trying options via demo account

nomadic_m
05-20

so I demo-ed $TLT 20240621 87.0 PUT$, short put of $iShares 20+ Year Treasury Bond ETF(TLT)$ at $87, expiring at 21st June as per @OptionsTutor 

thank god this is demo. otherwise my weak heart can't handle it 💔 😭 

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  • SullivanRrr
    05-31
    SullivanRrr

    Sis, you did it in the wrong direction… You should short/sell a put option at $87, instead of buying puts @nomadic_m

    • nomadic_m
      lol rookie mistake. glad it's a demo!!!
    • SPACE ROCKET
      Oh yah. Now that you mention did I realise it was a long instead of a short...
  • OptionsTutor
    05-31
    OptionsTutor

    Thanks for following my trade. 💖

    The order I share is short put. You need to sell the “PUT“ contract in demo account. For short put, when the current price declines, you profit. 💰

    But your order is “Long Put“, when the current price declines, you lose money.

    As the buyer of options, the contract’s time value decays over time. ⏳

    Short put has a higher winning rate because it benefits from time decay and stable or rising prices.

    You can try this “Short Put“ again in demo account and see how it will close by June. 📆

    • OptionsTutorReplynomadic_m
      thanks for your advice. 😺 i will provide screenshots tonight. you can follow my simulation trades later.
    • nomadic_m
      thanks, I'll try again. I think I need a step by step screenshot on what to do in demo account. if u did provide screenshots previously, then sorry, I haven't been a good student 🤣
  • Barcode
    05-21
    Barcode
    Thank goodness indeed! A good lesson learnt. Follow my very talented options extraordinarraire Tiger friend in Singapore for some good advice. I’m not game enough as yet! @SPACE ROCKET
    • Barcode
      You’re welcome, Happy trading!
    • nomadic_m
      thanks for referring @Barcode. @SPACE ROCKET what are you trading today? can I mimic on demo pls?
    • SPACE ROCKETReplyBarcode
      Haha yeah, glad my options behaved today unlike my naughty sons 🤣😂
    • BarcodeReplySPACE ROCKET
      At least something is behaving hey! Best for those to behave for you! More at stake 😄 Your welcome and hopefully some help 😀
    • SPACE ROCKET
      Awww you're too kind darling! Glad my options are behaving well today! ❤️🧡💛💚💙🩵💜🩷
  • SPACE ROCKET
    05-21
    SPACE ROCKET
    Hope it helps @nomadic_m !! ❤️🥰🙌🫶 It's difficult for people to mimic my trades because of how time dependent option trading can be, and because I do not have that Tiger Sparks thingy for people to follow my trades live. That makes it difficult for anyone to mirror my trades exactly because of time lag. However, I hope this first and most important tip helps, cheers fellow mummy! 🍻 🥂
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      Aww thank you for the reply dear! I've applied! Hopefully I know how to manoeuvre around the new interface / profile page haha! 🥰😍
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    • SPACE ROCKETReplyCaptainTiger
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    • SPACE ROCKETReplyCaptainTiger
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  • SPACE ROCKET
    05-21
    SPACE ROCKET
    Options are a time-dependent kinda trade. Which means that if you do not sell at an optimal time, you'd likely end up in the reds.

    Could you check back on your order and tell me the date at which you sold this put? I'm quite certain you sold the put when TLT was in the greens, such that when TLT falls, your put ends up being very red.

    You may ask, what's the purpose in me asking that. Simple. The trick is, SELL A PUT when ITS DAMN RED (of course at a strike price that you're willing to buy the shares if it goes south OR you're very certain that it will rebound such that your put expire worthless). SELL A CALL when it's DAMN GREEN (naked if you're daring and expect that it will drop eventually before your expiry, or covered if you own the stock and don't mind it being called away).

    I trade options on Crypto related stocks at the moment (CLSK, MARA, COIN, CONL, MSTR, IREN, RIOT) and closed some puts (sold ON VERY RED DAYS) earlier on when these stocks skyrocketed.

    • SullivanRrr
      She did it in the wrong direction... sis, you should short a put option, instead of buying puts @nomadic_m
    • SPACE ROCKETReplynomadic_m
      Hahah thank you and you're welcome! Trading options is like studying patterns too! You'd soon get the hang of it, I'm sure!🩷🩷
    • SPACE ROCKETReplynomadic_m
      FINALLY THIS PHANTOM MESSAGE SHOWED UP!! GHOSH.
    • nomadic_m
      congrats on your successful trades! super envious 😃
  • SPACE ROCKET
    05-21
    SPACE ROCKET
    Test message...
    I've got to try and recall what I typed for you earlier 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

    The trick to options trading is time. It's a time dependent kinda thing. Which means that if you were to sell a put at the wrong time, then you'd end up being in the reds prettily easily.

    Could you kindly look up the date where you sold this particular put? There is quite a good chance you sold the put on a GREEN day, such that when TLT falls, your put ends up in the reds.

    You may ask, eh. Why are you asking such a strange question? Trick here is. You SELL PUTS only on VERY RED DAYS (of course it must be a stock you're willing to be assigned if things go south OR you're certain it will rebound prior to expiry such that it expires worthless). And you SELL CALLS only on very GREEN DAYS (naked if you're daring enough and expect the stock to fall prior to expiry OR covered if you don't mind your stocks being called away).

    That's the most important rule that governs majority of my option trades.

    • SPACE ROCKETReplynomadic_m
      Haha, closer to the date, hit me up with screenshot(s) and I'd show you how 😀
    • nomadic_mReplySPACE ROCKET
      I need to figure out how to roll it, haha🤷🤦
    • SPACE ROCKETReplynomadic_m
      And if you continue waiting it out till on the week of expiry and it seems like you're on the verge of marginally being assigned the stock & you don't wish to be assigned,thenROLL IT. Roll the option for another week at a lower S.P or for another mth at a lower S.P. Whilst hoping it rebounds by then
    • SPACE ROCKETReplynomadic_m
      The word limit of 300 is annoying lol (BC @Barcode and I loathe the word limit lol). I hope you get my point! 🩷🩷 All the best dearie! 🩷🩷
    • SPACE ROCKETReplynomadic_m
      and gotten more money out of the sale. So, try selling it on a RED RED day the next time! There is another thing called rolling your options. If your puts are very red now, taking the $2000+ loss don't seem ideal (especially if you don't expect TLT to drastically drop in the next month).
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