Roku: Not So Good Under The Hood

Seeking Alpha2023-02-20

SummaryRoku has been up 30% in the last week mainly as a result of optimism on this stock post its earnings release.When I reviewed the release I could not understand the market's optimism.Outside of ...

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Deonc
2023-02-20
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Musky
2023-02-20
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A short sighted article as usual from Alpha. I get the feeling that Alpha just want to b a contrariannjust to offer a diff perspective. Point is Roku has gainef substantially in its subscribers base n the streaming hours. That means future earnings will grow. That is why investors r excited. A recent eg is netflix. It earned much less than expected but subscribers grew 70%. Till date stock price more than 2x. That is the point n investors are right!
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Expectations were low and the company did not really have a high bar to set for its earnings. At its lowest point, the stock had been down more than 90%, so this year it was at a stage where any news was good news. Its earnings served just that. It highlighted the addition of net new accounts giving it more than a 15% increase from last year (YE subscribers at 70M). Streaming hours increased by almost 20% from last year (YE streaming hours at 14.3B hours). But when I started digging deeper there were multiple signs that not everything is what it seemed and in my write up I will attempt to deconstruct their earnings narrative.Peeling back the narrativeWhile growth in streaming hours and an increase in subscriber numbers seem good, in the context of Roku it still hasn't helped the company in terms of numbers that really matter. Total net revenue from Q4 2022 only increased by 0.2% from the comparable quarter! 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Similar to our TV streaming model, we plan to build scale with our devices, then monetize through smart home services, which we expect to become a very large market.Diversification is a term popularized by Peter Lynch to express regret over the fact that certain companies venture into domains that are significantly distinct from their primary operations, leading to their eventual downfall. I fail to see how smart home products are related to their core business. Also, this is a domain already crowded by the big players (Ex: Google (GOOG) (GOOGL)) and I don't know how Roku plans to compete here.\"AI\" is the new buzzword that has caught up with the market. Just a year earlier, it was blockchain and from the advent of ChatGPT, the term \"AI\" has got a new lease of life. When companies resort to using buzzwords for absolutely little reason I start to distrust them more. I still remember the time when detecting persons, package, etc. was called sensor-based alerts.They talk about building scale with their new devices similar to the streaming model and the last time I checked, this is what scale meant. From Investopedia -InvestopediaBut we already saw their financials and I could see little evidence of their \"scale\". So I again fail to see the intentions behind these statements.Shareholders funding their growthDateStock Based Compensation to Revenue2022-12-3112%2021-12-317%2020-12-318%2019-12-318%2018-12-315%2017-12-312%Data by YChartsThe stock has been diluted massively since its IPO and if we have to connect the dots here on how their business is still operational without profitability and widening losses, the answer seems easy. The evidence above indicates that their growth has been increasingly coming at the expense of shareholders.Final CallWrapping up, I rate this stock as a strong sell:As an investor I feel I have better uses for my money regardless of the story that is painted by the company. 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