The Fed Could Crush the Stock Market Tomorrow, But Don't Panic

Motley Fool2022-09-20

KEY POINTSThe market is expecting another big rate hike from the Fed.But how big that rate hike could be is still a mystery.August data showed that the Fed still has work to do to rein in inflation....

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LimLS
2022-09-21
LimLS
Here are my thoughts on this. 1) WSJ seems to be the mouthpiece for Fed these days and they are fairly accurate. The latest WSJ article seems to downplay on 1% hike so we should see only 0.75% hike, 2) Powell most likely to be as hawkish as his speech during Jackson Hole last month so do not expect anything dovish. 3) Based on the few Fed officials speech recently, the dot plot from Sept FOMC will be more hawkish than June FOMC, with higher rate for end 2022 and 2023. So not expecting the market to rally after FOMC. But short term market movement are impossible to predict. The market is actually super hawkish now and predicting a higher terminal rate than Fed. So when the dot plot for Sept FOMC comes out and show lower than what the market expects, there might actually be a rally as media
- Vincent1968:
  ok
- Chitz:
  yes
- xinxino:
  Ok
- CET 789:
  [Cool] [Cool] [Cool]
- twm124:
  ok
hlw8888
2022-09-21
hlw8888
"Wall Street is falling down, falling down ~~~" 😖😖😖
patrickLai
2022-09-21
patrickLai
Oh no
- IsleofSkye:
  Sigh...
- patrickLai:
  scary
vaicrazy
2022-09-21
vaicrazy
Ok
- adonis123:
  noted
RieslingHawk
2022-09-21
RieslingHawk
Bond market has priced in a full percentage hike, sell now before you're out of options and left with a heavy bag
Jess261
2022-09-21
Jess261
Okay

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