie Munger described Li Lu as the “Chinese Warren Buffett.” And to Li Lu, Munger has been a \"mentor and good friend\" (in Li Lu's own words). The following brief bio taken from Wikipedia provides a bit more info on Li Lu (slightly edited by me):Li Lu (born April 6, 1966) is a Chinese-born American value investor, businessman, and philanthropist. In 1997, he founded Himalaya Capital Management, known for its disciplined and value-oriented approach to investing. Li met Charlie Munger on Thanksgiving 2003 and they have been friends since. With Munger's help, Li transformed his hedge fund into a long-only investment vehicle which is currently focused on global investment opportunities. Munger has stated that Li Lu is the only outside manager he’s ever invested with and he’s described him as the “Chinese Warren Buffett.” Li Lu has been known as the man who introduced the Chinese battery and electric car maker BYD Company to Charlie Munger and Warren Buffett.It is interesting to observe that these two investors, who share both close friendship and also investing principles, diverge starkly on Alibaba Group Holding Limited (NYSE:BABA,OTCPK:BABAF). Munger has a large position in BABA, but Li Lu does not. And this leads us to the main topic of today. You will see a comparison of their views and actions best illustrates the opportunities and risks associated with the BABA investment. On the one side, the current BABA situation presents an opportunity to buy a good business on the operation table, a hallmark investment strategy from Munger. On the other hand, this article will also dive into the view of Li Lu, especially his view on the civilization 2.5 status in China, as elaborated immediately below.Li Lu, BABA, and Civilization 2.5Li Lu’s current holdings in his Himalaya Capital Management are shown in the chart below. As mentioned above, Munger described him as the “Chinese Warren Buffett.” But from his holdings, he is more Buffett than Buffett himself in terms of concentration. His portfolio consists of a total of 6 positions only and the largest position - Micron (MU) - represents almost 34% of the total portfolio size.Source: dataroma.comYou can also see that half of his picks overlap with Munger and Warren Buffett. All three of them like Bank of America (BAC), Apple (AAPL), and of course Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A,BRK.B).However, BABA is where he and Munger diverge. As to be detailed in the next Section, Munger holds a sizeable BABA position, but Li Lu does not. So naturally, it triggers the question: Why? Seeking Alpha authors have detailed many risks such as VIE, delisting, et al. To me, these are symptoms. In my view, Li Lu’s following Civilization 2.5 theory offers a more fundamental explanation of the underlying cause. The theory was presented in a lecture he gave in 2015, and I think it is worth quoting in full (the emphases were added by me). And readers are highly encouraged to read the transcript in its entirety:I believe China is at interim stage between Civilization 2.0 and Civilization 3.0.Let’s call it Civilization 2.5. China has come a long way but still has a long road ahead.Therefore, I think there is a high probability that China will continue on the main track of Civilization 3.0, as the cost of deviation is very high.If you have a good understanding of China’s culture, people and history, you will agree that China will forge forward. This is particularly the case now that you have a better understanding of the essence of modern civilization. There is almost no chance of China leaving the common market, and the probability of China changing its market rules is also very small. Thus, it is highly probable that, in the next 2 to 3 decades, China will remain in the global market system, and adhere to free market principles, in addition to promoting science & technology development.It will take time to go from Civilization 2.5 to 3.0. And surprises and setbacks like VIE and delisting are likely (plus a bunch more that we cannot even imagine today). So, given the timeframe and uncertainties, it is an understandable decision that some investors, Li Lu himself included, decided to stay on the sideline.While Munger, apparently focused more on the opportunity side of the coin given that China will have no choice but to keep upgrading to 3.0 because “the cost of deviation is very high.” And we will elaborate on Munger's thinking and actions immediately below.Munger and BABAThe following chart summarizes the key events that led to Munger’s actions. As you can see from the chart below, he started buying BABA shares in 2021 Q1, after a large correction in its share price caused by the cancellation of the highly anticipated Ant Group IPO. He then doubled down his stake in Alibaba twice: first in 2021 Q3, and then again in 2021 Q4.There are certainly good reasons for Munger’s decision. In