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Nvidia's Stock Is Soaring Largely Thanks to Microsoft, Alphabet and Tech's Other AI Giants. That Won't Last
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That Won't Last\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-07-09 10:14</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>Companies are spending big to develop their own AI chips so they don't have to keep paying Nvidia</p><p>Within a few years, AI chips will sell at a small fraction of Nvidia's 'only game in town' price.</p><p>Artificial intelligence and seven (supposedly magnificent) stocks have been driving the U.S. market's performance for a while. I agree with the market - these companies are magnificent. I'd want my kids to work for any of them.</p><p>But there's a magnificent difference between a magnificent company and a magnificent stock - the difference lies in magnificent valuation. The price you pay for the shares of a company, even the magnificent ones, matters. Of course, I could have written these same words about Nvidia <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">$(NVDA)$</a> when its shares were much lower. I'll always look dumb questioning apostasy until I'm not. I'm used to it.</p><p>I'm fairly certain what I'm about to say will age well, though not in a linear way. Let me tell you a story.</p><p>I was talking to a friend. He told me a tree had fallen on his almost-new car. His car was totaled, and he got a check from insurance. He still had the memory of buying a car during the pandemic, how difficult it was and how expensive cars were. He said, to his shock, when he went to buy a replacement, he found car dealers fighting for his business. He got a car at a huge discount to the sticker price, because the market is oversupplied with cars. Predictably, high prices a few years ago led to higher supply today, and thus lower prices.</p><p>Then the conversation (as you would expect) shifted to the stock market and, of course, Nvidia. He asked me what I thought about it.</p><p>I told him that the market is now flooded with cars, despite them being difficult to get a few years ago. And the same is happening with GPU chips.</p><p>A few years ago, some people thought high prices would persist in the car market indefinitely. Though I imagine most people thought that at some point it would end in lower prices. Here's all you need to know: The laws of economics work the same way with microchips.</p><p>Today, Alphabet <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOGL\">$(GOOGL)$</a>, Apple <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">$(AAPL)$</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/META\">Meta Platforms</a>, Tesla <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$(TSLA)$</a> and Amazon <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">$(AMZN)$</a>, for example, are buying a very large number of chips from Nvidia, as it is the only game in town. Nvidia's skyrocketing profitability is at their expense. Actually, it's a capital expenditure - only a portion of their spending that shows up in Nvidia's revenue shows up in Alphabet's earnings (income statement expenses), for example.</p><p>As competing products hit the market, Nvidia's sales will falter, and so will its margins and earnings.</p><p>Let me explain, using Alphabet as an example: Nvidia is currently selling some of its AI microprocessors for $40,000 a pop. Microprocessors are capital expenditures, thus they are depreciated over five years or so. Per accounting rules, only $8,000 of the $40,000 Alphabet pays to Nvidia shows up in Alphabet's income statement in the form of depreciation, while the full $40,000 shows up in Nvidia's revenues. That's why these companies' free cash flow often is much lower than their income.</p><p>These tech giants aren't pleased to be paying Nvidia for their needs. So, in addition to Intel <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/INTC\">$(INTC)$</a> and AMD <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMD\">$(AMD)$</a>, these companies are spending big to develop their own AI chips. Moreover, dozens of other companies we haven't heard of are working on AI chips.</p><p>Fast-forward a few years, and AI chips will sell at a small fraction of Nvidia's "only game in town" price. The cure for high prices is high prices. This is what I love about capitalism.