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Shernice軒嬣 2000

Replying to @DrewStrong:Banks and insurance companies are holding devalued real assets, mortgage defaults are rising, youth unemployment is widespread, and foreign investment has dropped to a 20-year low.//@DrewStrong:This plan sounds like a Band-Aid on a bigger wound. Will it really fix the underlying issues?

@Shernice軒嬣 2000：High Hopes, Hollow Results: No Economic Boost As China Shifts Focus Amid Financial Pressure on Local Governments

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manlin_sun
11-13
manlin_sun
Debt reduction needs to be done gradually, step by step.

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Additionally, he said that ¥400 billion of local government debt settlement quota is being used to strengthen local financial capacity, reassuring that ample policy tools and resources are available to maintain balanced fiscal revenues and expenditures.\n \nHowever, critics have observed that Lan’s remarks sidestepped essential points. Nationwide public budget revenue from January to September 2024 stood at ¥16.3 trillion, down by 2.2% year-on-year, with tax revenue declining by 5.3%. Lan’s emphasis on October’s slight rebound in central government revenue missed the broader trend of declining national revenue, leading to disappointment in economic and financial circles. Many had anticipated a substantial fiscal stimulus to boost the economy, but it fell short.\n \nThe Wall Street Journal reported that while China approved a ¥6 trillion local government special debt issuance, no broader fiscal measures were introduced. 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Provinces can still function to a degree, but many city-level governments are financially strained, barely able to meet basic obligations like civil servant salaries and essential services—known as the \"three guarantees\": ensuring basic livelihood, salary payments, and basic operations. For some local governments, even these basics are now difficult to maintain.\n&nbsp;\nThis ¥10 trillion debt restructuring essentially moves immediate debts further down the timeline, allowing local governments some financial breathing room to sustain operations without direct central government funding. 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Debts maturing in 2029 or later, mostly from older redevelopment projects, will be repaid as per their original terms, adding another ¥2 trillion to the tally. Together, these measures are projected to cover ¥10 trillion in “hidden” local debts. Finance Minister Lan Fo'an announced that by 2028, local government debt would be reduced from the current ¥14.3 trillion to around ¥2.3 trillion, substantially relieving debt pressure. Lan argued that Chinese local governments should be able to reduce debts on their own. He noted that restructuring from “hidden” debts to formal bonds, with lower interest rates, could save up to ¥600 billion in interest over five years. Lan also highlighted that China’s debt-to-GDP ratio, at 85%, remains lower than other major economies like the G20 average of 118% and the G7’s 123%. However, critics argue the debt data is incomplete. 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Additionally, he said that ¥400 billion of local government debt settlement quota is being used to strengthen local financial capacity, reassuring that ample policy tools and resources are available to maintain balanced fiscal revenues and expenditures. However, critics have observed that Lan’s remarks sidestepped essential points. Nationwide public budget revenue from January to September 2024 stood at ¥16.3 trillion, down by 2.2% year-on-year, with tax revenue declining by 5.3%. Lan’s emphasis on October’s slight rebound in central government revenue missed the broader trend of declining national revenue, leading to disappointment in economic and financial circles. Many had anticipated a substantial fiscal stimulus to boost the economy, but it fell short. The Wall Street Journal reported that while China approved a ¥6 trillion local government special debt issuance, no broader fiscal measures were introduced. For weeks, investors and economists had expected a series of fiscal stimulus policies amid a weak real estate sector, waning consumer confidence, and slower economic growth. Reports from various government departments had fueled hopes for an economic stimulus, yet officials provided no concrete numbers or actions at this press event. The response? Disappointment. In reality, the main announcement was a decision by the National People’s Congress Standing Committee to increase local government debt limits, specifically to restructure existing “hidden” debts. There were no mentions of special sovereign bonds to bolster bank capital, no new funds to support the real estate sector, and no additional fiscal stimulus initiatives. In short, the hidden debt swap plan, not economic stimulus, was the real focus. The reason for this debt restructuring is to address the “immobilization” of local governments, many of which are heavily indebted and struggling to operate. 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