How much higher will this bull market go?

MarketWatch2021-04-12

The lessons of past U.S. bull marketsErnesto Benavides/AFP via Getty ImagesThis bull market's strongest gains are behind us.That's the conclusion I reached upon analyzing all U.S. bull markets since ...

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CarmenMok
2021-04-12
CarmenMok
Steadily up is great
chriscf89
2021-04-12
chriscf89
Huat 888
kolusoe69
2021-04-12
kolusoe69
Huat Sayyy
- x2doubt:
  to the moon
LimLS
2021-04-12
LimLS
More upside expected since the world is still recovering. But don't expect a straight line up. Dips every few months is the new norm
A蔓妲
2021-04-12
A蔓妲
ETF green and red..
StepUp
2021-04-12
StepUp
Trees don't grow to the sky- or to the moon the growth slows down at some point

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