</p><p>The argument I hear about Nvidia stock is that it's not insanely expensive, as it is trading at somewhere around 30-40 times future earnings. True. Though it's a high valuation for a $3 trillion company, it's not "insane."</p><p>But, and this is a huge but, the "E" in this P/E calculation is a bit misleading and provides a false sense of security. As competing products hit the market, Nvidia's sales will falter, and so will its margins and earnings.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","BK4553":"喜马拉雅资本持仓","BK4567":"ESG概念","IE00BMPRXN33.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN 5G CONNECTIVITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0109392836.USD":"富兰克林科技股A","LU0820562030.AUD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMH2\" (AUDHDG) H2 INC","BK4555":"新能源车","LU0128525689.USD":"TEMPLETON GLOBAL BALANCED \"A\"(USD) ACC","LU0965509010.AUD":"AB LOW VOLATILITY EQUITY PORTFOLIO \"AD\" (AUDHDG) INC","BK4566":"资本集团","SG9999015945.SGD":"LionGlobal Disruptive Innovation Fund A SGD","LU1242518931.SGD":"Fullerton Lux Funds - Asia Absolute Alpha A Acc SGD","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","NVDA":"英伟达","BK4559":"巴菲特持仓","BK4515":"5G概念","LU0070302665.USD":"FRANKLIN MUTUAL U.S. VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU2326559502.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity P/A SGD-H","LU0158827948.USD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL SUSTAINABILITY \"A\" (USD) INC","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","IE00BD6J9T35.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN NEXT GENERATION MOBILITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU0444971666.USD":"天利全球科技基金","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","LU1064131342.USD":"Fullerton Lux Funds - Global Absolute Alpha A Acc USD","LU0276348264.USD":"THREADNEEDLE (LUX) GLOBAL DYNAMIC REAL RETURN\"AUP\" (USD) INC","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","LU2602419157.SGD":"HSBC ISLAMIC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"AC\" (SGD) ACC","BK4512":"苹果概念","LU0965509101.SGD":"AB LOW VOLATILITY EQUITY PORTFOLIO \"A\" (SGDHDG) ACC","LU0289941410.SGD":"AB FCP I Dynamic Diversified AX SGD","LU1303367103.USD":"摩根大通多经理另类基金 A (acc)","LU0289739343.SGD":"SUSTAINABLE GLOBAL THEMATIC PORTFOLIO \"A\" (SGD) ACC","BK4511":"特斯拉概念","LU2098885051.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - Multi-Manager Alternatives A (acc) SGD","BK4514":"搜索引擎","LU2458330243.SGD":"FRANKLIN SHARIAH TECHNOLOGY \"A-H1\" (SGDHDG) ACC","LU0170899867.USD":"EASTSPRING INVESTMENTS WORLD VALUE EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","IE00B19Z3581.USD":"Legg Mason ClearBridge - Value A Acc USD","LU0417517546.SGD":"Allianz US Equity Cl AT Acc SGD","BK4554":"元宇宙及AR概念"},"source_url":"https://dowjonesnews.com/newdjn/logon.aspx?AL=N","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2449477578","content_text":"Companies are spending big to develop their own AI chips so they don't have to keep paying NvidiaWithin a few years, AI chips will sell at a small fraction of Nvidia's 'only game in town' price.Artificial intelligence and seven (supposedly magnificent) stocks have been driving the U.S. market's performance for a while. I agree with the market - these companies are magnificent. I'd want my kids to work for any of them.But there's a magnificent difference between a magnificent company and a magnificent stock - the difference lies in magnificent valuation. The price you pay for the shares of a company, even the magnificent ones, matters. Of course, I could have written these same words about Nvidia $(NVDA)$ when its shares were much lower. I'll always look dumb questioning apostasy until I'm not. I'm used to it.I'm fairly certain what I'm about to say will age well, though not in a linear way. Let me tell you a story.I was talking to a friend. He told me a tree had fallen on his almost-new car. His car was totaled, and he got a check from insurance. He still had the memory of buying a car during the pandemic, how difficult it was and how expensive cars were. He said, to his shock, when he went to buy a replacement, he found car dealers fighting for his business. He got a car at a huge discount to the sticker price, because the market is oversupplied with cars. Predictably, high prices a few years ago led to