The "Disastrous" Earnings Season Coming! All Eyes On Apple

  • Wall Street is generally pessimistic about earnings season as they believe stocks are still not fully pricing in all the risks. There is still room for further declines in US stocks.
  • Investors also need to pay particular attention to $Apple(AAPL)$ performance as a bellwether for the state of the global economy.

1. The background of Q3 Earnings Season

Corporate profits are likely to suffer amid continuing rising costs, lower demand and a stronger dollar.

So far this year, the $S&P 500(.SPX)$ has fallen more than 24%, possibly the worst annual performance since the 2008 financial crisis.

Wall Street is now concerned that the already plunging stock market still hasn't fully priced in all the risks associated with aggressive central bank tightening as inflation remains high.

Companies from a variety of industries, in recent weeks, have called out a slowdown in demand. some have issued impromptu profit warnings.

2. Wall Street's collectively downgraded Earnings Season guidance

1) Bank of America's strategist Savita Subramanian cautions

It's guidance. Guidance is likely to matter most, and we see substantial downside risk to 4Q and 2023.
We expect guidance to weaken even further going forward and more downward revisions across the board.

2) FactSet's data shows that

Analysts lowered their third-quarter earnings estimates for the S&P 500 by 6.8%, the largest drop in expectations for the reporting period since the second quarter of 2020.

3) According to Refinitiv,

Fourth-quarter earnings estimates for the S&P 500 have already been reduced in half since July 1 -from 10.6% growth three months ago to current 5.2%.

4) Citi strategists expect that

Global earnings will decline 5% year-over-year in 2023, in line with below-trend levels of global economic growth and rising inflation. Citi's downgrades on the U.S., Europe and Global outweigh its upgrades, with the largest downgrade on the U.S.

3. Apple is the focus of this earnings season

Investors generally agree that special attention needs to be paid to Apple's earnings performance. $Apple(AAPL)$ will report earnings on Oct. 27.

For stocks to watch in the coming weeks, the media cited an MLIV Pulse survey showing that 60% of respondents believe Apple is critical.

Apple is the most heavily weighted company in the S&P 500 and is seen as providing clues to movements in a range of economic indicators, such as consumer demand, the supply chain, the impact of a surging dollar and rising interest rates.

Also, in this tough macroeconomic environment, nearly 40% of respondents prefer to invest more in value stocks and 23% prefer to invest in growth stocks. When interest rates rise, the earnings outlook for growth stocks becomes more fragile.

How do you expect Q3 Earnings Season?

Are you pessimistic or optimitic on it?

Will Apple help turn around the broader market?

