Tesla Still the "Category King" in EVs, but Beware Shrinking Margins: Analyst

Yahoo Finance2023-02-24

Tesla (TSLA) shares have been rallying well into 2023, and it’s for all the right reasons, at least for investors who took a bath last year.“Tesla is getting the right attention — you've seen the ...

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Monkseal
2023-02-26
Monkseal
When you have the volume, you can determine the price hence margins. Up or down either way you can still meet the numbers, but your rivals will suffer. That's a leader, can't imagine how much times analysts are wrong to keep barking up the wrong tree.
Seah CL
2023-02-25
Seah CL
K
Thalos
2023-02-24
Thalos
Ok
Chrissimo
2023-02-24
Chrissimo
What about sales volume? Yahoo Fianance expects it to stay the same??? Du*ba$$

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Though Tesla CEO (and current Twitter CEO) Elon Musk still has his hands tied with managing his latest purchase, Tesla bulls have been reassured lately that the company is back on the right path, following huge price cuts both here and abroad that have ginned up demand considerably for the pure-play EV-maker.Tesla is still the “category king” in EVs as Irwin calls it, and the fact that its 2022 production forecast slipped to 1.4 million from a forecast 1.5 million is still pretty impressive, all things considered. Despite competition ramping up, Tesla is essentially the only automaker to achieve volume production of EVs.But Irwin, who is overall bearish on Tesla, doesn’t see the recent good times lasting that long for shareholders.“We see Tesla as a great company, but we think there's going to be some [other] real winners. There are 100 or so EV models that are supposed to hit the road this year,” Irwin said.In addition to more competition coming from the likes of Ford, GM and Kia, another big area that Irwin sees as threatening Tesla’s generous multiple is margin compression. Irwin sees it coming down by a drastic factor as the company introduces lower priced vehicles like the upcoming Gen 3 vehicle and sees more price-conscious buyers coming in due to those price cuts.“So people that are buying on price cuts are not exactly prone to option things heavily, so you're mixing towards a lower-margin crowd of buyers with an already margin direct price cut,” Irwin said. “So I think we're probably looking towards more like 1,000 basis points in margin degradation over the next couple of quarters, instead of, basically, 500, 600, 700. That's heavy pressure.”UNION CITY, NEW JERSEY - FEBRUARY 18: A vehicle sits at a Tesla charging station on February 18, 2023 in Union City, New Jersey. 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That's a leader, can't imagine how much times analysts are wrong to keep barking up the wrong tree.","listText":"When you have the volume, you can&nbsp;determine the price hence margins.&nbsp;Up or down either way you can still meet the numbers, but your rivals will suffer. That's a leader, can't imagine how much times analysts are wrong to keep barking up the wrong tree.","text":"When you have the volume, you can determine the price hence margins. Up or down either way you can still meet the numbers, but your rivals will suffer. That's a leader, can't imagine how much times analysts are wrong to keep barking up the wrong tree.","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9957593047","repostId":2313050892,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9957249816,"gmtCreate":1677323368835,"gmtModify":1677323372862,"author":{"id":"4102135564535180","authorId":"4102135564535180","name":"Seah CL","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/970bca7b04e85a42a2c8eabed7ec96d0","vip":1,"crmLevel":3,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"4102135564535180","idStr":"4102135564535180"},"htmlText":"K","listText":"K","text":"K","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":1,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9957249816","repostId":2313050892,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9957672920,"gmtCreate":1677247913960,"gmtModify":1677247917946,"author":{"id":"4101955883486630","authorId":"4101955883486630","name":"Thalos","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/55ba87139db7cd8dd783879dbd6ed4c5","vip":1,"crmLevel":9,"crmLevelSwitch":1,"authorIdStr":"4101955883486630","idStr":"4101955883486630"},"htmlText":"Ok","listText":"Ok","text":"Ok","images":[],"top":1,"highlighted":1,"essential":1,"paper":1,"likeSize":2,"commentSize":0,"repostSize":0,"link":"https://ttm.financial/post/9957672920","repostId":2313050892,"repostType":4,"isVote":1,"likeStatus":false,"favoriteStatus":false,"reportStatus":false,"tweetType":1,"langContent":"EN"},{"id":9957646604,"gmtCreate":1677242538608,"gmtModify":1677245449346,"author":{"id":"4131314249442152","authorId":"4131314249442152","name":"Chrissimo","avatar":"https://community-static.tradeup.com/news/default-avatar.jpg","vip":1,"crmLevel":1,"crmLevelSwitch":0,"authorIdStr":"4131314249442152","idStr":"4131314249442152"},"htmlText":"What about sales volume? 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