higher supply today, and thus lower prices.Then the conversation (as you would expect) shifted to the stock market and, of course, Nvidia. He asked me what I thought about it.I told him that the market is now flooded with cars, despite them being difficult to get a few years ago. And the same is happening with GPU chips.A few years ago, some people thought high prices would persist in the car market indefinitely. Though I imagine most people thought that at some point it would end in lower prices. Here's all you need to know: The laws of economics work the same way with microchips.Today, Alphabet $(GOOGL)$, Apple $(AAPL)$, Meta Platforms, Tesla $(TSLA)$ and Amazon $(AMZN)$, for example, are buying a very large number of chips from Nvidia, as it is the only game in town. Nvidia's skyrocketing profitability is at their expense. Actually, it's a capital expenditure - only a portion of their spending that shows up in Nvidia's revenue shows up in Alphabet's earnings (income statement expenses), for example.As competing products hit the market, Nvidia's sales will falter, and so will its margins and earnings.Let me explain, using Alphabet as an example: Nvidia is currently selling some of its AI microprocessors for $40,000 a pop. Microprocessors are capital expenditures, thus they are depreciated over five years or so. Per accounting rules, only $8,000 of the $40,000 Alphabet pays to Nvidia shows up in Alphabet's income statement in the form of depreciation, while the full $40,000 shows up in Nvidia's revenues. That's why these companies' free cash flow often is much lower than their income.These tech giants aren't pleased to be paying Nvidia for their needs. So, in addition to Intel $(INTC)$ and AMD $(AMD)$, these companies are spending big to develop their own AI chips. Moreover, dozens of other companies we haven't heard of are working on AI chips.Fast-forward a few years, and AI chips will sell at a small fraction of Nvidia's \"only game in town\" price. The cure for high prices is high prices. This is what I love about capitalism.The argument I hear about Nvidia stock is that it's not insanely expensive, as it is trading at somewhere around 30-40 times future earnings. True. Though it's a high valuation for a $3 trillion company, it's not \"insane.\"But, and this is a huge but, the \"E\" in this P/E calculation is a bit misleading and provides a false sense of security. As competing products hit the market, Nvidia's sales will falter, and so will its margins and earnings.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":238,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"hots":[{"id":325782706626832,"gmtCreate":1720560983918,"gmtModify":1720561547190,"author":{"id":"4182132317731652","authorId":"4182132317731652","name":"MyNameIsCSY","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f6647b92a6b2d9169863644b9be60308","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4182132317731652","authorIdStr":"4182132317731652"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"Nothing will last forever[Facepalm] ","listText":"Nothing will last forever[Facepalm] ","text":"Nothing will last forever[Facepalm]","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/325782706626832","repostId":"2449477578","repostType":2,"repost":{"id":"2449477578","kind":"highlight","weMediaInfo":{"introduction":"Dow Jones publishes the world’s most trusted business news and financial information in a variety of media.","home_visible":0,"media_name":"Dow Jones","id":"106","head_image":"https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99"},"pubTimestamp":1720491278,"share":"https://ttm.financial/m/news/2449477578?lang=&edition=fundamental","pubTime":"2024-07-09 10:14","market":"hk","language":"en","title":"Nvidia's Stock Is Soaring Largely Thanks to Microsoft, Alphabet and Tech's Other AI Giants. That Won't Last","url":"https://stock-news.laohu8.com/highlight/detail?id=2449477578","media":"Dow Jones","summary":"Companies are spending big to develop their own AI chips so they don't have to keep paying Nvidia. Within a few years, AI chips will sell at a small fraction of Nvidia's 'only game in town' price.Artificial intelligence and seven stocks have been driving the U.S. market's performance for a while. I agree with the market - these companies are magnificent. I'd want my kids to work for any of them.But there's a magnificent