the near term, the market reacted too quickly to a series of short-term events based on perception (based on the information available at that time). And there is no lack of major events in the past 1 or 2 years as summarized in the chart (including a war, specifically the Russian/Ukraine war). As a result, even though BABA’s core business is intact, its valuation became too compressed when Munger pulled the trigger to double down his bets. It is a textbook reflection of his wisdom of buying a good business on the operating table. At the prices he bought into BABA, it was valued as a terminally cheap and stagnating business, while its core fundamentals not only remain intact but also well-positioned for growth.In the longer term, as just mentioned, not only China will continue to upgrade to Civilization 3.0, but also other countries in the Asian Pacific region. And such an upgrade will present spectacular growth opportunities, and BABA is well-positioned to benefit from such an upgrade, as to be discussed next.Source: Author based on Yahoo dataThe upgrade to civilization 3.0 and BABAIt is an unstopped trend that our world is moving toward e-commerce, and the epicenter of the remaining movement will be China and the Asian-Pacific region. Even though many of us are already impressed by the success of e-commerce giants like BABA and Amazon (AMZN), the movement toward e-commerce has just actually gotten started and the bulk of the growth is yet to come. The global e-commerce market size was valued at USD 9.09 trillion in 2019 and is expected to grow at a compound annual growth rate (\"CAGR\") of 14.7% from 2020 to 2027. The secular support is even stronger for BABA as the Asia Pacific region is already dominating the market for e-commerce with a share of 55.3% in 2019. Furthermore, this region is expected to witness the fastest growth from 2020 to 2027 as seen below. Even by as early as 2023 – in about 2 years that is - retail e-commerce sales in Asia-Pacific are projected to be greater than the rest of the world combined.And BABA stands best poised to benefit from this upgrade, especially from the Asian-Pacific momentum. As argued in my earlier article:Capitalizing on the continued e-commerce growth requires a combination of scale and reach, government support, and technology. And also, finally, geographical proximity and cultural compatibility certainly help. And BABA has all these stars aligned for its further expansion – especially in the Asian-Pacific region. The China government might be tightening its regulations on its domestic market, but it certainly encourages the overseas expansion of its tech giants like BABA. And BABA has already accomplished a substantial lead in capturing overseas markets, with its close neighbors such as Indonesia and Vietnam posting revenue growth of over 100% YoY recently.Risks and final thoughtsTo recap, the current BABA situation is a textbook example of high-risk and high-return investment opportunities. There are plenty of risks in the near term and also in the long term. There has been no lack of major events in the past 1- or 2-years surrounding BABA (Ant IPO, fine, VEI, delisting, et al). In the near term, the China-U.S. trade tension and global geopolitical frictions will keep the stock prices in a highly volatile state. And I am sure there be more hiccups and surprises that investors have not thought about yet showing up in the near future.In the long term, China is going through an upgrade from civilization 2.5 to 3.0. I agree with Li Lu’s view that China will have no choice but to keep upgrading to 3.0 because “the cost of deviation is very high.” But at the same time, the path of the upgrade will be long and full of setbacks. Independent thinkers like Munger and Li, despite their opposite actions, are essentially betting on the two sides of the same coin.I am siding with Munger there and betting on the opportunity side. All the risks and opportunities mentioned above should apply equally to major China tech firms. However, I think the market now overly exaggerates the risk side for BABA and underestimates the opportunity side, creating an asymmetric opportunity. As you can see from the following chart, both the valuation of BABA and JD.com (JD) has been compressed substantially in the past two years. You can see that by the downward trend of the three-year medium of their price to CFO multiple. Despite the common risks/opportunities and also comparable (or even superior profitability as argued in our recent article), BABA was so much more compressed than JD. Its current P/CFO stands at only 10.55x, about 25% below JD’s 13,.98x, and a whopping 43% below its 3-year median of 18.44x.This article was written by","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":473,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":1,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}