Share your thoughts in the comment section to win tiger coins~

# Q2 Earning Season

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  • highhand
    ·2022-10-12
    Q3 earnings is the start of earnings recession. More estimate misses and lowered guidance.
    Apple cannot escape the same fate. It will bring the market down because of higher expectations of Apple's earnings.
    In short, Pessimist short term (in 2022),  Optimist long term in 2023 and beyond.
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  • RDPD富爸穷爸
    ·2022-10-13
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    Q3 earnings should be bad however I'm optimistic. As with every bear, comes the bull. Investors who invested in great companies will be rewarded if they stay the course.
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  • Chooer
    ·2022-10-13
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    以目前来看,不乐观.原本ipohe14是救命的稻草,苹果股價今年以来跌终12%,已经没有精力再耗下去了,现在只想抱着现金不投资🙁.
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  • Korer
    ·2022-10-13
    谢谢tiger_chat的分享投资人逐渐将目光焦点,投向11月的升息幅度,想投资,又怕高膨吃掉,
    但我这是支持,未来是乐观的.
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  • LMSunshine
    ·2022-10-15
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  • Tiger_comments
    ·2022-10-17
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  • pekss
    ·2022-10-13
    I expect Q3 earnings to fall short of market expectations, as the effects of the Fed’s aggressive rate hikes propagate through the economy and as inflation expectations dampen demands. As the US labor market has proven to be resilient as shown by the latest strong jobs data and unemployment rate, the Fed is unlikely to pivot away from its monetary tightening policy until inflation is brought under control, during which much pain is likely to be felt in the economy and market. While I’m pessimistic of the market in the near term, I remain optimistic that the market will prevail and emerge stronger over time after the crisis. Hence, prevailing market weakness presents buying opportunities for long-term investors.
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  • Fenger1188
    ·2022-10-17
    感谢 @Tiger_chat 精彩分享👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻$苹果(AAPL)$🍎有着强大的产品和服务组合,拥有多元化的收入来源,在这艰难的熊市里,投资者将苹果的股票视为为数不多的安全股票❤️市场仍然对苹果股票的前景保持乐观的情绪,不可否认的是,最近饱受负面因素影响,苹果的增长确实在放缓,从年初至今股价也下跌了21.75%。苹果股票的疲软,也是长期投资者的买入良机。我预测🍎会交出漂亮财报,🍎股票会上涨。不过苹果势单力薄,应该没有这个能力扭转大盘,继续看跌大盘😮‍💨
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  • RDPD富爸穷爸
    ·2022-10-13
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  • Cris0
    ·2022-10-12
    Pessimistic as not much good news poping up recently. The iphone 14 production was also stopped despite the initial high demand at the first launched. So not expecting a lot from apple but do hope that it can being some relief to the market amids the high inflation.
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  • Brocco
    ·2022-10-12
    Pessimistic, usually before the earnings there will be some speculation however inflation and interest hike seems to takover the news recently. Feels to me that one has more impact then the company reporting. Interest hike affects the whole US market while earnings is on individual stock.
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  • Ericdao
    ·2022-10-15
    Apple should still perform well as compared with others. The real impact on the tightening will not be felt fully during last quarter. Job market still strong meaning production still strong. Powell is out to damage the economy. Full impact could come after the mid term election
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  • Yonhuat
    ·2022-10-15
    Apple earnings will hold the lone for the broadet market. As a heavy weight in the S&P500 , all eyes are on them, they cover consumer hardware, software subscriptions and they overall tech consumables in a broad segment. Their Q4 forcast will show the path ahead in the strength of the economy
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  • StickyRice
    ·2022-10-14
    Forward and trailing operating earnings for the S&P 500 have typically fallen 15%-20% in recessions. So far, estimates have peaked and plateaued rather than cratered. However, forward indicators do point to more weakness ahead.
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  • HLPA
    ·2022-10-13
    AAPL is a weather-beaten stock. No matter how low it slides, evsntually it will riss up again. I have tesyed this many times and each time the rebounds  returned some profits For mega-stocks like AAPL which forms a huge percentage of the S&P, one has not much to worry on the downturn. Patience pays in the long run.
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  • chaicka
    ·2022-10-13
    $Apple(AAPL)$ price should move towards more realistic and sustainable P/E levels as earning growth slows and cement into investors’ mind. Single-digit percentage growth will be new norm. Opportunity for those who have rode the wave and cashed out gains during this correction period. [Cool]
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  • BenjiFuji
    ·2022-10-13
    Q3 results will be below expectations i think. However i am optimistic on the long run. Apple though the biggest, will not be the factor to turn around the market. The fed easing or inflation dropping will. [Lovely]
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  • SirBahamut
    ·2022-10-15
    Q3 may not be as strong yoy, but Q4 is most likely to outperform. Advance data has shown that iphone pro models orders are very strong, while standard model weak demand. Smartwatches are selling well.
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  • StickyRice
    ·2022-10-13
    Even though Apple has broadly diversified its revenue exposure, iPhone sales still account for almost 50% of total top-line, and perhaps even more for Apple's bottom-line. Thus, Apple's iPhone sales volume will be key.
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  • maricel
    ·2022-10-25
    I think Q4 will be better
    The latest model is totally out of stock
    Everything has to be pre-ordered online now
    It'll be hard to depend solely on Apple's performance to turn around the broader market
    But I think things will start looking better in Q4
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