difference between a magnificent company and a magnificent stock - the difference lies in magnificent valuation. The price you pay for the shares of a company, even the magnificent ones, matters. Of course, I could have written these same words about Nvidia when its shares were much lower. I'll always look dumb questioning apostasy until I'm not. I'm used to it.Then the conversation shifted to the stock market and, of course, Nvidia. He asked me what I thought about it.Let me explain, using Alphabet as an example: Nvidia is currently selling some of its AI microproce","content":"<html><head></head><body><p>Companies are spending big to develop their own AI chips so they don't have to keep paying Nvidia</p><p>Within a few years, AI chips will sell at a small fraction of Nvidia's 'only game in town' price.</p><p>Artificial intelligence and seven (supposedly magnificent) stocks have been driving the U.S. market's performance for a while. I agree with the market - these companies are magnificent. I'd want my kids to work for any of them.</p><p>But there's a magnificent difference between a magnificent company and a magnificent stock - the difference lies in magnificent valuation. The price you pay for the shares of a company, even the magnificent ones, matters. Of course, I could have written these same words about Nvidia <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">$(NVDA)$</a> when its shares were much lower. I'll always look dumb questioning apostasy until I'm not. I'm used to it.</p><p>I'm fairly certain what I'm about to say will age well, though not in a linear way. Let me tell you a story.</p><p>I was talking to a friend. He told me a tree had fallen on his almost-new car. His car was totaled, and he got a check from insurance. He still had the memory of buying a car during the pandemic, how difficult it was and how expensive cars were. He said, to his shock, when he went to buy a replacement, he found car dealers fighting for his business. He got a car at a huge discount to the sticker price, because the market is oversupplied with cars. Predictably, high prices a few years ago led to higher supply today, and thus lower prices.</p><p>Then the conversation (as you would expect) shifted to the stock market and, of course, Nvidia. He asked me what I thought about it.</p><p>I told him that the market is now flooded with cars, despite them being difficult to get a few years ago. And the same is happening with GPU chips.</p><p>A few years ago, some people thought high prices would persist in the car market indefinitely. Though I imagine most people thought that at some point it would end in lower prices. Here's all you need to know: The laws of economics work the same way with microchips.</p><p>Today, Alphabet <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOGL\">$(GOOGL)$</a>, Apple <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">$(AAPL)$</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/META\">Meta Platforms</a>, Tesla <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$(TSLA)$</a> and Amazon <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">$(AMZN)$</a>, for example, are buying a very large number of chips from Nvidia, as it is the only game in town. Nvidia's skyrocketing profitability is at their expense. Actually, it's a capital expenditure - only a portion of their spending that shows up in Nvidia's revenue shows up in Alphabet's earnings (income statement expenses), for example.</p><p>As competing products hit the market, Nvidia's sales will falter, and so will its margins and earnings.</p><p>Let me explain, using Alphabet as an example: Nvidia is currently selling some of its AI microprocessors for $40,000 a pop. Microprocessors are capital expenditures, thus they are depreciated over five years or so. Per accounting rules, only $8,000 of the $40,000 Alphabet pays to Nvidia shows up in Alphabet's income statement in the form of depreciation, while the full $40,000 shows up in Nvidia's revenues. That's why these companies' free cash flow often is much lower than their income.</p><p>These tech giants aren't pleased to be paying Nvidia for their needs. So, in addition to Intel <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/INTC\">$(INTC)$</a> and AMD <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMD\">$(AMD)$</a>, these companies are spending big to develop their own AI chips. Moreover, dozens of other companies we haven't heard of are working on AI chips.