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  it doesnt seem like the roughly 600 million dollars per year of net income from the ownership of ARM have been factored into that math. Even that probably understates the value that ARM brought in once you factor in stuff like tax breaks and R&D concessions. With the benefit of hindsight maybe they should have put the SoftBank acquisition money into buying NVIDIA shares instead, I know I wish that I'd put my whole life savings into NVDIA two years ago, but you can hardly blame them for that.
  SoftBank’s Arm IPO Highlights the Cost of Not Sitting Still
  The firm paid $32 billion to take Arm private back in 2016S&P 500 returned 137% and Nvidia 3,600% over past seven yearsSoftBank Group Corp. looks set to turn a tidy profit when it takes Arm Holdings P
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doesnt seem like the&nbsp;roughly 600 million dollars per year of net&nbsp;income from the ownership of ARM have been factored into that math. Even that probably understates the value that ARM brought in once you factor in stuff like tax breaks and R&amp;D concessions. With the benefit of hindsight maybe they should have put the SoftBank acquisition money into buying NVIDIA shares instead, I know I wish that I'd put my whole life savings into NVDIA two years ago, but you can hardly blame them for that.&nbsp;","listText":"it doesnt seem like the&nbsp;roughly 600 million dollars per year of net&nbsp;income from the ownership of ARM have been factored into that math. Even that probably understates the value that ARM brought in once you factor in stuff like tax breaks and R&amp;D concessions. 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While that deal fell apart, the return on the share component had SoftBank held on to its stake through 2023 would be worth more than $80 billion.</p><p>Arm’s sales growth has waned, with annual revenue declining from the period prior, though it’s been positioning itself to ride the artificial intelligence wave that Nvidia has created.</p><p>That could create opportunities for SoftBank to see greater returns over the coming years after listing on the Nasdaq later this month. New Street Research’s Pierre Ferragu expects Arm to be worth $82 billion three years from now. </p><p>Not everyone is sold on Arm’s value. Bloomberg Intelligence analysts Kunjan Sobhani and Oscar Hernandez Tejada said the lower implied valuation better reflects its “relatively slower growth rate and larger revenue exposure to the smartphone market in the near term.”</p></body></html>","source":"yahoofinance","collect":0,"html":"<!DOCTYPE html>\n<html>\n<head>\n<meta http-equiv=\"Content-Type\" content=\"text/html; charset=utf-8\" />\n<meta name=\"viewport\" content=\"width=device-width,initial-scale=1.0,minimum-scale=1.0,maximum-scale=1.0,user-scalable=no\"/>\n<meta name=\"format-detection\" content=\"telephone=no,email=no,address=no\" />\n<title>SoftBank’s Arm IPO Highlights the Cost of Not Sitting Still</title>\n<style type=\"text/css\">\na,abbr,acronym,address,applet,article,aside,audio,b,big,blockquote,body,canvas,caption,center,cite,code,dd,del,details,dfn,div,dl,dt,\nem,embed,fieldset,figcaption,figure,footer,form,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6,header,hgroup,html,i,iframe,img,ins,kbd,label,legend,li,mark,menu,nav,\nobject,ol,output,p,pre,q,ruby,s,samp,section,small,span,strike,strong,sub,summary,sup,table,tbody,td,tfoot,th,thead,time,tr,tt,u,ul,var,video{ font:inherit;margin:0;padding:0;vertical-align:baseline;border:0 }\nbody{ font-size:16px; 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While that’s nice, reality is the firm could’ve made more if it had just stashed its cash in an index fund and walked away.The math is as follows. Masayoshi Son’s firm paid $32 billion to take Arm private back in 2016. Seven years later, the chip designer is set for a valuation of as much as almost $55 billion, good for a 70% gain over that period.Now compare that to what other equity benchmarks have done since that deal was announced. The S&P 500 Index has returned roughly twice as much, while the Philadelphia Semiconductor Index, which includes many of the companies that pay Arm royalties, has soared five-fold. And then there’s Nvidia Corp., one of Arm’s biggest customers, which has returned more than 3,600% in that same stretch.The disparity highlights the challenges of late-stage tech investing, where companies often raise money at lofty valuations. Still, SoftBank and other tech investors have fared far worse in the space so one big success can cover the losses of other bets. A successful Arm IPO would provide a windfall for SoftBank founder Son, whose Vision Fund lost a record $30 billion last year.A $55 billion valuation for Arm would place it in the middle of the tech-heavy Nasdaq 100 Index’s components, between O’Reilly Automotive Inc. and NXP Semiconductors NV. The return for SoftBank would also lag the Nasdaq 100’s more than 250% gain from July 2016.SoftBank’s Arm purchase came at a time when Nvidia’s enterprise value was roughly $25 billion. About four years later, Nvidia attempted to buy Arm for $40 billion in a cash and stock deal, with SoftBank expected to receive more than $21 billion in stock. While that deal fell apart, the return on the share component had SoftBank held on to its stake through 2023 would be worth more than $80 billion.Arm’s sales growth has waned, with annual revenue declining from the period prior, though it’s been positioning itself to ride the artificial intelligence wave that Nvidia has created.That could create opportunities for SoftBank to see greater returns over the coming years after listing on the Nasdaq later this month. New Street Research’s Pierre Ferragu expects Arm to be worth $82 billion three years from now. Not everyone is sold on Arm’s value. Bloomberg Intelligence analysts Kunjan Sobhani and Oscar Hernandez Tejada said the lower implied valuation better reflects its “relatively slower growth rate and larger revenue exposure to the smartphone market in the near term.”","news_type":1},"isVote":1,"tweetType":1,"viewCount":549,"authorTweetTopStatus":1,"verified":2,"comments":[],"imageCount":0,"langContent":"EN","totalScore":0}],"defaultTab":"followers","isTTM":true}