</p><p>Fast-forward a few years, and AI chips will sell at a small fraction of Nvidia's "only game in town" price. The cure for high prices is high prices. This is what I love about capitalism.</p><p>The argument I hear about Nvidia stock is that it's not insanely expensive, as it is trading at somewhere around 30-40 times future earnings. True. Though it's a high valuation for a $3 trillion company, it's not "insane."</p><p>But, and this is a huge but, the "E" in this P/E calculation is a bit misleading and provides a false sense of security. As competing products hit the market, Nvidia's sales will falter, and so will its margins and earnings.</p></body></html>","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>Nvidia's Stock Is Soaring Largely Thanks to Microsoft, Alphabet and Tech's Other AI Giants. 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That Won't Last\n</h2>\n\n<h4 class=\"meta\">\n\n\n<div class=\"head\" \">\n\n\n<div class=\"h-thumb\" style=\"background-image:url(https://static.tigerbbs.com/150f88aa4d182df19190059f4a365e99);background-size:cover;\"></div>\n\n<div class=\"h-content\">\n<p class=\"h-name\">Dow Jones </p>\n<p class=\"h-time\">2024-07-09 10:14</p>\n</div>\n\n</div>\n\n\n</h4>\n\n</header>\n<article>\n<html><head></head><body><p>Companies are spending big to develop their own AI chips so they don't have to keep paying Nvidia</p><p>Within a few years, AI chips will sell at a small fraction of Nvidia's 'only game in town' price.</p><p>Artificial intelligence and seven (supposedly magnificent) stocks have been driving the U.S. market's performance for a while. I agree with the market - these companies are magnificent. I'd want my kids to work for any of them.</p><p>But there's a magnificent difference between a magnificent company and a magnificent stock - the difference lies in magnificent valuation. The price you pay for the shares of a company, even the magnificent ones, matters. Of course, I could have written these same words about Nvidia <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/NVDA\">$(NVDA)$</a> when its shares were much lower. I'll always look dumb questioning apostasy until I'm not. I'm used to it.</p><p>I'm fairly certain what I'm about to say will age well, though not in a linear way. Let me tell you a story.</p><p>I was talking to a friend. He told me a tree had fallen on his almost-new car. His car was totaled, and he got a check from insurance. He still had the memory of buying a car during the pandemic, how difficult it was and how expensive cars were. He said, to his shock, when he went to buy a replacement, he found car dealers fighting for his business. He got a car at a huge discount to the sticker price, because the market is oversupplied with cars. Predictably, high prices a few years ago led to higher supply today, and thus lower prices.</p><p>Then the conversation (as you would expect) shifted to the stock market and, of course, Nvidia. He asked me what I thought about it.</p><p>I told him that the market is now flooded with cars, despite them being difficult to get a few years ago. And the same is happening with GPU chips.</p><p>A few years ago, some people thought high prices would persist in the car market indefinitely. Though I imagine most people thought that at some point it would end in lower prices. Here's all you need to know: The laws of economics work the same way with microchips.</p><p>Today, Alphabet <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/GOOGL\">$(GOOGL)$</a>, Apple <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AAPL\">$(AAPL)$</a>, <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/META\">Meta Platforms</a>, Tesla <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/TSLA\">$(TSLA)$</a> and Amazon <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMZN\">$(AMZN)$</a>, for example, are buying a very large number of chips from Nvidia, as it is the only game in town. Nvidia's skyrocketing profitability is at their expense. Actually, it's a capital expenditure - only a portion of their spending that shows up in Nvidia's revenue shows up in Alphabet's earnings (income statement expenses), for example.</p><p>As competing products hit the market, Nvidia's sales will falter, and so will its margins and earnings.</p><p>Let me explain, using Alphabet as an example: Nvidia is currently selling some of its AI microprocessors for $40,000 a pop. Microprocessors are capital expenditures, thus they are depreciated over five years or so. Per accounting rules, only $8,000 of the $40,000 Alphabet pays to Nvidia shows up in Alphabet's income statement in the form of depreciation, while the full $40,000 shows up in Nvidia's revenues. That's why these companies' free cash flow often is much lower than their income.</p><p>These tech giants aren't pleased to be paying Nvidia for their needs. So, in addition to Intel <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/INTC\">$(INTC)$</a> and AMD <a href=\"https://laohu8.com/S/AMD\">$(AMD)$</a>, these companies are spending big to develop their own AI chips. Moreover, dozens of other companies we haven't heard of are working on AI chips.</p><p>Fast-forward a few years, and AI chips will sell at a small fraction of Nvidia's "only game in town" price. The cure for high prices is high prices. This is what I love about capitalism.</p><p>The argument I hear about Nvidia stock is that it's not insanely expensive, as it is trading at somewhere around 30-40 times future earnings. True. Though it's a high valuation for a $3 trillion company, it's not "insane."</p><p>But, and this is a huge but, the "E" in this P/E calculation is a bit misleading and provides a false sense of security. As competing products hit the market, Nvidia's sales will falter, and so will its margins and earnings.</p></body></html>\n\n</article>\n</div>\n</body>\n</html>\n","type":0,"thumbnail":"","relate_stocks":{"LU0056508442.USD":"贝莱德世界科技基金A2","BK4553":"喜马拉雅资本持仓","BK4567":"ESG概念","IE00BMPRXN33.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN 5G CONNECTIVITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0109392836.USD":"富兰克林科技股A","LU0820562030.AUD":"ALLIANZ INCOME AND GROWTH \"AMH2\" (AUDHDG) H2 INC","BK4555":"新能源车","LU0128525689.USD":"TEMPLETON GLOBAL BALANCED \"A\"(USD) ACC","LU0965509010.AUD":"AB LOW VOLATILITY EQUITY PORTFOLIO \"AD\" (AUDHDG) INC","BK4566":"资本集团","SG9999015945.SGD":"LionGlobal Disruptive Innovation Fund A SGD","LU1242518931.SGD":"Fullerton Lux Funds - Asia Absolute Alpha A Acc SGD","IE00BWXC8680.SGD":"PINEBRIDGE US LARGE CAP RESEARCH ENHANCED \"A5\" (SGD) ACC","NVDA":"英伟达","BK4559":"巴菲特持仓","BK4515":"5G概念","LU0070302665.USD":"FRANKLIN MUTUAL U.S. VALUE \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU2326559502.SGD":"Natixis Loomis Sayles US Growth Equity P/A SGD-H","LU0158827948.USD":"ALLIANZ GLOBAL SUSTAINABILITY \"A\" (USD) INC","BK4550":"红杉资本持仓","IE00BD6J9T35.USD":"NEUBERGER BERMAN NEXT GENERATION MOBILITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","LU0198837287.USD":"UBS (LUX) EQUITY SICAV - USA GROWTH \"P\" (USD) ACC","LU0444971666.USD":"天利全球科技基金","LU1861215975.USD":"贝莱德新一代科技基金 A2","LU1064131342.USD":"Fullerton Lux Funds - Global Absolute Alpha A Acc USD","LU0276348264.USD":"THREADNEEDLE (LUX) GLOBAL DYNAMIC REAL RETURN\"AUP\" (USD) INC","LU1861220033.SGD":"Blackrock Next Generation Technology A2 SGD-H","LU2602419157.SGD":"HSBC ISLAMIC GLOBAL EQUITY INDEX \"AC\" (SGD) ACC","BK4512":"苹果概念","LU0965509101.SGD":"AB LOW VOLATILITY EQUITY PORTFOLIO \"A\" (SGDHDG) ACC","LU0289941410.SGD":"AB FCP I Dynamic Diversified AX SGD","LU1303367103.USD":"摩根大通多经理另类基金 A (acc)","LU0289739343.SGD":"SUSTAINABLE GLOBAL THEMATIC PORTFOLIO \"A\" (SGD) ACC","BK4511":"特斯拉概念","LU2098885051.SGD":"JPMorgan Funds - Multi-Manager Alternatives A (acc) SGD","BK4514":"搜索引擎","LU2458330243.SGD":"FRANKLIN SHARIAH TECHNOLOGY \"A-H1\" (SGDHDG) ACC","LU0170899867.USD":"EASTSPRING INVESTMENTS WORLD VALUE EQUITY \"A\" (USD) ACC","IE00B19Z3581.USD":"Legg Mason ClearBridge - Value A Acc USD","LU0417517546.SGD":"Allianz US Equity Cl AT Acc SGD","BK4554":"元宇宙及AR概念"},"source_url":"https://dowjonesnews.com/newdjn/logon.aspx?AL=N","is_english":true,"share_image_url":"https://static.laohu8.com/e9f99090a1c2ed51c021029395664489","article_id":"2449477578","content_text":"Companies are spending big to develop their own AI chips so they don't have to keep paying NvidiaWithin a few years, AI chips will sell at a small fraction of Nvidia's 'only game in town' price.Artificial intelligence and seven (supposedly magnificent) stocks have been driving the U.S. market's performance for a while. I agree with the market - these companies are magnificent. I'd want my kids to work for any of them.But there's a magnificent difference between a magnificent company and a magnificent stock - the difference lies in magnificent valuation. The price you pay for the shares of a company, even the magnificent ones, matters. Of course, I could have written these same words about Nvidia $(NVDA)$ when its shares were much lower. I'll always look dumb questioning apostasy until I'm not. I'm used to it.I'm fairly certain what I'm about to say will age well, though not in a linear way. Let me tell you a story.I was talking to a friend. He told me a tree had fallen on his almost-new car. His car was totaled, and he got a check from insurance. He still had the memory of buying a car during the pandemic, how difficult it was and how expensive cars were. He said, to his shock, when he went to buy a replacement, he found car dealers fighting for his business. He got a car at a huge discount to the sticker price, because the market is oversupplied with cars. Predictably, high prices a few years ago led to higher supply today, and thus lower prices.Then the conversation (as you would expect) shifted to the stock market and, of course, Nvidia. He asked me what I thought about it.I told him that the market is now flooded with cars, despite them being difficult to get a few years ago. And the same is happening with GPU chips.A few years ago, some people thought high prices would persist in the car market indefinitely. Though I imagine most people thought that at some point it would end in lower prices. Here's all you need to know: The laws of economics work the same way with microchips.Today, Alphabet $(GOOGL)$, Apple $(AAPL)$, Meta Platforms, Tesla $(TSLA)$ and Amazon $(AMZN)$, for example, are buying a very large number of chips from Nvidia, as it is the only game in town. Nvidia's skyrocketing profitability is at their expense. Actually, it's a capital expenditure - only a portion of their spending that shows up in Nvidia's revenue shows up in Alphabet's earnings (income statement expenses), for example.As competing products hit the market, Nvidia's sales will falter, and so will its margins and earnings.Let me explain, using Alphabet as an example: Nvidia is currently selling some of its AI microprocessors for $40,000 a pop. Microprocessors are capital expenditures, thus they are depreciated over five years or so. Per accounting rules, only $8,000 of the $40,000 Alphabet pays to Nvidia shows up in Alphabet's income statement in the form of depreciation, while the full $40,000 shows up in Nvidia's revenues. That's why these companies' free cash flow often is much lower than their income.These tech giants aren't pleased to be paying Nvidia for their needs. So, in addition to Intel $(INTC)$ and AMD $(AMD)$, these companies are spending big to develop their own AI chips. Moreover, dozens of other companies we haven't heard of are working on AI chips.Fast-forward a few years, and AI chips will sell at a small fraction of Nvidia's \"only game in town\" price. The cure for high prices is high prices. This is what I love about capitalism.The argument I hear about Nvidia stock is that it's not insanely expensive, as it is trading at somewhere around 30-40 times future earnings. True. Though it's a high valuation for a $3 trillion company, it's not \"insane.\"But, and this is a huge but, the \"E\" in this P/E calculation is a bit misleading and provides a false sense of security. As competing products hit the market, Nvidia's sales will falter, and so will its margins and earnings.","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":238,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0},{"id":333050374525080,"gmtCreate":1722339158114,"gmtModify":1722343653136,"author":{"id":"4182132317731652","authorId":"4182132317731652","name":"MyNameIsCSY","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/f6647b92a6b2d9169863644b9be60308","crmLevel":4,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"followedFlag":false,"idStr":"4182132317731652","authorIdStr":"4182132317731652"},"themes":[],"htmlText":"msft for the win","listText":"msft for the win","text":"msft for the win","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":0,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/333050374525080","isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":176,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"lives":[]}